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Started by Recusant, October 02, 2017, 06:58:25 PM
Quote from: Father Bruno on October 02, 2017, 07:50:58 PMSo we did nothing.And we won't do anything now either.
Quote from: Recusant on October 02, 2017, 06:58:25 PM It's not a Muslim? Ah well then, nothing to do but buy more guns and ammunition, I guess.
Quote from: BooksCatsEtc on October 03, 2017, 05:02:34 AMGun and ammo buying has already spiked. Apparently the only thing appropriate to do after a shooting is to gear up for the next one.
Quote from: Recusant on October 03, 2017, 06:15:37 AMQuote from: BooksCatsEtc on October 03, 2017, 05:02:34 AMGun and ammo buying has already spiked. Apparently the only thing appropriate to do after a shooting is to gear up for the next one.Well there's that, and blaming the shooting on antifa and/or Muslims. If you're really with the program you know that it was scripted by the Democratic party.
QuoteThe only hope for preventing mass shootings is to treat guns like any other public-health threat and build a strong body of research — but the Republican Party has seriously hamstrung any efforts to do that.Because we can't predict who will commit a mass shooting, our only real hope of reducing the number and deadliness of such shootings is to better understand how guns "work" at a public-health level, and finding out policies that will reduce the odds of dangerous people getting guns, or at least getting the most deadly types of guns.This is exactly the sort of task the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention would be well-suited for in any other situation. After all, it has a $7 billion annual budget and its entire mandate is to study threats to Americans' health and well-being. And the CDC did, for a while, study gun violence. That changed abruptly in 1996, when the National Rifle Association, as part of its remarkably successful decades-long effort to keep just about any meaningful national-level gun control off the table, successfully pressured congressional Republicans to strip the CDC of its gun-research funding and to effectively ban the agency from studying gun violence, or disbursing funds to researchers who want to do so.Since its passage, the ban has led to tens of millions of dollars of lost research funding for one of the biggest public-health threats to American lives. [. . .]Naturally, this has had a stunting trickle-down effect on the national conversation about gun violence. "Because we don't know what works, we as a country are left in a shouting match," Dr. Mark Rosenberg, the president and CEO of the Task Force for Global Help and a former gun-violence researcher at the CDC, told me for a story I did on the ban in December of 2015. "We get into these totally nonproductive shouting matches because nobody has the evidence ... and that's where we stand right now."We know many of the key public-health questions about how gun violence works in the U.S.: What differentiates the sorts of people who are and aren't able to acquire weapons illegally? What sorts of temporary bans on gun ownership for people in states of severe psychological distress would, and wouldn't, help prevent deadly violence? And so on. But we are years, if not decades, behind on answering these questions because our own lawmakers have decided that the government should sweep them under the rug, rather than aggressively try to research answers to them — largely because the NRA is worried that the answer to some of these questions will be that tightening certain gun laws would make us all safer (a reasonable assumption in light of evidence from countries like Australia).Again: It will be interesting, and useful in a certain, narrow sense, to find out why [shitbag's name] committed his heinous crime. But to focus too narrowly on the details is to miss the much more important, broader point: The U.S. is soaked in a great deal of what is likely unnecessary bloodshed because it refuses to do anything about its gun-violence epidemic. There's no cute or subtle way out of that fact, no insight waiting to be uncovered from poring over mass shooters' Facebook profiles or their texts with family members. We're stuck where we are, because of political choices we have made, and there doesn't appear to be any escape. Just more and more horror.[Link to full article.]
Quote from: BooksCatsEtc on October 05, 2017, 08:57:47 AM^^^ Well, that was depressing -- the one thing that might help is the one thing we're unwilling to do.
QuoteThe Las Vegas shooting that left 58 people dead and more than 500 injured has placed new attention on the "bump-stock" device that Stephen Paddock had 12 of in order to enhance his semi-automatic rifle arsenal at the Mandalay Bay Hotel. In the wake of the massacre, sales of the modification that allows these weapons to fire like fully-automatic rifles have spiked—and in some cases bump-stocks are selling out.
QuoteThune shied away from the topic of gun control, arguing, "t's an open society and it's hard to prevent anything."Instead, the Republican senator offered advice to potential victims."I think people are going to have to take steps in their own lives to take precautions," he opined. "To protect themselves. And in situations like that, you know, try to stay safe. As somebody said — get small."
QuoteThe Las Vegas massacre that left at least 58 dead is the price of freedom and gunmen who commit mass shootings have right to arm themselves"
QuoteWHY IS IT HAPPENING?" HE ASKED. "THE FACT THAT WE HAVE DISRESPECT FOR AUTHORITY; THERE IS PROFOUND DISRESPECT FOR OUR PRESIDENT, ALL ACROSS THIS NATION THEY SAY TERRIBLE THINGS ABOUT HIM. IT'S IN THE NEWS, IT'S IN OTHER PLACES. THERE IS DISRESPECT NOW FOR OUR NATIONAL ANTHEM, DISRESPECT FOR OUR VETERANS, DISRESPECT FOR THE INSTITUTIONS OF OUR GOVERNMENT, DISRESPECT FOR THE COURT SYSTEM. ALL THE WAY UP AND DOWN THE LINE, DISRESPECT.""UNTIL THERE IS BIBLICAL AUTHORITY," ROBERTSON CONTINUED, "THERE HAS TO BE SOME CONTROLLING AUTHORITY IN OUR SOCIETY AND THERE IS NONE. AND WHEN THERE IS NO VISION OF GOD, THE PEOPLE RUN AMOK ... AND WE HAVE TAKEN FROM THE AMERICAN PEOPLE THE VISION OF GOD,