Oh, you have cancer? Too f'n bad!

Bella · February 01, 2008, 05:30:26 PM

Apparently, the same goes for anyone with AIDS or who needs extra medical help to conceive a child. Why? Because the delusional people who believe in a soul as a real concept are getting all confused... poor lil' guys.

http://www.reuters.com/article/scienceN ... cienceNews

McQ · February 01, 2008, 08:15:07 PM

Born and reared in a roman catholic house and seen a few popes in my time. This guy takes the cake. It's weird. People think it's so great that he is "reaching out" and saying that some stem cell research is good, but then he makes all these qualifiers that just make him seem like a twit.

Will · February 01, 2008, 08:33:18 PM

Benedict is a useless old fundy. I'm not a big fan of Catholicism, but at least John Paul was capable of empathy. He never would have done any of the shitty things that Benedict has done.

tacoma_kyle · February 02, 2008, 09:33:24 AM

And this is coming from the guy who has recently announced condom use appropriate in the proper circumstances? He did that right?

McQ · February 02, 2008, 01:59:44 PM

Quote from: "tacoma_kyle"And this is coming from the guy who has recently announced condom use appropriate in the proper circumstances? He did that right?

A roman catholic pope condoning condom use? I think not. I can't imagine he would ever give condoms the ok.

Anyone got a bead on this one?

Sophie · February 02, 2008, 05:03:35 PM

I wasn't able to find any information about a recent announcement. If there was such an announcement, it would definitely have been on the Vatican website. The EWTN website has an extensive library of texts and new releases, etc, and there wasn't anything there either. I did find that in 2006, Pope Benedict approved a study about AIDS and condoms. The plan was to see if condoms were actually successful in preventing the transmission of AIDs from one spouse to another. There are several STDs that are transmitted rather frequently even with condom use.

It's a tragedy. I heard a good way of putting it from an Atheist Talk podcast: when the promise of heaven is taken seriously, those in authority are a lot less concerned about letting people die. He was talking specifically about the war in Iraq, but it obviously applies here too.

tacoma_kyle · February 02, 2008, 06:55:50 PM

Yeah it was in response to AIDS and others similar.

Bella · February 03, 2008, 08:15:09 AM

So he basically wanted to use people as subjects in some wacky AIDS "experiment"?!

McQ · February 03, 2008, 08:28:28 PM

Quote from: "Bella"So he basically wanted to use people as subjects in some wacky AIDS "experiment"?!

No, not any more than any serious AIDS researchers. Even though I can't stand this pope, that would not be an accurate accusation.

...and neither the pope nor the church allows the use of condoms still.

Bella · February 04, 2008, 05:06:04 PM

STD's and unwanted pregnancies... just one more reason...

McQ · February 04, 2008, 09:55:46 PM

Quote from: "Bella"STD's and unwanted pregnancies... just one more reason...

Why mess with hundreds of years of stellar church dogma?

...yeah, there's nothing like good catholic doctrine to get your blood up.

Sophie · February 04, 2008, 11:10:45 PM

Hard to believe I had fooled myself into believing the party line when I was Catholic.

Of course, this type of discussion always makes me think of Monty Python's "Every Sperm is Sacred." LOL

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Oh, you have cancer? Too f'n bad!