Happy Atheist Forum

What ddoes it feel like to be a bee?

Icarus

  • The wise one.
  • *****
  • 6125
  • Gender: Male
What ddoes it feel like to be a bee?
« on: August 13, 2019, 08:00:22 PM »
Here is an almost but not quite philosophical discussion.  There are also some exceptional pictures of bees, almost as good as Tank's close up work.

https://getpocket.com/explore/item/what-is-it-like-to-be-a-bee?utm_source=pocket-newtab

No one

  • *****
  • 2326
Re: What ddoes it feel like to be a bee?
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2019, 11:39:27 PM »
I don't get what the buzz is all about!

Tank

  • *****
  • 32544
  • Gender: Male
Re: What ddoes it feel like to be a bee?
« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2019, 08:00:01 AM »
I'm told it has a sting in the tail.
If religions were TV channels atheism is turning the TV off.
“Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt.” ― Richard P. Feynman
'It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.' - Terry Pratchett
Remember, your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.

Bad Penny II

  • *****
  • 2014
  • Idiot Symmetrician
Re: What ddoes it feel like to be a bee?
« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2019, 09:35:30 AM »
I'm told it has a sting in the tail.

Banned for sexism.

Here is an almost but not quite philosophical discussion.

Here is a most definite philosophical discussion.

God bless those mods who toil so we can tosh.

billy rubin

  • humble azpirant to the throne3 of typos
  • ****
  • 1529
  • Gender: Male
  • i actually do not know what LætusAtheos means
Re: What ddoes it feel like to be a bee?
« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2019, 12:50:53 AM »
its hard to get into the mind of a bee from the inside, but from the beekeeper's point of view bees definitely have emotions, personalities, and behaviors that reflect them.

maybe the biggest difference is that, to a beekeeper, it isnt the individual bee that isthe unit organism, its the hive. sometime a beekeeper will refer to hive by talking about the queen as if she waz the whole organism, but strictly speaking that isnt true.

a beekeeper might talk about a hive being mean, gentle, preoccupied, unhappy, busy, diztracted, or angry. not the individuals, but the entire colony at once.

a diiferent take on what a bee's mind is like, compared to the individual focus in the link.

i ran a bee outfit for a while, and im thinking of getting back into it.


Into the distance a ribbon of black
Stretched to the point of no turning back
A flight of fancy on a windswept field
Standing alone my senses reeled
A fatal attraction is holding me fast how
How can I escape this irresistible grasp?

Tank

  • *****
  • 32544
  • Gender: Male
Re: What ddoes it feel like to be a bee?
« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2019, 01:47:45 PM »
An interesting insight.
If religions were TV channels atheism is turning the TV off.
“Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt.” ― Richard P. Feynman
'It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.' - Terry Pratchett
Remember, your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.

Re: What ddoes it feel like to be a bee?
« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2019, 02:11:11 PM »
“To bee, or not to bee, that is the question”
 William Shakespeare

billy rubin

  • humble azpirant to the throne3 of typos
  • ****
  • 1529
  • Gender: Male
  • i actually do not know what LætusAtheos means
Re: What ddoes it feel like to be a bee?
« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2019, 02:38:13 PM »
well , i definitely miss them, so the question is answered for me. i have one swarm in a double box in the front yard i caught this summer, not a big one. but tbe queen was okay and theyve held their own.

i ran a pollination business and raised and sold queens. i worked in california's central valley and coast ranges. i pollinated almonds, apples, cherries, squash. cucumbers, melons, watermelons, pumpkins, broccoli, cauliflower, onions, radishez, cabbage, kale, bok choy zinnias, cardoonz, celery, parsley, parsnips, and probably a number of others i cant remember.

its harder and harder to run bees in america now. competition, loss of locations, low commodity prices and fruit and vegetable imports from mexico and china. i used to sell a box of 100 queens for US$600, postage paid. now that same box is going for US$2800.


Into the distance a ribbon of black
Stretched to the point of no turning back
A flight of fancy on a windswept field
Standing alone my senses reeled
A fatal attraction is holding me fast how
How can I escape this irresistible grasp?

Icarus

  • The wise one.
  • *****
  • 6125
  • Gender: Male
Re: What ddoes it feel like to be a bee?
« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2019, 06:01:35 AM »
 You are indeed a man of many talents BR.

billy rubin

  • humble azpirant to the throne3 of typos
  • ****
  • 1529
  • Gender: Male
  • i actually do not know what LætusAtheos means
Re: What ddoes it feel like to be a bee?
« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2019, 12:30:00 PM »
spread pretty thin though

similar to your story in some ways, i think


Into the distance a ribbon of black
Stretched to the point of no turning back
A flight of fancy on a windswept field
Standing alone my senses reeled
A fatal attraction is holding me fast how
How can I escape this irresistible grasp?

billy rubin

  • humble azpirant to the throne3 of typos
  • ****
  • 1529
  • Gender: Male
  • i actually do not know what LætusAtheos means
Re: What ddoes it feel like to be a bee?
« Reply #10 on: December 26, 2019, 12:19:11 PM »
almond poliination prices are way, way up from when i was there;


Quote
We polled a handful of almond growers. Here’s what they're paying per hive:

Low: $150

High: $220

Average: $192.27

Just for reference, we know that Joe Traynor is charging $240 this year. Rule of thumb: if you’re paying more than this and you’re not 100% certain that you’ve got the best bees on the planet, you’re doing something wrong

https://www.thebeecorp.com/post/2019-almond-pollination-prices

this is a hard business to be in. when i started around 25 years back, pollination prices were around $35 for six framez of beez.

traynor's standard was eight frames, but a hive that strong is hard to maintain as early in the year as the almonds bloom. the firzt varietiez might hit february 10th, but most are 10 to 20 days after that.


Into the distance a ribbon of black
Stretched to the point of no turning back
A flight of fancy on a windswept field
Standing alone my senses reeled
A fatal attraction is holding me fast how
How can I escape this irresistible grasp?

Tank

  • *****
  • 32544
  • Gender: Male
Re: What ddoes it feel like to be a bee?
« Reply #11 on: December 26, 2019, 12:59:23 PM »
Fascinating.
If religions were TV channels atheism is turning the TV off.
“Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt.” ― Richard P. Feynman
'It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.' - Terry Pratchett
Remember, your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.