There is also the shroud of turin, which verifies Jesus in a new way than other evidences.
Started by cspanther, April 19, 2008, 01:27:45 AM
Quote from: "Inevitable Droid"3. I recently conceived the notion that religion doesn't have to be based on faith, but could be based on hope instead. Religion has a strong community aspect that many find appealing, even some atheists. What if there were religions based not on faith, which atheists reject, but on hope, which atheists could embrace without qualm. I am running an experiment based on this notion, although this particular experiment is focused primarily on learning if atheists would want to be able to officiate weddings themselves, or have their weddings officiated by other atheists, openly. See the link at my sig if curious. But hope can obviously look in many directions, all ahead in the future, but veering off sideways from there to gaze at possibilities in the arts, medicine, technology, education, research, lifestyle, conservation, exploration, or anything else that inspires hope. Perhaps this is the future of religion for an increasingly atheist humanity: sacred space, sacred time, sacred community, around hope.
Quote from: "Khalliqa"Forming a temporary community seems sound.. as a buffer to the alienating tyranny of the greater society... A long term goal of community would not be feasible without agreed upon core values and tolerance for others who are not atheists..
Quote from: "Inevitable Droid"Quote from: "Khalliqa"Forming a temporary community seems sound.. as a buffer to the alienating tyranny of the greater society... A long term goal of community would not be feasible without agreed upon core values and tolerance for others who are not atheists.. Why would a temporary community be more sound than a permanent one?
Quote from: "Khalliqa"was that, as you have also acknowledged, a community would have to move and unite around something more than atheistic belief.. and there is no guarantee that an atheistic definition would yield a cohesive and passionate unification for other values...
Quote from: "Khalliqa"There is currently no homogeneous atheist communal body
Quote from: "Whitney"Quote from: "Khalliqa"There is currently no homogeneous atheist communal body Eh hem...American Atheists http://www.atheists.org/Atheists United International http://www.atheistalliance.org/United Coalition of Reason http://unitedcor.org/national/page/homeThese are just as homogeneous as any theistic organization...you can't expect any group to be able to please everyone.
Quote from: "Whitney"I don't get your point then because it seems unreasonable to expect that such a broad group could find common ground outside of lack of belief...
QuoteI'd even go so far as to say that it is undesirable for all atheists to have common ground other than not believing in god. If we could ever unite under one thing it would be the idea of freethought and then there are plenty of deists/theists who would also happily join in.