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Tired of being negative

Tired of being negative
« on: December 10, 2011, 01:08:05 PM »
So I'm tired of being against stuff. I'm an a-theist, I'm against religion, irrationality, mental submission, monotheism, etc. I know I am for things (humanism, free speech, reason, etc) and I know that I, as an atheist, am in the "default" of non believing.

I feel like am man living in a world where everyone has a broken leg and needs a crutch to walk except for me. Am I an anticrutch? No, I am normal!

We (culture) have had this crutch for so long that we don't have a word for 'no crutch'.

I want a word that expresses my "default" normalcy.

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Re: Tired of being negative
« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2011, 01:17:41 PM »
So I'm tired of being against stuff. I'm an a-theist, I'm against religion, irrationality, mental submission, monotheism, etc. I know I am for things (humanism, free speech, reason, etc) and I know that I, as an atheist, am in the "default" of non believing.
So what is wrong with turning the tables?

Express the things you are against in terms of things you are for, and problem solved, no?
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Re: Tired of being negative
« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2011, 01:19:48 PM »
Naturalist.

It encompases all of reality and allows one to explore that reality without any superstitions weighing one down. It acknowledges our evolutionary past and the drives that we have, caused by our evolution. It focuses on our inclusion in the universe around us and that we are a part of the natural world, not the supernatural world. It reveals our heritage, faults and our obligations to the natural world around us.
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Re: Tired of being negative
« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2011, 04:19:08 PM »
yeah, naturalist would be good, although I wonder who'd arrivie at the forum though if we renamed it 'happy naturalist forum'!

It's a good original question Jose, I get fed up of religious people claiming that atheism is just a belief and a religion like any other, unwilling to accept it is just not believing in deities, and it is the default position. None of us are born believing anything.

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Re: Tired of being negative
« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2011, 04:21:35 PM »
yeah, naturalist would be good, although I wonder who'd arrivie at the forum though if we renamed it 'happy naturalist forum'!

It's a good original question Jose, I get fed up of religious people claiming that atheism is just a belief and a religion like any other, unwilling to accept it is just not believing in deities, and it is the default position. None of us are born believing anything.
Yes! There is the possibility of a missread there  ;D
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Re: Tired of being negative
« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2011, 04:31:01 PM »
I self identify mainly as freethinker with atheist simply being a byproduct.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freethought

And I agree with the comment that "atheist" in the forum title is part of the reason it attracts people.  Happy Freethinker or Happy Secularist isn't as much of a statement phrase.

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Re: Tired of being negative
« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2011, 04:37:59 PM »
yeah, naturalist would be good, although I wonder who'd arrivie at the forum though if we renamed it 'happy naturalist forum'!

It's a good original question Jose, I get fed up of religious people claiming that atheism is just a belief and a religion like any other, unwilling to accept it is just not believing in deities, and it is the default position. None of us are born believing anything.
Yes! There is the possibility of a missread there  ;D
Not that Tank would mind. :P
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Re: Tired of being negative
« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2011, 05:07:35 PM »
yeah, naturalist would be good, although I wonder who'd arrivie at the forum though if we renamed it 'happy naturalist forum'!

It's a good original question Jose, I get fed up of religious people claiming that atheism is just a belief and a religion like any other, unwilling to accept it is just not believing in deities, and it is the default position. None of us are born believing anything.
Yes! There is the possibility of a missread there  ;D
Not that Tank would mind. :P
:o young lady. The very thought of it  ;D
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Re: Tired of being negative
« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2011, 07:15:42 PM »
yeah, naturalist would be good, although I wonder who'd arrivie at the forum though if we renamed it 'happy naturalist forum'!

It's a good original question Jose, I get fed up of religious people claiming that atheism is just a belief and a religion like any other, unwilling to accept it is just not believing in deities, and it is the default position. None of us are born believing anything.
Yes! There is the possibility of a missread there  ;D
Not that Tank would mind. :P
:o young lady. The very thought of it  ;D

Imagine the personal photos people would post then.

Anyway, back to the original topic.  Secular humanist would work too.
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Re: Tired of being negative
« Reply #9 on: December 10, 2011, 09:51:58 PM »
Modernist.

Might seem odd at first, but consider how anachronistic it is to be Christian, Muslim, Orthodox Jew, etc.



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Re: Tired of being negative
« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2011, 06:06:51 AM »
I identify as secular humanist when I don't want to scare people with the word "atheist." It carries a bit less of that negative weight. And it implies standing for certain principles rather than standing against something else.

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Re: Tired of being negative
« Reply #11 on: December 11, 2011, 03:38:58 PM »
I identify as secular humanist when I don't want to scare people with the word "atheist." It carries a bit less of that negative weight. And it implies standing for certain principles rather than standing against something else.

That's a good point, maybe I should use 'secular humanist' more often. ::)
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Re: Tired of being negative
« Reply #12 on: December 12, 2011, 02:18:39 AM »
The trouble I have with self-identifying as a humanist is the same as some 20th century philosophers had with self-identifying as an existentialist; I.e., "If I say I'm that, then I imply I agree with what those guys over there are saying, since apparently they're that too."

I'd rather self-identify as Newtonian: http://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/index.php?topic=8834.0
 
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Re: Tired of being negative
« Reply #13 on: December 12, 2011, 06:29:19 AM »
yeah, naturalist would be good, although I wonder who'd arrivie at the forum though if we renamed it 'happy naturalist forum'!

I'd take one look at that and think I'd landed at some weird, online nudist colony.   :o
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Re: Tired of being negative
« Reply #14 on: December 13, 2011, 10:43:39 AM »
yeah, naturalist would be good, although I wonder who'd arrivie at the forum though if we renamed it 'happy naturalist forum'!

I'd take one look at that and think I'd landed at some weird, online nudist colony.   :o
nothing wrong with that, I could happily join a 'happy naturist forum'!