Would your theistic friends be Jehovah's Witnesses by any chance?
Would your theistic friends be Jehovah's Witnesses by any chance?
not ! they claim that atheists confuse Jesus with God. what do you think about it?
Would your theistic friends be Jehovah's Witnesses by any chance?
not ! they claim that atheists confuse Jesus with God. what do you think about it?
I think you are perfectly well aware that the vast majority of Christians believe that Jesus is the Christian god, correct?
I think you are perfectly well aware that the vast majority of Christians believe that Jesus is the Christian god, correct?
That's certainly what I was taught in about half the Xtian churches my mother took me to as a kid. The other half said they were two separate beings.
My theistic friends told me that I have to believe in God! do you know why ?
why Jesus believed in God! that the mistake of atheists is to think that Jesus and God are the same thing! and that Jesus was an envoy of God :chin:
I think you are perfectly well aware that the vast majority of Christians believe that Jesus is the Christian god, correct?
That's certainly what I was taught in about half the Xtian churches my mother took me to as a kid. The other half said they were two separate beings.
That's somewhat ambiguous. Are you saying that half of the churches claimed that Jesus is not the Christian god?
Would your theistic friends be Jehovah's Witnesses by any chance?
not ! they claim that atheists confuse Jesus with God. what do you think about it?
I think you are perfectly well aware that the vast majority of Christians believe that Jesus is the Christian god, correct?
I think you are perfectly well aware that the vast majority of Christians believe that Jesus is the Christian god, correct?
Jesus in the New Testament just stated that He was a messenger of God!
I think you are perfectly well aware that the vast majority of Christians believe that Jesus is the Christian god, correct?
That's certainly what I was taught in about half the Xtian churches my mother took me to as a kid. The other half said they were two separate beings.
That's somewhat ambiguous. Are you saying that half of the churches claimed that Jesus is not the Christian god?
That's right. He was the son of god, but not god himself. They'd get very heated about people who claimed that the Son was also the Father.
I think you are perfectly well aware that the vast majority of Christians believe that Jesus is the Christian god, correct?
That's certainly what I was taught in about half the Xtian churches my mother took me to as a kid. The other half said they were two separate beings.
That's somewhat ambiguous. Are you saying that half of the churches claimed that Jesus is not the Christian god?
That's right. He was the son of god, but not god himself. They'd get very heated about people who claimed that the Son was also the Father.
Interesting. It would seem that your mother had a taste for nontrinitarian (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nontrinitarianism) churches. Nonetheless, the majority of Christians (and Christian denominations) are trinitarian and have been for a very long time.
Jesus Christ was not Atheist, theists claim!
Jesus Christ was not Atheist, theists claim!
Jesus Christ was not Atheist, theists claim!
Surely you are capable of carrying on a basic conversation. Spouting slogans while ignoring relevant queries isn't going to achieve anything beyond alienating members of this site.
yes for most Jesus is god for ChristiansI think you are perfectly well aware that the vast majority of Christians believe that Jesus is the Christian god, correct?
Jesus in the New Testament just stated that He was a messenger of God!
I'm not asking for your interpretation of the New Testament. I'm asking if you're aware of the fact that the vast majority of Christians believe that Jesus is their god. Can you honestly answer my question?
In the New Testament Jesus claimed not to be God, but Christians did not invent in what way Jesus is God, this is Christian dogma.Jesus Christ was not Atheist, theists claim!
Surely you are capable of carrying on a basic conversation. Spouting slogans while ignoring relevant queries isn't going to achieve anything beyond alienating members of this site.
ok responda a ele.Jesus Christ was not Atheist, theists claim!
Surely you are capable of carrying on a basic conversation. Spouting slogans while ignoring relevant queries isn't going to achieve anything beyond alienating members of this site.
Ricardo, você entendeu que ele está pedindo para você responder as perguntas dele? Se precisar de ajuda é só falar.
In the New Testament Jesus claimed not to be God, but Christians did not invent in what way Jesus is God, this is Christian dogma.
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.
[John 1:1-5 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=john+1%3A1-5&version=NIV)]
The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.
[John 1-14 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=john+1%3A14&version=NIV)]
My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all; no one can snatch them out of my Father’s hand. I and the Father are one.
Jesus Christ was not Atheist, theists claim!
What?
(P.S.) Dear Mr.Recusant:- I thought that smiley was just a nice waving smiley. I didn't notice the upended digit. Could you remove it immediately please. And am I now banned? . . . Oh dear! :shocked:
Jesus Christ was not Atheist, theists claim!
What?
(P.S.) Dear Mr.Recusant:- I thought that smiley was just a nice waving smiley. I didn't notice the upended digit. Could you remove it immediately please. And am I now banned? . . . Oh dear! :shocked:
I know that most sites have a brief window in which editing of posts is allowed. That is not the case here. You can edit that post yourself if you wish.
Just as I'm giving Ricardo the benefit of the doubt in regard to his claim to be an atheist, I extend the same courtesy to you in this matter.
I certainly am not going to ban you--except for would-be spammers I'm strongly against summary banning.
You are the Ying to my Yang in that respect. ;D
Jesus Christ was not Atheist, theists claim!
Surely you are capable of carrying on a basic conversation. Spouting slogans while ignoring relevant queries isn't going to achieve anything beyond alienating members of this site.
The divinity of Jesus is provedIn the New Testament Jesus claimed not to be God, but Christians did not invent in what way Jesus is God, this is Christian dogma.
Thank you for answering. Ecurb Noselrub already cited one example in the Bible (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=john+1%3A1-5&version=NIV) stating unequivocally that Jesus and the Christian god are one.QuoteIn the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.
[John 1:1-5 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=john+1%3A1-5&version=NIV)]
The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.
[John 1-14 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=john+1%3A14&version=NIV)]
Jesus is clearly claiming to be the Jewish god when he says in the Gospel of John (https://mobile.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=john+10%3A27-30&version=NIV):QuoteMy sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all; no one can snatch them out of my Father’s hand. I and the Father are one.
Beyond this, there are many examples in the New Testament in which it is stated explicitly that Jesus is the Christian god. Why do you claim that Jesus said that he wasn't?
The divinity of Jesus is proved
for your words? I think not !
“You have heard what I said to you, I go and return to you. If you loved me, you would rejoice because I am going to my Father, because my Father is GREATER THAN
I. ”(John, XIV: 28.)
I am an atheist, and to me there is no evidence that the Historical Jesus existed!The divinity of Jesus is proved
for your words? I think not !
“You have heard what I said to you, I go and return to you. If you loved me, you would rejoice because I am going to my Father, because my Father is GREATER THAN
I. ”(John, XIV: 28.)
You misunderstand me. I am not claiming that Jesus was divine. I am pointing out that the majority of Christians believe that he is their god. I have shown that their belief is supported by their book, whether you like that or not.
Your inane claim that atheists mistakenly "think that Jesus and God are the same thing" is unsupportable and counterfactual.
“You have heard what I said to you, I go and return to you. If you loved me, you would rejoice because I am going to my Father, because my Father is GREATER THAN
I. ”(John, XIV: 28.)
liked it ! there are others ?
“You have heard what I said to you, I go and return to you. If you loved me, you would rejoice because I am going to my Father, because my Father is GREATER THAN
I. ”(John, XIV: 28.)(https://media1.tenor.com/images/b631deae58b86cb351b4bc8d41e72f3e/tenor.gif)
I am an atheist, and to me there is no evidence that the Historical Jesus existed!
Other what?liked it ! there are others ?
“You have heard what I said to you, I go and return to you. If you loved me, you would rejoice because I am going to my Father, because my Father is GREATER THAN
I. ”(John, XIV: 28.)(https://media1.tenor.com/images/b631deae58b86cb351b4bc8d41e72f3e/tenor.gif)
Other what?
Other what?
That would be quotes from the bibel Magdalena. Do you really want more? :shocked: :hahaha...no:
The gif means: "I'm not listening." "I can't hear you." "I don't want to hear you--Thank you."Other what?liked it ! there are others ?
“You have heard what I said to you, I go and return to you. If you loved me, you would rejoice because I am going to my Father, because my Father is GREATER THAN
I. ”(John, XIV: 28.)(https://media1.tenor.com/images/b631deae58b86cb351b4bc8d41e72f3e/tenor.gif)
The gif means: "I'm not listening." "I can't hear you." "I don't want to hear you--Thank you."
Awwww...You're a gif lover!?The gif means: "I'm not listening." "I can't hear you." "I don't want to hear you--Thank you."
Well, I knew that didn't I? ::) "A picture is worth a thousand words" But tell me please. . . Where do you get these brilliant animated gifs from? Do you have a huge stockpile of them in a hidden folder, some of which you add your own text to? Do keep them coming! :frolic:
Awwww...You're a gif lover!?
:secrets1: Some people hate them very much around here. The gifs not the users.
But, here you go: :grin: (sorry guys)
https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/index.php?topic=14101.0
:snicker: You're welcome, Red_Cloud
Awwww...You're a gif lover!?
:secrets1: Some people hate them very much around here. The gifs, not the users.
But, here you go: :grin: (sorry guys)
https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/index.php?topic=14101.0
WOW!!!!....Thanks Magdalena! (https://i.imgur.com/bZpkrXB.gif)
... Not only that, she has a dragon in her garage. Her dragon is a distant cousin to the dragon that lives in my garage.Sure, Puff The Magic Dragon, everyone knows that.
Mags is incredibly fluent in Gifese. She always finds the perfect one for every circumstance. :tellmemore:Awww, Fernandita, you're so sweet. :hug: A lot of people here are incredibly fluent in Gifese. You, Davin, Bruno, let's see...who else? :chin:
Mags is incredibly fluent in Gifese. She always finds the perfect one for every circumstance. :tellmemore:Awww, Fernandita, you're so sweet. :hug: A lot of people here are incredibly fluent in Gifese. You, Davin, Bruno, let's see...who else? :chin:
Buddy!
(https://media.giphy.com/media/4jEFaBOIlpovm/giphy.gif)Mags is incredibly fluent in Gifese. She always finds the perfect one for every circumstance. :tellmemore:Awww, Fernandita, you're so sweet. :hug: A lot of people here are incredibly fluent in Gifese. You, Davin, Bruno, let's see...who else? :chin:
Buddy!
Yes, this forum is full of fluent Gifers. :smilenod: But not me, I'm like the person who tries very hard but just doesn't get it quite right. :P
(https://media1.tenor.com/images/fef1cff90d4b97006ee5354eefd48b60/tenor.gif?itemid=5583449)
^^^
This is so much better than trying to figure out if Jesus is or isn't a god. :lol: