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Title: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Recusant on November 11, 2015, 11:29:56 PM
OK, mine is not a great title, but I think that the article linked below is superb, as well as somewhat troubling. Trump's demagoguery and its symbiosis with a particular demographic fits into a rather dark pattern. The initial disclaimer is not much comfort, in the light of what follows.

"Donald Trump and the 'F-Word'" | The Washington Spectator (http://washingtonspectator.org/donald-trump-and-the-f-word/)

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Donald Trump is not a fascist––probably.

His ex-wife Ivana once claimed he kept a volume of Hitler’s collected speeches in a cabinet by his bed, and read from time to time the fuhrer’s vision of human life as a pitiless war of all against all. “If I had these speeches, and I am not saying that I do, I would never read them,” he told Vanity Fair in 1990. But consider something the architect of Trump Tower, Der Scutt, once said on how to evaluate the truth value of Donald Trump claims: “divide by two, then divide by four, and you’re closer to the answer.”

Trump worships armed force, pronouncing at a rally in August in Derry, New Hampshire: “I believe in the military and military strength more strongly than anybody running by a factor of a billion.” (Applying Scutt’s formula, that means Trump believes in military strength 125,000,000 times more than Lindsey Graham, who opened his presidential campaign with a promise to go to war with Iran.)

[Continues . . . (http://washingtonspectator.org/donald-trump-and-the-f-word/)]
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Sandra Craft on November 12, 2015, 01:45:07 AM
What astonishes me is his ability to continue blathering even after being called out on it (like this fondness for the bible, despite knowing little to nothing about it).  It's so massive and impervious I almost have to admire it.  Almost.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Davin on November 12, 2015, 01:30:09 PM
What astonishes me is his ability to continue blathering even after being called out on it (like this fondness for the bible, despite knowing little to nothing about it).  It's so massive and impervious I almost have to admire it.  Almost.
It's one of the techniques of a confidence man, you are supposed to stick to your story no matter what. If you sound confident enough, if you deny and keep to your story well enough, people start to doubt the facts and trust the story. Of course it works better in a personal environment, especially one where looking up the facts is difficult, but if Republicans looked up facts, they wouldn't be letting these idiots represent them.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Recusant on November 12, 2015, 02:49:15 PM
The essay addresses this. In the section titled "Direct mail hustlers," Perlstein talks about how a certain conservative demographic is targeted by the hustlers, and also describes Trump's long history of blatant self-serving dishonesty: He knows his audience.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Icarus on November 13, 2015, 05:49:54 AM
I am baffled by the fact that this clown is in first or second place in the polls, and has been at or near the lead for quite some time.  :???:
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Tank on November 13, 2015, 06:47:57 AM
It's astonishing.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Sandra Craft on November 13, 2015, 06:52:43 AM
The essay addresses this. In the section titled "Direct mail hustlers," Perlstein talks about how a certain conservative demographic is targeted by the hustlers, and also describes Trump's long history of blatant self-serving dishonesty: He knows his audience.

I can't read the essay -- that much Donald depresses me.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Crow on November 13, 2015, 11:50:28 AM
I am baffled by the fact that this clown is in first or second place in the polls, and has been at or near the lead for quite some time.  :???:

What! Really!? I thought he was considered a joke candidate still. Perhaps that is due to me following the instagram account of donaldtrumpdoingthings (https://instagram.com/donaldtrumpdoingthings/).
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Magdalena on November 14, 2015, 08:21:31 AM
OK, mine is not a great title, but I think that the article linked below is superb, as well as somewhat troubling. Trump's demagoguery and its symbiosis with a particular demographic fits into a rather dark pattern. The initial disclaimer is not much comfort, in the light of what follows.

"Donald Trump and the 'F-Word'" | The Washington Spectator (http://washingtonspectator.org/donald-trump-and-the-f-word/)

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Donald Trump is not a fascist––probably.

His ex-wife Ivana once claimed he kept a volume of Hitler’s collected speeches in a cabinet by his bed, and read from time to time the fuhrer’s vision of human life as a pitiless war of all against all. “If I had these speeches, and I am not saying that I do, I would never read them,” he told Vanity Fair in 1990. But consider something the architect of Trump Tower, Der Scutt, once said on how to evaluate the truth value of Donald Trump claims: “divide by two, then divide by four, and you’re closer to the answer.”

Trump worships armed force, pronouncing at a rally in August in Derry, New Hampshire: “I believe in the military and military strength more strongly than anybody running by a factor of a billion.” (Applying Scutt’s formula, that means Trump believes in military strength 125,000,000 times more than Lindsey Graham, who opened his presidential campaign with a promise to go to war with Iran.)

[Continues . . . (http://washingtonspectator.org/donald-trump-and-the-f-word/)]

If Mr. Donald Trump has been insulted for what he has said, so far, then I don’t think there anything else I can add to the list--I’m sure everything has already been said, even the F word.

I think this is the reason he hates us:It's official: Latinos now outnumber whites in California (http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-census-latinos-20150708-story.html)

...And because:California's Economy Poised to Overtake Brazil. If California were a country, it would be one of the largest economic powers of the world. (http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/California-Poised-to-Overtake-Brazil-7th-Largest-Economy-289168421.html#ixzz3rKw4aTPBl)

The article you posted says:
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The leader of a white-supremacist think tank toldThe New Yorker: “I don’t think Trump is a white nationalist,” although he did reflect “an unconscious vision that white people have––that their grandchildren might be a hated minority in their own country . . . he is the one person who can tap into it.”
These people can sit around and talk about how much this concerns them, that's fine, but while they talk about it, we, the ‘Mexicans’ will continue to get up early in the morning and go to work--every fucking day so that the government can provide some of these people who hate us--food stamps and welfare checks. Yet, they claim that we, 'the undocumented' are the ones on welfare and food stamps when they know that 'the undocumented' don't qualify for these programs.

On a personal note, Mr. Donald Trump has made me cry--twice. His words and the words of the Beverly Hillbillies (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwzaxUF0k18) who follow him hurt. But what hurts the most is that all some of us can do, because we are undocumented and can’t vote, is beat up a piñata that looks like him to get rid of our frustration.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Sandra Craft on November 14, 2015, 10:57:01 AM
The article you posted says:
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The leader of a white-supremacist think tank toldThe New Yorker: “I don’t think Trump is a white nationalist,” although he did reflect “an unconscious vision that white people have––that their grandchildren might be a hated minority in their own country . . . he is the one person who can tap into it.”

I wonder if it's possible this white supremacist will ever realize that, while going from majority to minority is just the luck of the draw and part of the inevitable changes that happen over time, being hated is generally under our own control.

Also, there are Trump pinatas?
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Magdalena on November 15, 2015, 02:50:31 AM
Also, there are Trump pinatas?
Yes.
Photos: Donald Trump pinatas selling fast in downtown Los Angeles (http://photos.dailynews.com/2015/09/photos-donald-trump-pinatas-selling-fast-in-downtown-los-angeles/#1).

Look at the comment someone made at the bottom of the article:
SO where is the ILLEGAL ALIEN Pinatas ? I'd buy one in a heartbeat.

(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/Smileys/default/Pensive.jpg)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Icarus on November 15, 2015, 06:16:27 AM
Mags, I did not know that you were sensitive about the sort of stuff that some shit head has uttered. Please don't be.

If you watched the Nov 16th Democrat debate you will have been pleased. Both Hillary and Bernie rose soundly to the defense of our immigrants, documented or not. 
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Sandra Craft on November 15, 2015, 05:51:10 PM
Also, there are Trump pinatas?
Yes.
Photos: Donald Trump pinatas selling fast in downtown Los Angeles (http://photos.dailynews.com/2015/09/photos-donald-trump-pinatas-selling-fast-in-downtown-los-angeles/#1).

And me with a birthday coming up.   :frolic:

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Look at the comment someone made at the bottom of the article:
SO where is the ILLEGAL ALIEN Pinatas ? I'd buy one in a heartbeat.

(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/Smileys/default/Pensive.jpg)

Some people just gotta be assholes.  They're the ones who end up perplexed that they're hated.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Magdalena on November 16, 2015, 02:19:59 AM
Also, there are Trump pinatas?
Yes.
Photos: Donald Trump pinatas selling fast in downtown Los Angeles (http://photos.dailynews.com/2015/09/photos-donald-trump-pinatas-selling-fast-in-downtown-los-angeles/#1).

And me with a birthday coming up.   :frolic:
Spoiler: ShowHide
 :puppysnicker:
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Magdalena on November 16, 2015, 02:22:30 AM
Mags, I did not know that you were sensitive about the sort of stuff that some shit head has uttered. Please don't be.

If you watched the Nov 16th Democrat debate you will have been pleased. Both Hillary and Bernie rose soundly to the defense of our immigrants, documented or not.
:-*
You're very sweet, my dear Icarus.



Now, let's keep talking about the Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald  :smilenod:
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Sandra Craft on November 16, 2015, 04:14:13 AM
Now, let's keep talking about the Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald  :smilenod:

I can't, I have a sensitive stomach.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Icarus on November 16, 2015, 10:31:08 PM
To his credit, the Duke of Bullshit has the capacity for taking pretty wives. I envy him because the bullshit line never worked for me when it came to women.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: xSilverPhinx on November 16, 2015, 11:35:26 PM
To his credit, the Duke of Bullshit has the capacity for taking pretty wives. I envy him because the bullshit line never worked for me when it came to women.

Yep. He has lots of credit for sure.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: jumbojak on December 28, 2015, 01:13:48 AM
Now, let's keep talking about the Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald  :smilenod:

I can't, I have a sensitive stomach.

(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.camaroz28.com%2Fforums%2Fimages%2Fsmilies%2Fgr_barf.gif&hash=b0d0911016d3cb0bc41ec49e9c610f22e836ca15)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: MadBomr101 on December 31, 2015, 04:09:40 AM
Yes, "The Donald" is a disaster of biblical proportions. Trump is an arrogant, obnoxious, self-absorbed blowhard with the all the diplomatic refinement of a soccer hooligan but is he the worst?  Ted Cruz is a slickly manipulative compulsive liar who is functionally incapable of telling the truth and has all the integrity of a confidence trickster. Both are smug, both are megalomaniacs, and both would drag down this country's reputation on the world stage even lower than Bush did. 

We don't know who either favors as a running mate should either become the Republican nominee but we do know that Trump personally likes and admires Sarah Palin which means he could potentially choose her as either his running mate or possibly offer her a cabinet position in a Trump administration.

Sarah Palin!?

Cruz is an extremist - a Tea Party ultra conservative Xian crank whose just repugnant on every level. His father is a psychotic pastor who's convinced his son has been chosen by god to be President and is in favor of a theocracy. This is the man who has helped mold Cruz's thinking since childhood.

Honestly, I'm not sure this country could survive either one of them. We're in deep shit if either of these clowns is made Commander-in-Chief... and they're the GOP frontrunners!

I never thought I'd say this but pray for America.   :'(
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Recusant on January 02, 2016, 12:42:13 PM
It is possible that Clinton was being a bit premature when she said that jihadists were using video of Donald Trump for recruitment purposes. They definitely are doing so now, and I don't think it's to make Hillary Clinton's statement true. Trump's chest-thumping proto-fascist rhetoric plays right into their hands. "Al-Shabaab Releases Recruitment Video Featuring Donald Trump" | ABC (autoplay video at linked page) (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/al-shabaab-releases-recruitment-video-featuring-donald-trump/story?id=36052185)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Icarus on January 05, 2016, 03:00:38 AM
Lunatics will seize on any opportunity or notion to promote their own agenda. It is not inconceivable that Hillary's suggestion gave them the idea.  That is not to indict Hillary for mentioning a possibility. In fact anything that we might say may be used as a reason for crazies to react.  As much as I dislike the Donald, I defend his right to say whatever he damned well pleases even if it is stupid.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Ecurb Noselrub on January 05, 2016, 03:07:17 AM
In this next election we will see just how crazy we have become in this country.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Magdalena on January 05, 2016, 04:37:00 AM
Hay, dios mio!
:picard facepalm: Donald Trump's first TV ad shows migrants 'at the southern border,' but they're actually in Morocco
 (http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/jan/04/donald-trump/donald-trumps-first-tv-ad-shows-migrants-southern-/)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Davin on January 05, 2016, 02:31:59 PM
I think that shit commercial serves a few purposes:

It really looks like Donald Trump could be the next Hitler. And I know, mentioning Hitler is way too over done, but I really looks like Trump is trying to follow in Adolf's footsteps.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Tank on January 20, 2016, 06:15:38 AM
No, just fucking no! (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-35358209)

The American dream becomes a nightmare.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Davin on January 20, 2016, 01:40:34 PM
I'd like to say that maybe that will kill his campaign like it did to McCain... but it seems like no matter how wrong Trump is, he still gets supported.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Papasito Bruno on January 20, 2016, 01:55:49 PM
I think this is the specific point in US history which future historians will describe as the exact moment America fucking went "off it's rocker"...

Here are some excerpts from Palin ramble last night, which I could not watch entirely, I had to shut it off.

She states this nonsense and then later say's Trump will be the type of Commander in Chief who "will let our warriors do their job — and go kick ISIS ass!"
(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F3N8nJcT.jpg&hash=4f288127d1a9a74af5b9530c309127530131b5b7)

This second doesn't even make sense, can you imagine having to transcribe this dribble?
(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fl4VFYyq.jpg&hash=e5051cd6f1ca265bb5b29228b7250fa53e0f2596)

Daily News got it correct.
(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F5aPtIQL.jpg&hash=f89ae37651b4951e48e2db303269e53e760cb9ec)

Plus what was she wearing last night at her speech, was her top made out of bullets? 

Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Sandra Craft on January 29, 2016, 11:47:52 PM
I'll just leave this here --
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Papasito Bruno on January 30, 2016, 02:39:13 AM
^^That was good Sandy^^
                   :P
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Magdalena on January 30, 2016, 06:25:26 AM
^^^
That was great! “It is nice to see you finally reach out to a person of color.”  :snicker:
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Claireliontamer on February 01, 2016, 10:36:08 PM

This made me chuckle.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Crow on February 03, 2016, 03:49:54 PM
[youtube width=700]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Dtg4xxr_vo[/youtube]

Mags, Bruno how's that make you feel. The future of America. One that idolises Trump. Can you imagine 20 years time the leaders and politicians who grew up wanting to be the next Donald Trump. Must make you oh so proud to be an American.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Papasito Bruno on February 04, 2016, 03:10:24 AM
Not long ago I went to a Muslim wedding that was held in a Christian church, and afterwards during the reception everyone was dancing to Salsa...so yeah I'm pretty proud! :cheerleader:




However, Mr Trump is definatley an embarrassment, who I quite despise...
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Crow on February 04, 2016, 09:42:45 AM
However, Mr Trump is definatley an embarrassment, who I quite despise...

Lets just hope it isn't a watershed moment for your politics. I can't imagine how much worse the Republican party can get.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Tank on February 04, 2016, 12:49:15 PM
However, Mr Trump is definatley an embarrassment, who I quite despise...

Lets just hope it isn't a watershed moment for your politics. I can't imagine how much worse the Republican party can get.
ISIS?
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Davin on February 04, 2016, 02:03:46 PM
However, Mr Trump is definatley an embarrassment, who I quite despise...

Lets just hope it isn't a watershed moment for your politics. I can't imagine how much worse the Republican party can get.
ISIS?
I don't think they are all that far off from that.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Papasito Bruno on February 04, 2016, 02:07:05 PM
However, Mr Trump is definatley an embarrassment, who I quite despise...

Lets just hope it isn't a watershed moment for your politics. I can't imagine how much worse the Republican party can get.
ISIS?
I don't think they are all that far off from that.


Such as the armed, white, christian conservatives, militia types known as y'all qaeda?

(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FeE5Uk77.jpg&hash=5c4bec61c57958b65a80885e1ffde83e36a5a327)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Guardian85 on February 04, 2016, 02:53:43 PM
Worth a look:

http://trumpdonald.org/
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Papasito Bruno on February 15, 2016, 06:33:57 PM
SOME DOONESBURY



(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FpxHXzJe.jpg&hash=610cce21dc0aac32e7d97b5c8714d00f237b16eb)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Papasito Bruno on March 01, 2016, 02:24:52 PM
Trump gets skewered by John Oliver on his show...“Donald Trump is America’s back mole,” said John Oliver on Last Week Tonight. “It may have seemed harmless a year ago, but now that it has gotten frighteningly bigger it is no longer wise to ignore it.”




Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: MadBomr101 on March 02, 2016, 02:23:20 AM
Donald Trump is the presidential candidate equivalent of an internet troll.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Papasito Bruno on March 02, 2016, 03:45:55 AM
Donald Trump is the presidential candidate equivalent of an internet troll.

I agree, except we can't ban him.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Claireliontamer on March 02, 2016, 08:50:54 AM
Donald Trump is the presidential candidate equivalent of an internet troll.

I agree, except we can't ban him.

Start a petition, we tried but our stupid givernment debated it and said no.  Yours might actually go for it at the moment.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: chimp3 on March 02, 2016, 11:02:00 AM
If the KKK endorsed me as a candidate I would drop out of the race , find a quiet mountaintop hideaway , and stay there a few years. Take some time to do a serious inner survey and find out where I went wrong.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: xSilverPhinx on March 02, 2016, 11:17:28 AM
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Tank on March 02, 2016, 01:04:59 PM
If the KKK endorsed me as a candidate I would drop out of the race , find a quiet mountaintop hideaway , and stay there a few years. Take some time to do a serious inner survey and find out where I went wrong.
Which just goes to show you're not Donald Trump!
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Bad Penny on March 02, 2016, 01:14:53 PM
He has such lovely hand though.
Much nicer than Hillary's hands.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: xSilverPhinx on March 02, 2016, 10:57:15 PM
He has such lovely hand though.
Much nicer than Hillary's hands.

I never did notice his hands, I was always mesmerized by his tuff of hair.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Pasta Chick on March 03, 2016, 01:27:06 AM
Drumpf Suffers 3rd Degree Posterior Burns In Unexplained Pants Fire (http://newsthump.com/2016/02/29/donald-trump-suffers-3rd-degree-posterior-burns-in-unexplained-pants-fire/)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Sandra Craft on March 03, 2016, 01:41:56 AM
He has such lovely hand though.
Much nicer than Hillary's hands.

Such tiny, tiny fingers.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: chimp3 on March 03, 2016, 12:09:50 PM
Best description of Trump I have seen yet : Gold-plated Dumpster Fire.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Nam on March 03, 2016, 09:20:55 PM
What astonishes me is his ability to continue blathering even after being called out on it (like this fondness for the bible, despite knowing little to nothing about it).  It's so massive and impervious I almost have to admire it.  Almost.

He's becoming a true politician, he flip-flopped recently. Two weeks ago he said he was for the individual mandate and now he says he's not.

-Nam
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Nam on March 03, 2016, 09:25:40 PM
To his credit, the Duke of Bullshit has the capacity for taking pretty wives. I envy him because the bullshit line never worked for me when it came to women.

Plus, you're probably not a billionaire.

;)

-Nam
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Nam on March 03, 2016, 09:29:45 PM
Lunatics will seize on any opportunity or notion to promote their own agenda. It is not inconceivable that Hillary's suggestion gave them the idea.  That is not to indict Hillary for mentioning a possibility. In fact anything that we might say may be used as a reason for crazies to react.  As much as I dislike the Donald, I defend his right to say whatever he damned well pleases even if it is stupid.

It's funny how we'll defend him/them but they'd never defend us. Freedom of Speech in their minds only applies to them.

-Nam
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Nam on March 03, 2016, 09:39:19 PM
However, Mr Trump is definatley an embarrassment, who I quite despise...

Lets just hope it isn't a watershed moment for your politics. I can't imagine how much worse the Republican party can get.

Think: The South Will Rise Again!

-Nam
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Recusant on March 04, 2016, 11:26:49 AM
Harking back to the OP of this thread, and pointing to a possible way that the Republican party could get worse: "The rise of American authoritarianism" | Vox (http://www.vox.com/2016/3/1/11127424/trump-authoritarianism)

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For years now, before anyone thought a person like Donald Trump could possibly lead a presidential primary, a small but respected niche of academic research has been laboring over a question, part political science and part psychology, that had captivated political scientists since the rise of the Nazis.

How do people come to adopt, in such large numbers and so rapidly, extreme political views that seem to coincide with fear of minorities and with the desire for a strongman leader?

To answer that question, these theorists study what they call authoritarianism: not the dictators themselves, but rather the psychological profile of people who, under the right conditions, will desire certain kinds of extreme policies and will seek strongman leaders to implement them.

(The political phenomenon we identify as right-wing populism seems to line up, with almost astonishing precision, with the research on how authoritarianism is both caused and expressed)

After an early period of junk science in the mid-20th century, a more serious group of scholars has addressed this question, specifically studying how it plays out in American politics: researchers like Hetherington and Weiler, Stanley Feldman, Karen Stenner, and Elizabeth Suhay, to name just a few.

The field, after a breakthrough in the early 1990s, has come to develop the contours of a grand theory of authoritarianism, culminating quite recently, in 2005, with Stenner's seminal The Authoritarian Dynamic — just in time for that theory to seemingly come true, more rapidly and in greater force than any of them had imagined, in the personage of one Donald Trump and his norm-shattering rise.

According to Stenner's theory, there is a certain subset of people who hold latent authoritarian tendencies. These tendencies can be triggered or "activated" by the perception of physical threats or by destabilizing social change, leading those individuals to desire policies and leaders that we might more colloquially call authoritarian.

[Continues . . . (http://www.vox.com/2016/3/1/11127424/trump-authoritarianism)]
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Papasito Bruno on March 05, 2016, 02:32:12 AM
(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F9xV0Q5J.jpg&hash=7ebb426ba615b7e91776cc9814d69bbe82fd6542)

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Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Bad Penny on March 05, 2016, 01:39:23 PM
Why doesn't Ronald McDonald run for president?
He has much better hair.
He must be much richer.
He finishes his sentences.
He has a bunch of friends.
He's a much better Donald.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Pasta Chick on March 05, 2016, 03:13:55 PM
Why doesn't Ronald McDonald run for president?
He has much better hair.
He must be much richer.
He finishes his sentences.
He has a bunch of friends.
He's a much better Donald.

The Donald thought you might say something like that, and has flip-flopped accordingly to increase his appeal

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Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: xSilverPhinx on March 06, 2016, 02:21:11 AM
Why doesn't Ronald McDonald run for president?
He has much better hair.
He must be much richer.
He finishes his sentences.
He has a bunch of friends.
He's a much better Donald.

Not to mention he has longer fingers.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Papasito Bruno on March 06, 2016, 07:07:12 PM
You may have heard this before that Trump had or has kept a compilation of Hitler’s speeches next to his bed over the years, and according to his wife at the time Ivanka, he would sometimes go through the speeches.

This story was first reported in a 1990 Vanity Fair profile of Trump, and this alarming practice has been added to the arsenal some in the Republican party are using to try and potentially block a Trump nomination at the Republican Convention in July.


Bill Maher demonstrated this the other night on his show when he had a speech of Adolph Hitler “translated” to English in order to contextualize Donald Trump’s hate speeches.

Here’s the transcript of Mahar’s “translation” of an old "Hitler" speech.

“We’re going to make Germany great again, that I can tell you. Germany doesn’t win anymore. England, France, America — they’re laughing at us. The Treaty of Versailles? A terrible deal! “And look, I love the Jews — nobody loves the Jews more than me, but folks, either we have a Fatherland or we don’t. So we’re gonna have to build a camp. And I will make the Jews pay for it.”

Or the full video

Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: xSilverPhinx on March 06, 2016, 08:33:54 PM
If Trump wins I would like to leave this planet, please.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Nam on March 07, 2016, 12:26:04 AM
If Trump wins I would like to leave this planet, please.

He'll follow you with his small hands, and tiny dick and catch you with his hair.

Hell's coming, and it's called The United States of Trump!

-Nam
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Ecurb Noselrub on March 07, 2016, 12:51:05 AM
I still think that he gets the GOP nomination but loses the general election in November.  If he is clearly defeated in the general, that would be a resounding rejection of him, the best possible ending. I still can't believe and I do not think that this nation would elect him. 
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Nam on March 07, 2016, 02:54:40 AM
I still think that he gets the GOP nomination but loses the general election in November.  If he is clearly defeated in the general, that would be a resounding rejection of him, the best possible ending. I still can't believe and I do not think that this nation would elect him. 

You're forgetting a maybe contested convention, and he runs third party if not picked. Why do you think he wants Rubio (who just won Puerto Rico today and got all the delegates there) to drop out? Rubio could still pick up a few states but he needs to get Florida. If Rubio gets Florida, Trump and Cruz will not get the needed delegates, and it will go to the convention and the RNC doesn't like Trump or Cruz. Why do you think Kasich is still in it? He's hoping for a contested convention. And that will secure the nomination for the Democrat Nominee.

-Nam
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Ecurb Noselrub on March 07, 2016, 05:10:16 AM
I still think that he gets the GOP nomination but loses the general election in November.  If he is clearly defeated in the general, that would be a resounding rejection of him, the best possible ending. I still can't believe and I do not think that this nation would elect him. 

You're forgetting a maybe contested convention, and he runs third party if not picked. Why do you think he wants Rubio (who just won Puerto Rico today and got all the delegates there) to drop out? Rubio could still pick up a few states but he needs to get Florida. If Rubio gets Florida, Trump and Cruz will not get the needed delegates, and it will go to the convention and the RNC doesn't like Trump or Cruz. Why do you think Kasich is still in it? He's hoping for a contested convention. And that will secure the nomination for the Democrat Nominee.

-Nam

I'm not forgetting any of those possibilities.  I just think Trump will be the nominee and he will lose in the general.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Nam on March 07, 2016, 07:37:19 AM
All the nominees on the Republican side will lose, unless it's someone like Paul Ryan or Paul Ryan.

-Nam
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Steeler on March 09, 2016, 02:08:11 AM
I think Trump will get the nomination, and lose to Hillary. (shivers)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Nam on March 09, 2016, 03:23:23 AM
I think Trump will get the nomination, and lose to Hillary. (shivers)


That's the plan.

-Nam
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Sandra Craft on March 15, 2016, 12:30:29 AM
Harking back to the OP of this thread, and pointing to a possible way that the Republican party could get worse: "The rise of American authoritarianism" | Vox (http://www.vox.com/2016/3/1/11127424/trump-authoritarianism)


And now we're getting told it's not authoritarianism, it's populism that determines Trump supporters.  At this point I get the feeling they're splitting hairs:  new research on Trump supporters (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2016/03/09/trumps-voters-arent-authoritarians-new-research-says-so-what-are-they/)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Nam on March 15, 2016, 12:39:52 AM
I thought Trump supporters were all racist bigots like Trump. They support a racist bigot so...

-Nam
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Sandra Craft on March 15, 2016, 02:25:22 AM
And now for a brief humor break: Sanders sends vegan thugs to attack peace-loving Nazis (http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/sanders-sends-vegan-thugs-to-attack-peace-loving-nazis)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Magdalena on March 15, 2016, 02:55:24 AM
And now for a brief humor break: Sanders sends vegan thugs to attack peace-loving Nazis (http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/sanders-sends-vegan-thugs-to-attack-peace-loving-nazis)

^^^
 :snicker:
Quote
Carol Foyler, a Nazi from suburban Cincinnati, said that she feared for her life when one of the vegans “ripped a Trump sign” from her hands and “tried to recycle it.”

Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Nam on March 15, 2016, 02:58:28 AM
And now for a brief humor break: Sanders sends vegan thugs to attack peace-loving Nazis (http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/sanders-sends-vegan-thugs-to-attack-peace-loving-nazis)

DAMN THOSE VEGANS!!!

-Nam
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Magdalena on March 15, 2016, 03:51:31 AM
Here's another one.  :snicker:
Bernie Sanders scares Trump at Ohio Rally
 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-9kZb9nDoE)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Sandra Craft on March 15, 2016, 06:08:46 AM
^^ Genius!
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Sandra Craft on March 15, 2016, 06:11:30 AM

 :snicker:
Quote
Carol Foyler, a Nazi from suburban Cincinnati, said that she feared for her life when one of the vegans “ripped a Trump sign” from her hands and “tried to recycle it.”

My favorite:

Quote
Harland Dorrinson, a Kentucky Nazi who drove to Ohio to hear Trump speak, said he would never have attended the rally if he had known “there would be troublemaking vegans there.”

“One of them tried to swing an NPR tote bag at my head,” the terrified Nazi said.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Papasito Bruno on March 17, 2016, 04:06:06 PM
WE NEED TO BAN SHREDDED CHEESE
SO WE CAN
MAKE
AMERICA
GRATE AGAIN
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Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: xSilverPhinx on March 17, 2016, 09:56:38 PM
Here's another one.  :snicker:
Bernie Sanders scares Trump at Ohio Rally
 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-9kZb9nDoE)

 :rofl:

Good one!
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Magdalena on April 25, 2016, 04:07:40 AM
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Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Recusant on April 25, 2016, 03:47:59 PM
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Pasta Chick on May 10, 2016, 06:48:35 PM
The nerd in me wants this to be real.

Psychiatric Hospitals Flooded by Time Travelers Sent to Kill Trump (http://newsthump.com/2016/03/03/psychiatric-hospitals-filling-up-with-time-travellers-sent-back-to-kill-donald-trump/?utm_campaign=shareaholic&utm_medium=facebook&utm_source=socialnetwork)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: joeactor on May 10, 2016, 10:24:03 PM
The nerd in me wants this to be real.

Psychiatric Hospitals Flooded by Time Travelers Sent to Kill Trump (http://newsthump.com/2016/03/03/psychiatric-hospitals-filling-up-with-time-travellers-sent-back-to-kill-donald-trump/?utm_campaign=shareaholic&utm_medium=facebook&utm_source=socialnetwork)

I've been thinking about that one for a while...

Now, here's something to help you all sleep tonight:
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Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Pasta Chick on May 11, 2016, 01:12:47 AM
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Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Davin on May 11, 2016, 02:30:33 PM
I wish that quote were true. But I think that even if it was true, it would have no effect on his supporters.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Icarus on June 01, 2016, 12:40:53 AM
Todays news has the head North Korean honcho endorsing Trump because he wants the South Koreans to pay all the costs of having an American military presence. The South Koreans pay about half the costs.  Our military honchos say that the cost of transferring and maintaining our troops back in America would be higher than the actual costs incurred in S. Korea.

One could wonder whether the endorsement of Kim Jung Un or whatever his name is, is a plus or minus for the Trumpsters. 
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Tom62 on June 01, 2016, 05:41:57 AM
Interesting interview with Scott Adams, author of the Dilbert comics, about Donald Trump.
Scott raises some very interesting points, why Hillary Clinton should be very afraid.

Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: joeactor on June 01, 2016, 03:47:18 PM
A Trump Animation per day for June at:
http://unhinged.cuppacoffee.com/ (http://unhinged.cuppacoffee.com/)

Here's today's
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Tom62 on June 05, 2016, 07:31:33 PM
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Recusant on June 05, 2016, 09:57:53 PM
Video: "Why Trump Will SMASH Hillary"

That jackass is just trying to use Trump to promote his own little bullshit enterprise, selling his tricks that supposedly improve people's charisma. He seems oblivious to the fact that Trump's "charisma" is seen by many people as repulsiveness.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Crow on June 06, 2016, 12:51:28 PM
Video: "Why Trump Will SMASH Hillary"

That jackass is just trying to use Trump to promote his own little bullshit enterprise, selling his tricks that supposedly improve people's charisma. He seems oblivious to the fact that Trump's "charisma" is seen by many people as repulsiveness.

I think he is correct. Politics is a numbers game, opinions now matter little as they are fickle things and we have seen many times how those that have been vilified quickly turn to be heroes and vice versa. I personally said ages ago if it is Trump vs Hillary then Trump will win, Bernie vs Trump then it would have been an open field. It isn't even really Trump that will win it, it is his handlers using marketing and advertising tactics and playing from the crowd. Hillary is already in a defensive position and the thing hasn't even got started yet, Trump has more middle ground to work on but Hilary has to win her own as well as the centre and she has the charisma of a potato, people may despise Trump but he will make them react even if it is laughing at him or throwing something at the tv, people are spending more time and focus on him and that is exactly what he wants and what his campaign wants.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Icarus on June 07, 2016, 02:10:10 AM
The Donald has crapped in his mess kit once again. He dissed a federal judge who has a Mexican heritage. The shit has hit the fan as influential members of the GOP chastise him for such a politically stupid pronouncement.  I have confidence that the consummate huckster will somehow cover his ass for the ill advised accusation of judicial prejudice. Meanwhile the great unwashed will probably agree that Donald can not get a fair trial from a 'wetback" judge.  They'll vote for him come hell or high water.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Recusant on June 12, 2016, 12:36:23 AM
David Dunning, half of the eponymous Dunning-Kruger team, has weighed in on a particular aspect of Trump's appeal: "The Psychological Quirk That Explains Why You Love Donald Trump" | Politico (http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/05/donald-trump-supporters-dunning-kruger-effect-213904)

Quote
Many commentators have argued (http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/05/heres-the-real-reason-we-all-underrated-trump.html) that Donald Trump’s dominance in the GOP presidential race can be largely explained by ignorance; his candidacy, after all, is most popular among Republican voters without college degrees. Their expertise about current affairs is too fractured and full of holes to spot that only 9 percent of Trump’s statements are “true” or “mostly” true, according to PolitiFact (http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/), whereas 57 percent are “false” or “mostly false”—the remainder being “pants on fire” untruths. Trump himself has memorably declared (https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-i-love-the-poorly-educated-144008662.html): “I love the poorly educated.”

But as a psychologist who has studied human behavior—including voter behavior—for decades, I think there is something deeper going on. The problem isn’t that voters are too uninformed. It is that they don’t know just how uninformed they are.

[Continues . . . (http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/05/donald-trump-supporters-dunning-kruger-effect-213904)]
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Icarus on June 12, 2016, 02:52:08 AM
The article should give us cause to examine our own presumed sets of information. I am confident that HAFers are a cut above and that they can have the humility and good sense to examine their own beliefs based on whatever information they previously assumed that they have.

 As for the masses, I have no such confidence. Rather, I fear that P.T. Barnum and H.L. Mencken were correct in their assessments of  the great American public.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: xSilverPhinx on June 12, 2016, 01:09:08 PM
David Dunning, half of the eponymous Dunning-Kruger team, has weighed in on a particular aspect of Trump's appeal: "The Psychological Quirk That Explains Why You Love Donald Trump" | Politico (http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/05/donald-trump-supporters-dunning-kruger-effect-213904)

Quote
Many commentators have argued (http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/05/heres-the-real-reason-we-all-underrated-trump.html) that Donald Trump’s dominance in the GOP presidential race can be largely explained by ignorance; his candidacy, after all, is most popular among Republican voters without college degrees. Their expertise about current affairs is too fractured and full of holes to spot that only 9 percent of Trump’s statements are “true” or “mostly” true, according to PolitiFact (http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/), whereas 57 percent are “false” or “mostly false”—the remainder being “pants on fire” untruths. Trump himself has memorably declared (https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-i-love-the-poorly-educated-144008662.html): “I love the poorly educated.”

But as a psychologist who has studied human behavior—including voter behavior—for decades, I think there is something deeper going on. The problem isn’t that voters are too uninformed. It is that they don’t know just how uninformed they are.

[Continues . . . (http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/05/donald-trump-supporters-dunning-kruger-effect-213904)]

The Effect strikes again. Very interesting.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Recusant on June 16, 2016, 04:51:12 PM
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Davin on June 16, 2016, 05:00:57 PM
Well, it's nice to finally have a coherent understanding of his foreign policies.


 ;D
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Firebird on June 16, 2016, 05:48:24 PM
What. The. Fuck.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Tank on June 16, 2016, 06:21:56 PM
Why?  :???:
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: xSilverPhinx on June 16, 2016, 11:14:55 PM

I want whatever the creators of that had.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Davin on June 17, 2016, 02:30:07 PM

I want whatever the creators of that had.
Aw, I thought it was hilarious. I like Mike Diva, this is one of my favorites from him:

Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Recusant on July 05, 2016, 09:40:06 PM
An interesting hit-piece on Donald Trump's connections to Russia: Putin's Puppet | Slate (http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/cover_story/2016/07/vladimir_putin_has_a_plan_for_destroying_the_west_and_it_looks_a_lot_like.html)

Quote
Vladimir Putin has a plan for destroying the West—and that plan looks a lot like Donald Trump. Over the past decade, Russia has boosted right-wing populists (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/08/world/europe/russia-fights-wests-ukraine-sanctions-with-aid-and-ideology.html?_r=1) across Europe. It loaned money to Marine Le Pen in France, well-documented (http://www.euractiv.com/section/europe-s-east/news/national-front-s-russian-loans-cause-uproar-in-european-parliament/) transfusions of cash to keep her presidential campaign alive. Such largesse also wended its way to the former Italian premier Silvio Berlusconi, who profited “personally and handsomely” (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/dec/02/wikileaks-cables-berlusconi-putin) from Russian energy deals, as an American ambassador to Rome once put it. (Berlusconi also shared a 240-year-old bottle (http://www.politico.eu/article/sour-grapes-putin-berlusconi-wine-massandra-ukraine-crimea/) of Crimean wine with Putin and apparently makes ample use of a bed gifted to him by the Russian president.)

There’s a clear pattern (http://www.riskandforecast.com/useruploads/files/pc_flash_report_russian_connection.pdf): Putin runs stealth efforts on behalf of politicians who rail against the European Union and want to push away from NATO. He’s been a patron of Golden Dawn (https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/russia-fsu/2014-03-25/putins-western-allies) in Greece, Ataka in Bulgaria, and Jobbik in Hungary. Joe Biden (http://www.brookings.edu/~/media/events/2015/05/27-biden/20150527_biden_transcript.pdf) warned about this effort last year in a speech at the Brookings Institution: “President Putin sees such political forces as useful tools to be manipulated, to create cracks in the European body politic which he can then exploit.” Ruptures that will likely multiply after Brexit—a campaign Russia’s many propaganda (http://www.interpretermag.com/putins-media-are-pushing-britain-for-the-brexit/) organs bombastically promoted.

The destruction of Europe is a grandiose objective; so is the weakening of the United States. Until recently, Putin has only focused glancing attention on American elections. Then along came the presumptive Republican nominee.

[Continues . . . (http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/cover_story/2016/07/vladimir_putin_has_a_plan_for_destroying_the_west_and_it_looks_a_lot_like.html)]
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Ecurb Noselrub on July 06, 2016, 04:36:54 AM
Trump would be a laughing stock - were it not for Hillary.  She keeps giving him fodder.  Geez, I hope he doesn't win, but the only reason he's still in the game is because Hillary keeps proving she can't be trusted.  Our only hope is the Electoral College.  I still don't think Trump can reach 270, but dammit, Hillary, show us something!!!
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Tank on July 06, 2016, 01:09:40 PM
Trump would be a laughing stock - were it not for Hillary.  She keeps giving him fodder.  Geez, I hope he doesn't win, but the only reason he's still in the game is because Hillary keeps proving she can't be trusted.  Our only hope is the Electoral College.  I still don't think Trump can reach 270, but dammit, Hillary, show us something!!!
If Trump does not get the Republican nomination who would be in the running for it?
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on July 06, 2016, 01:56:42 PM
An interesting hit-piece on Donald Trump's connections to Russia: Putin's Puppet | Slate (http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/cover_story/2016/07/vladimir_putin_has_a_plan_for_destroying_the_west_and_it_looks_a_lot_like.html)

Quote
Vladimir Putin has a plan for destroying the West—and that plan looks a lot like Donald Trump. Over the past decade, Russia has boosted right-wing populists (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/08/world/europe/russia-fights-wests-ukraine-sanctions-with-aid-and-ideology.html?_r=1) across Europe. It loaned money to Marine Le Pen in France, well-documented (http://www.euractiv.com/section/europe-s-east/news/national-front-s-russian-loans-cause-uproar-in-european-parliament/) transfusions of cash to keep her presidential campaign alive. Such largesse also wended its way to the former Italian premier Silvio Berlusconi, who profited “personally and handsomely” (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/dec/02/wikileaks-cables-berlusconi-putin) from Russian energy deals, as an American ambassador to Rome once put it. (Berlusconi also shared a 240-year-old bottle (http://www.politico.eu/article/sour-grapes-putin-berlusconi-wine-massandra-ukraine-crimea/) of Crimean wine with Putin and apparently makes ample use of a bed gifted to him by the Russian president.)

There’s a clear pattern (http://www.riskandforecast.com/useruploads/files/pc_flash_report_russian_connection.pdf): Putin runs stealth efforts on behalf of politicians who rail against the European Union and want to push away from NATO. He’s been a patron of Golden Dawn (https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/russia-fsu/2014-03-25/putins-western-allies) in Greece, Ataka in Bulgaria, and Jobbik in Hungary. Joe Biden (http://www.brookings.edu/~/media/events/2015/05/27-biden/20150527_biden_transcript.pdf) warned about this effort last year in a speech at the Brookings Institution: “President Putin sees such political forces as useful tools to be manipulated, to create cracks in the European body politic which he can then exploit.” Ruptures that will likely multiply after Brexit—a campaign Russia’s many propaganda (http://www.interpretermag.com/putins-media-are-pushing-britain-for-the-brexit/) organs bombastically promoted.

The destruction of Europe is a grandiose objective; so is the weakening of the United States. Until recently, Putin has only focused glancing attention on American elections. Then along came the presumptive Republican nominee.

[Continues . . . (http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/cover_story/2016/07/vladimir_putin_has_a_plan_for_destroying_the_west_and_it_looks_a_lot_like.html)]
What! No word of Brexiteers getting their pockets filled? Hmm, either not yet been discovered or yet to come. It has been mentioned that exit campsogns are in Russia's interest.

Maybe we are doing all that Putin needs voluntarily? An easy strategy for him?

And one that the Trump approves of IIRC
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Firebird on July 06, 2016, 02:00:03 PM
Trump would be a laughing stock - were it not for Hillary.  She keeps giving him fodder.  Geez, I hope he doesn't win, but the only reason he's still in the game is because Hillary keeps proving she can't be trusted.  Our only hope is the Electoral College.  I still don't think Trump can reach 270, but dammit, Hillary, show us something!!!
If Trump does not get the Republican nomination who would be in the running for it?

I highly doubt that will happen at this point, the Republicans would have to contort themselves in backbreaking ways to keep him out.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Ecurb Noselrub on July 06, 2016, 03:55:08 PM
Trump would be a laughing stock - were it not for Hillary.  She keeps giving him fodder.  Geez, I hope he doesn't win, but the only reason he's still in the game is because Hillary keeps proving she can't be trusted.  Our only hope is the Electoral College.  I still don't think Trump can reach 270, but dammit, Hillary, show us something!!!
If Trump does not get the Republican nomination who would be in the running for it?

I highly doubt that will happen at this point, the Republicans would have to contort themselves in backbreaking ways to keep him out.

Agree.  Trump is it for the GOP.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on July 06, 2016, 05:45:16 PM
Quote
Trump is it for the GOP.

Now, what does "GOP" stand for?

Oh yes, "Grand old Party"

Wonder if there could be other meanings . . .

"God's own Politicians" ?
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Sandra Craft on July 06, 2016, 10:49:42 PM
Quote
Trump is it for the GOP.

Now, what does "GOP" stand for?

Oh yes, "Grand old Party"

Wonder if there could be other meanings . . .

"God's own Politicians" ?

"Get Obama Party"
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Magdalena on July 07, 2016, 03:56:34 AM
Quote
Trump is it for the GOP.

Now, what does "GOP" stand for?

Oh yes, "Grand old Party"

Wonder if there could be other meanings . . .

"God's own Politicians" ?

"Get Obama Party"
"Grumpy Old People?" With "Good Old Polyester?"  :notsure:
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Tank on July 07, 2016, 06:46:08 AM
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Trump is it for the GOP.

Now, what does "GOP" stand for?

Oh yes, "Grand old Party"

Wonder if there could be other meanings . . .

"God's own Politicians" ?

"Get Obama Party"
"Grumpy Old People?" With "Good Old Polyester?"  :notsure:
God's Own Party
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: xSilverPhinx on July 07, 2016, 11:50:26 AM
Group Of Politician Poops.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Recusant on July 19, 2016, 05:05:22 PM
The Trump campaign may get around to finding out who's responsible for inserting plagiarized sections (http://www.today.com/news/chris-christie-93-percent-melania-trump-s-speech-differed-michelle-t100943) into Mrs. Trump's speech last night and firing them, but first the campaign is going to milk it to provide more evidence of what complete asses they are, because, you know, their supporters can never get enough of that.

Paul "Advisor to Brutal Dictators" (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/04/13/top-trump-aide-led-the-torturers-lobby.html) Manafort has chosen the tried and true "deny everything and blame it on the other side" (http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/trailguide/la-na-republican-convention-2016-live-paul-manafort-calls-accusations-of-1468926899-htmlstory.html) gambit, because practically nothing makes you look like a complete ass more than denying obvious facts with a straight face.

When I saw the early reporting on this last night, I wondered whether the campaign would choose to present at least the appearance of honesty by throwing a speechwriter under the bus, because doing that would make sense. I should have had more faith in them. This is Trump and Manafort, two world class mountebanks we're talking about here. They have their reputations for astoundingly creepy behavior to think of. Attempting to appear honest is for penny-ante everyday charlatans like used car salesmen.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on July 19, 2016, 05:16:49 PM
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These are common words and values . . .

The words I heard quoted on the BBC seemed to be just about verbatim, if not actually that.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Icarus on July 20, 2016, 12:17:39 AM
Mrs. Trump is now being chastised for lying about her Slovenian college degree. Never mind all that, she is a super fox who can be forgiven for little white lies. 
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on July 20, 2016, 09:17:12 AM
Mrs. Trump is now being chastised for lying about her Slovenian college degree. Never mind all that, she is a super fox who can be forgiven for little white lies.
Don't find her particularly attractive and even white lies at that level are weapons that can be used against the liar and, in this case, a possible president of the US.

Does not say much for her intelligence or those who advise the Trumps.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Pasta Chick on July 20, 2016, 06:19:10 PM
I just can't believe his anti-immigrant fan base has no issue with her being an immigrant that married into citizenship and his money. That's the height of lazy immigration right there.

Noting that I don't personally have a problem with this, as it is an arrangement between consenting adults... I just find it extremely hypocritical.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Magdalena on July 20, 2016, 07:21:37 PM
I just can't believe his anti-immigrant fan base has no issue with her being an immigrant that married into citizenship and his money. That's the height of lazy immigration right there.

Noting that I don't personally have a problem with this, as it is an arrangement between consenting adults... I just find it extremely hypocritical.
I just can't believe some of his anti-immigrant fan base are Mexican Americans or Mexican immigrants. --Specially after what Trump said about them. Maybe they think that when Trump rounds up and deports all of us, he'll spare them. --Yeah, right!  :eyeroll:

Anyways...

If Trump wins, and I stop posting here, you'll know I'm on a train heading south, even though I'm from El Salvador and I'm a US citizen, I probably look Mexican to him and must be deported. --Oh well.  :sad sigh:

It has happened before, you know, but not many remember. I learned about it in my Chicano Studies Class in college:
 :secrets1: (Steeler, this is not sarcasm, "click" on the link.)
Mass Deportation May Sound Unlikely, But It's Happened Before (http://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2015/09/08/437579834/mass-deportation-may-sound-unlikely-but-its-happened-before)

(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.npr.org%2Fassets%2Fimg%2F2015%2F09%2F04%2FMexican%2520Repatriation-ea60674d62ecedce042c706e365cef8361c4e07d-s800-c85.jpg&hash=341e5dfcaceb9de964e21066d615d1be3ff4b042)
Mexican and Mexican-American families wait to board Mexico-bound trains in Los Angeles on March 8, 1932. County officials arranged these mass departures as part of "repatriation campaigns," fueled by fears that Mexicans and Mexican-Americans were taking scarce jobs and government assistance during the Great Depression.
Los Angeles Public Library/Herald Examiner Collection


--Very sad.  :sadnod:
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Sandra Craft on July 21, 2016, 01:06:07 AM
Don't know if you've all seen this yet -- hope it plays, I can't find it anywhere but Uncle George's FB page:  George Takei on Donald Trump, in Spanish (https://www.facebook.com/georgehtakei/videos/1628797660483014/?pnref=story)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: joeactor on July 21, 2016, 01:59:38 AM
Don't know if you've all seen this yet -- hope it plays, I can't find it anywhere but Uncle George's FB page:  George Takei on Donald Trump, in Spanish (https://www.facebook.com/georgehtakei/videos/1628797660483014/?pnref=story)

Thank you - shared!
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Magdalena on July 21, 2016, 04:10:41 AM
Don't know if you've all seen this yet -- hope it plays, I can't find it anywhere but Uncle George's FB page:  George Takei on Donald Trump, in Spanish (https://www.facebook.com/georgehtakei/videos/1628797660483014/?pnref=story)

Thank you - shared!

Wow! I'm also gonna share it, thank you, BooksCatsEtc.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Recusant on July 21, 2016, 07:08:59 AM
. . . It has happened before, you know, but not many remember. I learned about it in my Chicano Studies Class in college . . .

--Very sad.  :sadnod:

Thank you for the link, Magdalena.

Trump likes to cite a different mass deportation (link edited--thank you for pointing out my error, M): "Trump: Eisenhower deported 1.5 million immigrants" | Politifact (http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/nov/11/donald-trump/trump-eisenhower-deported-15-million-immigrants/)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Magdalena on July 21, 2016, 02:35:28 PM
^^^
That's the same link I posted.  :scratch:
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Magdalena on July 21, 2016, 02:48:14 PM
Rafael Edward "Ted" Cruz:
(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F45.media.tumblr.com%2F4048dd939421143d808adfb32ce9dce2%2Ftumblr_mwz5n31ZG61qb0snwo4_r1_250.gif&hash=ffdcd234f499edfd427e49910e16eeffb6494086)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: joeactor on July 21, 2016, 03:01:47 PM
Rafael Edward "Ted" Cruz:
(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F45.media.tumblr.com%2F4048dd939421143d808adfb32ce9dce2%2Ftumblr_mwz5n31ZG61qb0snwo4_r1_250.gif&hash=ffdcd234f499edfd427e49910e16eeffb6494086)

My Facebook post afterward:
"I'm shocked.
I just gained a modicum of respect for Ted Cruz snubbing Donald Trump.
Kinda like when Darth Vader threw Emperor Palatine into the power core.
Kinda... But not quite."
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Davin on July 21, 2016, 03:36:44 PM
So Cruz refused to endorse Trump because Trump insulted his family.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3701464/I-not-habit-supporting-people-attack-wife-attack-father-Cruz-doubles-refuses-endorse-Trump-angry-Texas-delegates-cowboy-hats-demand-GOP-s-nominee.html

But Cruz signed a pledge right? One where he said he would endorse whomever the nominee was? Well, Trump had already rescinded his pledge for being treated unfairly, so does that really apply any more?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/03/30/trump-rescinds-pledge-to-back-republican-nominee-cruz-kasich-refuse-to-commit-support.html
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Bad Penny II on July 21, 2016, 03:54:57 PM
Ted = machine gun bacon guy
He despairs that Donald is v 1
meanwhile in Turkey...
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Recusant on July 21, 2016, 04:22:52 PM
^^^
That's the same link I posted.  :scratch:

Gaah! Thank you for that, Madgalena.  :embarrassed:

I had the stories up in different tabs during the day, and had been meaning to post a reply here. I'm looking after somebody's dog right now, and she was reminding me that it was time for our walk, but I wanted to get that post done before we went out, so I hurried and put the wrong story in. Corrected now. Yes, I'm blaming it on the dog, just as any guilty 10 year old might.  ;D
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Magdalena on July 21, 2016, 06:37:07 PM
. . . It has happened before, you know, but not many remember. I learned about it in my Chicano Studies Class in college . . .

--Very sad.  :sadnod:

Thank you for the link, Magdalena.

Trump likes to cite a different mass deportation (link edited--thank you for pointing out my error, M): "Trump: Eisenhower deported 1.5 million immigrants" | Politifact (http://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2015/09/08/437579834/mass-deportation-may-sound-unlikely-but-its-happened-before)
:secrets1: My dear, Recusant, that's still the same link I posted. Different tittle, but same link. We don't want to confuse Steeler.  :grin:
Maybe it's that ghost in the machine that gentle_dissident mentioned a few days ago. I think it follows me. :notsure:
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Recusant on July 21, 2016, 06:54:16 PM
Yeah, ghost in the machine. It was messing with my post, mischievous spirit that it is. Yeah, that's the ticket. Dogs and ghosts, bad combination all around.

I think I've got it right this time. Re-posting the link here.

"Trump: Eisenhower deported 1.5 million immigrants" | Politifact (http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/nov/11/donald-trump/trump-eisenhower-deported-15-million-immigrants/)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Ecurb Noselrub on July 21, 2016, 07:07:38 PM
I just can't believe his anti-immigrant fan base has no issue with her being an immigrant that married into citizenship and his money. That's the height of lazy immigration right there.

Noting that I don't personally have a problem with this, as it is an arrangement between consenting adults... I just find it extremely hypocritical.
I just can't believe some of his anti-immigrant fan base are Mexican Americans or Mexican immigrants. --Specially after what Trump said about them. Maybe they think that when Trump rounds up and deports all of us, he'll spare them. --Yeah, right!  :eyeroll:

Anyways...

If Trump wins, and I stop posting here, you'll know I'm on a train heading south, even though I'm from El Salvador and I'm a US citizen, I probably look Mexican to him and must be deported. --Oh well.  :sad sigh:

It has happened before, you know, but not many remember. I learned about it in my Chicano Studies Class in college:
 :secrets1: (Steeler, this is not sarcasm, "click" on the link.)
Mass Deportation May Sound Unlikely, But It's Happened Before (http://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2015/09/08/437579834/mass-deportation-may-sound-unlikely-but-its-happened-before)

(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.npr.org%2Fassets%2Fimg%2F2015%2F09%2F04%2FMexican%2520Repatriation-ea60674d62ecedce042c706e365cef8361c4e07d-s800-c85.jpg&hash=341e5dfcaceb9de964e21066d615d1be3ff4b042)
Mexican and Mexican-American families wait to board Mexico-bound trains in Los Angeles on March 8, 1932. County officials arranged these mass departures as part of "repatriation campaigns," fueled by fears that Mexicans and Mexican-Americans were taking scarce jobs and government assistance during the Great Depression.
Los Angeles Public Library/Herald Examiner Collection


--Very sad.  :sadnod:

You don't have to worry about being deported.  They won't be able to get past that wall he's going to build.  It will keep as many in as it does out.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Magdalena on July 21, 2016, 10:45:03 PM
...Funny you mentioned 'The Wall'...  :grin:
US election: Artist builds wall around Trump's Hollywood star (http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-36854572)
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The artist, who emigrated to the US from the UK four years ago, says he's not a fan of Donald Trump, "In the US you'll interact with immigrants from all over the world and it's one of the things that makes the US so great. Donald Trump's policy proposals are a threat to all of the immigrants."
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Ecurb Noselrub on July 22, 2016, 01:09:18 AM
My main objection to the wall (other than the fact that it ain't gonna happen and it wouldn't work and it's stupid) is that it would destroy a lot of beautiful scenery.  I cannot imagine Big Bend National Park with a wall along the Rio Grande.  Total rape of nature.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Pasta Chick on July 22, 2016, 02:38:57 AM
My main objection to the wall (other than the fact that it ain't gonna happen and it wouldn't work and it's stupid) is that it would destroy a lot of beautiful scenery.  I cannot imagine Big Bend National Park with a wall along the Rio Grande.  Total rape of nature.

Considering one of the conservative platforms involves destroying national parks, I doubt they'll care.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Magdalena on July 22, 2016, 03:17:47 AM
My main objection to the wall (other than the fact that it ain't gonna happen and it wouldn't work and it's stupid) is that it would destroy a lot of beautiful scenery.  I cannot imagine Big Bend National Park with a wall along the Rio Grande.  Total rape of nature.
(other than the fact that it ain't gonna happen and it wouldn't work and it's stupid)
I'm so glad you cleared that up.  :shifty:
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on July 22, 2016, 05:34:43 AM
...Funny you mentioned 'The Wall'...  :grin:
US election: Artist builds wall around Trump's Hollywood star (http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-36854572)
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The artist, who emigrated to the US from the UK four years ago, says he's not a fan of Donald Trump, "In the US you'll interact with immigrants from all over the world and it's one of the things that makes the US so great. Donald Trump's policy proposals are a threat to all of the immigrants."

Why the fuck has Trump got a Holywood Stsr?
.
Has the "star" system, already crap, degenerated that far?

Do you get one with your cirnflakes niw?
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Magdalena on July 22, 2016, 07:33:44 AM

Why the fuck has Trump got a Holywood Stsr?


Trump got a star for his role as the Producer in NBC’s The Apprentice.
That poor star has been vandalized so many times. The wall around it was the latest one.
I'll cover the images because they're not pretty.  :-\
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Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Recusant on July 22, 2016, 07:42:40 AM
Laura Ingraham  :watching:

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Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on July 22, 2016, 09:19:02 AM

Why the fuck has Trump got a Holywood Stsr?


Trump got a star for his role as the Producer in NBC’s The Apprentice.
That poor star has been vandalized so many times. The wall around it was the latest one.
I'll cover the images because they're not pretty.  :-\
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The whole "star" system stinks IMHO.

The dog's opinion was quite accurate!
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on July 22, 2016, 09:32:47 AM
Laura Ingraham  :watching:

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While I would seriously question her intelligence to say that a right arm wave is automatically a sign of Nazi sympathy is a bit stupid IMHO.

Perhaps a right arm held rigidly straight at about 45O, hand open and held in that manner for at least five seconds approximates a Nazi salute. But to say that automatically makes the person a Nazi indicates there are hundreds of Nazis of every political colour in public life.

More media hype, more reasons to treat most of the papers and news stations with contempt.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Tank on July 22, 2016, 05:31:41 PM
What are the odds Trump gets bumped off before November? America has a lot of guns and a lot of nutters.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on July 22, 2016, 05:33:42 PM
What are the odds Trump gets bumped off before November? America has a lot of guns and a lot of nutters.

Betcha most of the nutters are on his side!

Unless a really militant psycho hippie gets him!
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: joeactor on July 22, 2016, 05:44:43 PM
What are the odds Trump gets bumped off before November? America has a lot of guns and a lot of nutters.

It's bound to happen:
Psychiatric hospitals filling up with time travelers sent back to kill Donald Trump (http://newsthump.com/2016/03/03/psychiatric-hospitals-filling-up-with-time-travellers-sent-back-to-kill-donald-trump/)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Icarus on July 22, 2016, 11:08:48 PM
^ I think that to be some sort of sick humor. 
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Magdalena on July 22, 2016, 11:33:47 PM
What are the odds Trump gets bumped off before November? America has a lot of guns and a lot of nutters.

Betcha most of the nutters are on his side!

Unless a really militant psycho hippie gets him!
:smileshake:
Only if you're this type of hippie:
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Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: joeactor on July 23, 2016, 02:41:40 PM
Kasich has a new ad out (yes, you read right!)

Worth a look:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/11/24/the-ad-in-which-john-kasichs-campaign-seems-to-compare-donald-trump-to-hitler/ (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/11/24/the-ad-in-which-john-kasichs-campaign-seems-to-compare-donald-trump-to-hitler/)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on July 23, 2016, 03:27:27 PM
I am constantly surprised that there are not more people drawing parallels between Trump's "ideology" and that of the Nazis.

But then, it being America, global home of litigation and the Trump's propensity to use that path . . .

One has to be very careful.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Pasta Chick on July 23, 2016, 03:57:42 PM
I am constantly surprised that there are not more people drawing parallels between Trump's "ideology" and that of the Nazis.

But then, it being America, global home of litigation and the Trump's propensity to use that path . . .

One has to be very careful.

It bothers me, again, because of the extreme hypocrisy (and complete ignorance of history).

It would be one thing if it were just ignorance. But no. We've had actual groups and movements making shit up about the Third Reich to "prove" Obama is just like Hilter. Now this asshole is actually doing shit that Hitler did and whoa, isn't he just the greatest!
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Pasta Chick on July 23, 2016, 04:03:00 PM
Well we're at it: Trump Promises Paul Ryan That He'll Sound Slightly Less Like Hitler (http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/trump-promises-paul-ryan-that-hell-sound-slightly-less-like-hitler)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on July 23, 2016, 04:23:52 PM
I am constantly surprised that there are not more people drawing parallels between Trump's "ideology" and that of the Nazis.

But then, it being America, global home of litigation and the Trump's propensity to use that path . . .

One has to be very careful.

It bothers me, again, because of the extreme hypocrisy (and complete ignorance of history).

It would be one thing if it were just ignorance. But no. We've had actual groups and movements making shit up about the Third Reich to "prove" Obama is just like Hilter. Now this asshole is actually doing shit that Hitler did and whoa, isn't he just the greatest!
Watch videos of Hitler's rousing speeches. Then watch Trump's. Oh shit!

Let's just hope Trump's rhetoric is just that, that the cold light of responsibility will dawn on him if he does make office!

Those in power and the unwashed masses do not learn from history. It is the rational middle strata that is able to, but wields little power.

Later: Oops, should have read next post first :redface:!

Still later: OK, only half a Hitler then. The man is certifiable.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Recusant on July 23, 2016, 05:56:33 PM
That New Yorker thing was satire. Trump did meet with Ryan, but the things in that story that they supposedly said are fiction. Trump did attempt to soften the negative reaction to of some of his rhetoric by later saying, "It was only a suggestion" though.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on July 23, 2016, 06:28:39 PM
That New Yorker thing was satire. Trump did meet with Ryan, but the things in that story that they supposedly said are fiction. Trump did attempt to soften the negative reaction to of some of his rhetoric by later saying, "It was only a suggestion" though.

Ah!

They made it too realistic I think, anything could happen around the Trump, that did not seem out of the box to me!
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on July 24, 2016, 07:42:05 PM
Further on the fascist theme (https://www.reddit.com/r/EnoughTrumpSpam/comments/4teoxl/a_final_response_to_the_tell_me_why_trump_is_a/)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Sandra Craft on July 25, 2016, 02:47:37 AM
One of my favorite Xtian bloggers posted this:  25 Reasons why this Christian is proudly #neverTrump (http://johnpavlovitz.com/2016/07/21/25-reasons-why-this-christian-is-proudly-nevertrump/)

The only one I have a quibble with is #8, that anyone who claims to be Xtian should at least slightly resemble Jesus.  I don't think it's possible for anyone to psychologically resemble anyone else, we're all too individual for that.  But I do think anyone who claims to be Xtian should at least give some evidence in his behavior of following Christ's teachings.  But perhaps this is what Pavlovitz meant and I'm just being a nit-picky atheist.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on July 25, 2016, 08:23:17 AM
One of my favorite Xtian bloggers posted this:  25 Reasons why this Christian is proudly #neverTrump (http://johnpavlovitz.com/2016/07/21/25-reasons-why-this-christian-is-proudly-nevertrump/)

The only one I have a quibble with is #8, that anyone who claims to be Xtian should at least slightly resemble Jesus.  I don't think it's possible for anyone to psychologically resemble anyone else, we're all too individual for that.  But I do think anyone who claims to be Xtian should at least give some evidence in his behavior of following Christ's teachings.  But perhaps this is what Pavlovitz meant and I'm just being a nit-picky atheist.

Sounds like a sensible human!

Did he mean "resemble" in that deep a way I wonder, how slight is "slightly"? Perhaps even a real humanist, ignoring any supernatural stuff, might qualify - "practicing" humanists are concerned about the state of humanity (and the environment) at all levels and in all areas.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Ecurb Noselrub on July 25, 2016, 01:20:24 PM
Anyone who shows love to others in some way resembles the Jesus presented in the NT.  Non-Christians can do that as well as Christians.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on July 25, 2016, 01:45:15 PM
Anyone who shows love to others in some way resembles the Jesus presented in the NT.  Non-Christians can do that as well as Christians.
Yup!
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Tom62 on July 27, 2016, 06:52:11 PM
This 15 year old video clip fits Trump and the RNC platform pretty well

Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on July 27, 2016, 07:10:54 PM
This 15 year old video clip fits Trump and the RNC platform pretty well

Somehow things don't change much . . .
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on July 28, 2016, 06:05:08 PM
 :rofl: (https://www.minds.com/blog/view/554721997607673856)

(Bear with it, site takes ages to load, might be busy)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Recusant on July 28, 2016, 07:34:05 PM
Hmm, the Daily Currant (http://dailycurrant.com/2014/12/12/native-american-council-offers-amnesty-to-220-million-undocumented-whites/) version is pretty slow loading too.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: joeactor on July 28, 2016, 08:41:14 PM
The Daily Show with Trevor Noah: "How is this even a contest?"
http://www.cc.com/video-clips/z66fvp/the-daily-show-with-trevor-noah-hillary-clinton-vs--donald-trump--how-is-this-even-a-contest- (http://www.cc.com/video-clips/z66fvp/the-daily-show-with-trevor-noah-hillary-clinton-vs--donald-trump--how-is-this-even-a-contest-)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on July 28, 2016, 08:56:03 PM
Oh, dear, video won't show on Android 4.4.2
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Recusant on July 28, 2016, 09:04:12 PM
I don't think Comedy Central videos will play in the UK at all without some jiggering. I can offer advice regarding that in a PM if you wish.

It's a contest because the Republican party (and Republican members of Congress, in the guise of "official investigations") has been working very hard for the past few years to degrade Clinton's image. (I'll just ignore the similar efforts that go back decades.) Three years ago Clinton had a very respectable (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2013/01/23/record-high-for-hillary-clinton-as-she-faces-little-regarded-congress/) approval rating. The Republicans have been tireless in their efforts to smear her, and have had some success.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on July 28, 2016, 09:16:53 PM
I don't think Comedy Central videos will play in the UK at all without some jiggering. I can offer advice regarding that in a PM if you wish.
Yes, please.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Icarus on July 30, 2016, 01:00:11 AM
Trevor Noah is a hoot. Loved it .
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on July 30, 2016, 08:45:26 AM
 Seems the GOP national security people are not happy with the Trump. (http://uk.businessinsider.com/republican-national-security-trump-letter-2016-3?r=US&IR=T)

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Republican national-security leaders trash Donald Trump in joint letter

Perhaps they have caught a (politically) fatal dose of pragmatism?
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: joeactor on July 30, 2016, 02:52:42 PM
Looks like the Houston Chronicle (normally a republican paper) endorses Hillary:
http://www.chron.com/opinion/recommendations/article/For-Hillary-Clinton-8650345.php (http://www.chron.com/opinion/recommendations/article/For-Hillary-Clinton-8650345.php)

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Any one of Trump's less-than-sterling qualities - his erratic temperament, his dodgy business practices, his racism, his Putin-like strongman inclinations and faux-populist demagoguery, his contempt for the rule of law, his ignorance - is enough to be disqualifying. His convention-speech comment, "I alone can fix it," should make every American shudder. He is, we believe, a danger to the Republic.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on July 30, 2016, 03:06:20 PM
Good to know that some Americans, in influencial positions, put the future of their nation before ideology, politics, prejudice, tradition and all the other crap that gets in the way of the future!

Wish sone of ours would do the same, but we are only a power pimple compared to Americ's bulge.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Sandra Craft on July 30, 2016, 09:35:01 PM
And then there's this: A Republican intellectual explains why the Republican Party is going to die (http://www.vox.com/2016/7/25/12256510/republican-party-trump-avik-roy).  At least some Repubs realize they took a seriously wrong turn years ago and Trump is the natural result of it.

There's also an interesting video at the end of the article on the evolution of the Republican Party.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on July 30, 2016, 10:23:46 PM
PRAGMATISM RULES

ok?
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Icarus on July 31, 2016, 06:57:03 AM
Thank you books for that reference. That makes perfect sense to those of us who are not comatose.

G it would be pleasing to believe that pragmatism rules. It does not seem to be in sufficient force here in the colonies.

The grim fact is that there are a disappointingly large number of people who are not paying attention, that it is more than possible that Trump will win the election.  I am sad that my people are so easily beguiled, that they do not bother to read or to examine both sides of an equation, who cannot be persuaded to separate propaganda from reality, and that conspiracy theorists are too often given credibility, climate change is a hoax, god will protect us if we pray enough, ...............woe will be to a nation of perfectly good and honorable citizens who choose to ignore the facts. 



Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on July 31, 2016, 07:13:36 PM
Yet Trump continues to dig his own hole deeper in the eyes of any rational,person. (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/donald-trump-hits-back-muslim-american-war-hero-parents-article-1.2732195)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on July 31, 2016, 08:01:53 PM
This may have been seen here already

Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Recusant on August 03, 2016, 05:00:30 PM
Evangelists who've reconciled themselves to supporting "Il Duce" of the Republican party are now trying to convince others, with some rather twisted reasoning. "To The 'Never Trumper'- A Biblical Case For Trump" (https://lastchanceamerica.wordpress.com/2016/07/27/to-the-never-trumper-a-biblical-case-for-trump/)

I'm not suggesting you read that drivel unless you enjoy such things, just pointing out a particular trend in the world of true believers. Many of them are so desperate to push their agenda that they are willing to trust what a habitual liar says, because at least some of it seems like it agrees with them. A small sample—note the personalities she mentions as trustworthy. The mendacious bigot James Dobson, who has come out in support of Trump (http://drjamesdobson.org/news/dr-james-dobson-on-trumps-christian-faith), and Kirk Cameron, the dingbat Creationist actor who has done the same (http://www.onenewsnow.com/politics-govt/2016/07/08/kirk-camerons-take-on-trump).

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I am simply stating that in this specific office, as President, he has gone to great lengths to demonstrate that he will protect and champion the rights of the American evangelical if he were to be elected, even if he does not personally embrace those values. I would think that his promise to appoint a conservative Supreme Court Justice should “Trump” (excuse the pun), our other hesitations. He has even organized a “faith advisory committee” comprised of some of the most respected Christian leaders in America. As a side note, I am appalled at the way the Body has treated the members of this committee and other evangelical heavy hitters who have endorsed Trump. We are willing to let Dr. Dobson dictate the way we raise our children, yet the instant he speaks out on a political issue, we mock him and call him a coward? We make Kirk Cameron our Hollywood hero, pay big bucks to go see his films, and then call him a sell out when he makes a comment about where we should place our vote? Maybe we should let our ruffled egos settle down for a moment and consider that we would willingly adhere to the wisdom of these men on any other issue. Even if you disagree with their political choice, please have the decency to treat them with the respect that their years of faithful service to the Kingdom have warranted.

Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on August 03, 2016, 05:11:56 PM
Religion twists the best of minds.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Sandra Craft on August 03, 2016, 06:27:18 PM
And in other news, a man with blog called GOPlifer: because leaving isn't exacly an option, has now left the Republican Party:  resignation letter (https://goplifer.com/2016/07/22/resignation-letter/)

It's fairly long, but the last paragraph sums it up well: 
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I will not contribute my name, my work, or my character to an utterly indefensible cause. No sensible adult demands moral purity from a political party, but conscience is meaningless without constraints. A party willing to lend its collective capital to Donald Trump has entered a compromise beyond any credible threshold of legitimacy. There is no redemption in being one of the “good Nazis.”

I hereby resign my position as a York Township Republican committeeman. My thirty-year tenure as a Republican is over.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Davin on August 03, 2016, 08:45:46 PM
I hope many more follow suit.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Ecurb Noselrub on August 04, 2016, 12:19:52 AM
I repeat my prediction - Trump won't win.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Sandra Craft on August 04, 2016, 03:32:52 AM
Yet Trump continues to dig his own hole deeper in the eyes of any rational,person. (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/donald-trump-hits-back-muslim-american-war-hero-parents-article-1.2732195)

Rationality is not a chief component of Trump's die-hard supporters.  So many times Trump has said or done something that made the rest of us say "this will surely end his candidacy" only to have his supporters just cheer it on.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on August 04, 2016, 06:23:43 AM
Be afraid, be very afraid. (https://m.facebook.com/topic/Joe-Scarborough/105718659462681?source=share&tr=1470415198)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on August 04, 2016, 06:31:51 AM
And a considered response. (https://storify.com/DemFromCT/john-noonan-on-nuclear-deterrence-and-donald-trump)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: joeactor on August 04, 2016, 02:14:41 PM
Be afraid, be very afraid. (https://m.facebook.com/topic/Joe-Scarborough/105718659462681?source=share&tr=1470415198)

Sure... he's a sane choice.

(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.depo.ua%2Fstatic%2Ffiles%2Fgallery_uploads%2Fimages%2Fabombtrump.jpg&hash=b30798ea2d83a031c6a947fa2e43c88f58c6a24a)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Recusant on August 04, 2016, 06:28:57 PM
Happy Atheist apologized to me but I will not accept their apology. I will be suing them for a lot of money. (http://time.com/3966291/donald-trump-insult-generator/)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: joeactor on August 04, 2016, 08:48:52 PM
Happy Atheist apologized to me but I will not accept their apology. I will be suing them for a lot of money. (http://time.com/3966291/donald-trump-insult-generator/)

Oh no!
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: xSilverPhinx on August 04, 2016, 09:15:54 PM
Quote
Donald J. Trump
@TrumpInsulter
Losers such as Donald Trump use me for publicity for themselves. They are strictly third rate.
5:13 PM - 4 AUG 2016
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Magdalena on August 04, 2016, 11:35:13 PM
Quote
Donald J. Trump
@TrumpInsulter
Losers such as Donald Trump use me for publicity for themselves. They are strictly third rate.
5:13 PM - 4 AUG 2016
Quote
Goofball atheist Mags never had a chance.
3:31 PM - 4 AUG 2016
:snicker:
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: xSilverPhinx on August 04, 2016, 11:38:34 PM
"Goofball atheist" :lol:
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Magdalena on August 04, 2016, 11:52:52 PM
"Goofball atheist" :lol:
I know!  ;D
I just entered, Mags, and it gave me "Goofball atheist Mags."
How did they know? It's so accurate.  ;D
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Davin on August 05, 2016, 02:39:50 PM
"Goofball atheist" :lol:
I know!  ;D
I just entered, Mags, and it gave me "Goofball atheist Mags."
How did they know? It's so accurate.  ;D
Well, Trump just got his mitts on the top secret briefings, which means that you're being watched.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Magdalena on August 05, 2016, 06:55:38 PM
"Goofball atheist" :lol:
I know!  ;D
I just entered, Mags, and it gave me "Goofball atheist Mags."
How did they know? It's so accurate.  ;D
Well, Trump just got his mitts on the top secret briefings, which means that you're being watched.
(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F3.bp.blogspot.com%2F-rjxvN9PduNU%2FUlh2uXXaGyI%2FAAAAAAAABCs%2FH6ZIQHHM7F8%2Fs1600%2Fpost-14325-Keanu-Reeves-whoa-gif-JNOr.gif&hash=07785d0d6c796d91446d083cf07aed8270843708)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: joeactor on August 05, 2016, 07:15:54 PM
Recent news:

The Harvard Republican Club broke a 128 year tradition, and is not supporting the Republican nominee:
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In every presidential election since 1888, the members and Executive Board of the Harvard Republican Club have gathered to discuss, debate, and eventually endorse the standard-bearer of our party. But for the first time in 128 years, we, the oldest College Republicans chapter in the nation, will not be endorsing the Republican nominee.
Donald Trump holds views that are antithetical to our values not only as Republicans, but as Americans. The rhetoric he espouses –from racist slander to misogynistic taunts– is not consistent with our conservative principles, and his repeated mocking of the disabled and belittling of the sacrifices made by prisoners of war, Gold Star families, and Purple Heart recipients is not only bad politics, but absurdly cruel.

Full post here:
https://www.facebook.com/HarvardGOP/posts/1190758900944693 (https://www.facebook.com/HarvardGOP/posts/1190758900944693)


... and a conservative writer for the WSJ penned this:
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This is what became obvious, probably fatally so: Mr. Trump is not going to get serious about running for president. He does not have a second act, there are no hidden depths, there will be no “pivot.” It is not that he is willful or stubborn, though he may be, it’s that he doesn’t have the skill set needed now—discretion, carefulness, generosity, judgment. There’s a clueless quality about him. It’s not that he doesn’t get advice; it’s that he can’t hear advice, can’t process it or turn it into action.

full article:
http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-week-they-decided-he-was-crazy-1470354031 (http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-week-they-decided-he-was-crazy-1470354031)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on August 05, 2016, 08:33:03 PM
Well, one cannot get a more comprehensive description of the True Trump than those methinks.

It would seem that Trump has decided to turn the United States election into one big reality show with himself as the star clown. Later: or is he actually part of Hillary's team?

Whether he wins or loses one gets the feeling that American politics are never going to be the same again. Might it be that The American Dream that anyone can run for president will be seen as the nightmare it has become? It will be sad to most Americans but perhaps future contenders will have to actually demonstrate that they are qualified before being allowed to even enter their name. That only those with prior party endorsement will be allowed to campaign under the party name. An endorsement thst can be withdrawn at any point.

The Republucans have made total idiots of themselves and the Democrats are running a very close second place.


Later: Hmm, just realised that would not stop the likes of Trump starting their own party . . .

Even later: if America does not seriously modify their political system after this farce then . . . well is there any hope for the United States. How long 'til Texit?
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Essie Mae on August 05, 2016, 09:12:49 PM
I repeat my prediction - Trump won't win.

and I, along with millions more didn't think in my wildest nightmare, that we'd leave the EU. I agree with Gloucester; be afraid ....... and get your young ones galvanised.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on August 06, 2016, 04:45:12 AM
(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi778.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fyy67%2FDaveGlos%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fplease_no_more_bullshit___syed_shahzeb_ali.jpeg&hash=38f96a443b53f0a3111a65f85383a1180e31be8c) (http://s778.photobucket.com/user/DaveGlos/media/Mobile%20Uploads/please_no_more_bullshit___syed_shahzeb_ali.jpeg.html)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: joeactor on August 08, 2016, 09:17:11 PM
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Dozens of the nation’s most senior Republican national security officials, many of them former top aides or cabinet members for President George W. Bush, have signed a letter saying they will not vote for Mr. Trump, the Republican nominee.

Full letter below:
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/08/08/us/politics/national-security-letter-trump.html (http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/08/08/us/politics/national-security-letter-trump.html)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Essie Mae on August 08, 2016, 10:28:06 PM
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Dozens of the nation’s most senior Republican national security officials, many of them former top aides or cabinet members for President George W. Bush, have signed a letter saying they will not vote for Mr. Trump, the Republican nominee.

Full letter below:
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/08/08/us/politics/national-security-letter-trump.html (http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/08/08/us/politics/national-security-letter-trump.html)

Sobering. Gotta feel sorry for Murrikins; voters have been pushed out of the election process; nowhere to go.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on August 12, 2016, 04:02:43 PM
Just reading a sci-fi story set in the, sort of, present day where the American security services do not trust the president.

Wonder where the author got that idea?
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Icarus on August 13, 2016, 05:26:10 AM
The latest is that the Donald claims that ISIS was created by Obama.  More of the latest is that some of his followers actually believe that he has revealed a deep dark secret conspiracy that would  install Sharia law in America. 

Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on August 13, 2016, 08:08:33 AM
The latest is that the Donald claims that ISIS was created by Obama.  More of the latest is that some of his followers actually believe that he has revealed a deep dark secret conspiracy that would  install Sharia law in America.
Well, he's got an Arabic name so he must be a sympathiser, even if he is a dedicated christian. If he had a good American name like Eisehower, Roosevelt, van Buren or something . . .
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Firebird on August 13, 2016, 04:46:06 PM
The latest is that the Donald claims that ISIS was created by Obama.  More of the latest is that some of his followers actually believe that he has revealed a deep dark secret conspiracy that would  install Sharia law in America.
Well, he's got an Arabic name so he must be a sympathiser, even if he is a dedicated christian. If he had a good American name like Eisehower, Roosevelt, van Buren or something . . .

...or if he was white
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Tom62 on August 13, 2016, 07:25:25 PM
The latest is that the Donald claims that ISIS was created by Obama.  More of the latest is that some of his followers actually believe that he has revealed a deep dark secret conspiracy that would  install Sharia law in America.

ISIS managed to grow, because the USA left a power vacuum behind after Bush II escapades ("crusade") in the Middle East. Obama didn't want to get much involved in this and, instead of sending more troops to eliminate Islamic threads, he started to bring in weapons and sponsor local rebels (like in Libya and Syria). The rebel troops contained mostly mercenaries, who would fight for anyone who pays better. ISIS offered the Syrian troops more money, so they joined ISIS (with their American weapons) in mass. So, in sense, Trump is right by blaming Obama. But he should blame the war criminals GW Bush, Dick Chaney and Tony Blair.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Magdalena on August 14, 2016, 02:08:04 AM
The latest is that the Donald claims that ISIS was created by Obama.  More of the latest is that some of his followers actually believe that he has revealed a deep dark secret conspiracy that would  install Sharia law in America.

Last night I Googled, Sharia law Images, and I'm very sorry I did.  :(
I have one question, why?  :headshake:
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Sandra Craft on August 14, 2016, 02:22:15 AM
The latest is that the Donald claims that ISIS was created by Obama.  More of the latest is that some of his followers actually believe that he has revealed a deep dark secret conspiracy that would  install Sharia law in America.

Last night I Googled, Sharia law Images, and I'm very sorry I did.  :(
I have one question, why?  :headshake:

I honestly don't understand the concern about Sharia law replacing secular law in America.  As long as we have separation of church and state, how would that even be possible?  We'd not only have to become a theocracy first, but an Islamic theocracy and I certainly don't see that happening, least of all any time soon.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Magdalena on August 14, 2016, 02:36:02 AM
The latest is that the Donald claims that ISIS was created by Obama.  More of the latest is that some of his followers actually believe that he has revealed a deep dark secret conspiracy that would  install Sharia law in America.

Last night I Googled, Sharia law Images, and I'm very sorry I did.  :(
I have one question, why?  :headshake:

I honestly don't understand the concern about Sharia law replacing secular law in America.  As long as we have separation of church and state, how would that even be possible?  We'd not only have to become a theocracy first, but an Islamic theocracy and I certainly don't see that happening, least of all any time soon.
:secrets1: My, "why?" question was more about..."Why are they OK with chopping off people's body parts?"  :shifty:
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Essie Mae on August 14, 2016, 07:53:58 AM


It's a bloody (pun entirely intended) good way of controlling those uppity people who want to do their own thing.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on August 14, 2016, 08:09:50 AM


It's a bloody (pun entirely intended) good way of controlling those uppity people who want to do their own thing.
It also reduces theft if it means losing a hand for the first offence. But it is a bloody barbaric way of punishing even minor crime.

It can also means that the victim of an accident or disease suffers from the automatic assumption thst they were found guilty of theft to strangers.

Like the origin of the religion it supports it is the product of an age whose values and ignorance should be in the rubbish bin of history.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Guardian85 on August 14, 2016, 01:57:29 PM


It's a bloody (pun entirely intended) good way of controlling those uppity people who want to do their own thing.
It also reduces theft if it means losing a hand for the first offence. But it is a bloody barbaric way of punishing even minor crime.

It can also means that the victim of an accident or disease suffers from the automatic assumption thst they were found guilty of theft to strangers.

Like the origin of the religion it supports it is the product of an age whose values and ignorance should be in the rubbish bin of history.
I can imagine it being a very effective deterrence to recidivism among convicted pick-pockets, though.

Still.... no. Just no.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Firebird on August 14, 2016, 04:26:33 PM

I honestly don't understand the concern about Sharia law replacing secular law in America.  As long as we have separation of church and state, how would that even be possible?  We'd not only have to become a theocracy first, but an Islamic theocracy and I certainly don't see that happening, least of all any time soon.

Most of it's just your usual hysteria. There were some fears that Canada was going to allow certain family disputes to be arbitrated via Sharia a few years back,  so that might have fed the hysteria too. See  this article (https://www.theguardian.com/news/blog/2008/feb/08/sharialawincanadaalmost) for example. There is also an  Islamic Sharia Council Court in the UK (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Sharia_Council), though it appears it doesn't have actual jurisdiction. Not clear on that from the article though. Have to admit I'd be concerned if anything like that ever did come to the US, as I would with any other type of religious court.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on August 14, 2016, 04:52:35 PM

I honestly don't understand the concern about Sharia law replacing secular law in America.  As long as we have separation of church and state, how would that even be possible?  We'd not only have to become a theocracy first, but an Islamic theocracy and I certainly don't see that happening, least of all any time soon.

Most of it's just your usual hysteria. There were some fears that Canada was going to allow certain family disputes to be arbitrated via Sharia a few years back,  so that might have fed the hysteria too. See  this article (https://www.theguardian.com/news/blog/2008/feb/08/sharialawincanadaalmost) for example. There is also an  Islamic Sharia Council Court in the UK (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Sharia_Council), though it appears it doesn't have actual jurisdiction. Not clear on that from the article though. Have to admit I'd be concerned if anything like that ever did come to the US, as I would with any other type of religious court.
This (https://fullfact.org/law/uks-sharia-courts/) may be of interest.

Sharia has no more standing in the UK than the several arbitration "courts" that anyone can apply to and that includes the Jewish Beth Din - all of them are subservient to secular legislation. Certain rules under Sharia and Beth Din might be recognised by civil courts.

However, if the law says, "No" then no it is. If I read things right any British citizen, even dual passport holders, who breaks British law in a foreign country is liable to be charged on return to the UK.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Sandra Craft on August 14, 2016, 06:52:46 PM

Sharia has no more standing in the UK than the several arbitration "courts" that anyone can apply to and that includes the Jewish Beth Din - all of them are subservient to secular legislation. Certain rules under Sharia and Beth Din might be recognised by civil courts.

However, if the law says, "No" then no it is.

That's been my understanding too.  A lot of religions have "courts" to deal with purely religious matters, but if a ruling in a religious court conflicts with any secular civil/criminal laws then secular laws take precedence.

Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Sandra Craft on August 14, 2016, 07:03:53 PM

I honestly don't understand the concern about Sharia law replacing secular law in America.  As long as we have separation of church and state, how would that even be possible?  We'd not only have to become a theocracy first, but an Islamic theocracy and I certainly don't see that happening, least of all any time soon.

Most of it's just your usual hysteria. There were some fears that Canada was going to allow certain family disputes to be arbitrated via Sharia a few years back,  so that might have fed the hysteria too. See  this article (https://www.theguardian.com/news/blog/2008/feb/08/sharialawincanadaalmost) for example. There is also an  Islamic Sharia Council Court in the UK (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Sharia_Council), though it appears it doesn't have actual jurisdiction. Not clear on that from the article though. Have to admit I'd be concerned if anything like that ever did come to the US, as I would with any other type of religious court.

It's amazing how easily people can be whipped up by nonsense.  It's like those people screaming about Obama, or next Clinton, removing the 2nd amendment without realizing that changing the Constitution is not one of those "stroke of the pen" things a President can do.

As for religious courts arbitrating over divorce, custody and inheritance disputes, I have no problem with that since any excesses would be controlled by the secular laws (as I understand it, a religious court could allow a man to divorce his dependent wife and give her no alimony, but secular law would not allow him to divorce her and sell her into slavery, even if the religious court said OK).

Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on August 14, 2016, 07:43:48 PM
Unfortunately fir humanity, but to the advantage of politicians, religionistas and certain kinds of media, the larger part of any population does not think with its head. If it thinks at all.

I love humanity but, en masse, it is stupid and easily led. Group think, mob violence etc are powerful forces and iinfectious for those who are easily influenced hy external stimuli.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Tom62 on August 14, 2016, 08:48:51 PM
Unfortunately fir humanity, but to the advantage of politicians, religionistas and certain kinds of media, the larger part of any population does not think with its head. If it thinks at all.

I love humanity but, en masse, it is stupid and easily led. Group think, mob violence etc are powerful forces and iinfectious for those who are easily influenced hy external stimuli.

Doesn't that imply that democracy is a bad idea or that we should give voting rights only to a selected group of (intelligent) people?
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on August 14, 2016, 09:34:30 PM
Unfortunately fir humanity, but to the advantage of politicians, religionistas and certain kinds of media, the larger part of any population does not think with its head. If it thinks at all.

I love humanity but, en masse, it is stupid and easily led. Group think, mob violence etc are powerful forces and iinfectious for those who are easily influenced hy external stimuli.

Doesn't that imply that democracy is a bad idea or that we should give voting rights only to a selected group of (intelligent) people?
Certainly implies that democracy is a very inefficient and dodgy form of government - open to all kinds of interpretation and abuse, at one end a form of mob rule, at the other an open door for covert elite rule via a single party/group making most of the rules and decisions by dint of having the most bums, asses if in America, on seats.

Whatever the system some form of elite rule is inevitable.

The person who thinks the party he/she supports can do no wrong does not deserve the vote IMHO. They are not thinking about it. It was encouraging to hear how many they found to interview in America who indicated they were voting in an way based on intelligence rather than traditional party loyalty. Something similar is happening here. But it is a slow process triggered by the kind of politico-economic turmoil we don't need just now. Catastrophe theory rules, edges and cusps are dicey places - and we have an over-sufficiency right now. Just hold those bloody Australian butterflies still! Or, perhaps, the Chinese ones.

Even more inefficient are parliaments of national unity - if they become talking shops or arenas for personal showboating especially. But, democratically,  perhaps more attractive.

By "mob", in my last post, I was thinking of the unthinking herd of follow-the-leader types in specific circumstances. Easily wound up by rhetoric, easily led into action they might regret when they reflect. If they reflect. 1930s Germany was a democracy, up to a point where Hitler got rid of the opposition. But he rode in on a wave of popular support.

The only two really efficient forns io government are the impossible ones, anarchy and benign dictatorship (where the dictator only shoots the overly ambitious members of his staff and keeps the accounts straight.)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: joeactor on August 15, 2016, 02:21:34 PM
Since my blog post this week has some Donald on it, here's my take on the election thus far:
http://www.joesdump.com/2016/08/15/political-pause/ (http://www.joesdump.com/2016/08/15/political-pause/)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on August 15, 2016, 02:39:22 PM
Since my blog post this week has some Donald on it, here's my take on the election thus far:
http://www.joesdump.com/2016/08/15/political-pause/ (http://www.joesdump.com/2016/08/15/political-pause/)
I don't get a vote but solidly behind your reasoning, Joe.

Since this could have global effects the rest of the eorld is sitting uo and taking notice.

we almost had five parties here, the Tory Inners and Outers, the Centrist and Socialist Labourites and the Liberals. But if we fuck it up, and there is a good chance of that, the rest of the world will mostly shrug and look elsewhere.

If America fucks it up . . . Do I take Russian or Chinese lessons?
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: joeactor on August 15, 2016, 02:56:09 PM
Since my blog post this week has some Donald on it, here's my take on the election thus far:
http://www.joesdump.com/2016/08/15/political-pause/ (http://www.joesdump.com/2016/08/15/political-pause/)
I don't get a vote but solidly behind your reasoning, Joe.

Since this could have global effects the rest of the eorld is sitting uo and taking notice.

we almost had five parties here, the Tory Inners and Outers, the Centrist and Socialist Labourites and the Liberals. But if we fuck it up, and there is a good chance of that, the rest of the world will mostly shrug and look elsewhere.

If America fucks it up . . . Do I take Russian or Chinese lessons?

I think we're headed for South America...
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on August 15, 2016, 03:12:05 PM
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I think we're headed for South America...
Blimey, but what real choice do you have there. Between murders, drugs, hatred of the US, failed economies, dreadful poverty, lack of basic stuff . . .
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: joeactor on August 15, 2016, 04:31:33 PM
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I think we're headed for South America...
Blimey, but what real choice do you have there. Between murders, drugs, hatred of the US, failed economies, dreadful poverty, lack of basic stuff . . .

Mexico actually has some great choices, believe it or not. Seems like there's a fair number of US citizens with 2nd homes there (or moving).
Not seriously looking yet. I'm sure there are lots of other options (Japan, Spain, etc.)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Magdalena on August 15, 2016, 04:40:41 PM
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I think we're headed for South America...
Blimey, but what real choice do you have there. Between murders, drugs, hatred of the US, failed economies, dreadful poverty, lack of basic stuff . . .

Mexico actually has some great choices, believe it or not. Seems like there's a fair number of US citizens with 2nd homes there (or moving).
Not seriously looking yet. I'm sure there are lots of other options (Japan, Spain, etc.)
:secrets1: Mexico is in North America.
(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nature-education.org%2Fcart%2Fus-north-south-america.jpg&hash=c0f1c23a3aab4212df4530f5b9c29367ee9e882a)
North America
Central America
South America

These are your choices of South American Countries:  :-\
(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.worldatlas.com%2Fimg%2Fareamap%2Fcontinent%2Fsouth_america_map.gif&hash=87c5fd1934cebc951513d58b2571d18d726e919d)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: joeactor on August 15, 2016, 04:47:53 PM
^^^ You are correct, sir!

Good ol' US of A World Knowledge at work!
(US vs them)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Firebird on August 15, 2016, 06:26:30 PM
Trump is in a free fall in the polls, thankfully, but there's still almost 3 months left. Plenty of time for some massive paradigm shift that can affect the race. Considering how paranoid and irrational this country can be, if there's some kind of massive terrorist attack or two, I could easily see Trump make a comeback. Holding my breath until then.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Sandra Craft on August 15, 2016, 08:24:49 PM
Unfortunately fir humanity, but to the advantage of politicians, religionistas and certain kinds of media, the larger part of any population does not think with its head. If it thinks at all.

I love humanity but, en masse, it is stupid and easily led. Group think, mob violence etc are powerful forces and iinfectious for those who are easily influenced hy external stimuli.

Doesn't that imply that democracy is a bad idea or that we should give voting rights only to a selected group of (intelligent) people?

I think this is why we still have the electoral college.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Pasta Chick on August 16, 2016, 06:01:40 PM
In regard to recent Trump comments...

The Night That Obama and Hilary Founded Isis (http://nymag.com/thecut/2016/08/night-that-obama-and-hillary-founded-isis.html)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Icarus on August 16, 2016, 10:43:25 PM
That's a good one PC.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: joeactor on August 18, 2016, 10:47:49 PM
Statues of Donald Trump (nude) are popping up in various cities (NYC, SF, Cleveland, LA)

It's called "The Emperor Has No Balls" by the artist.

https://www.timeout.com/newyork/blog/someone-put-up-a-naked-statue-of-donald-trump-in-union-square-today-081816 (https://www.timeout.com/newyork/blog/someone-put-up-a-naked-statue-of-donald-trump-in-union-square-today-081816)

NSFW:
Spoiler: ShowHide
(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Flaist.com%2Fattachments%2Flaist_carman%2Femperor_has_no_balls_Annie.jpg&hash=2e3d45284a845ee7ebe12bdeeaca71fb11f39c37)

Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Icarus on August 19, 2016, 12:25:58 AM
OOOOH!! That is dirty pool, and  my sides are aching from unbridaled laughter. Do you think that Hillary had anything to do with that? She will be blamed for it no matter what.  The Donald statue has a teeny weenie to lend further credibility to Marco Rubio's celebrated postulate.

The joke is almost too much, but it does give some credence to the notion that when a rival group is too much maligned by the head honcho of the other party, there may be some serious and humiliating consequences.  Our first amendment is in full bloom.

The Donald's response is anxiously awaited.  ::)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: joeactor on August 19, 2016, 01:08:18 AM
OOOOH!! That is dirty pool, and  my sides are aching from unbridaled laughter. Do you think that Hillary had anything to do with that? She will be blamed for it no matter what.  The Donald statue has a teeny weenie to lend further credibility to Marco Rubio's celebrated postulate.

The joke is almost too much, but it does give some credence to the notion that when a rival group is too much maligned by the head honcho of the other party, there may be some serious and humiliating consequences.  Our first amendment is in full bloom.

The Donald's response is anxiously awaited.  ::)

It does go a bit far for a joke, but I believe that open mockery is a tool that should be used in extreme situations. Where are the jesters?
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on August 19, 2016, 07:18:35 AM
OOOOH!! That is dirty pool, and  my sides are aching from unbridaled laughter. Do you think that Hillary had anything to do with that? She will be blamed for it no matter what.  The Donald statue has a teeny weenie to lend further credibility to Marco Rubio's celebrated postulate.

The joke is almost too much, but it does give some credence to the notion that when a rival group is too much maligned by the head honcho of the other party, there may be some serious and humiliating consequences.  Our first amendment is in full bloom.

The Donald's response is anxiously awaited.  ::)

It does go a bit far for a joke, but I believe that open mockery is a tool that should be used in extreme situations. Where are the jesters?
It was the fools in old courts who had the ability to question authority. A fool had t8 be more intelligent and wiser than his master and be able to offer his advice in rhyme or riddle.

And he had to be tight every time - his life relied on it.

Now, being wiser than the Trump is a fairly easy task.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: xSilverPhinx on August 19, 2016, 09:57:06 PM
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I think we're headed for South America...
Blimey, but what real choice do you have there. Between murders, drugs, hatred of the US, failed economies, dreadful poverty, lack of basic stuff . . .

That's quite a picture you've painted of South America. :eyebrow:

We're half a continent, made up of many countries, each with their own characteristics. Not everyone is afflicted with those kinds of problems. Lack of basic stuff? Such as what? Failed economies? Brazil is the 8th economy in the world. And so on.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on August 19, 2016, 10:16:17 PM
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I think we're headed for South America...
Blimey, but what real choice do you have there. Between murders, drugs, hatred of the US, failed economies, dreadful poverty, lack of basic stuff . . .

That's quite a picture you've painted of South America. :eyebrow:

We're half a continent, made up of many countries, each with their own characteristics. Not everyone is afflicted with those kinds of problems. Lack of basic stuff? Such as what? Failed economies? Brazil is the 8th economy in the world. And so on.
True, xSP and appologise for splashing the brush wide.

But, surely you have to admit that Brazil still has its problems of violence and dysfunctional local economies. I also seem to remember that your country was even further up the economic ladder not so long ago, definitely the "B" in "BRICK". But one can blame global economics for some of that.

Anyway, don't come to Britland either, we are teetering on the edge of the pan!

And, fair does, barring the funding problems for the Paralympics, Brazil has made a better job of the games than most expected. Let's hope that there are some beneficial after effects.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Magdalena on August 19, 2016, 11:05:12 PM
 :secrets1: Gloucester, I told you people from all over the world came here, didn't I?

This just came to mind...
Someone should ask Trump if he still plans to erect a wall to "protect" North America. If he says, yes, then the wall will be between Mexico, Guatemala, and Belize.  :lol:

Oh, geography is such a wonderful thing.  :grin:
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Recusant on August 20, 2016, 02:40:06 AM
With Trump's latest choices for his campaign, it's clear that he's putting all his eggs in the angry white bigot/crypto-bigot basket.

"Alt Right Rejoices at Donald Trump’s Steve Bannon Hire" | The Daily Beast (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/08/17/alt-right-rejoices-at-trump-s-steve-bannon-hire.html)

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Donald Trump’s campaign is under new management—and his white nationalist fanboys love it.
The campaign’s new chief executive, Stephen Bannon, joins from Breitbart News—where he helped mainstream the ideas of white nationalists and resuscitate the reputations of anti-immigrant fear-mongers.

White nationalists today invest a lot of energy worrying about growing Hispanic and Muslim populations in the U.S. Turns out, Breitbart News spends a lot of time worrying about those things, too. And in Bannon, they see a media-friendly, ethno-nationalist fellow traveler.

“Latterly, Breitbart emerged as a nationalist site and done great stuff on immigration in particular,” VDARE.com editor Peter Brimelow told The Daily Beast.

VDare is a white supremacist site. It’s named after Virginia Dare, the first white child born to British colonists in North America. Brimelow said he and Bannon met briefly last month and exchanged pleasantries about each other’s work.

“It’s irritating because VDARE.com is not used to competition,” Brimelow added. “I presume that is due to Bannon, so his appointment is great news.”

Brimelow isn’t the only prominent white nationalist to praise the Bannon hire. Richard Spencer, who heads the white supremacist think tank National Policy Institute, said he was also pleased. Under Bannon’s leadership, Breitbart has given favorable coverage to the white supremacist Alt Right movement. And Spencer loves it.

[Continues . . . (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/08/17/alt-right-rejoices-at-trump-s-steve-bannon-hire.html)]
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Recusant on August 22, 2016, 11:37:35 PM
So, there was Tony Perkins' house getting damaged (http://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/index.php?topic=14633.0), but the disastrous weather did bring something good his way. Jesus looks after his own, or something.

"BUSTED: Trump’s $100K 'Donation' Went To Anti-Gay Hate Group, NOT Flood Victims" | Occupy Democrats (http://occupydemocrats.com/2016/08/22/busted-trumps-100k-donation-went-anti-gay-hate-group-not-flood-victims/)

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Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump has been working overtime to turn the devastating floods currently engulfing the state of Louisiana into an image rehabilitation opportunity, visiting the state against the wishes of Governor John Bel Edwards for photo-ops of him handing out supplies that he didn’t donate and making a sizable donation to relief funds after the state’s residents loudly called for him to do so.

Except it turns out that Trump did not donate $100,000 to an aid relief organization; instead he gave it to a church headed by Pastor Tony Perkins, the leader of a hate group of virulent anti-choice and anti-gay religious extremists known as the Family Research Council.

[Continues . . . (http://occupydemocrats.com/2016/08/22/busted-trumps-100k-donation-went-anti-gay-hate-group-not-flood-victims/)]
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Tank on August 23, 2016, 06:55:39 AM
How much is Hillary paying Trump?
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: joeactor on August 23, 2016, 07:48:29 PM
How much is Hillary paying Trump?

We won't know until after her second term...
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Icarus on August 24, 2016, 06:56:37 AM
VP Biden went to Latvia for a joint meeting with the three Baltic states. The purpose was to assure the heads of those states that Trumps remarks about abandoning some of the NATO allies was bullshit.

We have to fly our VP half way around the world just to cover some loose lipped stupidity from the Donald???

Does Donald even know that those tiny states, after 9-11, were first in line to go with us to fight in Afghanistan and Iraq? There are still some of their soldiers in those middle eastern hellholes right along side our men and women. Do we not owe them some respect and loyalty for that?
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: joeactor on September 02, 2016, 03:04:15 PM
Garrison Keillor writes an open letter to Donald Trump:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/commentary/ct-donald-trump-losing-garrison-keillor-20160831-story.html (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/commentary/ct-donald-trump-losing-garrison-keillor-20160831-story.html)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: xSilverPhinx on September 18, 2016, 09:22:11 PM
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Arturo on September 19, 2016, 08:29:19 AM
https://www.bing.com/search?q=donald+trump+hillary+clinton+poll&PC=U316&FORM=CHROMN
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Magdalena on September 19, 2016, 02:27:05 PM
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"If you look out of your window and see the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse..."   :snicker:
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Davin on September 19, 2016, 07:14:54 PM
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: joeactor on September 21, 2016, 01:14:35 AM
(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.joesdump.com%2Fimages%2FTrumpSkittles_JoesDump_1200.jpg&hash=aee6e31306b264d13d01039f070d12c053b7429c)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Magdalena on September 21, 2016, 01:52:04 AM
^^^^
 :picard facepalm:
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Sandra Craft on September 21, 2016, 02:19:54 AM
^^^^
 :picard facepalm:

On the other hand, the Skittles company sent Trump Jr. a letter telling him to knock off comparing a candy to people, which was awesome.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Magdalena on September 21, 2016, 05:16:05 AM
^^^^
 :picard facepalm:

On the other hand, the Skittles company sent Trump Jr. a letter telling him to knock off comparing a candy to people, which was awesome.

"Sweet!" :grin:
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: joeactor on September 21, 2016, 02:16:50 PM
^^^^
 :picard facepalm:

On the other hand, the Skittles company sent Trump Jr. a letter telling him to knock off comparing a candy to people, which was awesome.

Most excellent...
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Guardian85 on September 22, 2016, 11:34:31 AM
^^^^
 :picard facepalm:

On the other hand, the Skittles company sent Trump Jr. a letter telling him to knock off comparing a candy to people, which was awesome.
Further cementing Skittles position as the perfect candy.  ;D
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Arturo on September 28, 2016, 05:24:07 AM
The predictions are making me super paranoid. Mr. Donald keeps moving up in the polls despite Clinton being predicted to win according to bing. Before she was hovering around 70% chance of winning, now she is below 65%

https://www.bing.com/search?q=election+predictions&FORM=MA137B&OCID=MA137B&wt.mc_id=MA137B

I can only imagine all the racist policies and agendas becoming common place in America if he gets elected.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Tank on September 28, 2016, 12:26:27 PM
The predictions are making me super paranoid. Mr. Donald keeps moving up in the polls despite Clinton being predicted to win according to bing. Before she was hovering around 70% chance of winning, now she is below 65%

https://www.bing.com/search?q=election+predictions&FORM=MA137B&OCID=MA137B&wt.mc_id=MA137B

I can only imagine all the racist policies and agendas becoming common place in America if he gets elected.
Those would be but a pinprick compared to his 'Nuke first ask questions later!' foreign policy. The arms manufacturers must be slavering at the though of the contracts.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Davin on September 28, 2016, 02:48:22 PM
It's weird to hear people say why they hate Hillary, then say that they are supporting a person who is worse in every way they mention. It's like, "Hillary is dishonest, so I'm voting for a person who lies way more than her."
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Icarus on September 28, 2016, 10:55:36 PM
Davin, I am also bewildered by the reasoning, or lack of it, by the Trump loyalists.   I suspect that he could actually do what he said he could do . That was;  he could  shoot someone in broad daylight, in the middle of 5th avenue, and still get plenty of votes.

Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Sandra Craft on September 28, 2016, 11:13:20 PM
I finally heard an explanation from a Trump supporter on why they're voting for Trump -- I'm paraphrasing, but she said "I'm voting for conservative politics and the asshole just comes along with it."
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Arturo on September 29, 2016, 07:21:12 AM
I heard one person tell me that they don't like Hillary Clinton because she is sick, physically and mentally with sociopathic tendencies. And all I can think about is how that describes Donald Trump and "wtf are you talking about???"

Donald just wants to build infrastructure so he can get himself contracts from the time he is sworn in until the end of time.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Icarus on October 05, 2016, 12:49:50 AM
Here is a vid, 14 minutes of it, by Keith Olbermann. The Trumpistas,  will not like it much. More than a hundred reasons to disdain the Trump candidacy.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Pasta Chick on October 05, 2016, 01:13:53 PM
I heard one person tell me that they don't like Hillary Clinton because she is sick, physically and mentally with sociopathic tendencies. And all I can think about is how that describes Donald Trump and "wtf are you talking about???"

Donald just wants to build infrastructure so he can get himself contracts from the time he is sworn in until the end of time.

This is what really bugs me... Hillary isn't perfect or anything, but every single argument I've heard against her, applies to Trump x100.

Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face...
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Velma on October 06, 2016, 08:13:40 AM
What baffles me is how many people who have claimed in the past to be progressive or liberal appear to have a rabid hatred of Hillary Clinton. It seems to escape their notice that the same people who have been smearing and obstructing Pres. Obama are smearing and lying about Clinton. For some reason, when Hillary is involved, it is believed immediately. I know some people say "Where there's smoke, there's fire." The woman has been investigated for over 20 years. This is a case of smoke bombs, not fires.

And speaking of investigations...the Republicans in Congress have been pushing the FBI to investigate every breath Hillary has ever taken. The same Congress who holds the purse strings. The FBI is supposed to be apolitical. However, given the constant harping of these Republicans, don't you think that the head of the FBI would have tried to find something, anything, that she could have been charged with? Never underestimate the power of self-interest in these situations. After all, his career and FBI funding are in their hands. They've even dragged the man to hearings to castigate him for not finding something to charge her with. The Republicans have thrown so many smoke bombs that people think there is actually a fire.

Is she perfect? No, she's a human being, by definition she's imperfect. But, come on, how many people do you know who could withstand 20+ years of such intense investigation and leave the investigators that little to show for it?
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Pasta Chick on October 06, 2016, 02:16:45 PM
Also the presumption of guilt despite fair trial is ridiculously un-American.

You love 'Murica and the Constitution must be protected, but someone accused of something is automatically guilty? And remains so even after being cleared? Wtf?

This has confused me for years - When I was working in a music store, MJ released a greatest hits compilation almost the same time he went on trial for pedophila. So we used to play the album in store and argue with people who would come in carrying on about how can you do that he's a pedophile!?

Sir he has only been accused, and since this is America, is thus innocent until convicted by a jury of his peers at a fair trial.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Velma on October 06, 2016, 04:41:41 PM
Exactly.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on October 07, 2016, 06:25:20 PM
(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi68.tinypic.com%2F14cta80.jpg&hash=9b0c18efea60453d5fcb6721c4d1eda6390411fa)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: xSilverPhinx on October 07, 2016, 07:26:17 PM
^  :lol:

That's really great!
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: joeactor on October 07, 2016, 11:55:03 PM
New Trump dirt from 2005:
Trump recorded having extremely lewd conversation about women in 2005 (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-recorded-having-extremely-lewd-conversation-about-women-in-2005/2016/10/07/3b9ce776-8cb4-11e6-bf8a-3d26847eeed4_story.html)

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Donald Trump bragged in vulgar terms about kissing, groping and trying to have sex with women during a 2005 conversation caught on a hot microphone — saying that “when you’re a star, they let you do it” — according to a video obtained by The Washington Post.

The video captures Trump talking with Billy Bush of “Access Hollywood” on a bus with Access Hollywood written across the side. They were arriving on the set of “Days of Our Lives” to tape a segment about Trump’s upcoming cameo on the soap opera.

The tape obtained by The Post includes audio of Bush and Trump’s conversation inside the bus, as well as audio and video once they emerge from it to begin shooting the segment.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Papasito Bruno on October 09, 2016, 06:00:08 PM
New Trump dirt from 2005:
Trump recorded having extremely lewd conversation about women in 2005 (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-recorded-having-extremely-lewd-conversation-about-women-in-2005/2016/10/07/3b9ce776-8cb4-11e6-bf8a-3d26847eeed4_story.html)

Quote
Donald Trump bragged in vulgar terms about kissing, groping and trying to have sex with women during a 2005 conversation caught on a hot microphone — saying that “when you’re a star, they let you do it” — according to a video obtained by The Washington Post.

The video captures Trump talking with Billy Bush of “Access Hollywood” on a bus with Access Hollywood written across the side. They were arriving on the set of “Days of Our Lives” to tape a segment about Trump’s upcoming cameo on the soap opera.

The tape obtained by The Post includes audio of Bush and Trump’s conversation inside the bus, as well as audio and video once they emerge from it to begin shooting the segment.

As both a husband and the father of a married adult woman I can tell you that they both are keeping me extremely busy today with projects and stuff to do that I barely have time to type this, so I have to keep it short.

 Ana Navarro, CNN’s Republican political commentator tore up the airways yesterday with regards to the Trump's comments saying, “It is not enough for Republican leadership to disavow his comments, to condemn his words, it is time to condemn the man. It is time to ask him to step down, it is time to tell America he does not represent Republican values. He is a pig, he is vile,” she thundered.

As a Republican commentator she has taken it to Trump from day one, and is admired on both sides of the isle for speaking so frankly, but what separates Navarro from other Republicans who are now huddled together in the Trump Tower, privately stewing, trying  to figure out how to put back together the mess in front of them, is the emotion, the fucking raw disgust she has shown on air for Trump (One of the reasons I love her so much even though I am a Democrat).

This segment from yesterday is classic.  (Possibly NSF).

This one is from earlier this week when she was discussing Mike Pence's "That Mexican thing" gaffe from the VP debate and she flat out calls Trump a racist in two languages. She said, "Es un racista,...he is a flat-out racist, and it’s what he’s played on for 16 months. He is a bigot, he is a racist, he is a misogynist"

Here she is talking about that "Thang"!

Talk abut dropping the mike, wow!

I just love these clips...Trump must be livid, what I would give to be a fly on the wall in the Trump Tower yesterday and today.


Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Pasta Chick on October 09, 2016, 06:06:27 PM
I'm pretty universally hearing that Trump is done after this, but I've been universally hearing what an idiot he is for months so I'm never sure where all his supporters are or what they number.

There's talk of "swapping the ticket" but I don't think this is a thing? A vice presidential running mate can't just take over for a presidential canidate because people don't like him anymore. That makes zero sense.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Velma on October 09, 2016, 10:08:50 PM
I'm pretty universally hearing that Trump is done after this, but I've been universally hearing what an idiot he is for months so I'm never sure where all his supporters are or what they number.

There's talk of "swapping the ticket" but I don't think this is a thing? A vice presidential running mate can't just take over for a presidential canidate because people don't like him anymore. That makes zero sense.
I am pretty sure allowances are made for certain dire circumstances, such as serious illness or death. However, I am also fairly certain we have passed the point where Trump can be removed from the ticket. Ballots have been printed and early votes have already been cast. At this point they are stuck with him.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Pasta Chick on October 09, 2016, 11:15:31 PM
My impression was that at this point in the game the election runs regardless. In the case of illness or death the remaining canidate still needs to win by a certain margin to be considered a valid election. I know some cities have technically elected dead persons because of this, in which case a rerunning of the whole process is started with whatever stand ins in place as dictated by local charters, etc. But I honestly have no idea how it works on a presidential level.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Velma on October 10, 2016, 07:14:19 AM
My impression was that at this point in the game the election runs regardless. In the case of illness or death the remaining canidate still needs to win by a certain margin to be considered a valid election. I know some cities have technically elected dead persons because of this, in which case a rerunning of the whole process is started with whatever stand ins in place as dictated by local charters, etc. But I honestly have no idea how it works on a presidential level.
Me either. I don't think there has been such a case associated with the presidential election.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Ecurb Noselrub on October 13, 2016, 03:37:43 PM
Trump is solidifying his lead in the race to become "Groper-in-Chief."  No need to be confined in the White House when he can grope in houses, airplanes, Trump Tower, studio sets, etc.  Much easier to believe all the allegations when he already bragged about grabbing crotches on tape.  The creepiest is when he went into the Miss Teen dressing room while they were naked.  Dirty Old Man. 
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Ecurb Noselrub on October 13, 2016, 05:10:53 PM
The lady he groped on the plane said he was like an octopus.  Now he can also be Octopus-in-Chief.  Or just Pus-in-Chief. 
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Pasta Chick on October 13, 2016, 05:22:55 PM
 No, I hold octopuses in high esteem. They're extremely intelligent and creative, of which Trump is neither, even ignoring his other glaring flaws.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Harmonie on October 13, 2016, 06:28:20 PM
I'm pretty universally hearing that Trump is done after this, but I've been universally hearing what an idiot he is for months so I'm never sure where all his supporters are or what they number.

Right, I mean it was obvious that Trump was misogynistic trash a longgggg time ago.

If people didn't stop supporting him then, I'm not sure what could stop them. I'm convinced that if he lit a house full of kittens on fire, his supporters would defend him and still follow him.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Davin on October 13, 2016, 07:45:51 PM
The only thing that Trump could do wrong, that he hasn't already done, that has any chance of him losing his supporters, is to say he wants to enact some gun regulations.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Ecurb Noselrub on October 14, 2016, 02:49:00 AM
You should listen to Michelle Obama's speech. Pretty powerful.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Magdalena on October 14, 2016, 05:48:49 AM
You should listen to Michelle Obama's speech. Pretty powerful.
Yes, pretty powerful:
http://www.nbcnews.com/video/michelle-obama-on-trump-s-comments-enough-is-enough-785269827588 (http://www.nbcnews.com/video/michelle-obama-on-trump-s-comments-enough-is-enough-785269827588)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Davin on October 14, 2016, 05:07:39 PM
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/08/donald-trump-twitter-iphone-android/495239/

Looks like Trump's handlers are not letting him play with one of his favorite toys.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: joeactor on October 14, 2016, 05:15:02 PM
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/08/donald-trump-twitter-iphone-android/495239/

Looks like Trump's handlers are not letting him play with one of his favorite toys.

Interesting analysis...
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Davin on October 14, 2016, 06:44:28 PM
I wish they'd just let him be himself.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on October 14, 2016, 07:09:23 PM
On BBC Radio 4's "News Quiz" (a comedy prog)

"Hilary is everything that Trump hates - a woman of his own age."
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Velma on October 14, 2016, 08:16:28 PM
It looks like the big donors are afraid the Trump is hurting the Republican Party's image. I'm sorry, but that ship sail long ago when the GOP decided that those letters stood for "God's Own Party" and they got in bed with the religious right.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/14/us/politics/republican-donors-trump.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Ecurb Noselrub on October 14, 2016, 08:42:59 PM
Trump strikes again:  He told Howard Stern that troubled women like Lindsay Lohan are better in bed.

http://money.cnn.com/2016/10/14/media/donald-trump-on-lindsay-lohan/index.html

He said this when she was still a teenager.  He is the gift that keeps on giving.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Davin on October 18, 2016, 04:29:05 PM
I think that this whole, "the election is rigged" shit is dangerous. Of course, rational people will likely dismiss it, but since guns are in the hands of many people who have an IQ far below average, it's not exactly a comforting thought to imagine voting day having more than a few dangerous issues when the Republican front runner is spouting this bullshit. And he's not the first to say it, all that voting fraud (actually almost zero), that the republicans have been saying is the purpose for new voter laws, is part of this.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/trumps-rigged-election-claims-wrong-dangerous%e2%80%8b/
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: joeactor on October 18, 2016, 05:45:50 PM
I think that this whole, "the election is rigged" shit is dangerous. Of course, rational people will likely dismiss it, but since guns are in the hands of many people who have an IQ far below average, it's not exactly a comforting thought to imagine voting day having more than a few dangerous issues when the Republican front runner is spouting this bullshit. And he's not the first to say it, all that voting fraud (actually almost zero), that the republicans have been saying is the purpose for new voter laws, is part of this.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/trumps-rigged-election-claims-wrong-dangerous%e2%80%8b/

Yeah... I can envision gun-toting morons "ensuring voting is fair" and scaring people away. It's nuts. The facts don't seem to mean anything any more.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Davin on October 18, 2016, 08:10:00 PM
I think that this whole, "the election is rigged" shit is dangerous. Of course, rational people will likely dismiss it, but since guns are in the hands of many people who have an IQ far below average, it's not exactly a comforting thought to imagine voting day having more than a few dangerous issues when the Republican front runner is spouting this bullshit. And he's not the first to say it, all that voting fraud (actually almost zero), that the republicans have been saying is the purpose for new voter laws, is part of this.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/trumps-rigged-election-claims-wrong-dangerous%e2%80%8b/

Yeah... I can envision gun-toting morons "ensuring voting is fair" and scaring people away. It's nuts. The facts don't seem to mean anything any more.
There were a few incidents the last two major elections in my city in "certain neighborhoods" and where I voted. Nothing violent happened, but it's not comforting having a guy yelling like a toddler at you to not vote for that illegal alien.

And it feels likely that in this climate, it will be worse this time.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Magdalena on October 19, 2016, 01:46:53 AM
There were a few incidents the last two major elections in my city in "certain neighborhoods" and where I voted. Nothing violent happened, but it's not comforting having a guy yelling like a toddler at you to not vote for that illegal alien.

And it feels likely that in this climate, it will be worse this time.

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Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Bad Penny II on October 19, 2016, 02:37:17 PM
I think that this whole, "the election is rigged" shit is dangerous. Of course, rational people will likely dismiss it, but since guns are in the hands of many people who have an IQ far below average, it's not exactly a comforting thought to imagine voting day having more than a few dangerous issues when the Republican front runner is spouting this bullshit. And he's not the first to say it, all that voting fraud (actually almost zero), that the republicans have been saying is the purpose for new voter laws, is part of this.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/trumps-rigged-election-claims-wrong-dangerous%e2%80%8b/

I was thinking after the election
Your well armed repugnant people
I'm sure they'll take the loss OK


politics was a gentleman's game
then there was the black moslem
I thought there couldn't be worse
but now a woman will be telling us
Wasn't a fair fight I knew it wasn't
Our orange clown he pointed it out
But there'll be time to put it to right
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Essie Mae on October 19, 2016, 10:06:20 PM
I've been trying to take an intelligent interest in the Murrikin election, but DT has defeated me. He makes my flesh crawl.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Icarus on October 20, 2016, 05:17:13 AM
He makes the flesh crawl for a lot of us Essie.  The most disturbing part is that so many of our eligible voters are enamored of the psychopathic crack pot.   It is not completely out of the question that DT could become the president elect. It is a long shot but not an impossibility.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Recusant on October 20, 2016, 07:18:29 PM
Newsweek takes a look at the Magnificent Cheeto's career in business: "A People's History of Donald Trump's Business Busts and Countless Victims" (http://www.newsweek.com/2016/10/28/donald-trump-business-busts-victims-511034.html)

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. . . Trump sold stock in his newly formed Trump Hotel and Casino Resorts, which owned all three of his Atlantic City casinos and another casino he had started in Indiana. He insisted the stock trade under the ticker DJT—his initials. As chairman of the company, Trump maintained a 41 percent stake, which was worth about $400 million when the stock hit its all-time high of $29.25 a share—less than a year after going public.

Under Trump’s leadership, however, the company was unprofitable every year, and by the end of his time as chairman, it had lost more than $1 billion. By 2004, the stock was selling for 65 cents a share, and the company fell into bankruptcy; people who had put their faith in the Trump name lost more than 90 percent of their investment. During the same time, those who owned funds based on the Standard & Poor’s 500 index more than doubled their money. Even in the greatest stock market ever, and in a business regularly described as a license to print money, Trump left only wreckage in his wake. And investors in Trump hotels saw nothing but losses.

On the other hand, Trump did just fine for himself. Even as his company’s stock price was collapsing and annual losses were piling up, filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission show that during his years as chairman, more than $60 million poured from the public company into Trump’s pockets.

This is the dirty secret behind Trump’s allegedly miraculous financial recovery. What he told the public was a fable: that he had fought his way back with perseverance and skill. In truth, he did it by snatching huge fistfuls of cash from a company that was wiping out the savings of millions of people.

[. . .]

Building after building, failure after failure, hundreds of millions of dollars lost. Each time, the buyers sued, saying they had been tricked into believing that Trump was the developer. And each time, Trump pointed to the fine print of the contracts, told the courts the buyers should have read them more carefully, and walked away. Potentially hundreds of people lost tens of millions of dollars while Trump pocketed huge sums through his licensing fees.

Trump’s career has been much of the same kind of scam. He demands applause and annihilates those who refuse to give it. He preens about successes he obtained only by destroying the wealth, careers and reputations of other people. He takes credit for the victories of others and denies any blame for his many failures. In his impulsive pursuit of self-aggrandizement, his victims are legion.

And now he vows to do to America what he did to them.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Ecurb Noselrub on October 20, 2016, 07:48:35 PM
He will not win.  He may start a new TV show or news network, though, to give him a forum for spouting his BS.  If 40% of the populace continues to support him, he'll make a bunch of money and give Rush Limbaugh some competition.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Magdalena on October 20, 2016, 08:09:02 PM
He will not win.  He may start a new TV show or news network, though, to give him a forum for spouting his BS...
Nooooooo!  :panic:
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Ecurb Noselrub on October 20, 2016, 08:36:30 PM
He will not win.  He may start a new TV show or news network, though, to give him a forum for spouting his BS...
Nooooooo!  :panic:

Perhaps if you cast a spell .......
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Icarus on October 20, 2016, 11:41:25 PM
It is unlikely that the Donald will win the election...not impossible but unlikely. The most fervent Trump boosters are promising that there will be palace revolts, pitch forks and all, if their guy loses. Those people are serious. That is scary.  In last nights debate, DT refused to say that he would concede if he loses. The election is "rigged" as every Trumpster  knows. The aftermath of a Trump loss could get to be a problem that could be considerably more serious than mere sour grapes.

I am concerned that if Clinton wins, which seems most likely, there will be backlash in the hyper right wing of congress and elsewhere that can render our government even less effective than it has been in the last eight, ill advised, "hate Obama's guts" years. 

Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Davin on October 21, 2016, 05:12:01 PM
It is unlikely that the Donald will win the election...not impossible but unlikely. The most fervent Trump boosters are promising that there will be palace revolts, pitch forks and all, if their guy loses. Those people are serious. That is scary.  In last nights debate, DT refused to say that he would concede if he loses. The election is "rigged" as every Trumpster  knows. The aftermath of a Trump loss could get to be a problem that could be considerably more serious than mere sour grapes.

I am concerned that if Clinton wins, which seems most likely, there will be backlash in the hyper right wing of congress and elsewhere that can render our government even less effective than it has been in the last eight, ill advised, "hate Obama's guts" years.
We need better news reporters, the kind that know their subjects and can present it in a better way focusing on the important things. Because most of us do not have time to spend hours a day digging through shit to find out what our representatives are doing. Then maybe people will vote better.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: xSilverPhinx on November 02, 2016, 07:38:31 PM
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Tom62 on November 07, 2016, 06:42:00 AM
Creepy similarities

http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.filmsforaction.org%2Fwatch%2Fdinosaur-explains-trump-policies-better-than-trump%2F&h=WAQGUtdHM (http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.filmsforaction.org%2Fwatch%2Fdinosaur-explains-trump-policies-better-than-trump%2F&h=WAQGUtdHM)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Magdalena on November 07, 2016, 07:28:05 AM
^^^
Wow!  :snicker:
Yes, creepy.
Hopefully, it will soon be over.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Arturo on November 07, 2016, 09:04:18 AM
All my internet friends keep leaning Trump and the media is in control and Donald is the sanest of the two. How did people from their 20s - 30s end up like this?
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Icarus on November 07, 2016, 08:05:05 PM
 If the people in their 20s and 30s are claiming that the Donald is the saner of the two, they need to stop smoking cheap weed.  The case against Trump is just about everything about him.  He knows nothing about government or critical issues although he foolishly claims that he does and he has apparently not tried to learn. He keeps making dumb statements such as his capacity to repeal Common Core. That is a state issue not a federal one.  He knows more about ISIS than the generals do, He has trouble finishing a sentence, he is crude and lewd, He has a history of poor judgements and uncaring acts. He has the intemperate qualities of a man who never grew up except sexually. His only qualification is that he is not Hillary.

Not to say that I am a Hillary fan. She has some serious baggage too. But she is wondrously intelligent, immensely well informed and as experienced as one is likely to get.   

She did not hang the Ambassador in Benghazi out to dry as accused. Ambassador Stevens  took it on himself to make the four hour drive to Benghazi from Tripoli. The Embassy is in Tripoli, Benghazi is an outpost. There are more than a hundred Embassies and diplomatic offices scattered around the globe. Could we expect any secretary of state to be in touch with all of them and mother hen them at all times?  Hillary did do some dumb shit with the E mails. She has agreed to that.

If we elect her, then it is for sure that she will be thwarted beyond any semblance of rationality by the opposition. Some of the nuttier ones have already planned to impeach her. Stay tuned. The election might be "rigged". 

Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dark Lightning on November 07, 2016, 09:39:58 PM
Our household recognized the Donald for what he was at the first clown car debate of 16 candidates. It didn't take the revelation of the misogynistic stuff; that's just a crust on the slime (can't bring myself to say "icing on the cake"). I frankly just don't understand the appeal. It's like following a religious figure, except ignoring non-delivery of miracles became ignoring everything for the alleged message- "make America great again", with not even an iota of a plan on how that is going to happen. All flash and no cash. One of Hillary's best quips was how she looked at some of Trump's books on making money and noticed that they all stopped at Chapter 11.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Icarus on November 07, 2016, 10:47:04 PM
Apathy, please urge your internet contacts, the ones with their heads in their asses, to watch this vid. Well alright the vid runs a bit long and  Kieth Olberman makes his point too many times, a hundred seventy six times.   
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Arturo on November 07, 2016, 11:54:52 PM
I send them the video. I called them all idiots as well.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Arturo on November 08, 2016, 01:45:21 AM
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1680402775606314&id=1597885840524675&refsrc=https%3A%2F%2Fm.facebook.com%2F1597885840524675%2Fvideos%2F1680402775606314%2F&_rdr
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Ecurb Noselrub on November 08, 2016, 01:52:16 AM
I've said from the beginning that Hillary will win, and tomorrow we will know (I hope). I just hope it's convincing.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Magdalena on November 08, 2016, 06:30:12 AM
Trump supporters, please vote November 28.  :smilenod: :grin:
http://file2.stuff.co.nz/450/16212450.mp4 (http://file2.stuff.co.nz/450/16212450.mp4)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dragonia on November 08, 2016, 02:03:25 PM
^^^ Bah ha ha! That is funny!  :lol:
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Ecurb Noselrub on November 08, 2016, 07:54:43 PM
My wife and I are having an election party.  Just us, so we don't piss anyone off.  If Hillary doesn't win - which is what I predict - my career as a political prognosticator is over.  I'll just start predicting the weather, where nobody expects you to get it right.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dark Lightning on November 08, 2016, 09:15:51 PM
IKR? As a meteorologist, 50% is a keeper. Try that in engineering, you'll be crushed under your own bridge.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Magdalena on November 08, 2016, 09:50:34 PM
My son just told me that his kindergarten class voted today. Here are the results:
Hillary got 20 votes.
Trump got 3 votes.
 :lol:
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: xSilverPhinx on November 08, 2016, 10:59:09 PM
I'm anxious. I really hope that Trump does not win this one. :watching:

The guy is a joke.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Magdalena on November 09, 2016, 03:07:32 AM
I'm anxious. I really hope that Trump does not win this one. :watching:

The guy is a joke.
I think the world is anxious.
...Anxious to see who will represent The United States of America.  :-\
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: xSilverPhinx on November 09, 2016, 03:42:40 AM
I'm anxious. I really hope that Trump does not win this one. :watching:

The guy is a joke.
I think the world is anxious.
...Anxious to see who will represent The United States of America.  :-\

:violin:

Hopefully this new reality show (called POTUS: Trump takes over America) will only it'll only run for four years.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Arturo on November 09, 2016, 04:21:43 AM
It's so close!!!!
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Harmonie on November 09, 2016, 04:47:27 AM
I read somewhere that he has taken an unprecedented amount of the Evangelical Christian vote.

That's right, this guy, who has OBVIOUSLY played up being Christian SOLELY for vote. You have got to be kidding me. Seriously. Are Evangelical Christians honest at all in their beliefs?

This election is so much of a wake-up call to me to the true colors of the USA. It's so scary.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Arturo on November 09, 2016, 05:32:15 AM
I read somewhere that he has taken an unprecedented amount of the Evangelical Christian vote.

That's right, this guy, who has OBVIOUSLY played up being Christian SOLELY for vote. You have got to be kidding me. Seriously. Are Evangelical Christians honest at all in their beliefs?

This election is so much of a wake-up call to me to the true colors of the USA. It's so scary.

My state of Michigan is up in the air with less than 1% leaning Trump
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Harmonie on November 09, 2016, 05:33:19 AM
I read somewhere that he has taken an unprecedented amount of the Evangelical Christian vote.

That's right, this guy, who has OBVIOUSLY played up being Christian SOLELY for vote. You have got to be kidding me. Seriously. Are Evangelical Christians honest at all in their beliefs?

This election is so much of a wake-up call to me to the true colors of the USA. It's so scary.

My state of Michigan is up in the air with less than 1% leaning Trump

The gap that I saw earlier has widened, so I'm not getting any hope.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Arturo on November 09, 2016, 05:35:19 AM
My anxiety is high. It hasn't been this high since I was doing drugs and had a mental break down
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Guardian85 on November 09, 2016, 05:36:51 AM
Didn't think I'd live to see the day a fascist was voted into a western nation again.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Icarus on November 09, 2016, 05:43:38 AM
It is midnight here in River City. The final returns are not yet confirmed....but it looks like the nation is in the toilet for having elected the Donald. WTF are we thinking? Cancel that question the answer is self evident.....We are not thinking.....a political pundit on PBS just said that the Democrats had shit in their own mess kit because they appointed the only person in America who could possibly lose to D. Trump.

Meanwhile the residents of the northern border states are battening down the hatches in expectation of the mass stampede of Americans who are headed to Canada.

 
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Harmonie on November 09, 2016, 05:44:23 AM
You know, Apathy, I actually dreamed of going to Michigan. But now I feel like Michigan is to much a part of the USA. I'll skip it and go straight to Canada.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Arturo on November 09, 2016, 06:37:48 AM
Ha. I would go to Canada, but they have a strict immigration policy. Unless you are related to a person who is already a citizen, then you can't get in.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Asmodean on November 09, 2016, 07:30:53 AM
...Not even as a Trump refugee? I think Norway may accept Trump refugees.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Arturo on November 09, 2016, 07:39:52 AM
...Not even as a Trump refugee? I think Norway may accept Trump refugees.

Well if there is any merit to the above by Icarus, then no.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Ecurb Noselrub on November 09, 2016, 01:43:33 PM
Well, obviously I was wrong, and I will never predict an election again.  I'm going into weather forecasting, where everyone expects you to be wrong.  I simply did not understand the level of rage in this nation.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Asmodean on November 09, 2016, 01:49:42 PM
Yes, but rage over what? At least, rage over what, which Trump is likely to fix?
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Davin on November 09, 2016, 02:02:11 PM
I predict that unemployment will go up, but it will be blamed on Obama.
I predict that national debt will go up, which will also be blamed on Obama.
I predict that the economy will tank again, which again will be blamed on Obama.
I predict that no wall will be built, and Trump will act like he never promised a real wall.
I predict that women will lose more rights.

And finally, I predict that most won't realize that they voted for it.

I don't know, I suppose I'm just upset and embarrassed that so many Americans voted for Trump. I'm now hoping that he does something very stupid and gets impeached.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Asmodean on November 09, 2016, 02:21:31 PM
Shouldn't be hard over in the US. Get him in a penis measuring contest or some such, film it, put it on YouTube and there you go. An impeachment-worthy scandal.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Pasta Chick on November 09, 2016, 02:28:04 PM
The problem with getting rid of Trump now is that it leaves Pence in charge. Which is somehow even more terrifying.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Davin on November 09, 2016, 02:31:47 PM
The problem with getting rid of Trump now is that it leaves Pence in charge. Which is somehow even more terrifying.
Pence will probably be the one doing all the work anyway, I think Trump will do what people like that normally do: tell other people to do things then take credit for the successes and blame the people doing the work for the failures.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: xSilverPhinx on November 09, 2016, 02:32:48 PM
Shouldn't be hard over in the US. Get him in a penis measuring contest or some such, film it, put it on YouTube and there you go. An impeachment-worthy scandal.

He could turn that into a reality show. Would probably make millions. :lol:
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Asmodean on November 09, 2016, 02:52:36 PM
...Or go bust.
















Oh! I see what you did there! Isn't that how he made the millions he does have?
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Ecurb Noselrub on November 09, 2016, 03:55:37 PM
Yes, but rage over what? At least, rage over what, which Trump is likely to fix?

Nothing that Trump is likely to fix.  The vote was a giant "fuck you" to the establishment and Washington.  The rage apparently is over immigration, trade deals that don't benefit Americans, an economy that mainly benefits the rich, and the perceived loss of white influence.  I knew it was there, just not so much. Things are OK for me, so I guess I'm out of touch.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Arturo on November 09, 2016, 04:30:29 PM
This thread is now monitored by the FBI
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Magdalena on November 09, 2016, 04:36:20 PM
:felix:
Life has lost its color.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Arturo on November 09, 2016, 04:43:26 PM
I had a dream that I was being attacked by the police. Every time I got away by being confronted and skillfully lying to their faces.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Asmodean on November 09, 2016, 05:15:16 PM
:felix:
Life has lost its color.
No, just got... Orang-er.  :smilenod:
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Magdalena on November 09, 2016, 05:23:50 PM
:felix:
Life has lost its color.
No, just got... Orang-er.  :smilenod:
OK. I really needed that. Thank you.  :lol:
Right now, gray looks beautiful.  :-\
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Arturo on November 09, 2016, 05:39:57 PM
It's all over
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Tank on November 09, 2016, 06:36:35 PM
It's all over
It's not even begun yet.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Arturo on November 09, 2016, 06:49:00 PM
It's all over
It's not even begun yet.

It's the beginning of the end?
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Tank on November 09, 2016, 06:50:30 PM
It's all over
It's not even begun yet.

It's the beginning of the end?
It's not even the end of the beginning.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Pasta Chick on November 09, 2016, 07:08:31 PM
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Asmodean on November 09, 2016, 07:11:34 PM
The prayers for deliverance to His hotline in The Gray Department of Grumpy Asylum Grants overwhelm the minions who slave there. Two US aquaintances are outright asking me to loan them a couch for half a decade, and I'm pretty sure one is pretty damned serious about it.

...This does mess With The Asmo after all.  >:(
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: xSilverPhinx on November 09, 2016, 07:12:45 PM

I thought of that song as well!  8)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Asmodean on November 09, 2016, 07:17:54 PM
The Asmo too shall try this Magic Spray Tan which makes people not see the evilness of it all...
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: xSilverPhinx on November 09, 2016, 07:23:08 PM
The Asmo too shall try this Magic Spray Tan which makes people not see the evilness of it all...

I was wondering, is my eyesight deceiving me or did the Asmo become a shade of orange?  :scratch:
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Asmodean on November 09, 2016, 07:26:40 PM
Yes, but does He seem more... Good? And trustworthy? And... Presidential? :smilenod:
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: xSilverPhinx on November 09, 2016, 07:29:14 PM
Yes, but does He seem more... Good? And trustworthy? And... Presidential? :smilenod:

Um...he looks like he's grumpy because he spent too much time in the sun.

Whoops! Did I say that out loud?  :-X

Yes, oh Grey, I mean Orange one. :smilenod: 
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Pasta Chick on November 09, 2016, 08:10:48 PM
Yes, but does He seem more... Good? And trustworthy? And... Presidential? :smilenod:

I just can't trust bald.

Perhaps a terrible combover, or toupee?
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Asmodean on November 09, 2016, 08:23:38 PM
 :headscratch:

...An orange combover-toupée though, no?

A Salmon-based sushi of some kind, perhaps?  :smilenod:
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Pasta Chick on November 09, 2016, 08:38:05 PM
Matt Groening suggests a small dog

(https://pmcvariety.files.wordpress.com/2016/07/donald-trump-simpsons.jpg?w=995&h=537&crop=1)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: xSilverPhinx on November 11, 2016, 12:46:29 PM
(https://media.giphy.com/media/l0HFiBi4a1dHylhRe/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: joeactor on November 11, 2016, 02:28:51 PM
(https://media.giphy.com/media/l0HFiBi4a1dHylhRe/giphy.gif)

So... Who we gonna call?!?!?
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: xSilverPhinx on November 11, 2016, 02:34:36 PM
So... Who we gonna call?!?!?

Ghost err... busted? :notsure:
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Davin on November 11, 2016, 02:41:31 PM
(https://media.giphy.com/media/l0HFiBi4a1dHylhRe/giphy.gif)

So... Who we gonna call?!?!?
It's too late to call anyone, now everyone has to step up and become more politically active. There is a chance to limit the damage in two years when we can vote again. Typically, conservatives come out in droves in those elections while liberals sit it out. But it's even more important this time. Also, politicians tend to listen to large amounts of voices, so having everyone voicing their opinions can sway most of them.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Arturo on November 11, 2016, 05:18:18 PM
Who ya gonna call?

:chairhide: Mommy
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Magdalena on November 11, 2016, 06:20:03 PM
(https://media.giphy.com/media/l0HFiBi4a1dHylhRe/giphy.gif)
This is funny!  :lol:
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Recusant on November 12, 2016, 10:18:40 PM
In the days before the election, I quietly tried to steel myself for a Trump presidency. Despite the polls that showed Clinton in the lead, I've never trusted the American public to choose a decent president since they decided to ditch Carter and elect fucking Ronald Reagan instead. I'm not saying that Clinton would have been a decent president--that's something we'll never get to learn. Nor am I saying that I thought Trump would win, but I definitely knew that he could win.

The list of crap that could come down in the next few years is daunting enough to put any sensible person into a severe funk. But, if nothing else, Trump is a colossal liar. So what he said and what will happen are going to be two very different things. That's not much to hang a bit of hope on, but it's something.

The story below isn't heartening in any way, but it may begin to clue in those who voted for Trump that they've been had by a completely unscrupulous grifter: "Donors and lobbyists already shaping Trump’s ‘drain the swamp’ administration" | Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/donors-and-lobbyists-already-shaping-trumps-drain-the-swamp-administration/2016/11/11/d1c13704-a828-11e6-ba59-a7d93165c6d4_story.html)

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The chant echoed through Donald Trump’s boisterous rallies leading up to Election Day: “Drain the swamp! Drain the swamp! Drain the swamp!”

“We are fighting for every citizen that believes that government should serve the people, not the donors and not the special interests,” the billionaire real estate developer promised exuberant supporters at his last campaign rally in Manchester, N.H.

But just days later, there is little evidence that the president-elect is seeking to restrain wealthy interests from having access and influence in his administration.

It’s not just corporate lobbyists who are playing early, visible roles in the new power structure. Some of Trump’s biggest political donors are shaping the incoming administration, including Rebekah Mercer, a daughter of billionaire Robert Mercer, who is figuring prominently in behind-the-scenes discussions, according to people familiar with the transition.

Mercer is among four major donors appointed by Trump Friday to a 16-person executive committee overseeing his transition.

[Continues . . . (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/donors-and-lobbyists-already-shaping-trumps-drain-the-swamp-administration/2016/11/11/d1c13704-a828-11e6-ba59-a7d93165c6d4_story.html)]

Make no mistake. This is just a little taste of how a Trump presidency will expose just how thoroughly he's duped those who supported him. But I won't be surprised if they decide to re-elect him, either.

Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Tom62 on November 13, 2016, 07:29:36 PM
Only time will tell of how Trump will guide the USA to better times ;). I'm already happy when he turns out to be as "good" as Ronald Reagan.
The downfall of Carter was the hostage crisis in Iran. Would he' have succeeded to liberate the hostages then the American people, would have reelected him. Ronald Reagan was perhaps a crook (Iran-contra affair), but a very charming one. He had guts and what I truly like about him is that he helped bringing down the Berlin Wall.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Recusant on November 16, 2016, 03:40:51 PM
It's looking like ideological purity will be more important than competence in the Trump administration.

"Sane, Competent Official Uncovered on Trump Transition Team and Is Immediately Fired" | New York (http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/11/competent-official-uncovered-on-trump-transition-is-fired.html)

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The bad news on Donald Trump’s transition team is that Mike Rogers, one of the better informed and respected members of the Republican security establishment, has been booted off.

[. . .]

The even worse news is that the person who was fired for not being crazy was replaced by somebody who is famous for being crazy. Frank Gaffney has taken Rogers’s spot. Gaffney suffers from a variety of delusional beliefs concerning secret Islamic subversion of the government . . .

[Continues . . . (http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/11/competent-official-uncovered-on-trump-transition-is-fired.html)]
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Ecurb Noselrub on November 16, 2016, 04:04:13 PM
President Obama suggested that we keep an "open mind" about Trump.  I'm willing to wait a few months before I judge what his presidency is going to turn into.  President Obama also said that we should all hope for Trump's success.  That's hard when you voted for the other candidate, but a failed Presidency will hurt us all.  I hope he rights his own ship and does well.  But that remains to be seen.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Recusant on November 16, 2016, 04:30:50 PM
Trump has displayed his character, or rather, lack of character prominently for decades. President Obama, during the campaign, made his opinion on the matter rather clear. His words since the election are intended to try to calm the public, and I respect that, but I have no illusions regarding the competence or integrity of Trump.

"Obama Is Warning America About Trump’s Presidency. Are You Listening?" | New Republic (https://newrepublic.com/article/138757/obama-warning-america-trumps-presidency-listening)

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Reading comprehension and patience only scratch the surface of difficulties Trump will face. “I think there will be certain elements of his temperament that will not serve him well unless he recognizes them and corrects them,” Obama added, “because when you’re a candidate and you say something that is inaccurate or controversial, it has less impact than it does when you’re president of the United States. Everybody around the world is paying attention, markets moves. National security issues require a level of precision in order to make sure you don’t make mistakes. I think he recognizes that this is different.”

[. . .]

On the campaign trail, Trump responded to relatively trivial setbacks by grinding campaign norms into dust. One of his favorite tactics was positing a variety of fake realities (international conspiracies, the fictional crimes of his enemies, the imagined hellscapes of inner cities) meant to turn his base’s focus away from some new mortifying revelation and back to the demagogic message of his candidacy.

Obama’s warning to Trump, and everyone who stands to suffer for his errors, is that living in a rhetorical fantasy will backfire on a president. “Regardless of what experience or assumptions he brought to the office, this office has a way of waking you up,” Obama said. “And those aspects of his positions or predispositions that don’t match up with reality—he will find shaken up pretty quick, because reality has a way of asserting itself.”

Should Trump respond to such shakeups by transgressing governing norms, where he once transgressed campaigning norms, Obama warned that he would find himself in the midst of scandal or crime.

“One of the things you discover about being president is that there are all these rules and norms and laws and you’ve got to pay attention to them,” Obama said, as if the president-elect weren’t a 70-year-old person with a fancy education. “The people who work for you are also subject to those rules and norms. And that’s a piece of advice that I gave to the incoming president.”

[Continues . . . (https://newrepublic.com/article/138757/obama-warning-america-trumps-presidency-listening)]

Trump believes that he has "the BEST temperament." He's a 70 year old narcissistic ass. To believe that he's going to "recognize . . . and correct" elements of his own temperament at this point is an exercise in futility.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Ecurb Noselrub on November 16, 2016, 05:01:15 PM

Trump believes that he has "the BEST temperament." He's a 70 year old narcissistic ass. To believe that he's going to "recognize . . . and correct" elements of his own temperament at this point is an exercise in futility.

Granted, but there is still hope that the office itself will restrain him.  Anyway, I'm holding out hope for a miracle, but that hope has an expiration date of about May 1, 2017.  If I haven't seen hopeful signs by then, I might get depressed.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Davin on November 16, 2016, 05:10:04 PM
The list of potential appointments to various offices doesn't look good. Hopefully they will change to better people, but I highly doubt many will change.

So people voted for him because he wasn't a professional politician hoping he would do something different, and he ends up doing the very same political things but worse. At least a professional politician would have pretended to be appointing some qualified people and not make it look they're filling all available positions to scratch the backs of his friends and family. I really wish the people that voted for Trump could look and see that made a mistake, not really for a "I told you so," but for a, "so now that you know you made a mistake, in the future you'll try to not make the same mistake again by looking at the facts."

At least my hope is many of them will learn from this.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Pasta Chick on November 16, 2016, 05:30:08 PM
What is "success" or "failure" as a politician, though? I certainly hope he doesn't drive the country into the ground. I don't think any significant number of people wish for that, although there's always some jackass who's willing to cut off their nose to spite their face.

So that leaves his policies. Which, granted are few and without much detail... But what we do know is what he has said is pretty horrible. In that regard, yes, I hope he fails. And I hope he drops this bullshit about a wall before it even has a chance to fail, because that's going to be one expensive failure

My one hope all along was that he would turn back to his Dem-leaning past. He blew that away with Pence. So then I hoped he would at least stay true to shaking things up and "drain the swamp." Maybe put Pence on a back burner, his use to manipulate the Evangelical vote passed. But that's plainly not happening either.

Part of me wants to sit back and say, "fuck it, y'all have been bitching and moaning for 8 years. You're in full control now. Fix it." But in that balance literally hangs my health and safety - I'm currently on birth control for non-BC reasons and I am NOT a good candidate for an uneventful pregnancy should that happen. Not to mention the rights of so many of my LGBTQ and non-white friends. And as atheists, y'all should fucking care that Evangelical creationists who believe in "states rights" on religious freedom are being put in power.

So I can't. I don't know what to do. I'm talking about meeting some friends in DC in Jan to march against this shit. But that won't matter either, because we're "just whining sore losers" and Trump never did or said anything racist/misogynist/otherwise bigoted.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on November 16, 2016, 09:33:13 PM
Seems this was, sort of, predicted many years ago . . .

(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi63.tinypic.com%2F5xvdx.jpg&hash=872f4475583abb317591fc64047fef3b2f747e6d)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Recusant on November 17, 2016, 12:11:09 AM
That is an accurate quote of Mencken. It was wheeled out during the era of Bush II, but that particular graphic comes from "The Patriot Post," a conservative blog, and was intended to refer to President Obama.

(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi63.tinypic.com%2F296n1iw.jpg&hash=0a413230a6123d7ba3e514cead14abfcca574934)

For obvious reasons, whoever decided to recycle it has clipped the "Patriot Post" logo.  :sidesmile:
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Harmonie on November 17, 2016, 03:39:34 AM
Well, nevertheless the quote fits Trump MUCH better than even Bush II. I mean "narcissistic" just kind of perfectly describes Trump.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Recusant on November 17, 2016, 03:27:03 PM
As much as I admire Mencken's gift for prose and find I agree with things he said, I also disagree with some of what he wrote. Anyway, I don't believe that Trump "represents the inner soul of the people." Certainly it's true of some, but I think they're a distinct (and decreasing) minority.

The demographics of the country are changing; there will always be some among us who are willing to swallow or overlook vapid, despicable xenophobic crud spewed by people like Trump, but I don't think they'll have the numbers to elect a president for very long. See "Trump’s coalition won the demographic battle. It’ll still lose the war." | Vox (http://www.vox.com/the-big-idea/2016/11/15/13629814/trump-coalition-white-demographics-working-class)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on November 17, 2016, 04:26:53 PM
As much as I admire Mencken's gift for prose and find I agree with things he said, I also disagree with some of what he wrote. Anyway, I don't believe that Trump "represents the inner soul of the people." Certainly it's true of some, but I think they're a distinct (and decreasing) minority.

The demographics of the country are changing; there will always be those who are willing to swallow or overlook vapid, despicable xenophobic crud spewed by people like Trump among us, but I don't think they'll have the numbers to elect a president for very long. See "Trump’s coalition won the demographic battle. It’ll still lose the war." | Vox (http://www.vox.com/the-big-idea/2016/11/15/13629814/trump-coalition-white-demographics-working-class)

I agree with you in some respects, Recusant, but only in the way that "inner soul" is probably anachronistic in the sense it might have had nearly a hundred years ago.

Perhaps "will" would be a better term? By the "will" of a not terribly huge majority of the people they chose a person that best matched their own moral/ethical framework*. Actually, in terms of actual people they did not chose Trump, Clinto had the popular majority it seems.

One day we will hopefully have a popular majority voting system for the top job (even in Britain I hope) that truly represents the "will of the people". The representatives for smaller divisions should have a voting "power" proportional to the population of that division. Divisions would have to be by population density rather than administrative area - about the same number of people in each division.

* In what he promised, as the article and many others have said he will probably fail to deliver many of those promises.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Davin on November 17, 2016, 04:42:29 PM
I just read this, sad how many Trump Chumps fell for fake news just because they refused to fact check. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2016/11/17/facebook-fake-news-writer-i-think-donald-trump-is-in-the-white-house-because-of-me/?tid=sm_tw
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Recusant on November 17, 2016, 06:01:49 PM
If something appears to confirm your beliefs you are more inclined to accept it. Even with a skeptical approach to information, acknowledging your own bias is an effort. On the other hand, if your mindset is molded by a system of thought that discourages questioning, you're rather vulnerable to misinformation that comes from a source you believe in.

I came across a long blog post today that examines statements along the lines of "The Democratic party needs to try to understand white rural Americans better." The author makes some good points, but I think he's overstating some of them.

"On Rural America: Understanding Isn’t The Problem" (http://forsetti.tumblr.com/post/153181757500/on-rural-america-understanding-isnt-the-problem)


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As the aftermath of the election of Donald Trump is being sorted out, a common theme keeps cropping up from all sides-”Democrats failed to understand white, working class, fly-over America.”  Trump supports are saying this.  Progressive pundits are saying this.  Talking heads across all forms of the media are saying this.  Even  some Democratic leaders are saying this.  It doesn’t matter how many people say it, it is complete bullshit.  It is an intellectual/linguistic sleight of hand meant to throw attention away from the real problem.  The real problem isn’t east coast elites don’t understand or care about rural America.  The real problem is rural America doesn’t understand the causes of their own situations and fears and they have shown no interest in finding out.  They don’t want to know why they feel the way they do or why they are struggling because the don’t want to admit it is in large part because of choices they’ve made and horrible things they’ve allowed themselves to believe.

[. . .]

In deep red, white America, the white Christian God is king, figuratively and literally.  Religious fundamentalism is what has shaped most of their belief systems.  Systems built on a fundamentalist framework are not conducive for introspection, questioning, learning, change.  When you have a belief system that is built on fundamentalism, it isn’t open to outside criticism, especially by anyone not a member of your tribe and in a position of power.  The problem isn’t “coastal elites don’t understand rural Americans.”  The problem is rural America doesn’t understand itself and will NEVER listen to anyone outside their bubble.  It doesn’t matter how “understanding” you are, how well you listen, what language you use…if you are viewed as an outsider, your views are automatically discounted.  I’ve had hundreds of discussions with rural white Americans and whenever I present them any information that contradicts their entrenched beliefs, no matter how sound, how unquestionable, how obvious, they WILL NOT even entertain the possibility it might be true.  Their refusal is a result of the nature of their fundamentalist belief system and the fact I’m the enemy because I’m an educated liberal.  At some point during the discussion, “That’s your education talking,” will be said, derogatorily, as a general dismissal of everything I said.  They truly believe this is a legitimate response because to them education is not to be trusted.  Education is the enemy of fundamentalism because fundamentalism, by its very nature, is not built on facts.

[Continues . . . (http://forsetti.tumblr.com/post/153181757500/on-rural-america-understanding-isnt-the-problem)]
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Ecurb Noselrub on November 17, 2016, 08:52:38 PM
If you deeply believe that the Bible is the literal, inspired, infallible, and inerrant Word of God, that is almost an impenetrable defense against criticism.  And the Muslim faith in the Qur'an is even stronger. It will take generations to chip through.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Recusant on November 19, 2016, 05:03:58 AM
Jeff Sessions, Trump's choice for Attorney General of the United States, was rejected when Reagan tried to appoint him as a federal judge because of sworn testimony regarding his use of racist language and his opposition to the US government promoting civil rights for minorities (https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/cifamerica/2009/may/05/jeff-sessions-arlen-specter-judiciary-committee), as well as other statements that many considered disqualifying.

Sessions isn't just in favor of Trump's wall, he's been a vocal opponent of immigration reform of any kind, and in fact would like to strongly restrict legal immigration to the United States (http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/11/anti-immigrant-influence-jeff-sessions-trump).

Sessions called the Supreme Court's ruling in Obergefell v. Hodges (which effectively legalized same sex marriage in the US) "unconstitutional," (http://wkrg.com/2015/06/29/senator-sessions-on-gay-marriage/) and believes it is part of a misguided effort to "secularize" the United States (http://www.sessions.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/news-releases?ID=85FA3DD5-8679-437D-9F52-C4448505D84A). He also opposed the ruling in Lawrence v. Texas (http://www.sessions.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/floor-statements?ID=EE3275A1-7E9C-9AF9-7D4E-8CD6B52F42F0), which declared that "anti-sodomy" laws were unconstitutional.

Sessions is strongly opposed to the legalization of cannabis and has said that "good people don't smoke marijuana." (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/11/18/trumps-pick-for-attorney-general-good-people-dont-smoke-marijuana/)

I think it's reasonable to say that his influence on the Justice Department of the United States (and thereby on life in the United States) would be extremely negative. Despite President Obama's words about having an open mind regarding Trump's presidency, nothing he's done up till now (certainly including putting Sessions up for Attorney General) inclines me to consider him anything but a looming disaster for the country.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Guardian85 on November 19, 2016, 05:28:56 PM
(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.boredpanda.com%2Fblog%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2016%2F11%2F797612934729973760-png__700.jpg&hash=d2105b0857e03e6ca6e1c87830cb78f9e21cee06)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Magdalena on November 19, 2016, 09:35:18 PM
Jeff Sessions, Trump's choice for Attorney General of the United States, was rejected when Reagan tried to appoint him as a federal judge because of sworn testimony regarding his use of racist language and his opposition to the US government promoting civil rights for minorities (https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/cifamerica/2009/may/05/jeff-sessions-arlen-specter-judiciary-committee), as well as other statements that many considered disqualifying.

Sessions isn't just in favor of Trump's wall, he's been a vocal opponent of immigration reform of any kind, and in fact would like to strongly restrict legal immigration to the United States (http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/11/anti-immigrant-influence-jeff-sessions-trump).

Sessions called the Supreme Court's ruling in Obergefell v. Hodges (which effectively legalized same sex marriage in the US) "unconstitutional," (http://wkrg.com/2015/06/29/senator-sessions-on-gay-marriage/) and believes it is part of a misguided effort to "secularize" the United States (http://www.sessions.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/news-releases?ID=85FA3DD5-8679-437D-9F52-C4448505D84A). He also opposed the ruling in Lawrence v. Texas (http://www.sessions.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/floor-statements?ID=EE3275A1-7E9C-9AF9-7D4E-8CD6B52F42F0), which declared that "anti-sodomy" laws were unconstitutional.

Sessions is strongly opposed to the legalization of cannabis and has said that "good people don't smoke marijuana." (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/11/18/trumps-pick-for-attorney-general-good-people-dont-smoke-marijuana/)

I think it's reasonable to say that his influence on the Justice Department of the United States (and thereby on life in the United States) would be extremely negative. Despite President Obama's words about having an open mind regarding Trump's presidency, nothing he's done up till now (certainly including putting Sessions up for Attorney General) inclines me to consider him anything but a looming disaster for the country.
Thank you for keeping us well–informed, always.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Recusant on November 20, 2016, 04:06:17 AM
I'd say "my pleasure," but it's more just "my rant." Mildly therapeutic, I guess.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Firebird on November 20, 2016, 04:27:02 AM
I've still never had a panic attack, but I came pretty damn close election night. Couldn't sleep most of the night and ended up in a deep funk for over a week. I'm still getting over it.
I'm angry for many reasons, but it's also personal. My wife is Turkish, thankfully a US citizen now, but her family is still mostly over there, and I'm terrified that they won't be able to come visit us soon. I already told them to go renew their tourist visas now before things take a turn for the worse. They were also thinking about moving here because Turkey's president is a thin-skinned autocrat trying to shut down the press, and they feel under siege there. Now? Maybe there's no point doing it.
I've been coping as much as I can. I have a list of non-profits I'm going to donate to more often. I've decided not to hold myself back as much as i used to online and in person. Maybe we're fucked anyway, but if so, at least I'll go down fighting.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Magdalena on November 20, 2016, 05:03:49 AM
I'd say "my pleasure," but it's more just "my rant." Mildly therapeutic, I guess.
OK.
:grin:
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Magdalena on November 20, 2016, 05:05:47 AM
...
 I've decided not to hold myself back as much as i used to online and in person.
...
:worried:
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Sandra Craft on November 20, 2016, 08:32:53 AM
I've still never had a panic attack, but I came pretty damn close election night. Couldn't sleep most of the night and ended up in a deep funk for over a week. I'm still getting over it.
I'm angry for many reasons, but it's also personal. My wife is Turkish, thankfully a US citizen now, but her family is still mostly over there, and I'm terrified that they won't be able to come visit us soon. I already told them to go renew their tourist visas now before things take a turn for the worse. They were also thinking about moving here because Turkey's president is a thin-skinned autocrat trying to shut down the press, and they feel under siege there. Now? Maybe there's no point doing it.
I've been coping as much as I can. I have a list of non-profits I'm going to donate to more often. I've decided not to hold myself back as much as i used to online and in person. Maybe we're fucked anyway, but if so, at least I'll go down fighting.

Yeah, this election has been a whole different experience for me.  I've been disappointed that my candidate lost before, but that's all.  I've never been angry at an election's results -- and not just angry at who won, but at the people who voted for him.  I honestly think this is the angriest I've ever been as an adult, about anything.  I really don't think I'm ever going to get over the fact that someone endorsed by the KKK got any votes at all, much less a quarter of the population's (and most of the white vote).
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Recusant on November 21, 2016, 12:28:54 AM
Following on from my post about Trump putting up the repugnant Jeff Sessions for Attorney General, might as well take a look at Mike Pompeo as the head of the CIA.

This is a fellow who supports Trump's idea of bringing back torture as an intelligence gathering method. Torture is not only illegal both in the US and internationally, but it simply isn't an effective method to get accurate intelligence. It's basically a tool of terrorism.

He's also in favor of keeping the prison at Guantanamo Bay open, and putting more "suspects" into it.

As far as I know, he hasn't weighed in on Trump's idea that the US should kill the families of terrorists, but it certainly wouldn't surprise me if he agreed with that as well.

I guess he'll just have to keep his distrust of Russia on the down low, given Trump's admiration for Putin, and the apparent Trump love coming from Russia (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/11/09/russians-toast-to-president-trump.html). I expect he'll be able to manage that.

"Mike Pompeo, Trump's pick for CIA director, could take the agency back to its darkest days" | Vox (http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/18/13676756/mike-pompeo-trump-pick-cia-director)

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. . . Pompeo’s extremely hawkish views on critical national security issues, such as his support for keeping open the US prison at Guantanamo Bay; his defense of brutal CIA interrogation practices like waterboarding and “rectal feeding”; and his overwhelming focus on the dire threat of “radical Islamic terrorism” — all positions closely aligned with those of President-elect Trump and his new national security adviser, Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn (http://www.vox.com/2016/11/17/13673280/mike-flynn-trump-new-national-security-adviser-russia-isis-obama-clinton-turkey) — suggest he is not likely to be a particularly sobering or restraining force on the president-elect, particularly when it comes to controversial policies like torture and drone strikes (http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/14/13577464/president-donald-trump-torture-drone-strikes-nsa-surveillance).

[Continues . . . (http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/18/13676756/mike-pompeo-trump-pick-cia-director)]
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Icarus on November 21, 2016, 05:32:05 AM
The strike count is at least four. He struck out with too many of the appointments to allow us to be comfortable. The first bad choice was Pence for VP. He has proudly announced that he is: " a Christian, a conservative, and a republican, in that order" Then there is Steve Bannon the racist, homophobe, anti semite, dude whose hygiene is not what one would call executive quality. Sessions is certainly a questionable candidate for AG and Pompeo as head of the spook agency????  Holy shit, Sarah Palins name has actually been suggested.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Sandra Craft on November 21, 2016, 10:20:22 AM
Holy shit, Sarah Palins name has actually been suggested.

As Sec of the Interior, no less.  We won't have a wolf left.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Guardian85 on November 21, 2016, 11:59:04 AM
Sessions is certainly a questionable candidate for AG and Pompeo as head of the spook agency???? 
Which one? You have at least a dozen.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Davin on November 21, 2016, 02:09:15 PM
Trump is a thin skinned baby.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/11/21/donald-trumps-hamilton-twitter-genius-isnt-all-its-cracked-up-to-be/

How does a person get from watching that video to describing what happened to Pence as harassment?
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Pasta Chick on November 21, 2016, 05:29:08 PM
I can't even with his demand for a "safe space".
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Tank on November 22, 2016, 08:31:19 AM
America just find a good candidate for 2020. PLEASE!!!!!
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Asmodean on November 22, 2016, 11:02:57 AM
Heh... By then it's less than a decade until Mars One launches its first expedition. Ooh, the possibilities!

I was to a thing where Bas Lansdorp spoke, by the way. Promising. I'd like to see them succeed.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Pasta Chick on November 22, 2016, 11:07:22 AM
HAVE WE ALL SEEN THE VIDEO OF ACTUAL NAZIS?

What in the ever loving fuck?

Half my Facebook feed is on Twitter vigil waiting for there to be AT LEAST an "Alec Baldwin called me orange!" Level freak out about ACTUAL GODDAMN NAZIS.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Asmodean on November 22, 2016, 12:10:31 PM
Nope. I haven't seen it because Nazis don't really interest me that much.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Pasta Chick on November 22, 2016, 01:20:32 PM
Somehow I don't think ignoring them is going to help.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Asmodean on November 22, 2016, 01:24:29 PM
As long as they are content with ignoring me...

That said, lacking in interest is not the same as lacking an opinion, neither of which necessitates actively ignoring something. Opinions I do have, but I can do very little about Nazism other than to follow and promote my own ideology whenever I am able and, considering it less-than-interesting, I passively ignore it in much the same way as I do soccer on TV or people bragging about the "accomplishments" of their young children. I don't actively seek to avoid those issues/phenomena, but nor do I stand in line for the front seat tickets.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Pasta Chick on November 22, 2016, 01:53:58 PM
It's like, front page news here.

"ALT-Right" Rally (http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/trailguide/la-na-trailguide-updates-neo-nazi-alt-right-crowd-cheers-the-1479774847-htmlstory.html)

His campaign has denounced it for him, but his personal silence is deafening
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on November 22, 2016, 03:51:22 PM
And now the Rump has ignored all diplomatic protocols (unsurprisingly) by saying Nigel Farage (aka Niggly Farago) should be appointed the new UK ambassador! Even in a Twitter I think that is an ignorant move, and I gave little respect for the traditional way of doing things.

Oh, I suppose these orange people are bound stick together.

Rump is still on course to be the global disaster many (including me) expect.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Recusant on November 22, 2016, 04:10:36 PM
I had already started a post about this latest example (http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-38062580) of Trump's presumptuous fatuity. Thanks for providing a British perspective, Gloucester.  :)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on November 22, 2016, 04:30:14 PM
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Recusant on November 22, 2016, 04:38:00 PM
HAVE WE ALL SEEN THE VIDEO OF ACTUAL NAZIS?

What in the ever loving fuck?

Half my Facebook feed is on Twitter vigil waiting for there to be AT LEAST an "Alec Baldwin called me orange!" Level freak out about ACTUAL GODDAMN NAZIS.

I agree that there is no room for doubt regarding the context of this event. The speech by the slimy white supremacist Spencer had both subtle and blatant references to Nazi ideology. The final "Hail victory" is a direct translation of the infamous Nazi Sieg Heil (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_salute).

Trump's feeble response (https://www.rawstory.com/2016/11/that-statement-is-so-weak-david-gergen-brutally-hammers-trump-response-to-neo-nazi-supporters/) is not surprising. He's been playing footsie with the white supremacists all along, while feigning ignorance, as when he denied knowing "anything" about David Duke (http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/mar/02/donald-trump/trumps-absurd-claim-he-knows-nothing-about-former-/).
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on November 22, 2016, 04:47:43 PM
I had already started a post about this latest example (http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-38062580) of Trump's presumptuous fatuity. Thanks for providing a British perspective, Gloucester.  :)

A quick read of that article does not seem to mention the position this puts the UK govt in.

Britain will desperately need all the trade and diplomatic help it can get from the States if we do implement Brexit, indications are that Europe are going to pile as much shit on us as they can,

Now we have the prospect of incurring the wrath of a thin skinned narcissistic diplomatic ignoramus by not making his new buddy our US ambassador! Of course they get on well, they are of a very similar mould; a mouldiness that stinks and that Britain and the world  does not need right now.

Next he will be touting Berlusconi for the Italian ambassador.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on November 22, 2016, 05:13:19 PM
BBC News has just said that Breitbart News is accusing Rump of lying because he says he will not carry out his threat of legal action against Clinton, as promised.

Cracks in the hull of the ship of fools already?

Can't find confirmation though.

Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Ecurb Noselrub on November 22, 2016, 07:02:32 PM
America just find a good candidate for 2020. PLEASE!!!!!

Nigel Farage.  He can do the impossible.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Ecurb Noselrub on November 22, 2016, 07:05:20 PM
Nazis have always been around - but now Trump has made them feel legitimate.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Pasta Chick on November 22, 2016, 07:22:22 PM
Can we make the entire nation sit down and watch American History X or something?

I know they've always been there - as is their shitty, knuckle-dragging right - but the legitimization is horrifying.

Part of the problem is the media representation of Spencer. It's sickening the article's labeling him "dapper" and giving credit to his "think tank" like he's not an actual goddamn Nazi.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Bad Penny II on November 23, 2016, 01:52:53 PM
Has he resiled from the pump up the military thing yet?
Is China still financing US excess?
Going to war with your creditor would be clever if you could but you can't unless you're a last pages of the bible type.

I don't get why spending more on military is a vote catcher.
It's not as if you send it off pillage and bring back the spoils.

Europe has to pay more, Japan has to pay more... so shouldn't the US have to spend less on nasties and be enabled to spend more on niceness?
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Recusant on November 23, 2016, 03:51:24 PM
One thing that Trump bloviated about during the campaign that seemed like it might actually be a good thing for the country was a plan to refurbish its infrastructure. This is something that is really needed, and it would be a boost for the economy. More details about it are coming out, and it's becoming clear that Trump doesn't really want to "fix our inner cities and rebuild our highways, bridges, tunnels, airports, schools, hospitals" at all. Like just about everything else that comes out of his mouth, that was a lie.

Instead, what he wants to do is provide generous tax breaks for big construction companies for projects that generally will not have anything to do with highways, bridges, tunnels, airports, schools and hospitals. In other words, a nice fat boondoggle for corporate fat cats. So it goes.

"Trump Infrastructure Plan Busted For Being A Tax Cut Scam That Won’t Create Jobs" | PoliticsUSA (http://www.politicususa.com/2016/11/19/trump-infrastructure-plan-busted-tax-cut-scam-create-jobs.html)

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Donald Trump’s infrastructure plan that some Democrats said that they might be able to support is not an infrastructure bill at all. Trump’s plan is not to spend government money on job-creating projects but to give tax cuts to contractors and the construction sector.

[. . .]

. . . Trump’s plan isn’t really a jobs plan, either. Because the plan subsidizes investors, not projects; because it funds tax breaks, not bridges; because there’s no requirement that the projects be otherwise unfunded, there is simply no guarantee that the plan will produce any net new hiring. Investors may simply shift capital from unsubsidized projects to subsidized ones and pocket the tax breaks on projects they would have funded anyway. Contractors have no obligation to hire new workers, or expand workers’ hours, to collect their $85 billion. To their credit, the plan’s authors don’t call it a jobs plan; ironically, it is Democrats looking to align with Trump who have given it that name. They should not fool themselves.

[Continues . . . (http://www.politicususa.com/2016/11/19/trump-infrastructure-plan-busted-tax-cut-scam-create-jobs.html)]

Another story about this: "Trump’s infrastructure plan is just a windfall for Wall Street" | ThinkProgress (https://thinkprogress.org/trump-infrastructure-plan-3cd425323c76#.kaj7io4cq)

I'm not at all surprised at yet another revolting development as we move into the Trump era, but I'll admit I'm slightly disappointed.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Davin on November 23, 2016, 04:24:09 PM
I get that with some politicians, you can expect that a few of their campaign promises will not be followed through, I'd even expect it from Hillary. However, how many of Trump's promises are things he's actually going to work on? I mean, it would have been great if Trump "drained the swamp" and got rid of political corruption, but I doubted that he would do it and as expected, he has added to it rather than reduced it.

Now I just wonder how much Trump has to do (or rather not do), before the people that voted for him realize they made a huge mistake. I'm certain that some will never, but a good majority of them will hopefully figure it out over the next few years.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Ecurb Noselrub on November 23, 2016, 07:54:05 PM
Let's hope it's a one-term presidency and that Congress will restrain some of his insanity.  Hope, I say.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Bad Penny II on November 24, 2016, 12:05:07 PM
Now I just wonder how much Trump has to do (or rather not do), before the people that voted for him realize they made a huge mistake. I'm certain that some will never, but a good majority of them will hopefully figure it out over the next few years.

I don't think so, why would you think so?
A change of government results from a few percent changing sides.
Peoples aren't rational, they're partisan.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Pasta Chick on November 25, 2016, 03:00:38 PM
Now I just wonder how much Trump has to do (or rather not do), before the people that voted for him realize they made a huge mistake. I'm certain that some will never, but a good majority of them will hopefully figure it out over the next few years.

I don't think so, why would you think so?
A change of government results from a few percent changing sides.
Peoples aren't rational, they're partisan.

Yeah, I'm about 99% certain they're just going to blame Obama for all of it.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on November 25, 2016, 05:38:30 PM
Trump's Scottish walls (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/25/world/europe/donald-trump-scotland-wall.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur&_r=1) . . .

Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: xSilverPhinx on November 26, 2016, 12:22:59 PM
:rofl: Ow...

Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Recusant on November 29, 2016, 12:21:52 AM
A couple of articles on Trump's incessant lying, and how it perhaps has deeper significance than the usual political dishonesty we're used to.

First, some ideas on how the press could attempt to cope with and combat Trump's chronic lack of honesty.

"How to Deal With the Lies of Donald Trump: Guidelines for the Media" | The Atlantic (https://www.theatlantic.com/notes/2016/11/a-reflexive-liar-in-command-guidelines-for-the-media/508832/)

I think the main thing is the first: "Call out lies as lies, not 'claims.'" That is, stop legitimizing Trump's dishonesty by soft-pedalling it with euphemisms.

The other is an examination of that "deeper significance" I mentioned above.

"Trump’s lies have a purpose. They are an assault on democracy." | ThinkProgress (https://thinkprogress.org/when-everything-is-a-lie-power-is-the-only-truth-1e641751d150#.2rduhic41)

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All politicians lie. In a democracy, they usually tell lies to achieve a particular result: Maybe they want to conceal information that would damage their reputations, or take credit for something they had nothing to do with. Sometimes a falsehood can obstruct a piece of undesirable legislation, or facilitate the passage of a desirable one. But in each of these cases, a lie tends to be little more than a momentary deviation from the truth. It’s a brief sojourn outside the borders of our stable, shared reality.

Some political lies are more ambitious than that. Sometimes the goal isn’t to embroider reality as it currently exists, but to construct a new reality out of whole cloth.

[. . .]

President-elect Donald Trump does not create new realities. He tells lies that are seemingly random, frequently inconsistent, and often plainly ridiculous.

He says or tweets things on the record and then denies having ever said them. He contradicts documented fact and then disregards anyone who points out the inaccuracies. He even lies when he has no discernible reason to do so — and then turns around and tells another lie that flies in the face of the previous one.

[. . .]

It is tempting to suppose Trump built this phantasmagoria by accident — that it is the byproduct of an erratic, undisciplined, borderline pathological approach to dishonesty. But the president-elect should not be underestimated. His victories in both the Republican primary and the general election were stunning upsets, and he is now set to alter the course of world history. If he does not fully understand what he is doing, his advisers certainly do.

[. . .]

It is tempting to take solace in the belief that, if Trump cannot be taken literally, his extreme rhetoric might conceal a secret moderate streak. But that hope would be misplaced. Non-linear warfare is intrinsically authoritarian. The president-elect is speaking the language of dictators.

[Continues . . . (https://thinkprogress.org/when-everything-is-a-lie-power-is-the-only-truth-1e641751d150#.2rduhic41)]

Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Icarus on November 29, 2016, 01:35:58 AM
http://www.aol.com/article/news/2016/11/28/texas-elector-to-resign-instead-of-voting-for-donald-trump/21615810/ 
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Pasta Chick on November 29, 2016, 04:00:05 PM
http://www.aol.com/article/news/2016/11/28/texas-elector-to-resign-instead-of-voting-for-donald-trump/21615810/

I don't know if I'm impressed for him sticking to his convictions and being dignified enough to step aside rather than raising a Kim Davis style hissy fit... Or scared that the only reason he came to these conclusions is "I can't find it in scripture."

Although I would like it if he would share some of his scriptural findings (or lack thereof) with the foaming Evangelical masses who think this dude is a savior for some reason.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Recusant on November 29, 2016, 05:03:33 PM
. . . Although I would like it if he would share some of his scriptural findings (or lack thereof) with the foaming Evangelical masses who think this dude is a savior for some reason.

He goes into detail, citing the Bible, here (https://theblessedpath.com/2016/11/07/biblical-voting-in-the-age-of-trump/).
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Pasta Chick on November 29, 2016, 07:11:04 PM
. . . Although I would like it if he would share some of his scriptural findings (or lack thereof) with the foaming Evangelical masses who think this dude is a savior for some reason.

He goes into detail, citing the Bible, here (https://theblessedpath.com/2016/11/07/biblical-voting-in-the-age-of-trump/).

Ew. That was gross to read. I guess my feeble lady brains just can't comprehend such divinity.

But I do thank you for the insight.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Recusant on November 29, 2016, 07:24:56 PM
Heh, yes I probably should have mentioned that he relies almost exclusively on the Old Testament.  :bleh:
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Pasta Chick on November 29, 2016, 07:59:14 PM
Welp, I stand by my statement that it is admirable for him to admit he is unable to fulfill the duties of his office and step aside.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on November 29, 2016, 08:34:24 PM
Welp, I stand by my statement that it is admirable for him to admit he is unable to fulfill the duties of his office and step aside.

Good example for  Trunk. Trump to follow.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: existentialcrisis on December 07, 2016, 09:40:40 PM
I used to believe the adage that trump was a mindless buffoon. I am far from a Trump fan, but that couldn't be farther from the truth. He is extremely smart and played us all. I saw an episode with Bill Maher where he brought on a man who studied trump for 30 years.

Trump is a master at persuasion.

1. Confirmation bias: He puts names in front of adversaries to destroy them. Crooked Hillary. Then heartless Hillary. People had to choose if she was more crooked are heartless!! As soon as he said low energy Bush, Jeb was out the same week.

2. Master of illusion: His lies don't stick because he denies them. We want a strong leader that makes up facts, his own reality and does what he wants.

3. Vague, a floating target with policies he doesn't pin down. Nothing to attack because they aren't there.

As despicable as he may seem, he outsmarted America. Learn from him if you want to learn the art of persuasion.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Recusant on December 07, 2016, 11:07:58 PM
I used to believe the adage that trump was a mindless buffoon.

Not mindless, but a buffoon none the less.

I am far from a Trump fan, but that couldn't be farther from the truth. He is extremely smart and played us all. I saw an episode with Bill Maher where he brought on a man who studied trump for 30 years.

I think you're going too far here. He hasn't shown any convincing signs that he's "extremely smart." Probably somewhat above average intelligence, but not by much; I think a more apt description would be "clever."

Trump is a master at persuasion.

1. Confirmation bias: He puts names in front of adversaries to destroy them. Crooked Hillary. Then heartless Hillary. People had to choose if she was more crooked are heartless!! As soon as he said low energy Bush, Jeb was out the same week.

2. Master of illusion: His lies don't stick because he denies them. We want a strong leader that makes up facts, his own reality and does what he wants.

3. Vague, a floating target with policies he doesn't pin down. Nothing to attack because they aren't there.

As despicable as he may seem, he outsmarted America. Learn from him if you want to learn the art of persuasion.

He's a well-practiced con man who's honed his skills for decades, I wouldn't argue against that. There's a difference between "persuade" and "swindle," however.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Arturo on December 08, 2016, 05:10:17 AM
As despicable as he may seem, he outsmarted America. Learn from him if you want to learn the art of persuasion.

I wouldn't say learn from him to learn the art of persuasion. You would have to have something wrong with you to want to be like that man. I would say learn his tactics to know when you are being played however, and then counter it with your own strategy, if you have one. If not, run away, run very far away.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: existentialcrisis on December 08, 2016, 03:33:17 PM
As despicable as he may seem, he outsmarted America. Learn from him if you want to learn the art of persuasion.

You would have to have something wrong with you to want to be like that man.

It's human nature. Read the will to power. The human species is not much different from other animals in that we compete for resources and are hierarchical in nature.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Recusant on December 14, 2016, 03:08:56 AM
So much for the "anti-establishment" baloney that so many Trump voters swallowed whole. How much more establishment can you get than lifetime politicians, big money, big oil, and the military? Of course I'm talking about Trump's choices for his Cabinet. So it goes.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Recusant on December 14, 2016, 04:59:00 AM
On a lighter note: Trump has a newly opened hotel in the middle of Washington DC that he could be staying in right now, and the government is paying for offices to house his transition team in the city as well, but instead of using those offices, he's holding court in Trump Tower in New York City. So . . .

"New York should seize Trump Tower" | The Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/new-york-should-seize-trump-tower/2016/12/12/6dfdfc50-c0b2-11e6-897f-918837dae0ae_story.html?utm_term=.8769a5f25431)

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The challenges of securing this 58-story building in a high-density neighborhood will, by Inauguration Day alone, drain $35 million of local taxpayer money. Who knows the additional costs to commerce and property values?

The feds have thus far been stingy about footing the bill. Fortunately, I’ve come up with a solution that should warm the cockles of the president-elect’s heart: New York should use eminent domain to seize Trump Tower.

[. . .]

Eminent domain — the constitutionally enshrined government power to take private property in exchange for just compensation — was traditionally reserved for road-and-school-style public projects. But thanks to a 2005 Supreme Court ruling (https://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/04-108.ZO.html), perpetuating a line of earlier decisions, governments may now use this power to condemn property if they can devise virtually any use that better promotes “economic development” — kicking out poor people and building luxury condos, for example.

On both left and right, almost everyone hated that ruling.

But not Donald Trump.

Trump loves eminent domain, especially this ruling. He thinks it’s wonderful. And there’s no question why: Throughout his career, Trump has lobbied governments to seize properties from those who refuse to sell when he wants to build amusement parks, golf courses, office buildings and parking lots on their land. He believes expansive use of eminent domain is necessary to promote economic growth and “beautification,” and that it’s even a good deal for property owners who don’t want to sell.

“When eminent domain is used on somebody’s property, that person gets a fortune,” he has declared.

[. . .]

The city doesn’t need to prove that Trump Tower is derelict to declare it “blighted”; the mere fact that it’s hindering traffic, impeding commerce and draining the public fisc could be sufficient.

[Continues . . . (https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/new-york-should-seize-trump-tower/2016/12/12/6dfdfc50-c0b2-11e6-897f-918837dae0ae_story.html?utm_term=.1c6e0fa49ede)]

Related: "Trump Tower security is costing nearby businesses" | CNN (http://money.cnn.com/2016/12/12/smallbusiness/trump-tower-security-small-business/) << Page includes obnoxious CNN autoplay video

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The city surveyed 50 businesses in the shadow of the president-elect's home and found that 80% are losing business because of decreased foot traffic. Half describe the impact as severe.

Two-thirds of the businesses project lower revenues, and about a quarter are worried about making rent, according to a report Monday from Scott Stringer, the city comptroller. A quarter are considering pay cuts, and 12% are considering laying off workers, relocating or closing entirely.

The Secret Service and New York police have cordoned off the sidewalk in front of the tower, in midtown Manhattan, and set up barricades along nearby blocks.

Tourists and holiday shoppers have to navigate the extra security to get to stores, restaurants and bars. The neighborhood is typically mobbed by shoppers right before the holidays.

[Continues . . . (http://money.cnn.com/2016/12/12/smallbusiness/trump-tower-security-small-business/)]


Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Davin on December 14, 2016, 02:03:04 PM
Also, Trump now gets to inherit the most privacy invasive and powerful snooping tools of all time.

Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Davin on December 14, 2016, 03:39:08 PM
Also, while this is only a small sampling, I hope it's a feeling that most Trump voters are experiencing right now.

https://trumpgrets.tumblr.com/
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on December 14, 2016, 04:31:29 PM
Also, while this is only a small sampling, I hope it's a feeling that most Trump voters are experiencing right now.

https://trumpgrets.tumblr.com/

Just goes to emphasise that, "You're a special kind of stupid..." meme.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on December 14, 2016, 08:27:51 PM
http://www.thethinkingatheist.com/forum/Thread-The-Electoral-College

Linked the above in case any Americans here are interested in changing the electoral college system - presumably to prevent future Trumping.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Magdalena on December 14, 2016, 08:55:51 PM
http://www.thethinkingatheist.com/forum/Thread-The-Electoral-College

Linked the above in case any Americans here are interested in changing the electoral college system - presumably to prevent future Trumping.
I don't know...  :unsure:
I just watched this:  :worried:
Also, Trump now gets to inherit the most privacy invasive and powerful snooping tools of all time.

Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Bad Penny II on December 15, 2016, 01:24:44 PM
I can begin to imagine what the right would make of a left candidates connection with an evil Russian tyrant.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Davin on December 15, 2016, 06:13:57 PM
I can begin to imagine what the right would make of a left candidates connection with an evil Russian tyrant.
Well, just look at how a big a deal they made over pretty boring emails with nothing in them and then extrapolate.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Pasta Chick on December 15, 2016, 07:23:10 PM
Look at the deal they made of a blowjob that happened 20 years to someone else entirely.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Harmonie on December 16, 2016, 07:47:52 PM
There is a noticeable silence from the Republicans on my FB who went on and on and on about Hillary couldn't be trusted because of the emails. They talk up big storms about how scandalous and a threat to security that was, but then this happens, they have nothing to say. Funny.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Arturo on December 16, 2016, 11:52:39 PM
Is Trump the END of Politics?

Video that might explain to how we got to now.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Icarus on December 17, 2016, 03:01:01 AM
^ that is a six minute five second explanation of how and why we have our collective heads up our asses.  Not HAFers of course, but all those other knot heads who are blinded by the shit that is obscuring their vision.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Recusant on December 17, 2016, 03:58:57 AM
Not buying it. Political competition has been a form of spectacle for a very long time. In early 19th century United States, political parties owned newspapers that put out all sorts of lurid stories about opposing politicians. One of the most famous examples of this is the story of Sally Hemmings (https://www.monticello.org/site/plantation-and-slavery/thomas-jefferson-and-sally-hemings-brief-account), but such tactics were the norm during that era. Editors of these political newspapers even fought duels when the mudslinging got really hot.

Modern forms of communication have allowed this aspect of politics to be more immediate and perhaps more prevalent, but the video tries to make it seem like something fundamental has changed with the advent of modern media. To do this, it contrasts modern politics with ideals from ancient Greece. That's skipping a lot of the development of how politics operate.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: xSilverPhinx on January 10, 2017, 04:41:42 PM
Twitter Parody Account Shows What A Grown-Up Trump Would Sound Like (https://www.good.is/articles/non-infantile-trump-twitter?utm_content=inf_10_81_2&utm_source=TSE&utm_medium=FB&utm_campaign=pd&tse_id=INF_65f54710d45911e6a03c354c456e1db2)

Not in a million years.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Recusant on January 10, 2017, 05:25:04 PM
That's superb! Thank you for posting it, xSilverPhinx. I especially like the avatar.

Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Pasta Chick on January 10, 2017, 05:26:05 PM
I've been thinking about his Twitter account a lot lately. It's often cited as a ploy to draw attention from other issues, but I'm not throughly convinced this is the case - I do not believe Trump is as smart as many give him credit for. i don't think he uses it as a distraction as much as for gaslighting.

The case is often made that we should ignore his social media accounts entirely but I don't think that's the solution either way. Regardless of his intent in using them, the things he says as grossly inappropriate and should not be normalized by ignoring them. "Oh yeah, he just does that and we don't bother with it" is not a step toward anything good.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: xSilverPhinx on January 10, 2017, 09:27:05 PM
That's superb! Thank you for posting it, xSilverPhinx. I especially like the avatar.

:grin: Yes, the mature Trump's avatar looks more real than the real one's!
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Recusant on January 11, 2017, 01:34:38 AM
Trump has been courting the anti-vaccine crowd for a while now.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C11XTIoXAAElaDm.jpg)

Just to be clear: the claim of a link between vaccination and autism has been completely debunked, and was debunked long before Trump tweeted the drivel above.

Today, Trump met with the vaccine conspiracy promoter Robert Kennedy Jr., and it appears he's going to appoint Kennedy to head a new "commission on vaccine safety."  :puke:

"The truth about vaccines, autism and Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s conspiracy theory" | The Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/2017/01/10/the-facts-about-vaccines-autism-and-robert-f-kennedy-jr-s-conspiracy-theory/?utm_term=.957449472fbb)

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Soon after news of Kennedy's appointment broke, the AAP issued a statement from its president, Fernando Stein, and vice president, Karen Remley, affirming the “safety and importance of vaccines.” They emphasized the risks of delaying vaccinations, something that Trump said he was in favor of during a 2015 Republican primary debate. “I want smaller doses over a longer period of time,” Trump said.

The AAP's response was blunt: “Vaccines are safe. Vaccines are effective. Vaccines save lives,” Stein and Remley wrote. “We stand ready to work with the White House and the federal government to share the extensive scientific evidence demonstrating the safety of vaccines, including the recommended schedule.” The real danger, they point out, lies in refusing or delaying vaccines.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Pasta Chick on January 11, 2017, 01:40:37 AM
OMFG, these fucking people...

"VACCINES ARE TOO BIG, NOT SO MUCH AT ONCE!"

*Doctors spread out vaccine scheudle*

"MY CHILD SHOULDNT NEED VACCINES EVERY 2 WEEKS THIS IS TOO FREQUENT!"
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Firebird on January 11, 2017, 04:01:18 AM
I was so fucking pissed about this. Great, put my kid at risk before she's fully inoculated because you want to validate these idiots. We must look so stupid to the rest of the world.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Recusant on January 11, 2017, 06:19:41 AM
It will come as no surprise (given the constant stream of double-talk/contradictory statements that has characterized Trump and his top aides since long before he was elected) that one of his mouthpieces has said "no decisions have been made."

"Trump team denies new vaccination commission after Kennedy claims post" | The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/10/vaccination-safety-robert-kennedy-jr-chair-commission-trump)

I really don't think there will ever come a time in the Trump presidency when it will be possible to trust things coming out of the White House. It seems likely to me that Trump told Kennedy one thing, then his crew of "the best people" decided to put an alternate spin on it, and talked him into agreeing with that. It's going to be years of variation on the theme of "What the Everloving Fuck?!?"
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Davin on January 11, 2017, 01:48:08 PM
Trump has been lying for decades, he lied his ass off through out his campaign and was successful, so I highly doubt that he'll stop lying after he's sworn in. I mean, you don't stop a child from kicking people in the shins by giving them cookies after they do it.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on January 11, 2017, 02:28:27 PM
Trump has been lying for decades, he lied his ass off through out his campaign and was successful, so I highly doubt that he'll stop lying after he's sworn in. I mean, you don't stop a child from kicking people in the shins by giving them cookies after they do it.
You do if the cookies have cyanide in them . . .

 :devil:
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Firebird on January 11, 2017, 03:33:26 PM
Things just got way more interesting. Buzzfeed released some secret intelligence memos containing uncorroborated evidence of pretty serious shit that Trump is alleged to have done:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/10/us/politics/donald-trump-russia-intelligence.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=a-lede-package-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/10/us/politics/donald-trump-russia-intelligence.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=a-lede-package-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news)


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The memos describe sex videos involving prostitutes with Mr. Trump in a 2013 visit to a Moscow hotel. The videos were supposedly prepared as “kompromat,” or compromising material, with the possible goal of blackmailing Mr. Trump in the future.

The memos also suggest that Russian officials proposed various lucrative deals, essentially as disguised bribes in order to win influence over Mr. Trump.

The memos describe several purported meetings during the 2016 presidential campaign between Trump representatives and Russian officials to discuss matters of mutual interest, including the Russian hacking of the Democratic National Committee and Mrs. Clinton’s campaign chairman, John D. Podesta.

If some of the unproven claims in the memos are merely titillating, others would amount to extremely serious, potentially treasonous acts.

One of the opposition research memos quotes an unidentified Russian source as claiming that the hacking and leaking of Democratic emails was carried out “with the full knowledge and support of TRUMP and senior members of his campaign team.” In return, the memo said, “the TRUMP team had agreed to sideline Russian intervention in Ukraine as a campaign issue” because Mr. Putin “needed to cauterize the subject.”

Again, all unverified and uncorroborated, so as far as journalistic standards go, releasing this was pretty unethical. But considering all the unethical stuff already committed against Clinton, like the Comey letter and the hacking by the Russians and other fake news that Trump spread, can't help feeling some  schadenfreude. Also, if any of this is true, it's really, really bad.

Anyone still gonna bitch about Clinton's emails now?
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Recusant on January 11, 2017, 03:34:38 PM
You know they are.

Anyway, while this is entertaining, after reading through some of the document (it's highlighted in yellow, which ties right in with the "golden showers" angle) I have doubts that it's presenting genuine information.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Pasta Chick on January 11, 2017, 04:02:25 PM
I also seriously doubt the validity, but it's pissing Trump off and the puns just write themselves so really what's to lose?

Also, I enjoy the idea of it being exposed as fake, Trump fans yelling about how it is fake and we should stop, and just saying "yeah, we know" and continuing to do it anyway.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Davin on January 11, 2017, 04:24:59 PM
^ :lol: maybe we fight crazy with crazy?



Where there's smoke, there's fire, amiright?

This stuff doesn't just come up out of nowhere, there has to be something to it.

If he doesn't have ties to Russia, he should release his tax records.

etc.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Firebird on January 11, 2017, 04:30:24 PM
^ :lol: maybe we fight crazy with crazy?

At this point, why not? Unfortunately the public doesn't seem to care if you're the "better person". I'm not saying we should go around pushing every bit of fakery or unsubstantiated rumor, but calling for Trump to release his tax returns now is a good start. Also, if the Democrats refuse to confirm a single one of his Supreme Court nominees after the GOP stole Obama's pick, I'd have no problem with that anymore. If they're going to act like fascists, then they deserve no respect.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Pasta Chick on January 11, 2017, 06:42:35 PM
I mean...

Was it on HAF someone made a point about the pizza shop shooter? That it's kinda fucked up that if all these people really, honestly believe that Hilary is running a sex slave ring out of a pizza shop, only one person actually tried to do a damn thing about it. Which means most of them don't actually believe it.

And then on Facebook just now, I saw someone make the excellent point that while virtually everyone is questioning the authenticity of the reports because of how they were released, no one is actually questioning whether Trump actually did any of this. It's all totally plausible. It's not like the "Obama death panels" where right off the bat you're thinking "yeah, that sounds made up." That in itself is a problem.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Recusant on January 11, 2017, 07:06:37 PM
There's an interesting piece on FiveThirtyEight in which they speculate that vaccination might become politicized because of Trump's yapping about it. They describe the way that people's views of climate science have diverged along political lines since the 90s, a time when both Republicans and Democrats had similar views. Of course the climate denier line of baloney was largely funded by fossil fuel interests, while there is no big source of funding for the anti-vaccination crowd, and the pharmaceutical industry has plenty of cash to put into countering the anti-vaxxers. Will politics alone drive a change in views among Republicans? I don't think so, but it will be something to watch.

"Will Trump Make Vaccines Another Partisan Issue?" | FiveThirtyEight (https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/will-vaccines-become-another-partisan-issue/)

I came across that while I was reading a piece there (https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/police-officers-say-scrutiny-of-police-killings-has-made-their-job-tougher/) about a Pew survey in which police say that their jobs are harder because of the scrutiny over killing unarmed black people (oh dear!). That's not particularly on topic in this thread, though.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Davin on January 11, 2017, 08:07:59 PM
It's crazy how these things become political issues. They're not political things, they are scientific things. It's a bit frustrating.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on January 11, 2017, 08:18:46 PM
It's crazy how these things become political issues. They're not political things, they are scientific things. It's a bit frustrating.

Rather than crazy I think it is sad.

Health, education - things with importance beyond easy measure become the balls our fucking stupid politicians use to play their infantile games.

Those who believe a politician,  any politician, have only themselves to blame when their arse gets bitten. A politician's word is only as good as his or her action - I believe them when they do it right, not until.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Harmonie on January 11, 2017, 10:28:40 PM
It's crazy how these things become political issues. They're not political things, they are scientific things. It's a bit frustrating.

Nearly everything that the Republicans and Religious Right bring up as "issues" are all lies and what they're fighting for is hurtful to so many people. It baffles me that these groups have so much power when their positions are so blatantly wrong.

Everything about "President" Trump and a Republican/Religious Right controlled government is scaring me half to death. I can't even calm down because everywhere you turn it just gets worse and worse. I thought the Bush years were bad, I had no idea.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Recusant on January 12, 2017, 04:04:28 AM
I thought about creating a separate thread for this article, but I don't know how many will bother to read a long exposition on the history of the presidency of the US and how Trump may fit into it, so I'll just put it here. It's got an intriguing title, anyway.  ;)

The Politics Trump Makes: Is Trump, like Carter, a Disjunctive President? | New Left Review (https://nplusonemag.com/online-only/online-only/the-politics-trump-makes/)

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The interregnum between Trump’s election and his inauguration has occasioned a fever dream of authoritarianism—a procession of nightmares from faraway lands and distant times, from Hitler and Mussolini to Putin and Erdogan. But what if Trump’s antecedents are more prosaic, the historical analogies nearer to hand? What if the best clues to the Trump presidency are to be found in that most un-Trump-like of figures: Jimmy Carter?

Journalists and pundits often fixate on a President’s personality and psychology, as if the office were born anew with each election. They ignore the structural factors that shape the Presidency. Yet every President is elected to represent a combination of ideologies, policies, and coalitions. That is the President’s political identity: Lincoln brought to power a Republican Party committed to free labor ideals and the overthrow of the slavocracy; Reagan, a Republican Party committed to aggressive free-market capitalism and the overthrow of the New Deal.

Every President also inherits a political situation in which certain ideologies and interests dominate. That situation, or regime, shapes a President’s exercise of power, forcing some to do less, empowering others to do more. Richard Nixon was not a New Deal Democrat, but he was constrained by the political common sense of his time to govern like one, just as Bill Clinton had to bow to the hegemony of Reaganism. Regimes are deep and intractable structures of interest and belief, setting out the boundaries of action, shaping our sense of the possible, over a period of decades.

Every President is aligned with or opposed to the regime. Every regime is weak or strong. These two vectors—the political affiliation of the President, the vitality of the regime—shape “the politics Presidents make.” That phrase is the title of Yale political scientist Stephen Skowronek’s classic study of the presidency, which, when it appeared in 1993, completely altered how political scientists understand the institution and its possibilities.

[Continues . . . (https://nplusonemag.com/online-only/online-only/the-politics-trump-makes/)]
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Davin on January 12, 2017, 02:26:21 PM
It does feel like the government is as corrupt and against the public as the ones in the 70's and 80's.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Bad Penny II on January 12, 2017, 02:46:42 PM
It does feel like the government is as corrupt and against the public as the ones in the 70's and 80's.

I thought there was a pattern of worsening.
This is worse than that has become before.
It incentiveises the next to be worse still.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Ecurb Noselrub on January 12, 2017, 04:12:47 PM
It does feel like the government is as corrupt and against the public as the ones in the 70's and 80's.

I thought there was a pattern of worsening.
This is worse than that has become before.
It incentiveises the next to be worse still.

This certainly has the potential to be worse.   Mr Trump is dangerous.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Davin on January 12, 2017, 05:14:19 PM
It does feel like the government is as corrupt and against the public as the ones in the 70's and 80's.

I thought there was a pattern of worsening.
This is worse than that has become before.
It incentiveises the next to be worse still.

This certainly has the potential to be worse.   Mr Trump is dangerous.
It's not just Trump, it's a bunch of the others that got elected as well. If Trump were elected and the rest of the government were fine, I wouldn't worry too much. But now we have these Representatives getting rid of the power of ethics oversight, people that want to take our privacy under the guise of public safety, while trying to keep what they do for the public, private. It's not just Trump, it's the government as a whole right now that we have to worry about.

And for the ultimate sadness, the people that voted those people in, voted them in for exact opposite reasons. I.E.: most voted "for a smaller government" and are getting a bigger, more imposing one for it.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on January 12, 2017, 06:04:49 PM
The Trump badmouths the US security agencies, then his nominees for defence and the CIA give them plaudits.

Crazy!
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Recusant on January 13, 2017, 01:32:34 AM
Hearkening back to the OP of this thread: "Donald Trump treats the press like an authoritarian thug" | The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jan/12/donald-trump-press-conference-cnn-journalist-acosta)

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Trump’s first press conference since July made plenty of news. He acknowledged Russia’s role in the Democratic National Committee hack for the first time, elaborately sidestepped traditional conflict-of-interest rules and announced a new cabinet nomination. Yet the most shocking moments came not with policy pronouncements, but in his handling of the assembled media itself.

His pointed, public attacks on journalists during the press conference were a tactic ripped from the playbook of authoritarian regimes around the world. Their goal is to discredit the media and undermine journalists’ ability to play their crucial role in holding government accountable.

The conference began with Trump press secretary-designate Sean Spicer deriding as “outrageous and highly irresponsible” Buzzfeed’s decision to publish an uncorroborated dossier alleging, among other things, Russian interference involving the president-elect and top campaign aides.

Spicer also impugned as “pathetic” and “sad” CNN, which declined to publish the dossier but ran a more general story indicating that US intelligence agencies had conveyed to Trump and to President Barack Obama reports of the Russian government holding compromising information about Trump.

Trump and his team were well within their rights to vociferously and even angrily rebut unverified reports that were highly damaging to the president-elect. But they didn’t stop there. Once Trump took the podium, CNN reporter Jim Acosta made persistent attempts to ask a question, calling out that having been attacked by name, the network ought to have the right to pose a query.

Trump spurned Acosta menacingly, saying “not you,” “your organization is terrible,” and “you are fake news.” He referred to Buzzfeed as a “failing pile of garbage.” Acosta reports that he was then told by Spicer that if he tried again to ask a question he would be thrown out of the press conference.

[Continues . . . (https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jan/12/donald-trump-press-conference-cnn-journalist-acosta)]
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on January 13, 2017, 09:03:41 AM
Well, ins't that a surprise  :sadshake:
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Tom62 on January 18, 2017, 10:52:48 PM
New species of moth named for Trump, thanks to 'yellowish' mop (http://www.foxnews.com/science/2017/01/18/new-species-moth-named-for-trump-thanks-to-yellowish-mop.html)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Recusant on January 18, 2017, 11:13:13 PM
^  ^ Heh.



Quote
Trump's cabinet picks appear to be interested in their respective departments in the same way that kamikaze pilots are interested in planes.

-- John Dingell, via Twitter
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: xSilverPhinx on January 22, 2017, 01:51:07 PM
Blonde-Haired Moth With Small Genitals Named After Donald Trump (http://www.iflscience.com/plants-and-animals/blondehaired-moth-with-small-genitals-named-after-donald-trump/)

 :rofl:
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Asmodean on January 22, 2017, 02:11:33 PM
...And by genitals, you mean hands, right? And by hands you mean penis, yes?  ;D
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: xSilverPhinx on January 22, 2017, 02:21:32 PM
...And by genitals, you mean hands, right? And by hands you mean penis, yes?  ;D

That's what they say!  ;D
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Asmodean on January 22, 2017, 03:51:34 PM
...And by genitals, you mean hands, right? And by hands you mean penis, yes?  ;D

That's what they say!  ;D
Why, yes. Yes, they do. The Asmo doesn't know, but He's been hearing that they did indeed say that.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Recusant on January 22, 2017, 05:58:57 PM
Whatever you do, don't call it lying. It's just the use of alternative facts (http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/315527-conway-spicer-used-alternative-facts-in-press-briefing).

Don't believe your lying eyes.

(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FFnyDamY.jpg&hash=59ee73479fc0455f0c94ab407ed11d073c4f2658)
2009 Inauguration Image Credit: Jewel Samad / AP


(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FbIyonX3.png&hash=61b3e0ae8100449ebb48b1ee6eb8bdf5ef7de704)
2017 Inauguration YouTube Screengrab

(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F5J4fCLp.jpg&hash=994d293496461d0093e2ac972517a96eb6eb56be)
Side by side comparison Image Credit: Javier Zarracina
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on January 22, 2017, 06:06:12 PM
From what the BBC are reporting about Trump's media hatred this is going to be a personal and ego driven aspect of his presidency.

They say they will jump on any "untrue" reporting. Now, just who is going to define "'untrue"? I very much hope the media play it straight but do not turn away from exposing everything that they can back up with reluable evidence.

Wondering just what Trump can do anyway, is the POTUS allowed to open civil cases against those who oppose him? Or will he establish some kind of "legal protection company" that can operate in defence of him.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on January 22, 2017, 06:07:35 PM
Whatever you do, don't call it lying. It's just the use of alternative facts (http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/315527-conway-spicer-used-alternative-facts-in-press-briefing).

Don't believe your lying eyes.

(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FFnyDamY.jpg&hash=59ee73479fc0455f0c94ab407ed11d073c4f2658)
2009 Inauguration Image Credit: Jewel Samad / AP


(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FbIyonX3.png&hash=61b3e0ae8100449ebb48b1ee6eb8bdf5ef7de704)
2017 Inauguration YouTube Screengrab

(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F5J4fCLp.jpg&hash=994d293496461d0093e2ac972517a96eb6eb56be)
Side by side comparison Image Credit: Javier Zarracina

Looks pretty convincing to me.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Papasito Bruno on January 23, 2017, 06:11:52 PM
This has been making the rounds on social media among Christian Conservatives who feel as if this is actually a reality. Seriously it's one of the most depressing images I've seen lately among a hoard of depressing images merely for the fact that there are folks out there who embrace this as not only a reality, but inspirational image.

Almost want to hide it here so as to not trigger anyone.

(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FJ9G1p3X.jpg&hash=11d1309aeb7a80e231ba87177fc9ac1a3f923d66)


P.s. Plus someone with some decent talent painted this, what a waste.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on January 23, 2017, 06:21:45 PM
(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi778.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fyy67%2FDaveGlos%2FFunnies%2F2017-01-23%252018.19.54.jpg&hash=ca92edada0cde82f21b4b8d68cf8d51337582c27) (http://s778.photobucket.com/user/DaveGlos/media/Funnies/2017-01-23%2018.19.54.jpg.html)

There, fixt it.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Papasito Bruno on January 23, 2017, 06:30:15 PM
(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi778.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fyy67%2FDaveGlos%2FFunnies%2F2017-01-23%252018.19.54.jpg&hash=ca92edada0cde82f21b4b8d68cf8d51337582c27) (http://s778.photobucket.com/user/DaveGlos/media/Funnies/2017-01-23%2018.19.54.jpg.html)

There, fixt it.

Very nice work sir, very nice indeed....and please forgive my impertinence, butt shouldn't they both have horns? (I imagine like everything else about him  Trumps will be tiny)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Arturo on January 23, 2017, 06:48:00 PM
Trump still getting it from behind even though he's President now XD
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Pasta Chick on January 23, 2017, 08:53:27 PM
Someone turn that into a "Jesus is a jerk" meme immediately plz
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Recusant on January 24, 2017, 07:00:08 PM
(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FeUa3O5A.jpg&hash=886c793d23f68ead72d50e7086db18d824ed5d9f)

The Nightmare by Mark Bryan
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Papasito Bruno on January 24, 2017, 07:06:05 PM
That's well done, and how befitting and relevant to this whole fiasco, it's pegged Trump perfectly, the Twitter in one arm, the nukes in another. The "Nightmare" is aptly titled.

Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on January 24, 2017, 07:18:06 PM
Yes, that deserves to become a classic!

It has been said that Trump is not a politician. Perhaps ideology is one of the worst aspects of  politics and I think Trump is something of an ideologist. Yet an unstable one?
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: xSilverPhinx on January 25, 2017, 12:13:16 AM
(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FeUa3O5A.jpg&hash=886c793d23f68ead72d50e7086db18d824ed5d9f)

The Nightmare by Mark Bryan

Urgh. Revolting.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Recusant on January 25, 2017, 12:27:04 AM
 A pleasing picture it ain't, I agree. I like how there is one arm that we can't see. No idea what's going on with it.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: xSilverPhinx on January 25, 2017, 12:33:40 AM
A pleasing picture it ain't, I agree. I like how there is one arm that we can't see. No idea what's going on with it.

Such a thing should not be left to the imagination! :lol:
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Icarus on January 25, 2017, 12:50:55 AM
That pic cause me to have nightmares while fully awake.   Ghastly!
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Recusant on January 25, 2017, 02:12:16 AM
News juxtaposition: "Trump clears way for controversial oil pipelines" | Reuters (January 24, 2017) (http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-pipeline-idUSKBN15820N)

"Pipeline historian unsurprised by Sask. oil spill" | CBC (January 24, 2017) (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/sean-kheraj-boil-spill-saskatchewan-1.3950568)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on January 25, 2017, 08:15:09 AM
A pleasing picture it ain't, I agree. I like how there is one arm that we can't see. No idea what's going on with it.

Up his own arse?
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Recusant on January 25, 2017, 04:25:49 PM
While the Trump administration has begun muzzling governmental agencies that exist, at least in part, to protect the natural environment, let's not forget that Donald Trump has said that he's "received many, many environmental awards." (http://www.baltimoresun.com/bal-trump-blasts-de-niro-hes-not-the-brightest-bulb-on-the-planet-20110425-story.html) He's made that claim repeatedly.

It's a lie.  "Trump’s unsupported claim he has ‘received awards on the environment’" | Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2017/01/24/trumps-unsupported-claim-he-has-received-awards-on-the-environment/?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_fact-checker-745a%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.d2a7160e1a73)

Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on January 25, 2017, 04:38:21 PM
While the Trump administration has begun muzzling governmental agencies that exist, at least in part, to protect the natural environment, let's not forget that Donald Trump has said that he's "received many, many environmental awards." (http://www.baltimoresun.com/bal-trump-blasts-de-niro-hes-not-the-brightest-bulb-on-the-planet-20110425-story.html) He's made that claim repeatedly.

It's a lie.  "Trump’s unsupported claim he has ‘received awards on the environment’" | Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2017/01/24/trumps-unsupported-claim-he-has-received-awards-on-the-environment/?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_fact-checker-745a%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.d2a7160e1a73)

Good link in that article to a whole list (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/03/22/all-of-donald-trumps-four-pinocchio-ratings-in-one-place/?tid=a_inl&utm_term=.ed3a60bfafe7) of Pinocchio awards.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Pasta Chick on January 25, 2017, 05:35:53 PM
At what point does he become impeachable?
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Davin on January 25, 2017, 06:19:32 PM
Let's see if the company he just so happens to choose to build the wall is a company he has a vested interest in.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Firebird on January 25, 2017, 07:00:05 PM
At what point does he become impeachable?

Probably now. In reality? Probably only when the Democrats have the House.
Speaking of which: https://swingleft.org/
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Davin on January 25, 2017, 07:07:07 PM
At what point does he become impeachable?

Probably now. In reality? Probably only when the Democrats have the House.
Speaking of which: https://swingleft.org/
And even then, we get Mike Pence. Though I don't like Pence, I think he would be better than Trump. Maybe we could make it a truly historical event and impeach them both.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Recusant on January 25, 2017, 08:30:40 PM
It looks as if Steve Bannon (Trump Chief Strategist) is registered to vote in two states, as is Trump's daughter Tiffany (source (http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/01/steve-bannon-is-registered-to-vote-in-two-states.html)). According to Trump's tweets, that's "VOTER FRAUD."

Quote
I will be asking for a major investigation into VOTER FRAUD, including those registered to vote in two states, those who are illegal and....
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on January 25, 2017, 09:16:12 PM
It looks as if Steve Bannon (Trump Chief Strategist) is registered to vote in two states, as is Trump's daughter Tiffany (source (http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/01/steve-bannon-is-registered-to-vote-in-two-states.html)). According to Trump's tweets, that's "VOTER FRAUD."

Quote
I will be asking for a major investigation into VOTER FRAUD, including those registered to vote in two states, those who are illegal and....

Of course, in their cases it will be an innocent administrative error that caused it to happen . . .
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: xSilverPhinx on January 26, 2017, 12:01:41 AM
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Icarus on January 26, 2017, 12:53:26 AM
  ^ I'd think this really funny if the situation were not so serious.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Firebird on January 26, 2017, 06:18:59 AM
And now he wants to reinstate torture and the CIA prisons, has started banning some Muslims, reinstated the "gag rule" against funding women's organizations that talk about abortion, and is killing net neutrality.
Man, I  can't even sleep right now because  I'm so angry.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on January 26, 2017, 06:29:52 AM
And now he wants to reinstate torture and the CIA prisons, has started banning some Muslims, reinstated the "gag rule" against funding women's organizations that talk about abortion, and is killing net neutrality.
Man, I  can't even sleep right now because  I'm so angry.

Seems he is now going to discuss torture with his pet general, who is against it, and will also be talking to his new CIA chief.

Quote
As any military expert could tell Trump, torture only increases the danger that soldiers face. It produces false intelligence, increases the risk that captured soldiers will themselves be tortured, and undermines discipline and moral authority.
http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/trumps-dangerous-fantasies-about-torture
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Davin on January 26, 2017, 01:34:48 PM
I'm a bit worried about the Third Lady, this looks like a cry for help.
(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F6HAfDbQ.gif&hash=ea4ca59fa765958b64597c882942373f8e91fc16)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Davin on January 26, 2017, 01:38:05 PM
And now he wants to reinstate torture and the CIA prisons, has started banning some Muslims, reinstated the "gag rule" against funding women's organizations that talk about abortion, and is killing net neutrality.
Man, I  can't even sleep right now because  I'm so angry.

Seems he is now going to discuss torture with his pet general, who is against it, and will also be talking to his new CIA chief.

Quote
As any military expert could tell Trump, torture only increases the danger that soldiers face. It produces false intelligence, increases the risk that captured soldiers will themselves be tortured, and undermines discipline and moral authority.
http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/trumps-dangerous-fantasies-about-torture
Also, don't forget he's probably going to lift the ban on blacksites, https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/25/us/politics/cia-detainee-prisons.html?_r=0

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WASHINGTON — The Trump administration is preparing a sweeping executive order that would clear the way for the C.I.A. to reopen overseas “black site” prisons, like those where it detained and tortured terrorism suspects before former President Barack Obama shut them down.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on January 26, 2017, 05:35:41 PM
Seems like the President of Mexico will not be visiting Trump next week.

Seems Trump tweeted that it was not worth him coming if he would not pay for the wall.

Seems that Diplomacy by Tweet is becoming standard.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Papasito Bruno on January 26, 2017, 07:07:11 PM
The following photo was leaked from "Area 51" where Trump has orders thousand upon thousands of acres of his "ridiculous hairpiece" to be grown using some new special growth formula. Apparently all supporters/followers of Trump will be forced to wear these in support of Der Furrier. 



Spoiler: ShowHide
(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F4y2Jxwn.jpg&hash=f43c2d6c6338fc3b18dddf9097bb21d75f0c859d)

This is actually "Prairie Dropseed" (Sporobolus heterolepis) which grows throughout badlands here in the US.


Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Firebird on January 26, 2017, 07:50:47 PM
The following photo was leaked from "Area 51" where Trump has orders thousand upon thousands of acres of his "ridiculous hairpiece" to be grown using some new special growth formula. Apparently all supporters/followers of Trump will be forced to wear these in support of Der Furrier. 



Spoiler: ShowHide
(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F4y2Jxwn.jpg&hash=f43c2d6c6338fc3b18dddf9097bb21d75f0c859d)

This is actually "Prairie Dropseed" (Sporobolus heterolepis) which grows throughout badlands here in the US.


 :rofl:
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: xSilverPhinx on January 26, 2017, 11:53:01 PM
I'm a bit worried about the Third Lady, this looks like a cry for help.
(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F6HAfDbQ.gif&hash=ea4ca59fa765958b64597c882942373f8e91fc16)

Poor woman, I feel sorry for her.

(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/PleasingShockedAmurstarfish-size_restricted.gif)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Recusant on January 27, 2017, 03:44:45 AM
Alex Jones (InfoWars) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Jones_(radio_host)) says that the Trump administration has offered him press credentials (http://mediamatters.org/video/2017/01/26/alex-jones-says-infowars-has-been-invited-trump-s-white-house-press-briefings/215136) to attend White House press briefings. I think I see where this is going.

Trump said that since the press didn't like the idea of being kicked out of the White House, he's not going to do that. Instead, rather than the current longstanding arrangement in which the White House Correspondents' Association decides who gets a seat in the briefing room, Trump has said,

Quote
We have so many people that want to go in so we'll have to just have to pick the people to go into the room – I'm sure other people will be thrilled about that. But we offered a much larger room because we need a much larger room and we offered to do that, but they went crazy.

"Trump Won’t Remove Press From White House, But Says He Will Pick Who Gets In" | US News & World Report (http://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2017-01-18/trump-wont-remove-press-from-white-house-but-says-he-will-pick-who-gets-in)

At his first press conference as president, Trump brought members of his staff into the room (http://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/trump-press-conference-paid-staffers-media-233496) to applaud and cheer him while he sneered at the gathered press and attempted to browbeat particular reporters. It looks to me like he's planning on marginalizing the established press that doesn't kowtow to him and replacing many of their reporters with clowns like Alex Jones.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Firebird on January 27, 2017, 04:13:14 AM
Alex Jones (InfoWars) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Jones_(radio_host)) says that the Trump administration has offered him press credentials (http://mediamatters.org/video/2017/01/26/alex-jones-says-infowars-has-been-invited-trump-s-white-house-press-briefings/215136) to attend White House press briefings. I think I see where this is going.

Trump said that since the press didn't like the idea of being kicked out of the White House, he's not going to do that. Instead, rather than the current longstanding arrangement in which the White House Correspondents' Association decides who gets a seat in the briefing room, Trump has said,

Quote
We have so many people that want to go in so we'll have to just have to pick the people to go into the room – I'm sure other people will be thrilled about that. But we offered a much larger room because we need a much larger room and we offered to do that, but they went crazy.

"Trump Won’t Remove Press From White House, But Says He Will Pick Who Gets In" | US News & World Report (http://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2017-01-18/trump-wont-remove-press-from-white-house-but-says-he-will-pick-who-gets-in)

At his first press conference as president, Trump brought members of his staff into the room (http://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/trump-press-conference-paid-staffers-media-233496) to applaud and cheer him while he sneered at the gathered press and attempted to browbeat particular reporters. It looks to me like he's planning on marginalizing the established press that doesn't kowtow to him and replacing many of their reporters with clowns like Alex Jones.

If that happens, then they shouldn't bother covering his news conferences any more. At that point, it's just making a mockery of journalism.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Recusant on January 27, 2017, 04:49:45 AM
I'm probably reading too much into it. It's obvious that Trump is really enjoying the fact that his position lets him lord it over the press. If he didn't have some of the "opposition party" (https://www.rawstory.com/2017/01/steve-bannon-news-media-needs-to-keep-its-mouth-shut-and-respect-trump/) in the room, it wouldn't be as much fun for him.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on January 27, 2017, 08:20:54 AM
Alex Jones (InfoWars) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Jones_(radio_host)) says that the Trump administration has offered him press credentials (http://mediamatters.org/video/2017/01/26/alex-jones-says-infowars-has-been-invited-trump-s-white-house-press-briefings/215136) to attend White House press briefings. I think I see where this is going.

Trump said that since the press didn't like the idea of being kicked out of the White House, he's not going to do that. Instead, rather than the current longstanding arrangement in which the White House Correspondents' Association decides who gets a seat in the briefing room, Trump has said,

Quote
We have so many people that want to go in so we'll have to just have to pick the people to go into the room – I'm sure other people will be thrilled about that. But we offered a much larger room because we need a much larger room and we offered to do that, but they went crazy.

"Trump Won’t Remove Press From White House, But Says He Will Pick Who Gets In" | US News & World Report (http://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2017-01-18/trump-wont-remove-press-from-white-house-but-says-he-will-pick-who-gets-in)

At his first press conference as president, Trump brought members of his staff into the room (http://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/trump-press-conference-paid-staffers-media-233496) to applaud and cheer him while he sneered at the gathered press and attempted to browbeat particular reporters. It looks to me like he's planning on marginalizing the established press that doesn't kowtow to him and replacing many of their reporters with clowns like Alex Jones.

This is getting more and more like a dystopian future-fiction novel.

Read several,Trump is finding ideas even some good authors never dreamed up!
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on January 27, 2017, 08:27:03 AM
I'm probably reading too much into it. It's obvious that Trump is really enjoying the fact that his position lets him lord it over the press. If he didn't have some of the "opposition party" (https://www.rawstory.com/2017/01/steve-bannon-news-media-needs-to-keep-its-mouth-shut-and-respect-trump/) in the room, it wouldn't be as much fun for him.

Well, perhaps the "opposition" should simply stop reporting him as a person. Just comment on the published policy documents and report things like, "-The President spoke on . . .", bare facts only.

He craves publicity, take as much away from him, personaly, as possible - treat him like a talking head.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Papasito Bruno on January 27, 2017, 03:41:57 PM
These seem particularly fitting at the moment.

(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fqix8CML.jpg&hash=2b8a9b1d87c75df51f5409576bf0cf6ba9f32be9)

(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FjNsxytW.jpg&hash=4501529478a3070e81be53987b8ece07bba47ec2)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Arturo on January 30, 2017, 08:01:47 PM
https://www.yahoo.com/news/republicans-begin-break-president-trump-035951217.html

Quote
...the precedent-breaking new President was testing the patience of Republicans who had hoped he might change tactics and tone once he was in the Oval Office.

Maybe this is a good sign?
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Pasta Chick on January 31, 2017, 12:20:40 AM
Shut the fuck up, Donny! (https://www.facebook.com/salon/videos/10153365566641519/)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: xSilverPhinx on January 31, 2017, 01:58:38 AM
Shut the fuck up, Donny! (https://www.facebook.com/salon/videos/10153365566641519/)

:lol:
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: joeactor on January 31, 2017, 02:22:05 AM
In other news...

Almost 450,000 people have signed the petition asking Trump to release his taxes.

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/immediately-release-donald-trumps-full-tax-returns-all-information-needed-verify-emoluments-clause-compliance (https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/immediately-release-donald-trumps-full-tax-returns-all-information-needed-verify-emoluments-clause-compliance)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Arturo on January 31, 2017, 04:38:03 AM
In other news...

Almost 450,000 people have signed the petition asking Trump to release his taxes.

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/immediately-release-donald-trumps-full-tax-returns-all-information-needed-verify-emoluments-clause-compliance (https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/immediately-release-donald-trumps-full-tax-returns-all-information-needed-verify-emoluments-clause-compliance)

That is well over their goal.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Davin on February 01, 2017, 08:48:52 PM
I'd really like him to release his taxes.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Recusant on February 01, 2017, 10:13:43 PM
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: xSilverPhinx on February 01, 2017, 10:41:16 PM
^ :grin:
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: xSilverPhinx on February 01, 2017, 11:11:54 PM
  ^ I'd think this really funny if the situation were not so serious.

Laugh so as not to cry?
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Arturo on February 01, 2017, 11:13:32 PM
I couldn't understand wtf he was trying to get across.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: xSilverPhinx on February 01, 2017, 11:17:20 PM
Maybe he can't decide on the size of something?
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Arturo on February 01, 2017, 11:29:52 PM
I feel this video perfectly encompasses everything about the previous one.

Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: joeactor on February 02, 2017, 12:29:09 AM
Ed, Edd, and Eddy makes much more sense than anything happening in US politics right now...
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Arturo on February 02, 2017, 12:34:47 AM
Ed, Edd, and Eddy makes much more sense than anything happening in US politics right now...

There was a video I saw that explains the "left" and "right" of US politics.

Here it is. The main subject is not about the left and the right, but more of debunking the person's view points.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on February 02, 2017, 09:01:30 AM
Seems Trump has worked wonders for George Orwell, "1984"  reached #3 in the Amazon ratings according to Penguin Classics on the BBC!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/01/25/1984-sales-soar-alternative-facts-trump-claims-echo-orwells/
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Pasta Chick on February 02, 2017, 02:40:29 PM
Donald J trump Doesn't Know How To Open Doors (https://www.facebook.com/outline/videos/742238632593276/)

I feel this is likely related to not knowing how to read "push" or "pull" signs.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Firebird on February 02, 2017, 03:26:02 PM
Oh boy...and now he's calling for repealing the Johnson Amendment which restricts politicking by churches:

Trump Vows to ‘Destroy’ Law Banning Political Activity by Churches (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/02/us/politics/trump-vows-to-destroy-law-banning-political-activity-by-churches.html)

3 weeks and and we're turning into a full-on fucking theocracy.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Bad Penny II on February 02, 2017, 03:28:40 PM
I've seen vid of our 80s Prime Minister talking of visiting Reagan.
Our Bob was prodigy across all the issues a leader should be
He'd ask Ronnie an economy question and he'd pass it to Joe
He'd pose a global strategic and an Al would be interposed.
It worked, Ronnie didn't mind deferring to those that knew

Then there was George Bush II
Did commercial interests he was involved with make him make the mistakes he made?
He probably doesn't remember

Donald
He's weird but if we survive him I'm sure you can go weirder. 
USA, USA
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Asmodean on February 02, 2017, 03:40:36 PM
If one were inclined to blindly believe the media, one would be led to assume that a nuclear war between the United States, Australia and Mexico is nigh, with UC Berkley backing the Mexicans.

The Asmo, He is sceptical. He thinks Trinidad and Tobago will be the first to invade.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Recusant on February 02, 2017, 04:23:03 PM
Oh boy...and now he's calling for repealing the Johnson Amendment which restricts politicking by churches:

Trump Vows to ‘Destroy’ Law Banning Political Activity by Churches (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/02/us/politics/trump-vows-to-destroy-law-banning-political-activity-by-churches.html)

3 weeks and and we're turning into a full-on fucking theocracy.

Yes, I saw this; the New York Times headline is inaccurate, though the story itself makes it clear that churches are not "banned" from political activity. They can engage in all the political activity they want, but if they do so they have to pay taxes just like any other political organization. It's a good law, but opposition to it was part of the Republican presidential platform (http://time.com/4406567/republican-platform-johnson-amendment-churches-political-organizing/). I expect Mike Pence has been putting a bug in Trump's ear about it as well.

Fundamentalist Christians have been moaning about and railing against the law more and more as they've gained prominence on the political landscape. In the past couple of years, I've had some discussions with right-wing Christians about it; they really hate the fact that their churches might lose tax exempt status if they go too far. The fact is that there have been very few cases brought against churches under this law--far too few, in my opinion.

The article also mentions a draft for an executive order enshrining Fundamentalist Christian views as government policy. It says that the order will not go forward, but I wouldn't bet on that.  "Donald Trump reportedly planning executive order declaring pre-marital sex, same-sex marriage and abortion to be wrong" | The Independent (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-executive-order-christian-pre-marital-sex-same-sex-marriage-abortion-wrong-religious-a7558691.html)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Bad Penny II on February 02, 2017, 04:24:10 PM
If one were inclined to blindly believe the media, one would be led to assume that a nuclear war between the United States, Australia and Mexico is nigh, with UC Berkley backing the Mexicans.

The Asmo, He is sceptical. He thinks Trinidad and Tobago will be the first to invade.

We don't have any nukes, we got talked out of getting them in more civilised times.
I think California and some of the less benighted states may yet side with us though.
So me and my hippo hopes.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on February 02, 2017, 05:50:20 PM
Oh boy...and now he's calling for repealing the Johnson Amendment which restricts politicking by churches:

Trump Vows to ‘Destroy’ Law Banning Political Activity by Churches (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/02/us/politics/trump-vows-to-destroy-law-banning-political-activity-by-churches.html)

3 weeks and and we're turning into a full-on fucking theocracy.

Yes, I saw this; the New York Times headline is inaccurate, though the story itself makes it clear that churches are not "banned" from political activity. They can engage in all the political activity they want, but if they do so they have to pay taxes just like any other political organization. It's a good law, but opposition to it was part of the Republican presidential platform (http://time.com/4406567/republican-platform-johnson-amendment-churches-political-organizing/). I expect Mike Pence has been putting a bug in Trump's ear about it as well.

[...]

Actually they do get it right, in the third paragraph. Another case of sloppy writing and/or editing methinks. Understandable if there is a deadline fast approaching, but I notice the sloppy use of English seems to be increasing.

This is another site where I cannot do a cut-n-paste on the tablet.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Arturo on February 02, 2017, 06:43:44 PM
If one were inclined to blindly believe the media, one would be led to assume that a nuclear war between the United States, Australia and Mexico is nigh, with UC Berkley backing the Mexicans.

The Asmo, He is sceptical. He thinks Trinidad and Tobago will be the first to invade.

We don't have any nukes, we got talked out of getting them in more civilised times.
I think California and some of the less benighted states may yet side with us though.
So me and my hippo hopes.

I'd fight for Mexico. Hell what is all this weight lifting gonna do if I don't blast some fools?

Also, I wonder if the political landscape turned because of the soldiers returning home.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: xSilverPhinx on February 03, 2017, 12:28:35 AM
(https://scontent.fpoa4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16473218_666558040172842_2970629318849032297_n.jpg?oh=8108de8fafc16d740e6ecfed129e3fe9&oe=590C1C31)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: xSilverPhinx on February 03, 2017, 01:18:20 AM
Found this, thought it was spot on.

Possibly NSFW.

Spoiler: ShowHide
(https://media.giphy.com/media/l3q2E4F7FCyrPjBvO/source.gif)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Arturo on February 03, 2017, 01:42:18 AM
Found this, thought it was spot on.

Possibly NSFW.

Spoiler: ShowHide
(https://media.giphy.com/media/l3q2E4F7FCyrPjBvO/source.gif)


(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia-cache-ec0.pinimg.com%2F736x%2Faa%2F32%2F54%2Faa325464340ff9eb105d43371bdc2f6b.jpg&hash=36f708ba1f660c676ac5934435261f3fa2806b2c)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: xSilverPhinx on February 03, 2017, 12:49:14 PM
Trump Draws. (http://distractify.com/humor/2017/02/01/trump-draws-twitter)

:rofl:
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Papasito Bruno on February 03, 2017, 01:01:00 PM
(https://scontent.fpoa4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16473218_666558040172842_2970629318849032297_n.jpg?oh=8108de8fafc16d740e6ecfed129e3fe9&oe=590C1C31)

I love this,...and how very apropos to where things here seem to be headed. Sharing this with everyone.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Asmodean on February 03, 2017, 03:00:12 PM
Trump Draws. (http://distractify.com/humor/2017/02/01/trump-draws-twitter)

:rofl:
Also, notice how BIG and MANLY his hands are.  :smilenod:


































...On the drawing.  :???:
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: xSilverPhinx on February 03, 2017, 03:16:30 PM
 ;D I'd bet he buys women's gloves to keep his little fingers from freezing.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on February 03, 2017, 03:23:30 PM
Trump Draws. (http://distractify.com/humor/2017/02/01/trump-draws-twitter)

:rofl:
Also, notice how BIG and MANLY his hands are.  :smilenod:


































...On the drawing.  :???:

"All the better to grab pussy with my dear . . ."
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: xSilverPhinx on February 03, 2017, 03:28:01 PM
"All the better to grab pussy with my dear . . ."

So grotesque...

:puke:
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Recusant on February 07, 2017, 11:55:17 PM
This is good: "WH official: We'll say 'fake news' until media realizes attitude of attacking the President is wrong" | CNN (http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/07/politics/kfile-gorka-on-fake-news/)

Quote
Sebastian Gorka, deputy assistant to President Donald Trump, said Monday that the administration will continue using the term "fake news" until the media understands that their "monumental desire" to attack the President is wrong.

"There is a monumental desire on behalf of the majority of the media, not just the pollsters, the majority of the media to attack a duly elected President in the second week of his term," Gorka, a former Breitbart editor who also holds a PhD in political science, told syndicated conservative radio host Michael Medved.

[Continues . . . (http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/07/politics/kfile-gorka-on-fake-news/)]

I didn't know that Trump had another Breitbart goon in the White House, but it's not particularly surprising.

Since the Trump administration apparently views any reporting that isn't fawning adulation of Trump to be an "attack," I'm guessing they'll be using the term a lot over the next four years, or however long the orange charlatan is in office. That won't help their credibility at all, but Trump's supporters will eat it up.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Recusant on February 08, 2017, 12:06:59 AM
Speaking of "fake news," here's a story from one of the worst "offenders," the Washington Post:

Quote
President Trump met Tuesday morning with a group of sheriffs from the National Sheriffs Association, a group that consists of more than 3,000 sheriffs from around the country. And to this sworn group of  law enforcement veterans, with reporters taking notes, he again repeated a falsehood about the murder rate in America.

Trump told the sheriffs, “the murder rate in our country is the highest it’s been in 47 years.” He blamed the news media for not publicizing this development, then added, “But the murder rate is the highest it’s been in, I guess, 45 to 47 years.”

The country’s murder rate is not the highest it’s been in 47 years. It is almost at its lowest point, actually, according to the FBI, which gathers statistics every year from police departments around the country.

[Continues . . . (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/true-crime/wp/2017/02/07/trump-makes-false-statement-about-u-s-murder-rate-to-sheriffs-group/?utm_term=.93588cd7c293)]

I'm sure that most of the people he was speaking to knew perfectly well that what he was saying was untrue. Willful ignorance or lie? Does it really matter?

This is part of the Trump narrative in which the country is in terrible, terrible shape (sad!), the world (including the cities of the United States) is a "scary place," and he was elected to make everything good again, which is something that he "alone" can do.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on February 08, 2017, 07:05:17 AM
This is good: "WH official: We'll say 'fake news' until media realizes attitude of attacking the President is wrong" | CNN (http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/07/politics/kfile-gorka-on-fake-news/)

Quote
Sebastian Gorka, deputy assistant to President Donald Trump, said Monday that the administration will continue using the term "fake news" until the media understands that their "monumental desire" to attack the President is wrong.

"There is a monumental desire on behalf of the majority of the media, not just the pollsters, the majority of the media to attack a duly elected President in the second week of his term," Gorka, a former Breitbart editor who also holds a PhD in political science, told syndicated conservative radio host Michael Medved.

[Continues . . . (http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/07/politics/kfile-gorka-on-fake-news/)]

I didn't know that Trump had another Breitbart goon in the White House, but it's not particularly surprising.

Since the Trump administration apparently views any reporting that isn't fawning adulation of Trump to be an "attack," I'm guessing they'll be using the term a lot over the next four years, or however long the orange charlatan is in office. That won't help their credibility at all, but Trump's supporters will eat it up.

There is some sort of logic failure there, surely? One can attack the president with entirely accurate, substantiated, news (I hope they do so).

Attacks with "genuinely" fake news are stupid - unless it is by a source acknowledged as being satirical. Otherwise it does more damage to the reporter than the target.

Oh, oh, reconsidering that last: John and Joan Public all too often want to believe whatever confirms their prejudices, regardless of the accuracy of what they read or hear. :(
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on February 08, 2017, 07:19:44 AM
Perhaps the "hit-back" against Trump, when he makes inaccurate claims like that, it to simply accurately publish his words, then - with no rhetorical verbiage attached- simply publish the real figures and a citation.

The more verbiage you offer the less chance there is that people will read it and the bigger the chance that you will say something that can be taken out of context and used against you. Or even make a simple error in your use of language or logic that can be exploited by your opponents.

Like saying, or even implying, that all anti-Trump news is fake simply because it is anti-Trump.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Davin on February 08, 2017, 01:53:28 PM
This is part of the Trump narrative in which the country is in terrible, terrible shape (sad!), the world (including the cities of the United States) is a "scary place," and he was elected to make everything good again, which is something that he "alone" can do.
I think it's because he wants to make people think the country is so bad, that when it gets worse in reality, he'll say, "well look at what I've done, I've made the country a better place!"

Like they refuse to say what the unemployment rate was (4.7%), I presume because when it starts to rise due to their influences and changes and gets back into the double digits like after the housing bubble crash, he'll be all like, "but it used to be 54% and now it's only 18% unemployment, you're welcome!"
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on February 08, 2017, 02:23:16 PM
Even Kafka would have had trouble keeping up with Trump!
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Arturo on February 08, 2017, 07:31:28 PM
This is part of the Trump narrative in which the country is in terrible, terrible shape (sad!), the world (including the cities of the United States) is a "scary place," and he was elected to make everything good again, which is something that he "alone" can do.
I think it's because he wants to make people think the country is so bad, that when it gets worse in reality, he'll say, "well look at what I've done, I've made the country a better place!"

Like they refuse to say what the unemployment rate was (4.7%), I presume because when it starts to rise due to their influences and changes and gets back into the double digits like after the housing bubble crash, he'll be all like, "but it used to be 54% and now it's only 18% unemployment, you're welcome!"

Yeah he is doing the same with Arnold Schwarzenegger on the Apprentice tv ratings. He says they are all so bad but he got renewed for another season. Trump got fired. Someone did better and it's not Donald.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Bad Penny II on February 09, 2017, 11:14:01 AM
Even Kafka would have had trouble keeping up with Trump!

Even Kafka wouldn't subject one of his characters to a Trumptopia

Not even Kafka would subject a Joe to Trumptopia.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on February 10, 2017, 06:29:07 PM
Quote
Donald Trump backs down over 'one China policy' in call with Xi Jinping, as Chinese and US aircraft in mid-air close call (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/02/10/donaldtrump-reaffirms-one-china-policy-call-chinas-xi-jinping/)
.

Since "face" is very important to the Chinese Donld has probably lost America even more respect then before.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on February 10, 2017, 09:08:07 PM
It seems Trump fits well in Bill the Bard's work.

From "The Comedy of Errors."

Quote
He is deformed, crooked, old and sere,   
Ill-fac’d, worse bodied, shapeless every where;   
Vicious, ungentle, foolish, blunt, unkind,   
Stigmatical in making, worse in mind.

http://www.bartleby.com/70/1542.html (http://www.bartleby.com/70/1542.html)

But, in this case, not so bloody funny . . .
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on February 14, 2017, 06:23:15 PM
Remember the old word game where you had to go from one word to another by changing only one letter in each step?

T R U M P
T R A M P
T W A M P   (Two-Way Active Measurement Protocol) (http://www.juniper.net/documentation/en_US/junos/topics/concept/twamp-overview.html)
S W A M P

[OK, I cheated!   :grin:]
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: joeactor on February 14, 2017, 09:10:38 PM
Remember the old word game where you had to go from one word to another by changing only one letter in each step?

T R U M  P
T R A M P
T W A M P   (Two-Way Active Measurement Protocol) (http://www.juniper.net/documentation/en_US/junos/topics/concept/twamp-overview.html)
S W A M P

[OK, I cheated!   :grin:]

Cool... I'll play!

T r u m p
t r a m p
t r a m s
c r a m s
c r a s s
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Ecurb Noselrub on February 14, 2017, 10:38:47 PM
Remember the old word game where you had to go from one word to another by changing only one letter in each step?

T R U M  P
T R A M P
T W A M P   (Two-Way Active Measurement Protocol) (http://www.juniper.net/documentation/en_US/junos/topics/concept/twamp-overview.html)
S W A M P

[OK, I cheated!   :grin:]

Cool... I'll play!

T r u m p
t r a m p
t r a m s
c r a m s
c r a s s


c r a b s
d r a b s
d r a m s
g r a m s
g r a b s pussy
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Asmodean on February 15, 2017, 09:52:01 AM
TRUMP
RUMP
RUM
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Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on February 16, 2017, 04:30:09 PM
Still awaiting Travel Ban v2 as promised "early" this week.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Davin on February 16, 2017, 04:35:24 PM
I think they are looking into the Executive Order that had interned the Japanese. Now that one was a little more smartly worded to get around that pesky Constitution.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_9066
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on February 16, 2017, 04:59:49 PM
I think they are looking into the Executive Order that had interned the Japanese. Now that one was a little more smartly worded to get around that pesky Constitution.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_9066

Hmm, seem to remember the internment of the Japanese was montioned as a precedent even before the first order was signed, whilst Trump was still ranting rallying support fot it pre-inaugaration.

But, words is words to the lawyers, get one wrong or in the wrong place and you are kicked out of court.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on February 16, 2017, 10:15:03 PM
Well, I am going to have to put it as I see it.

Just listened to clips and views from/of his recent news conference. If he thinks he gave an honest reading of his first month he is fucking deluded. If he thinks he span a view that anyone would accept he is totally stupid.

I do not think he is totally stupid.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Davin on February 17, 2017, 01:57:06 PM
There is an idea I read about that sounded at least plausible. Of course he's saying contradicting things that no one would really believe, because he's trying to find the loyalists. Those people that will accept everything he says no matter how ludicrous it sounds. So that he can weed out the people who care about things like reality. Like an Orwellian type leader from 1984. War is peace.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Papasito Bruno on February 17, 2017, 02:29:30 PM
There is an idea I read about that sounded at least plausible. Of course he's saying contradicting things that no one would really believe, because he's trying to find the loyalists. Those people that will accept everything he says no matter how ludicrous it sounds. So that he can weed out the people who care about things like reality. Like an Orwellian type leader from 1984. War is peace.

I read an article this morning about Trump's news conference yesterday and would post a link to it, but now I can't find it. Anyway it went on to point out that while many of us here and around the world are flabbergasted about many of the things he said, his supporters were eating it up.
Not much different really than what was occurring on the campaign trail, he'll make a comment that many of us find appalling, yet his supporters cheer him on.
 
I'm sure the Alt-Right was happy as fuck when Trump told the Jewish reporter to sit down. (I wish the reporter would have refused to sit, and told Donald to answer his question, or at the very least told Donald to fuck off...)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Recusant on February 17, 2017, 03:45:31 PM
That was a striking example of how Trump operates. For those who haven't followed this (I wouldn't blame you): The reporter asked him about the rise of anti-Semitism, and instead of addressing the question, Trump went into a little rant about how he's the "least anti-Semitic person." Then when the reporter tried to get him to answer the question, Trump basically told him to shut up and accused him of being dishonest.  :picard facepalm:
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on February 17, 2017, 04:27:58 PM
Substitute subject.

Will Trump "die in jail"?

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/02/he-will-die-in-jail-intelligence-community-ready-to-go-nuclear-on-trump-senior-source-says/?comments=disqus


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John Schindler @‏20committee

Now we go nuclear. IC war going to new levels. Just got an EM fm senior IC friend, it began: "He will die in jail."

The "XX Committee" (https://20committee.com/about/)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Recusant on February 25, 2017, 05:22:43 AM
In one of his first speeches as president, Trump said (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/nov/9/donald-trump-claims-victory-vows-unite-country/): "I pledge to every citizen of our land that I will be president for all the citizens and this is important to me." I think the only people who might have believed his promise were his core supporters, and I doubt that even they thought he actually meant it. He's done nothing at all to fulfill that promise in his first month in office. In his speech at CPAC (http://cpac.conservative.org/), he said something that directly contradicts his promise, basically drawing a line between his supporters and those who are trying to get their voices heard in support of the ACA ("Obamacare"), and by implication, anybody who isn't in complete agreement with whatever he says at any given moment.

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Referring to the town hall protests in support of Obamacare, Trump said, “The people that you’re watching, they’re not you. They’re largely – many of them are the side that lost, you know they lost the election. It’s like, how many elections do we have to have?”

[source (http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/02/trump-praises-first-amendment-calls-for-media-suppression.html)]
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Arturo on February 25, 2017, 05:38:22 AM
In one of his first speeches as president, Trump said (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/nov/9/donald-trump-claims-victory-vows-unite-country/): "I pledge to every citizen of our land that I will be president for all the citizens and this is important to me." I think the only people who might have believed his promise were his core supporters, and I doubt that even they thought he actually meant it. He's done nothing at all to fulfill that promise in his first month in office. In his speech at CPAC (http://cpac.conservative.org/), he said something that directly contradicts his promise, basically drawing a line between his supporters and those who are trying to get their voices heard in support of the ACA ("Obamacare"), and by implication, anybody who isn't in complete agreement with whatever he says at any given moment.

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Referring to the town hall protests in support of Obamacare, Trump said, “The people that you’re watching, they’re not you. They’re largely – many of them are the side that lost, you know they lost the election. It’s like, how many elections do we have to have?”

[source (http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/02/trump-praises-first-amendment-calls-for-media-suppression.html)]

I don't talk politics to many people but maybe the people who support him don't care about that line he just drew because they don't like Obamacare.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Recusant on February 25, 2017, 02:42:12 PM
I don't talk politics to many people but maybe the people who support him don't care about that line he just drew because they don't like Obamacare.

It's one thing to dislike the ACA, it's something else to consider those who want to keep it to be "the other" as in "they're not you."
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Icarus on February 25, 2017, 07:35:45 PM
Some people who dislike ACA Obamacare can not tell you why they do not like it.  They have been persuaded that it is a communist plot to destroy America or that it actually does encourage "death panels". That term; death panel, is generally attributed to the brilliant bulldog with lipstick, Sarah Palin.

The "fake" news has lately shown some town meetings that have actual members of the red party who are insistent that ACA not be abolished. The chickens are coming home to roost.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Papasito Bruno on February 25, 2017, 08:13:01 PM
Some people who dislike ACA Obamacare can not tell you why they do not like it.  They have been persuaded that it is a communist plot to destroy America or that it actually does encourage "death panels". That term; death panel, is generally attributed to the brilliant bulldog with lipstick, Sarah Palin.

The "fake" news has lately shown some town meetings that have actual members of the red party who are insistent that ACA not be abolished. The chickens are coming home to roost.

I like the Trumpheads who had no clue that what is commonly referred to as "Obamacare" is actually the same as the "Affordable Care Act" and so they were quite giddy to repeal the former since they were adequately covered under the latter.



Anyway have you heard about the horror going on currently in Japan?

(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fj67fX8F.jpg&hash=8e48980e5cb725b0aaad33967269b90f92ae5e06)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: joeactor on February 27, 2017, 10:40:39 PM
Germany has a way with floats:

(https://www.thelocal.de/userdata/images/article/eadad4c08215c276e6e10d7db0424134f9508e88d74d36be73d1b3e7fd9a0669.jpg)

Full article with more pics here:

https://www.thelocal.de/20170227/in-pics-german-carnival-floats-show-trump-no-mercy (https://www.thelocal.de/20170227/in-pics-german-carnival-floats-show-trump-no-mercy)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on February 28, 2017, 02:54:30 AM
^  pretty graphic, but also pretty accurate for the first one - we can only hope for the second.

Was ever a POTUS so universally, internationally, disliked, even hated?
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Arturo on February 28, 2017, 07:49:53 AM
^  pretty graphic, but also pretty accurate for the first one - we can only hope for the second.

Was ever a POTUS so universally, internationally, disliked, even hated?

Nixon was pretty bad I heard. Also some others from the wild west and civil war era I also hear, like Lincoln.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on February 28, 2017, 08:19:00 AM
^  pretty graphic, but also pretty accurate for the first one - we can only hope for the second.

Was ever a POTUS so universally, internationally, disliked, even hated?

Nixon was pretty bad I heard. Also some others from the wild west and civil war era I also hear, like Lincoln.

Hmm, could be but Nixon was a "single issue" crook, Trump has a much wider portfolio!
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Arturo on February 28, 2017, 08:22:51 AM
^  pretty graphic, but also pretty accurate for the first one - we can only hope for the second.

Was ever a POTUS so universally, internationally, disliked, even hated?

Nixon was pretty bad I heard. Also some others from the wild west and civil war era I also hear, like Lincoln.

Hmm, could be but Nixon was a "single issue" crook, Trump has a much wider portfolio!

That is very true.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on February 28, 2017, 09:09:38 AM
Trump's latest theme, "Never mind the environment, damn the starving, let's have more killing machines!"

Even the ex-generals seem to be appalled, let's hope Congress has a sudden attack of sanity.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Arturo on February 28, 2017, 10:36:47 AM
Seems he can't read
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Ecurb Noselrub on February 28, 2017, 04:43:10 PM
^  pretty graphic, but also pretty accurate for the first one - we can only hope for the second.

Was ever a POTUS so universally, internationally, disliked, even hated?

He has a 44% approval rating, so it's not universal.  And disapproval is 48%, so less than half.  What is significant is that the approval is so low so soon in his presidency.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on February 28, 2017, 05:11:50 PM
^  pretty graphic, but also pretty accurate for the first one - we can only hope for the second.

Was ever a POTUS so universally, internationally, disliked, even hated?

He has a 44% approval rating, so it's not universal.  And disapproval is 48%, so less than half.  What is significant is that the approval is so low so soon in his presidency.

True, poor choice of word on my part - I meant that, barring the keaders of certain countries  who might need "alternative" markets in a few years (Britain? Never!), there seems to be global negative reaction.

And judging by the behaviour of some American companies to impose their rules and American laws on others,  I am very unhappy with our choices if Brexit gies ahead. Personally I am not that bothered about GMOs in many cases but I still want mandatory labels on the food and the option to refuse.

Added: I should have mentioned the above is in the context of Trump's "America first" rhetoric - taken to the extreme such a person might reach that will probably not be good for trading partners.

But, with Trump, who knows?
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Arturo on February 28, 2017, 06:28:29 PM
^  pretty graphic, but also pretty accurate for the first one - we can only hope for the second.

Was ever a POTUS so universally, internationally, disliked, even hated?

He has a 44% approval rating, so it's not universal.  And disapproval is 48%, so less than half.  What is significant is that the approval is so low so soon in his presidency.

True, poor choice of word on my part - I meant that, barring the keaders of certain countries  who might need "alternative" markets in a few years (Britain? Never!), there seems to be global negative reaction.

And judging by the behaviour of some American companies to impose their rules and American laws on others,  I am very unhappy with our choices if Brexit gies ahead. Personally I am not that bothered about GMOs in many cases but I still want mandatory labels on the food and the option to refuse.

Added: I should have mentioned the above is in the context of Trump's "America first" rhetoric - taken to the extreme such a person might reach that will probably not be good for trading partners.

But, with Trump, who knows?

I'm just going to go out on a limb and say he's retarded. I don't mean that in a conical or metaphorical way but I mean he is actually retarded. The motives behind everything he does is incredibly obvious. But people rush to defend him like he is a mentally ill child he doesn't know any better.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: joeactor on February 28, 2017, 06:38:48 PM
^  pretty graphic, but also pretty accurate for the first one - we can only hope for the second.

Was ever a POTUS so universally, internationally, disliked, even hated?

He has a 44% approval rating, so it's not universal.  And disapproval is 48%, so less than half.  What is significant is that the approval is so low so soon in his presidency.

I find it truly disturbing that 44% approve. Amazing how easily led the populace can be.

As for retarded, not sure. I think it's more likely a combination of other psychological problems combined with early-onset dementia.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on February 28, 2017, 07:15:43 PM
Arturo wrote:
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I'm just going to go out on a limb and say he's retarded. I don't mean that in a conical or metaphorical way . . .

Conical? As in

Spoiler: ShowHide
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Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Tom62 on February 28, 2017, 08:14:24 PM
I think that Trump is a typical case of "either you like him or hate him". There doesn't seem to be any middle ground
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Arturo on February 28, 2017, 08:45:58 PM
Arturo wrote:
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I'm just going to go out on a limb and say he's retarded. I don't mean that in a conical or metaphorical way . . .

Conical? As in

Spoiler: ShowHide
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Lol I've been typing on my tablet lately because my computer doesn't like me right now. So now we're best buddies right.

FYI, I meant comical.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Bad Penny II on March 01, 2017, 10:54:38 AM
I think that Trump is a typical case of "either you like him or hate him". There doesn't seem to be any middle ground

People say that "either or thing", I don't hate them for it but it's a bit annoying.
Polarising is a good word, they could refer to bell curves and deviations, distributions.
I expect there is a middle ground.
I find him repugnant but I don't hate him.
He hasn't fondled anyone important to me.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on March 05, 2017, 09:16:53 AM
(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi778.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fyy67%2FDaveGlos%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fapproval_976.png&hash=64ef896aedfede5ec277e1cf71886685e35e9b1e) (http://s778.photobucket.com/user/DaveGlos/media/Mobile%20Uploads/approval_976.png.html)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38663043
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Arturo on March 06, 2017, 02:28:33 AM
According to that article that Gloucester sourced, it says this when talking about Obamacare:

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Senior Republicans have said legislation to replace it will be unveiled in March but several recent polls have suggested that support for the scheme is actually growing
.

Does "scheme" mean the Affordable Care Act or the act of Republicans trying to repeal it?
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on March 06, 2017, 07:17:05 AM
According to that article that Gloucester sourced, it says this when talking about Obamacare:

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Senior Republicans have said legislation to replace it will be unveiled in March but several recent polls have suggested that support for the scheme is actually growing
.

Does "scheme" mean the Affordable Care Act or the act of Republicans trying to repeal it?
I read that as support for ACA. Perhaps the Trumpites have finally realised that ACA and Obamacare are tge same thing and that ACA is not all that bad.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Arturo on March 06, 2017, 05:18:35 PM
According to that article that Gloucester sourced, it says this when talking about Obamacare:

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Senior Republicans have said legislation to replace it will be unveiled in March but several recent polls have suggested that support for the scheme is actually growing
.

Does "scheme" mean the Affordable Care Act or the act of Republicans trying to repeal it?
I read that as support for ACA. Perhaps the Trumpites have finally realised that ACA and Obamacare are tge same thing and that ACA is not all that bad.

I watch an anime that has an abriviation, "DRRR" and I thought of it just now when you said that.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on March 06, 2017, 06:36:26 PM
According to that article that Gloucester sourced, it says this when talking about Obamacare:

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Senior Republicans have said legislation to replace it will be unveiled in March but several recent polls have suggested that support for the scheme is actually growing
.

Does "scheme" mean the Affordable Care Act or the act of Republicans trying to repeal it?
I read that as support for ACA. Perhaps the Trumpites have finally realised that ACA and Obamacare are tge same thing and that ACA is not all that bad.

I watch an anime that has an abriviation, "DRRR" and I thought of it just now when you said that.

 :query:
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Arturo on March 06, 2017, 11:25:51 PM
According to that article that Gloucester sourced, it says this when talking about Obamacare:

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Senior Republicans have said legislation to replace it will be unveiled in March but several recent polls have suggested that support for the scheme is actually growing
.

Does "scheme" mean the Affordable Care Act or the act of Republicans trying to repeal it?
I read that as support for ACA. Perhaps the Trumpites have finally realised that ACA and Obamacare are tge same thing and that ACA is not all that bad.

I watch an anime that has an abriviation, "DRRR" and I thought of it just now when you said that.

 :query:

Maybe I wasn't clear enough when I posted that. The abriviation looks like something that someone says when they are dumb, (if you pronounce "DRRR")
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on March 07, 2017, 04:02:36 AM
According to that article that Gloucester sourced, it says this when talking about Obamacare:

Quote
Senior Republicans have said legislation to replace it will be unveiled in March but several recent polls have suggested that support for the scheme is actually growing
.

Does "scheme" mean the Affordable Care Act or the act of Republicans trying to repeal it?
I read that as support for ACA. Perhaps the Trumpites have finally realised that ACA and Obamacare are tge same thing and that ACA is not all that bad.

I watch an anime that has an abriviation, "DRRR" and I thought of it just now when you said that.

 :query:

Maybe I wasn't clear enough when I posted that. The abriviation looks like something that someone says when they are dumb, (if you pronounce "DRRR")

I would spell it "durr", a variation of "doh" or "duh".

"ACA" . Never, heard heard or seen that as an expression of dumbness.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Arturo on March 07, 2017, 07:24:10 AM
I think we're getting lost in semantics over something small. The "DRRR" or "duff" is what the "Trumpites", as you call them, would be saying.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Icarus on March 08, 2017, 08:59:50 PM
The most recent crackpot idea of our imperial leader involves cutting the operating funds of the US Coast Guard.  The savings are to be applied to the cost of the wall.  News flash!  The coast guard dollar will catch far more attempted illegal entrants, drug runners, gun runners and assorted criminals and terrorists than the same dollar or ten times as many dollars spent on a dumb ass wall.  The Coasties also maintain the nations aids to navigation and perform search and rescue operations whenever and wherever needed. 

Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Ecurb Noselrub on March 08, 2017, 09:38:31 PM
The most recent crackpot idea of our imperial leader involves cutting the operating funds of the US Coast Guard.  The savings are to be applied to the cost of the wall.  News flash!  The coast guard dollar will catch far more attempted illegal entrants, drug runners, gun runners and assorted criminals and terrorists than the same dollar or ten times as many dollars spent on a dumb ass wall.  The Coasties also maintain the nations aids to navigation and perform search and rescue operations whenever and wherever needed.

This is a horrible idea. Cutting funding for the Coast Guard is one of his stupidest ideas yet.  Hopefully Congress will see that.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Recusant on March 08, 2017, 11:25:09 PM
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Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Arturo on March 26, 2017, 08:15:16 PM
Well Obamacare, aka the Affordable Care Act, is safe. Not enough votes from the republicans and the effort failed due to that. Trump is surely crying in the office and his wife is with someone else in his bed.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Tom62 on March 26, 2017, 08:26:39 PM
Well Obamacare, aka the Affordable Care Act, is safe. Not enough votes from the republicans and the effort failed due to that. Trump is surely crying in the office and his wife is with someone else in his bed.

That was the best news of the week. About the ACA, not about Trump's wife, that is.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Arturo on March 26, 2017, 11:45:03 PM
Well Obamacare, aka the Affordable Care Act, is safe. Not enough votes from the republicans and the effort failed due to that. Trump is surely crying in the office and his wife is with someone else in his bed.

That was the best news of the week. About the ACA, not about Trump's wife, that is.
A close second?
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Tom62 on March 28, 2017, 07:44:53 AM
Well Obamacare, aka the Affordable Care Act, is safe. Not enough votes from the republicans and the effort failed due to that. Trump is surely crying in the office and his wife is with someone else in his bed.

That was the best news of the week. About the ACA, not about Trump's wife, that is.
A close second?

No, I don't give a shit about the private affairs of Donald and Melania Trump.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Arturo on March 28, 2017, 07:48:25 AM
Well Obamacare, aka the Affordable Care Act, is safe. Not enough votes from the republicans and the effort failed due to that. Trump is surely crying in the office and his wife is with someone else in his bed.

That was the best news of the week. About the ACA, not about Trump's wife, that is.
A close second?

No, I don't give a shit about the private affairs of Donald and Melania Trump.

Haha good answer
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Papasito Bruno on March 28, 2017, 04:42:52 PM
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Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: joeactor on March 28, 2017, 07:27:39 PM
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Tragically funny...
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Recusant on March 30, 2017, 11:55:15 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/E2s8HVS.jpg)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Recusant on April 01, 2017, 06:43:26 PM
Zis is chaos. Ve don't talk about climate change here! (http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/energy-department-climate-change-phrases-banned-236655)

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A supervisor at the Energy Department's international climate office told staff this week not to use the phrases "climate change," "emissions reduction" or "Paris Agreement" in written memos, briefings or other written communication, sources have told POLITICO.

Employees of DOE’s Office of International Climate and Clean Energy learned of the ban at a meeting Tuesday, the same day President Donald Trump signed an executive order at EPA headquarters to reverse most of former President Barack Obama's climate regulatory initiatives. Officials at the State Department and in other DOE offices said they had not been given a banned words list, but they had started avoiding climate-related terms in their memos and briefings given the new administration's direction on climate change.

[Continues . . . (http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/energy-department-climate-change-phrases-banned-236655)]

Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Recusant on April 02, 2017, 12:34:14 AM
WT everlovin' F?


My guess is that president dumpster fire simply forgot what he was there for.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Davin on April 03, 2017, 03:06:42 PM
He acts like a poorly raised toddler.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on April 03, 2017, 04:24:22 PM
He acts like a poorly raised toddler.
Then wonders why the media make him a figure of, er, fun?
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Sandra Craft on April 03, 2017, 08:22:36 PM
He stormed off because people in the room kept bringing up the Russians.  Honestly, whatever keeps him from signing things is fine by me.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Recusant on April 03, 2017, 08:55:58 PM
I didn't hear a peep out of the reporters till he was making his way out of the room, though.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Sandra Craft on April 03, 2017, 08:59:11 PM
I didn't hear a peep out of the reporters till he was making his way out of the room, though.

Hmmm, that was the report I heard.   Maybe voices in his head?
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on April 03, 2017, 09:15:37 PM
I didn't hear a peep out of the reporters till he was making his way out of the room, though.

Hmmm, that was the report I heard.   Maybe voices in his head?
Or he has simply decided not to give them the opportunity to ask difficult questions? "Get your defence in first" by ducking out?
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Recusant on April 07, 2017, 02:08:59 AM
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Magdalena on April 07, 2017, 02:14:09 AM
^^^
Oh...That's  very good.  ;D
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Recusant on April 07, 2017, 09:05:57 AM
(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FaCtF8gh.png&hash=c9361e33417696d8925f4a42856ad2a6bab1e0b4) (https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/375609403376144384?lang=en)

(Image is a link to the tweet.)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on April 07, 2017, 10:00:28 AM
^ Yup

Strange how responsibility (as the onus not the personal quality) and power changes minds, ennit?
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Papasito Bruno on April 23, 2017, 01:54:17 PM
Trump's Agenda:

1. Golf.
2. Tweet.
3. Golf.
4. Lie.
5. Golf.
6. Bitch.
7. Golf.
8. Moan.
9. Golf.
10. Repeat 1-9.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Icarus on April 24, 2017, 01:48:08 AM
^ insert, Flying in opulence on US 1 to Mara Lago.  Never mind the  great cost of the whimsical perigrinations.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on April 24, 2017, 06:02:35 AM
^ insert, Flying in opulence on US 1 to Mara Lago.  Never mind the  great cost of the whimsical perigrinations.
I actually wonder how much these sort of presidential trips actually cost.

The aircraft, its flight and maintenance crews, all admin and security staff etc have to be paid for anyway,even if it stays on the ground. So fuel is an added cost. I suggest the biggest bitch, with such a destination, is the disruption to normal life from the security etc. That will probably start well in advance of the trip. Does Trump charge the nation for accomodating the staff in his own property?

Camp David, in comparison, will be organised for trips and almost certainly has staff accomodation. On the negative side it has to be maintained for immediate use 365.25/year for the foreseeable future, whether in use of not, for "normal" presidents.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Sandra Craft on April 24, 2017, 06:57:29 AM
^ insert, Flying in opulence on US 1 to Mara Lago.  Never mind the  great cost of the whimsical perigrinations.
I actually wonder how much these sort of presidential trips actually cost.


$3.6 million per trip, according to a Government Accountability Office report: Politifact (http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/apr/18/center-american-progress-action-fund/how-much-do-donald-trumps-trips-mar-lago-cost/)

In just one month, 45 spent almost as much on vacations as Obama did in one year.   And not a peep about this from Republicans.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on April 24, 2017, 08:08:51 AM
^ insert, Flying in opulence on US 1 to Mara Lago.  Never mind the  great cost of the whimsical perigrinations.
I actually wonder how much these sort of presidential trips actually cost.


$3.6 million per trip, according to a Government Accountability Office report: Politifact (http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/apr/18/center-american-progress-action-fund/how-much-do-donald-trumps-trips-mar-lago-cost/)

In just one month, 45 spent almost as much on vacations as Obama did in one year.   And not a peep about this from Republicans.

Is that $3.6mn over the standing cost of maintaining the aircraft and all staff on standby 24/7/52?
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Sandra Craft on April 24, 2017, 12:04:33 PM
^ insert, Flying in opulence on US 1 to Mara Lago.  Never mind the  great cost of the whimsical perigrinations.
I actually wonder how much these sort of presidential trips actually cost.


$3.6 million per trip, according to a Government Accountability Office report: Politifact (http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/apr/18/center-american-progress-action-fund/how-much-do-donald-trumps-trips-mar-lago-cost/)

In just one month, 45 spent almost as much on vacations as Obama did in one year.   And not a peep about this from Republicans.

Is that $3.6mn over the standing cost of maintaining the aircraft and all staff on standby 24/7/52?

That I don't know, but I'm not sure if the AF1 and the staff count as "vacation" even tho they're being used during the golfing trips.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Tank on April 24, 2017, 01:12:31 PM
^ insert, Flying in opulence on US 1 to Mara Lago.  Never mind the  great cost of the whimsical perigrinations.
I actually wonder how much these sort of presidential trips actually cost.


$3.6 million per trip, according to a Government Accountability Office report: Politifact (http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/apr/18/center-american-progress-action-fund/how-much-do-donald-trumps-trips-mar-lago-cost/)

In just one month, 45 spent almost as much on vacations as Obama did in one year.   And not a peep about this from Republicans.

Is that $3.6mn over the standing cost of maintaining the aircraft and all staff on standby 24/7/52?
I bet the delta cost is the fuel and some staff overtime.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Sandra Craft on April 24, 2017, 09:09:12 PM
^ insert, Flying in opulence on US 1 to Mara Lago.  Never mind the  great cost of the whimsical perigrinations.
I actually wonder how much these sort of presidential trips actually cost.


$3.6 million per trip, according to a Government Accountability Office report: Politifact (http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/apr/18/center-american-progress-action-fund/how-much-do-donald-trumps-trips-mar-lago-cost/)

In just one month, 45 spent almost as much on vacations as Obama did in one year.   And not a peep about this from Republicans.

Is that $3.6mn over the standing cost of maintaining the aircraft and all staff on standby 24/7/52?
I bet the delta cost is the fuel and some staff overtime.

You're right -- the biggest costs are the plane and staff.  The costs are based on Obama's trips, since Trump won't release the expenses for his.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on April 24, 2017, 09:38:21 PM
$3.6 million per trip, according to a Government Accountability Office report: Politifact (http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/apr/18/center-american-progress-action-fund/how-much-do-donald-trumps-trips-mar-lago-cost/)

In just one month, 45 spent almost as much on vacations as Obama did in one year.   And not a peep about this from Republicans.

Is that $3.6mn over the standing cost of maintaining the aircraft and all staff on standby 24/7/52?
I bet the delta cost is the fuel and some staff overtime.

You're right -- the biggest costs are the plane and staff.  The costs are based on Obama's trips, since Trump won't release the expenses for his.

As I thought, the extra cost per trip is mainly in fuel and possibly inconvenience for others, there are always going to be the required staff on duty for any eventuality, vacation or emergency, all the time. So he is costing you a bit extra there but the greater crime is, it seems, he is spending public money on jollies and refusing to account for it.

This man is 100% shit. Even our Liz as to make her spending of public money available for scrutiny, and her tax now. If Terrible May tried such a fiddle she would be on the carpet pronto! And, I would hope, out of office within a couple of weeks.

PS, having trouble with multiple quotes again!


Fixt. -R
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Icarus on April 24, 2017, 10:03:49 PM
 There are two small airports in the area that have to be shut down during 45s golfing visits to Mara Lago. That is causing some serious fiscal problems for those small airports and the numerous little service businesses that try make a living there.  The small business people at those airports are not happy.

 
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Sandra Craft on April 25, 2017, 02:52:33 AM
There are two small airports in the area that have to be shut down during 45s golfing visits to Mara Lago. That is causing some serious fiscal problems for those small airports and the numerous little service businesses that try make a living there.  The small business people at those airports are not happy.

While I was rooting around Google, I also found that the excessive use of the Secret Service to provide security for the visits has caused them to ask for an additional $60M in operating expenses.  A great deal of this could be avoided if he'd use Camp David.  I'd think after all the bloviating he did about Obama's golfing trips, 45 would make a point of going there.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on April 25, 2017, 06:40:41 AM
There are two small airports in the area that have to be shut down during 45s golfing visits to Mara Lago. That is causing some serious fiscal problems for those small airports and the numerous little service businesses that try make a living there.  The small business people at those airports are not happy.

While I was rooting around Google, I also found that the excessive use of the Secret Service to provide security for the visits has caused them to ask for an additional $60M in operating expenses.  A great deal of this could be avoided if he'd use Camp David.  I'd think after all the bloviating he did about Obama's golfing trips, 45 would make a point of going there.

What? He will make no profit from using Camp David! I will bet he is charging every penny he can for his use of his properties for government business.

Tsk, if you can't make a couple of billion out of being POTUS the job isn't worth the hassle.

Must have missed something, where does the "45" ref come from?
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Sandra Craft on April 25, 2017, 10:51:34 AM

Must have missed something, where does the "45" ref come from?

He's the 45th President, and 45 is the only way those of us who can't bear to put "president" and "Trump" together (not without throwing up in our mouths a little) can bring ourselves to refer to him.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on April 25, 2017, 11:09:13 AM

Must have missed something, where does the "45" ref come from?

He's the 45th President, and 45 is the only way those of us who can't bear to put "president" and "Trump" together (not without throwing up in our mouths a little) can bring ourselves to refer to him.
Ah, yes,. Reduce him to a mere cypher.

45% is about tops for his approval rating as well it seems - at 100 days most presidents have rated around 60% accodfing to Gallup. (http://www.gallup.com/poll/203198/presidential-approval-ratings-donald-trump.aspx)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Papasito Bruno on May 03, 2017, 03:13:42 PM
Recently Trump made some comments about former US President Andrew Jackson who died 1845. Below is a written transcript of his comments, which makes this image both funny, yet extremely sad and worrisome for humanity.


(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F6RI1HwQ.jpg&hash=19b7909a94e958a9a122aa0963f33370eb3d6f5e)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Arturo on May 03, 2017, 07:53:12 PM
If only the North let the South keep their slaves...

(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F25.media.tumblr.com%2Ffe8d2935ecbae9ccba696062e8e2d1a5%2Ftumblr_miwui1FRJt1qg0h47o2_500.gif&hash=84fad10d239affb5544bdf863368b2a4995869b0)

Am I right?
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Recusant on May 03, 2017, 11:31:48 PM
Il Douche on the campaign trail:

(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FTX4Ra2C.jpg&hash=d2872f64c1e0e45d55195cb1fc1f592de12465e4)

As president: "Trump Expected to Sign Anti-LGBT 'Religious Freedom' Executive Order" | NCRM (http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/davidbadash/trump_to_sign_anti_lgbt_religious_freedom_executive_order)

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President Donald Trump is expected to sign an anti-LGBT "religious freedom executive order on Thursday, the National Day of Prayer. Some believe Vice President Mike Pence, in partnership with anti-gay hate groups, is behind the push for him to sign it this week.

Politico first reported the scheduling of the signing, noting it "would represent a major triumph for Vice President Mike Pence—whose push for religious-freedom legislation backfired mightily when he served as governor of Indiana—and his allies in the conservative movement."

The White House is planning on having the president sign it during Thursday's gathering of national faith leaders and "family friendly" Christian organizations, according to sources in the administration who tell NCRM that the language of the Executive Order remains essentially unchanged from the draft leaked last February to The Nation magazine.

[Continues . . . (http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/davidbadash/trump_to_sign_anti_lgbt_religious_freedom_executive_order)]


Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Recusant on May 04, 2017, 10:27:37 PM
Like their flaxen-haired dear leader, Trump's supporters apparently can't take a joke.

"No, Trumpsters, One Colbert Joke Is Not an O’Reilly Equivalent" | Daily Beast (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2017/05/03/no-trumpsters-one-colbert-joke-is-not-an-o-reilly-equivalent)

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Stephen Colbert has done it now. He has triggered an army of Donald Trump supporters outraged by one of the late night comic’s jokes about their beloved leader. In fact, these Trump snowflakes are in such a tizzy over Colbert’s politically incorrect joke they now want to silence Colbert by demanding he be fired.

This controversy exploded late Tuesday when Breitbart.com, in between articles demonizing immigrants and Muslims, published an article to whine about Colbert’s joke that sent Trumpers looking for a safe space. So what was this horrific joke that mandates Colbert be silenced in the eyes of Trumpers?

Well it was part of a block of jokes where Colbert quipped: “Sir, you attract more skinheads than free Rogaine. You have more people marching against you than cancer. You talk like a sign-language gorilla that got hit in the head.” And then the line that cause[d] Trumpers to freak out: “In fact, the only thing your mouth is good for is being Vladimir Putin’s cock holster.”

And cue the outrage. Come Tuesday night the number one topic trending on Twitter was #FireColbert. And the tweets there offered up the biggest display of hypocrisy since the last time Trump opened up his mouth.

[Continues . . . (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2017/05/03/no-trumpsters-one-colbert-joke-is-not-an-o-reilly-equivalent)]



Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Sandra Craft on May 05, 2017, 12:07:35 AM
^^ What's hilarious about this (almost as much as the rant) is that Trump supporters are using "homophobia" as the reason they're offended by it.  Like everybody isn't aware that they don't give a damn about The Gays and are only using homophobia because they realize the rest of us don't give a damn about Trump.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Arturo on May 05, 2017, 12:38:12 AM
Quote
https://www.youtube.com/embed/g9pOQOnkfNY

(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F25.media.tumblr.com%2Fa4241e47a24493aba9e2dbc525fe7e14%2Ftumblr_mho0uvc3o51qjgyd1o1_500.gif&hash=0fd2c3450e085018d76cccaa4ee996a66c3265e0)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: xSilverPhinx on May 05, 2017, 01:39:13 AM
Recently Trump made some comments about former US President Andrew Jackson who died 1845. Below is a written transcript of his comments, which makes this image both funny, yet extremely sad and worrisome for humanity.


(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F6RI1HwQ.jpg&hash=19b7909a94e958a9a122aa0963f33370eb3d6f5e)

:bigspecs:

:rofl:
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Tank on May 05, 2017, 12:50:48 PM
“In fact, the only thing your mouth is good for is being Vladimir Putin’s cock holster.”
 :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :rofl:
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Recusant on May 08, 2017, 11:53:05 PM
This is just nauseating. "EPA dismisses five scientists from major review board: report" | The Hill (http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/332321-epa-dismisses-five-scientists-from-major-review-board-report)

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The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) has dismissed at least five academic members of one of its scientific review boards and may replace them with representatives from industries the EPA regulates, according to The New York Times.

A spokesperson for EPA Administrator Scott Pruitt said Pruitt is considering replacing the five scientists with representatives of industries whose pollution the EPA polices.

“The administrator believes we should have people on this board who understand the impact of regulations on the regulated community,” spokesperson J.P. Freire told The Times.

[Continues . . . (http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/332321-epa-dismisses-five-scientists-from-major-review-board-report)]
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Sandra Craft on May 09, 2017, 12:07:38 AM
^^^ Bannon said, right up front, that his goal was to destroy the Government from within and it seems, whether Bannon himself is in or out, Trump is going ahead with that plan.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on May 09, 2017, 09:03:44 AM
This is just nauseating. "EPA dismisses five scientists from major review board: report" | The Hill (http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/332321-epa-dismisses-five-scientists-from-major-review-board-report)

Quote
The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) has dismissed at least five academic members of one of its scientific review boards and may replace them with representatives from industries the EPA regulates, according to The New York Times.

A spokesperson for EPA Administrator Scott Pruitt said Pruitt is considering replacing the five scientists with representatives of industries whose pollution the EPA polices.

“The administrator believes we should have people on this board who understand the impact of regulations on the regulated community,” spokesperson J.P. Freire told The Times.

[Continues . . . (http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/332321-epa-dismisses-five-scientists-from-major-review-board-report)]
I find this actually frightening, hints of the mad being in charge of the sanatorium. Greed will be the only winner.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Davin on May 09, 2017, 03:29:46 PM
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/my-detailed-plan-to-destroy-the-people-that-voted-for-me-lol-suckers

Very curious that Trumps link would be so honest and on the nose.

Spoiler: ShowHide
Apparently it's just a stupidly designed way to navigate traffic, you can put in just about anything and it will link to that page without even changing the url.

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/fuck-poor-and-old-people-i-am-getting-fucking-rich

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/the-people-that-voted-for-me-are-suckers-getting-fucked-in-the-ass-by-this-bill-in-particular
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Arturo on May 09, 2017, 07:23:11 PM
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/my-plan-to-make-america-great-again
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on May 09, 2017, 07:55:28 PM
Oh, dear, some spoilsport in the Trump Shite House seems to have caught on - returns an error 404 nessage now! :(
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Magdalena on May 09, 2017, 08:06:48 PM
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/my-detailed-plan-to-destroy-the-people-that-voted-for-me-lol-suckers

Very curious that Trumps link would be so honest and on the nose.

Spoiler: ShowHide
Apparently it's just a stupidly designed way to navigate traffic, you can put in just about anything and it will link to that page without even changing the url.

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/fuck-poor-and-old-people-i-am-getting-fucking-rich

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/the-people-that-voted-for-me-are-suckers-getting-fucked-in-the-ass-by-this-bill-in-particular


https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/my-plan-to-make-america-great-again

Why do I get: 404 - Page not Found with all those links?  :(
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Davin on May 09, 2017, 08:12:42 PM
Yeah, they finally fixed it. It was fun while it lasted.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: xSilverPhinx on May 11, 2017, 02:20:44 AM
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on May 11, 2017, 07:30:17 AM
^  :heyhey:
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on May 13, 2017, 04:30:04 PM
In case the sacking of the FBI chief confuses you . . .


I have to admit I have lost travk of the Trump's excuses reasons for this, not thst I had much respect for Comey's actions.

America is seemingly now governed on the basis of the personal opinions and biases of the man in the White House.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: joeactor on May 16, 2017, 08:35:46 PM
Dead Presidents on Trump: Richard M. Nixon...

Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Davin on May 16, 2017, 08:47:12 PM
Well, it took like two years for Nixon, Trump is still on course to break the record.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: joeactor on May 16, 2017, 08:59:57 PM
Well, it took like two years for Nixon, Trump is still on course to break the record.
[/quote

He's an overachiever, for sure...
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Davin on May 16, 2017, 09:02:04 PM
Well, it took like two years for Nixon, Trump is still on course to break the record.

He's an overachiever, for sure...

I'm still worried that nothing will happen.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on May 16, 2017, 09:17:59 PM
Well, looking around for the news on what Trump told the Russians I liked this prediction by Reuters:

Quote
President Donald Trump disclosed highly classified information to Russia's foreign minister about a planned Islamic State operation, two U.S. officials said on Monday, plunging the White House into another controversy just months into Trump's short tenure in office.
(My bold)
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-idUSKCN18B2MX

I am sure what the meant was something like "... just two short months into Trump's tenure in office." Only a slight shift of wors but a big shift in meaning!

So, were these big secrets or commonly known facts? Dunno yet, but blabber, or is it "blather", mouth seems quite likely to blab stuff just to boost his own importance.

On the other hand working closely with the Russians against the so-called IS could pay dividends - if honesty is applied by both sides.

Oh, shit, forget I suggested that . . . Honesty, or at least transparency, and any kind of politics are not comfortable companions.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Essie Mae on May 16, 2017, 09:32:41 PM
None of it seems real from here in UK. Every time I see him on TV, the phrase 'Pretend President' springs to my mind. Surely he won't go the 4-year distance?
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on May 16, 2017, 09:40:49 PM
None of it seems real from here in UK. Every time I see him on TV, the phrase 'Pretend President' springs to my mind. Surely he won't go the 4-year distance?

I agree, keep thinking it is something from the pen of a new Pratchett or one of the authors of the "comedy dystopia" genre books.

Just it isn't and the whole world could suffer if it goes wrong. I do notice that American high ranking armed forces and government officers are, sort of, getting more politically active. In some, once or still, authoritarian countries that can be a sign of an up-coming coup of some sort. Trump is an authoritarian.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Essie Mae on May 16, 2017, 10:02:38 PM
Agreed. You couldn't make him up.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on May 16, 2017, 10:18:19 PM
Agreed. You couldn't make him up.

You could, but you would have to be a bloody good author with a weird and warped sense of humour.

Neil Gaiman might manage it! :D
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Harmonie on May 16, 2017, 11:16:18 PM
Trump scandals are all over the news 24/7. This man is a walking scandal. Get him out of office before he does more damage. Lord knows he's already done more than enough.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: joeactor on May 17, 2017, 01:12:09 AM
BTW, we're now on page 45... about Dolt 45.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Icarus on May 17, 2017, 01:36:43 AM
Yet, there are many staunch defenders of our president who imitates a first grader with a debilitating head injury.  That is not a reality that gives me confidence in the short term destiny of my beloved country.

There is hope, as thin as it may be. Some of the republican establishment congress people are beginning to catch a glimmer of the light at the end of the tunnel.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on May 17, 2017, 06:42:25 AM
There is hope, as thin as it may be. Some of the republican establishment congress people are beginning to catch a glimmer of the light at the end of the tunnel.
Actually I think they are seeing the Stygian darkness at the end of the Trump Tunnel.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: joeactor on May 17, 2017, 02:27:55 PM
Dead Presidents on Trump: Ronald Reagan
(15 seconds of must-see TV!)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Davin on May 17, 2017, 03:17:50 PM
BTW, we're now on page 45... about Dolt 45.
I like the "Orange 45" moniker because sounds like some kind of chemical weapon. Like Agent Orange.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Tank on May 17, 2017, 03:24:16 PM
Clot 45, a typo that scares the world.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on May 17, 2017, 04:07:21 PM

Love the group's name!
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Papasito Bruno on May 17, 2017, 10:25:31 PM
Imagine going to the Coast Guard Academy and enduring all of the training necessary to serve your country, and a billionaire who's also a five-time draft dodger comes on your day of graduation to complain about his fucking life.


Trump Cries Victim In Speech To Coast Guard Grads: ‘No Politician Has Been Treated Worse’ (VIDEO) (http://freakoutnation.com/2017/05/trump-cries-victim-in-speech-to-coast-guard-grads-no-politician-has-been-treated-worse-video/)


What a fucking snowflake.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: xSilverPhinx on May 17, 2017, 10:27:25 PM
^By now it's no secret that Trump is as thin-skinned as they come. What a wimp.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Papasito Bruno on May 18, 2017, 02:21:59 PM
Imagine going to the Coast Guard Academy and enduring all of the training necessary to serve your country, and a billionaire who's also a five-time draft dodger comes on your day of graduation to complain about his fucking life.


Trump Cries Victim In Speech To Coast Guard Grads: ‘No Politician Has Been Treated Worse’ (VIDEO) (http://freakoutnation.com/2017/05/trump-cries-victim-in-speech-to-coast-guard-grads-no-politician-has-been-treated-worse-video/)


What a fucking snowflake.

Yesterday I left a similar comment on YouTube under a video praising what a wonderful speech Trump gave to the "Coast Guard".
A very large majority of the comments posted praised Trump, his speech, and the 'bigly" job he is doing as president, of course many of them simply said, "God Bless Trump", or "America is now blessed by god, etc..."

Under my comment was left the following: (Hidden because it's racist as shit)
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Nice huh? And not one of the "christians" who left comments about "god" took offense, in fact "jim wilson's" comment has 3 likes.

And I was in such a good mood this morning, sigh :-X
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: joeactor on May 18, 2017, 02:34:13 PM
Dead Presidents on Trump: George Washington (3 of 5)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Davin on May 18, 2017, 04:06:52 PM
^ :lol:

I wonder what Harrison would say, he also didn't accomplish any of his 100 day goals.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Magdalena on May 18, 2017, 05:17:29 PM
...
Under my comment was left the following: (Hidden because it's racist as shit)
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(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.pandawhale.com%2F76512-cowboy-shaking-head-NO-gif-UxZI.gif&hash=bec38cf4524a9eac9af6930c820a039699fc9fab)
That's not right.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: joeactor on May 18, 2017, 08:04:28 PM
^ :lol:

I wonder what Harrison would say, he also didn't accomplish any of his 100 day goals.

31 days ain't much at all... I guess Trump at least has that beat!
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Magdalena on May 19, 2017, 12:04:30 AM
:sad sigh:


(https://i.imgflip.com/1k5rzy.jpg)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Recusant on May 19, 2017, 12:37:21 PM
If reports are correct, the zombie-eyed granny starver (http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a19861/the-latest-in-zombie-eyed-granny-starving/) will be sooo pleased with Trump's budget proposals: "Trump Budget May Break Promise to Protect Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid" | Center on Budget and Policy Priorities (http://www.cbpp.org/blog/trump-budget-may-break-promise-to-protect-social-security-medicare-and-medicaid).

While we're on the subject of MAGA stomping on less fortunate citizens of the US, let's check in on what Cruella De Vil Betsy DeVos has been up to: "Is There a Point to All This Cruelty?" | Esquire (http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a55145/betsy-devos-education-cuts/)

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The cuts would come from eliminating at least 22 programs, some of which Trump outlined in March. Gone, for example, would be $1.2 billion for after-school programs that serve 1.6 million children, most of whom are poor, and $2.1 billion for teacher training and class-size reduction. The documents obtained by The Post — dated May 23, the day the president's budget is expected to be released — outline the rest of the cuts, including a $15 million program that provides child care for low-income parents in college; a $27 million arts education program; two programs targeting Alaska Native and Native Hawaiian students, totaling $65 million; two international education and foreign language programs, $72 million; a $12 million program for gifted students; and $12 million for Special Olympics education programs...

...The Trump administration would dedicate no money to a fund for student support and academic enrichment that is meant to help schools pay for, among other things, mental-health services, anti-bullying initiatives, physical education, Advanced Placement courses and science and engineering instruction. Congress created the fund, which totals $400 million this fiscal year, by rolling together several smaller programs. Lawmakers authorized as much as $1.65 billion, but the administration's budget for it in the next fiscal year is zero.

Is there a point to all this gratuitous cruelty? Why, yes, there is.

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The cuts would make space for investments in choice, including $500 million for charter schools, up 50 percent over current funding. The administration also wants to spend $250 million on "Education Innovation and Research Grants," which would pay for expanding and studying the impacts of vouchers for private and religious schools. It's not clear how much would be spent on research versus on the vouchers themselves.

[Continues . . . (http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a55145/betsy-devos-education-cuts/)]
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: joeactor on May 19, 2017, 05:22:04 PM
Dead Presidents on Trump: Andrew Jackson (4 of 5)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Magdalena on May 19, 2017, 05:25:05 PM
^^
Those videos are great, joeactor.  :lol:
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: joeactor on May 19, 2017, 06:09:41 PM
^^
Those videos are great, joeactor.  :lol:

Thanks! Only one left to go...
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: joeactor on May 20, 2017, 02:52:25 PM
Dead Presidents on Trump: Abraham Lincoln (5 of 5)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Magdalena on May 21, 2017, 09:49:42 PM
:worried:

Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: joeactor on May 22, 2017, 02:21:19 PM
Good one, Mags - I caught that the other day.

Of course, there's zero chance that Trump will do any of those things. Unless it's completely random.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: jumbojak on May 24, 2017, 06:56:03 PM
So, the trump regime recently imposed its first new tarrifs. On Canada! Step one is to tax lumber imports in an effort to help struggling dairy farmers in Wisconsin...
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: xSilverPhinx on May 24, 2017, 07:39:32 PM
So, the trump regime recently imposed its first new tarrifs. On Canada! Step one is to tax lumber imports in an effort to help struggling dairy farmers in Wisconsin...

Nonsense trumps good sense yet again, it seems.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: xSilverPhinx on May 25, 2017, 01:00:22 AM
Donald gets ready for his big boy trip (http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/low_concept/2017/05/my_first_big_boy_trip_by_donald_j_trump.html?utm_content=inf_10_2641_2&wpsrc=socialedge&tse_id=INF_f329ae60403c11e785b761b07d40d40a).
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Arturo on May 25, 2017, 01:50:43 AM
When he signed away your rights to know when your ISP gives away your internet usage habits, someone said if you're not doing anything wrong, you're okay. I've heard that before from my father about the phone taps infamously used by George Bush.

However I think this is different. They can now use this information to manipulate you and take out individuals and groups who "won't just get with the program". This is a hairline away from a dictatorship.

They can say it's for catching terrorists but from what Snowden showed us was that the only information they have is used for racial profiling. Which doesn't catch anyone (judging by the looks of all the homegrown attacks in the US) and might just make those in the information community cynical of those of a different ethnicity.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Magdalena on May 25, 2017, 04:16:39 PM
Donald gets ready for his big boy trip (http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/low_concept/2017/05/my_first_big_boy_trip_by_donald_j_trump.html?utm_content=inf_10_2641_2&wpsrc=socialedge&tse_id=INF_f329ae60403c11e785b761b07d40d40a).
:lol:
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Mr. Steve tells me Muslims are the bad guys, but General Jim says I have to be nice to them. It’s confusing!
...
But Ivanka said I should be brave. “Who’s my big brave boy?” Ivanka asked me.

“I am,” I said. “I’m a big brave boy.”
...
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Papasito Bruno on May 26, 2017, 06:06:04 PM
(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FnBeWVsN.jpg&hash=cfe2db643aeb6784f7f3b49b8b1a2faa367fbdac)


Trump is always right.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Icarus on May 26, 2017, 08:22:49 PM
^  8)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Magdalena on May 29, 2017, 07:37:36 AM
So, like, our president is back in the U.S. and tweeting like crazy... :worried:

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President Trump reclaimed his voice on Twitter on Sunday after a relatively quiet foreign trip where he didn’t hold a news conference and didn’t tweet much.

The common theme in the series featured complaints about news coverage of his administration. In a string of missives, Trump blasted stories based on anonymous sources as “fake news.”
...
Read tweets here, if you want:  :picard facepalm:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/05/28/trump-back-tweetstorm/102261912/
 (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/05/28/trump-back-tweetstorm/102261912/)

Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on May 29, 2017, 08:10:47 AM
There is a video clip in that link that shows Trump holding the PM of Montenegro back so he, Trump, can stand in the front line if the photo-op. Typical narcisistic behaviour. Youtube version:


And if you do not give the media your version of the "facts" they will certainly look for their own. It's the nature of the beast!
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Davin on May 30, 2017, 07:47:46 PM
Oh, Pink Floyd :D

http://www.democratizeus.com/2017/05/29/pink-floyd-unveils-massive-anti-trump-messages-latest-concert-great-video/
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on May 31, 2017, 04:06:51 PM
Just make sure you have covfefe (http://edition.cnn.com/2017/05/31/politics/covfefe-trump-coverage/) out there folks!
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on June 05, 2017, 06:50:19 PM
I can't find the ref but it seems, in defence of his incorrect  tweet about Sadiq Khan, President Shithead now claims the real words are actually made up in response. So he compounds his crime by his own words.

Diplomats, even retired ones, are usually diplomatic - but it seems they have limits, from The Express  (http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/813102/Donald-Trump-tweet-Sadiq-Khan-Twitter-Christopher-Meyer-Rebecca-Front)(not normally a rag I would source but, in this case, an eminently more accurate source than Presudent Shithead I would suggest)...

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Sir Christopher Meyer, the former British ambassador to the US, used some rather undiplomatic language in a Twitter message, saying the US President made him “puke”.

He wrote on the social networking site: “World leaders call for unity. Trump tweets the complete opposite… Let me be diplomatic. Trump makes me puke.”

Seems Shithead Jr is also a dab hand at misreading, or not reading at all, and misconstruing the words of others in his tweets. A true chip off the old turd following the family tradition.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/mar/22/donald-trump-jr-tweet-london-mayor-sadiq-khan

Just how much national and international embarrassment can the GOP soak up before they kick him out? Still, I suppose political power is political power no matter how you gain and keep it - within the law. Seems his poll ratings continue to fall.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Davin on June 05, 2017, 07:26:28 PM
Just how much national and international embarrassment can the GOP soak up before they kick him out? Still, I suppose political power is political power no matter how you gain and keep it - within the law. Seems his poll ratings continue to fall.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/
I think the Republicans are going to be riding Trump whether he succeeds or fails they'll only jump off near the end and either way will use him as a scapegoat to further themselves.

Whatever Trump is doing, it doesn't matter that much to the GOP, because they're still fulfilling many items off of their agenda using Trump as a smoke screen or instrument. It's true that they're not as unified as they were when they were against the scary black man who destroyed our country by cleaning up the mess they left behind the last time they had control, but they still get to do a lot of damage.

So I don't think there is anything that Trump can do to make most of the GOP jump ship. The only things that will get them to turn their backs on President Comrade Cuck, is to let it run its course. Preferably sooner by impeachment, but that only has a chance if people vote out all the Republicans they can.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on June 06, 2017, 08:45:21 PM
Perhaps the Independent (http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/donald-trump-dimmest-us-president-ever-personal-mobile-phone-number-security-concerns-a7766271.html) has an insightful look into Trump:

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Donald Trump might be the dimmest President the US has ever had

It should come as no surprise - and it has not - that he is sorely lacking in sophistication, knowledge of the world, understanding of government and a rudimentary grasp of economics
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President Donald Trump does not read - except in small doses and when his own name appears prominently. Prior to the presidency, his only activities were work and golf. He does not mingle with intellectuals, cultural trend-setters or artists.

It should come as no surprise - and it has not - that he is sorely lacking in sophistication, knowledge of the world, understanding of government and a rudimentary grasp of economics.

Sitting atop arguably the great resource on the planet - the body of knowledge retained by American government experts on everything from economics to medicine to military history - he remains blissfully ignorant on a range of subjects.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Davin on June 06, 2017, 08:49:23 PM
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[...]he remains blissfully ignorant on a range of subjects.
He doesn't seem very blissful.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on June 06, 2017, 08:51:36 PM
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[...]he remains blissfully ignorant on a range of subjects.
He doesn't seem very blissful.
:grin:

Language is such a slippery thing...
(Especially English, one of its best features!)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Papasito Bruno on June 08, 2017, 06:50:43 PM
(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FefoNVkm.jpg&hash=b1e6d5692d8b7578c71e1f47e4f2f97a96ab659d)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Tank on June 08, 2017, 07:26:22 PM
The more he plays golf the less damage he can do. Don't knock it!
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on June 09, 2017, 02:15:53 PM
Good article on Ol' Tweety Pie in the Sydney Morning Herald. (http://www.smh.com.au/comment/donald-trumps-tweets-are-no-longer-quirky--theyre-worrying-and-potentially-dangerous-20170608-gwn3og.html)

As they say foreign governments are going to judge Anerica by the content of Trump's tweets, since there is little of any diplomatic consequence coming out of the Trump Shite House. If nothing else there will probably be contempt for the man and that will reflect on the country that voted him into power.

And he is still intent on getting his own placemen in influencual positions it seems:

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So on Wednesday Trump was able to tweet, without first informing Congress or anyone else it seems, that he would nominate Christopher Wray, whom he described as "a man of impeccable credentials", as the next director of the FBI.

If his nominee was checked out, the process would have revealed that Wray is currently a partner with King & Spalding, a global law firm that includes among its clients the Russian state-owned oil company Rosneft.

In 2013, King & Spalding advised Rosneft on its takeover of TNK-BP, a $US55 billion-dollar deal that made Rosneft the largest listed oil producer in the world. The deal was finalised at Vladimir Putin's mansion, according to a report in The Guardian newspaper that was accompanied by photos of the smiling Russian president shaking hands with the BP and Rosneft chiefs.

Now who is to say there is anything wrong with a partner from this firm heading the FBI while it investigates the Trump campaign's dealings with Russia? It's just that we might all feel a bit more comfortable if someone other than the tweeting President had even known about this.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Davin on June 09, 2017, 06:41:07 PM
Looks like Trump's new lawyer might be just as good as his doctor.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: joeactor on June 09, 2017, 07:02:35 PM
Looks like Trump's new lawyer might be just as good as his doctor.
:o ;D :-\
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Arturo on June 09, 2017, 10:36:40 PM
F. Get Oranger

Edit: oops
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on June 20, 2017, 07:49:33 PM
Trump's lawyers now have their own lawyers, as the man says, "...and you need layers of lawyers when you're a liar."

Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: joeactor on June 20, 2017, 10:57:17 PM
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Recusant on June 21, 2017, 12:48:35 AM
The civil rights policies of the Trump administration are being scrutinized: "Civil Rights Commission Will Launch Two-Year Probe of Trump Administration" | NBC (http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/civil-rights-commission-will-launch-two-year-probe-trump-administration-n773541)

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President Trump is under many microscopes right now.

Not only did he allude through a tweet on Friday that he is the subject of an internal investigation by special counsel, but on the same day, an independent federal agency commissioned under Congress also said “grave concerns” were prompting an investigation into federal civil rights enforcement within his administration.

The United States Commission on Civil Rights, a bipartisan agency charged with advising the president and Congress on civil rights matters, unanimously approved a comprehensive two-year probe into the “degree to which current budgets and staffing levels allow civil rights offices to perform” their functions within the administration, said the agency in a statement.

The federal watchdog group became concerned about the Trump administration after several agencies announced budget and personnel cuts in departments that oversee civil rights. The "proposed cuts would result in a dangerous reduction of civil rights enforcement across the country, leaving communities of color, LGBT people, older people, people with disabilities, and other marginalized groups exposed to greater risk of discrimination," said the statement.

The commission, created under the Civil Rights Act and funded by Congress, expressed specific worry in seven agencies under the president, including the Department of Education and the Department of Justice.

The “repeated refusal” of Education Secretary Betsy DeVos to commit to enforcing federal civil rights during Congressional testimony coupled with deep budget cuts within the agency’s Office of Civil Rights is “particularly troubling,” the agency added in the statement.

[Continues . . . (http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/civil-rights-commission-will-launch-two-year-probe-trump-administration-n773541)]
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Arturo on June 21, 2017, 02:27:12 AM
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While the commission does not have the ability to enforce the findings of its investigation, it will present the final report to Congress at the end of 2019. After that, it’s up to legislators to act.

By that time the damage will be done!!!
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on June 21, 2017, 08:42:51 AM
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While the commission does not have the ability to enforce the findings of its investigation, it will present the final report to Congress at the end of 2019. After that, it’s up to legislators to act.

By that time the damage will be done!!!
And even then what odds on whether the legislators will -
A. Debate the findings out of existence or at least relevancy.
B. Shelve them for an indefinite period.
C. Turn them down.

Which will come first, civil rights or more rioting?
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Firebird on June 21, 2017, 04:55:55 PM
There was a special election in Georgia yesterday for a seat in the House of Representatives. It's a very conservative district, but the Democratic candidate was polling well, and the Democrats and other progressive organizations poured millions of dollars into the campaign, hoping to send a message that the people hate Trump and the Republicans enough to lose a seat in "friendly" territory. It was the most expensive House race ever, but the Republican candidate won easily. It was only 5% more, but a huge disappointment nonetheless. The Dems clearly have a major messaging issue if these people still choose Trump over them considering how much he's trying to hurt his own base.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Davin on June 21, 2017, 05:03:33 PM
The Democrats are not doing a good job at expressing how the Republicans are making things worse for everyone. They don't have to talk down to people, like some of them do, but they do have to make the message more consumable.

They could point to many bills that their opponents supported and voted for and what those bills and laws mean to the people. that would work for a lot of them.

At least that's what I think they should do.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Arturo on June 21, 2017, 06:38:47 PM
The Democrats are not doing a good job at expressing how the Republicans are making things worse for everyone. They don't have to talk down to people, like some of them do, but they do have to make the message more consumable.

They could point to many bills that their opponents supported and voted for and what those bills and laws mean to the people. that would work for a lot of them.

At least that's what I think they should do.

I think conservatives only care about what works for them personally or for their family. So individually, they want a government that bows to their every need on  a personal level.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Davin on June 21, 2017, 08:18:23 PM
The Democrats are not doing a good job at expressing how the Republicans are making things worse for everyone. They don't have to talk down to people, like some of them do, but they do have to make the message more consumable.

They could point to many bills that their opponents supported and voted for and what those bills and laws mean to the people. that would work for a lot of them.

At least that's what I think they should do.

I think conservatives only care about what works for them personally or for their family. So individually, they want a government that bows to their every need on  a personal level.
Yeah, that is why the Democrats have to show them how their representatives are hurting them personally. There was an AHCA ad I saw last night that seemed to go in the right direction by showing that under the AHCA, they will be spending more money for less service.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Arturo on June 21, 2017, 08:49:09 PM
The Democrats are not doing a good job at expressing how the Republicans are making things worse for everyone. They don't have to talk down to people, like some of them do, but they do have to make the message more consumable.

They could point to many bills that their opponents supported and voted for and what those bills and laws mean to the people. that would work for a lot of them.

At least that's what I think they should do.

I think conservatives only care about what works for them personally or for their family. So individually, they want a government that bows to their every need on  a personal level.
Yeah, that is why the Democrats have to show them how their representatives are hurting them personally. There was an AHCA ad I saw last night that seemed to go in the right direction by showing that under the AHCA, they will be spending more money for less service.

I was going to say, wasn't the AHCA the one signed under Obama? But now I see...

Also is it this ad?
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Papasito Bruno on June 23, 2017, 06:38:34 PM
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Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: xSilverPhinx on June 24, 2017, 01:05:32 AM

I would love to see Trump diagnosed with dementia.

Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Arturo on June 24, 2017, 04:14:22 AM

I would love to see Trump diagnosed with dementia.

I could see that being true. He can't read from videos I've seen. (explains covfefe) Plus videos of him in 2003 make him seem like an okay guy. Don't even need to mention his physical health.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Papasito Bruno on June 27, 2017, 03:48:46 PM
(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F8KBEalR.jpg&hash=8c317c598b1cebbc398dac2d614f68f83a473b81)



(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FZZoRYUm.jpg&hash=b7e3cdeda5a54a52a0ea473dfb409e56f9af72d5)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: xSilverPhinx on June 30, 2017, 01:14:25 PM
(https://i.giphy.com/media/mpfMDb6MB6EWQ/giphy.webp)

Looks like Trump needs to change his nappy!
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Essie Mae on July 04, 2017, 02:47:11 AM
The man's surpassed himself: he's offered his help in the tragic Charlie Gard case, but denies continued health cover to millions of his own people.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Davin on July 11, 2017, 05:54:42 PM
https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/884789839522140166

So Don Jr. colluded with Russians.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on July 11, 2017, 07:02:26 PM
How worse can it get before they drop him?

Preferably from the top of Trump Tower . . . (Don't mean that, not really . . .   :grin: )
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Davin on July 11, 2017, 08:15:35 PM
It will only get bad enough, when the core supporters starts to dwindle. The center of that core will never switch over, but I think there will a be a point where a good portion of the supporters will weaken.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on July 11, 2017, 08:34:50 PM
It will only get bad enough, when the core supporters starts to dwindle. The center of that core will never switch over, but I think there will a be a point where a good portion of the supporters will weaken.

[conspiracy theory:]
Trouble is those who initially support someone do not like losing face by publically dropping that person. Trump is not really in charge and they will let him bumble on so long as he does them no pereonal damage - whilst they play their games behind the headlines. Never mind that the whole country is going down the tubes, their money is elsewhere! [/conspiracy theory]

In my experience in industry I have seen senior managers supporting obvious idiot middle managers because a) they appointed them and don't like admitting they made a mistake, and/or, b) keep the idiot there because he/she is not a challenge. Meanwhile the company operates at a low level of efficiency/profit (and it is the worker's fault). Not a direct analogy here but a similar mindset maybe.

The Peter Principle (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_principle) applies to all.

I would love to hear what Pence says to Trump's face - and behind his back. Bet the latter is not terribly christian.

Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: xSilverPhinx on July 11, 2017, 09:54:10 PM
https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/884789839522140166

So Don Jr. colluded with Russians.

*blink* *blink*

I...not...so...sure his IQ is higher than that of a slimy slug. :notsure:

This is great entertainment! I'd bet no reality show has that kind of twist! 
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Arturo on July 11, 2017, 09:59:04 PM
https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/884789839522140166

So Don Jr. colluded with Russians.

*blink* *blink*

I...not...so...sure his IQ is higher than that of a slimy slug. :notsure:

This is great entertainment! I'd bet no reality show has that kind of twist!

Just saved that part on the "waybackmachine"

Get rekt https://web.archive.org/web/20170711205754/https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/884789839522140166
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Davin on July 19, 2017, 09:21:47 PM
There's nothing really about the whole Russia thing, except:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Keep_Track/comments/6oaulo/i_added_links_to_the_copy_pasta/?st=j5beih9q&sh=6a700ff4
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Arturo on July 19, 2017, 11:51:20 PM
There's nothing really about the whole Russia thing, except:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Keep_Track/comments/6oaulo/i_added_links_to_the_copy_pasta/?st=j5beih9q&sh=6a700ff4

(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F6P1D3p8.gifhttp%3A%2F%2Fstatic.gamespot.com%2Fuploads%2Foriginal%2F428%2F4283637%2F2425156-the%2Brock%2Bclapping.gif&hash=d6ff8c9f3e7fdcd0c6e85fce3c4b41e936f9f286)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Papasito Bruno on July 22, 2017, 08:33:30 PM
I would wear this shirt.
(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FW3PdWxe.jpg&hash=334c6fb3cc4cb5b60ea46650b3c056551faf64d4)

...and this is funny, "Senor Estupido"!

(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FUYwfJIL.jpg&hash=f174193d4ff33ae448fb37a275bba916ed84e435)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on July 23, 2017, 10:39:47 AM
If I were American I would wear one as well, FB!

Trump is trumping himself I think. Seems he is checking out his powers to pardon in case the Russian Connection investigstion goes against him. Thus he might be able to allow his family and advisors to evade justice if they are found "guilty".

Seems he is also trying to establish grounds to pardon himself, but all the pundits and academics seem to think that is not possible.

Once again, seems like the straw clutching of the drowning man. (Hmm, is it possible to clutch at straws and cover your arse at the same time? Interesting problem!)

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jul/21/donald-trumps-lawyers-investigating-special-counsel-robert-muellers-team

Quote
Senator Mark Warner speaks out as reports emerge that US president’s lawyers are seeking to discredit Robert Mueller’s Russia investigation

News just in that Congress has taken action to curb Trump's attempts to reduce the sanctions on Russia. Also that Scaramucci has delted his earlier Tweets that disagreed with Trumpian policies. Says he wants to, "Start a clean sheet"; or is it an attempt to stop others using them to bite his ass? Betcha someone has a record of them!

What a team, eh?
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on July 23, 2017, 10:48:32 AM
Will, "The Russian Connection" be a future film title I wonder? Current events, Trumpwise, are certainly more like a film fantasy than real life!
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Arturo on July 25, 2017, 01:44:18 PM
This is the text in which CNN recorded of Kushner's statment.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/07/24/politics/jared-kushner-statement-russia-2016-election/index.html
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on July 25, 2017, 02:14:10 PM
OK, I am getting the feeling that business types make virtually incompetent statesmen and global politicians, even worse than attorney and lawyer types. Don't think ou cannot run a country, especially one like the States, as you would run a company. Compsnies are not drmoceacies - international affairs are so in the respect that the other major players get to take their balls home if they don't like the rules.

Unfortunately . . .
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Asmodean on July 25, 2017, 02:28:38 PM
Yes. However, I do think that the concept of running a country like a business is appealing to a lot of people on a more-or-less superficial "That sounds about right" kind of level. It's not unique to the United States, but with business being an integral part of the "American dream" I can see why the idea took hold there.

A voter does not have to be right - just cast the ballot.

...And I may just have quoted myself. Although I suspect that I'm not the first to voice this exact sentiment.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Davin on July 25, 2017, 03:29:59 PM
There is some kind of concerning epidemic hitting the current administration and many members of Congress. Why aren't we doing something about this outbreak of memory loss?
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: joeactor on July 27, 2017, 12:33:04 AM
Here's the Liberal Redneck's take on Trump and the Transgender Military ban:
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Sandra Craft on July 27, 2017, 12:48:28 AM
^^^ Yup.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on July 27, 2017, 08:28:57 AM
^
^
Put a little more scatalogically than a Brit might do so but, even stripped of all that, the man talks sense!
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Recusant on August 01, 2017, 05:42:59 PM
(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FdQuhtES.gif&hash=95e53f7dd271c3b0ca2a46919826c18d73814341)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on August 01, 2017, 06:38:19 PM
Trump's analysis of the Scaramucci getyjng the boot:

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Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
A great day at the White House!
11:19 pm · 31 Jul 2017

So, why was he put in there in the first place?

Is he going yo give up tweeting?

Quote
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
Only the Fake News Media and Trump enemies want me to stop using Social Media (110 million people). Only way for me to get the truth out!

Hang on, are his spokes people and press people really happy?  If his tweets are the only truth then is the rest of the Trump Shite House output also twaddle (well, mostly seems it is . . .)?

Waiting with interest to see the new man's policies and how long the Trump puts up with them. Just can't understand why any intelligent person would join that bunch - unless they had a vocational drive to save - er - something.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: xSilverPhinx on August 01, 2017, 10:45:15 PM
(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FdQuhtES.gif&hash=95e53f7dd271c3b0ca2a46919826c18d73814341)

:rofl:
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on August 03, 2017, 05:20:37 PM
Oh, dear, yet more Trumpentine leaks! This time transcripts of his conversations with the president of Mexuco and the Australian PM.

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Trump urged Mexican president to end his public defiance on border wall, transcript reveals

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/you-cannot-say-that-to-the-press-trump-urged-mexican-president-to-end-his-public-defiance-on-border-wall-transcript-reveals/2017/08/03/0c2c0a4e-7610-11e7-8f39-eeb7d3a2d304_story.html?utm_term=.9e9959a12f81

The pit gets deeper yet...
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Magdalena on August 03, 2017, 08:16:32 PM
Oh, dear, yet more Trumpentine leaks! This time transcripts of his conversations with the president of Mexuco and the Australian PM.

Quote
Trump urged Mexican president to end his public defiance on border wall, transcript reveals

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/you-cannot-say-that-to-the-press-trump-urged-mexican-president-to-end-his-public-defiance-on-border-wall-transcript-reveals/2017/08/03/0c2c0a4e-7610-11e7-8f39-eeb7d3a2d304_story.html?utm_term=.9e9959a12f81

The pit gets deeper yet...
Oh boy...That's our Trumpa-Loompa.  :picard facepalm:
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Recusant on August 03, 2017, 11:35:18 PM
Ah well, the conservative National Review has some writers that aren't big fans.

"Death of a F***ing Salesman" (http://www.nationalreview.com/article/449988/donald-trump-cant-close-deal-failing-salesman)

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Trump is the political version of a pickup artist, and Republicans — and America — went to bed with him convinced that he was something other than what he is. Trump inherited his fortune but describes himself as though he were a self-made man.

He has had a middling career in real estate and a poor one as a hotelier and casino operator but convinced people he is a titan of industry. He has never managed a large, complex corporate enterprise, but he did play an executive on a reality show. He presents himself as a confident ladies’ man but is so insecure that he invented an imaginary friend to lie to the New York press about his love life and is now married to a woman who is open and blasé about the fact that she married him for his money. He fixates on certain words (“negotiator”) and certain classes of words (mainly adjectives and adverbs, “bigly,” “major,” “world-class,” “top,” and superlatives), but he isn’t much of a negotiator, manager, or leader. He cannot negotiate a health-care deal among members of a party desperate for one, can’t manage his own factionalized and leak-ridden White House, and cannot lead a political movement that aspires to anything greater than the service of his own pathetic vanity.

[Continues . . . (http://www.nationalreview.com/article/449988/donald-trump-cant-close-deal-failing-salesman)]
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Arturo on August 03, 2017, 11:48:53 PM
Maybe this is hell and we are all Trump's personal demons.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Icarus on August 04, 2017, 12:07:02 AM
This kinda' fun and somewhat pedantic humor....wait, it is not humor, it is reality. http://www.nationalreview.com/article/449974/donald-trump-diminishing-presidency-good?target=topic&tid=1707
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on August 04, 2017, 06:15:50 AM
This kinda' fun and somewhat pedantic humor....wait, it is not humor, it is reality. http://www.nationalreview.com/article/449974/donald-trump-diminishing-presidency-good?target=topic&tid=1707

Wish I could write like George Will!
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Davin on August 04, 2017, 03:02:16 PM
Ah well, the conservative National Review has some writers that aren't big fans.

"Death of a F***ing Salesman" (http://www.nationalreview.com/article/449988/donald-trump-cant-close-deal-failing-salesman)
Yeah no shit... a bunch of us knew all of that well before the election.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on August 04, 2017, 09:19:20 PM
Big leaks and big (jack) boots to plug them?

Sessions has called down the wrath of, er, something, on the leakers in government, they WILL be caught and the WILL be punished.

But, he also says he will subpoena the media to name their sources - stage one in governmental control of the media. Seems a lot of people are agsinst that idea, mostly the usual subjects, but one commentator hinted that there might be those in Congress who would fight it.

Quote
Jeff Sessions gets slammed over Justice Department plan to cramp down on leaks
http://uk.businessinsider.com/doj-leaks-trump-jeff-sessions-press-freedom-2017-8?r=US&IR=T

Strikes me that the American people need, and have a right, to know about the shenanigans in Trump's Shite House.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Arturo on August 05, 2017, 04:33:34 AM
It's just a move to further discredit television media. Which I never heard one person say something good about but yet they keep watching it.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on August 05, 2017, 07:56:31 AM
It's just a move to further discredit television media. Which I never heard one person say something good about but yet they keep watching it.

I don't!  :grin:
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Arturo on August 05, 2017, 04:55:33 PM
It's just a move to further discredit television media. Which I never heard one person say something good about but yet they keep watching it.

I don't!  :grin:

FINALLY SOMEONE WITH SOME SENSE! TRUST IN HUMANITY RESTORED!!!
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: xSilverPhinx on August 05, 2017, 08:19:05 PM
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Arturo on August 09, 2017, 06:12:32 PM
Was about to work out at the gym when this popped up - FBI conducted predawn raid of former Trump campaign chairman Manafort’s home

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/fbi-conducted-predawn-raid-of-former-trump-campaign-chairman-manaforts-home/2017/08/09/5879fa9c-7c45-11e7-9d08-b79f191668ed_story.html

EDIT - Updated URL
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Magdalena on August 10, 2017, 04:43:54 PM
(https://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/b18ef4559fb2f31963f7f2f43c4b3de480f80377/c=0-0-5561-3142&r=x329&c=580x326/local/-/media/2017/08/09/USATODAY/USATODAY/636378952127090642-AFP-AFP-RF0JD-92944847.JPG)
An inflatable chicken mimicking US President Donald Trump is set up on The Ellipse, a 52-acre (21-hectare) park located just south of the White House and north of the Washington Monument (rear). (Photo: MANDEL NGAN, AFP/Getty Images)


This man put up a giant chicken balloon with Trump-like hair near White House. Here's why...
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2017/08/09/chicken-balloon-trump-esque-hair-seen-next-white-house/553974001/ (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2017/08/09/chicken-balloon-trump-esque-hair-seen-next-white-house/553974001/)
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A giant, inflatable chicken that has Trump-esque hair was spotted near the White House on Wednesday.

Yes, seriously.

The chicken balloon, designed by Seattle artist Casey Latiolais and produced in China, was placed on the Ellipse, just south of the White House and near the Washington Monument.

Balloon owner and documentary filmmaker Taran Singh Brar said he wanted to make a statement about the president being a "weak and ineffective leader."

"He's too afraid to release his tax returns, too afraid to stand up to Vladimir Putin and playing chicken with North Korea," he said.

...

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGzu2grWAAAmTaX.jpg)

 :lol:
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Davin on August 10, 2017, 04:55:46 PM
Maybe that will help against his twice a day positive news folders:
https://news.vice.com/story/trump-folder-positive-news-white-house

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Twice a day since the beginning of the Trump administration, a special folder is prepared for the president. The first document is prepared around 9:30 a.m. and the follow-up, around 4:30 p.m. Former Chief of Staff Reince Priebus and former Press Secretary Sean Spicer both wanted the privilege of delivering the 20-to-25-page packet to President Trump personally, White House sources say.

These sensitive papers, described to VICE News by three current and former White House officials, don’t contain top-secret intelligence or updates on legislative initiatives. Instead, the folders are filled with screenshots of positive cable news chyrons (those lower-third headlines and crawls), admiring tweets, transcripts of fawning TV interviews, praise-filled news stories, and sometimes just pictures of Trump on TV looking powerful.

What a delicate little snowflake.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Magdalena on August 10, 2017, 05:11:27 PM
Maybe that will help against his twice a day positive news folders:
https://news.vice.com/story/trump-folder-positive-news-white-house

Quote
Twice a day since the beginning of the Trump administration, a special folder is prepared for the president. The first document is prepared around 9:30 a.m. and the follow-up, around 4:30 p.m. Former Chief of Staff Reince Priebus and former Press Secretary Sean Spicer both wanted the privilege of delivering the 20-to-25-page packet to President Trump personally, White House sources say.
(https://media.giphy.com/media/l4Ho77ZnvjRes42CA/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Arturo on August 11, 2017, 12:44:11 AM
BAHAHAHA THAT'S EVEN MORE FUNNY THAN THE CHICKEN
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on August 14, 2017, 05:59:51 PM
I have just listened to Trump saying that "we all need to love one another" in what sounds like an attempt to make up for his initial reaction to Charlottesville.

Why do I feel like I need a long, hot bath, some strong soap and a stiff scrubbing brush?
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: joeactor on August 14, 2017, 08:04:34 PM
I have just listened to Trump saying that "we all need to love one another" in what sounds like an attempt to make up for his initial reaction to Charlottesville.

Why do I feel like I need a long, hot bath, some strong soap and a stiff scrubbing brush?

Yep. Dirty, dirty, dirty.

Here's my summation: "Hey! The Economy's great! You can thank me for that... oh, and Nazi's are apparently a bad thing. Very bad. Uh, what else? Oh, yeah, something about a dead person."
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Arturo on August 14, 2017, 08:12:37 PM
Have you ever watched J Joana Jameson from the original Spider-Man movies? His character reminds me of Donald. I also saw a thing that said the original character in the comics was based on Stan Lee.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: joeactor on August 14, 2017, 08:46:39 PM
Have you ever watched J Joana Jameson from the original Spider-Man movies? His character reminds me of Donald. I also saw a thing that said the original character in the comics was based on Stan Lee.

Interesting note about Stan Lee.

I don't see The Donald like JJ Jameson, though. JJ's too directed and angry. Plus, he actually gets things done and runs a successful business ;-)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Magdalena on August 14, 2017, 09:41:01 PM
I don't see The Donald like JJ Jameson, though. JJ's too directed and angry. Plus, he actually gets things done and runs a successful business ;-)
(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Freplygif.net%2Fi%2F423.gif&hash=638f2db1eaca0d03e427d0345d2c3912d2885357)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Arturo on August 14, 2017, 11:51:13 PM
I guess Donald called out the nazis and kkk? What exactly did he say?
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: joeactor on August 15, 2017, 12:51:35 AM
I guess Donald called out the nazis and kkk? What exactly did he say?

Here's my summation (from above): "Hey! The Economy's great! You can thank me for that... oh, and Nazi's are apparently a bad thing. Very bad. Uh, what else? Oh, yeah, something about a dead person."
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Arturo on August 15, 2017, 01:04:13 AM
I guess Donald called out the nazis and kkk? What exactly did he say?

Here's my summation (from above): "Hey! The Economy's great! You can thank me for that... oh, and Nazi's are apparently a bad thing. Very bad. Uh, what else? Oh, yeah, something about a dead person."

Ahh ok. I wasn't sure if that was the same thing. So is there a video of it somewhere?
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: joeactor on August 15, 2017, 01:08:08 AM
I guess Donald called out the nazis and kkk? What exactly did he say?

Here's my summation (from above): "Hey! The Economy's great! You can thank me for that... oh, and Nazi's are apparently a bad thing. Very bad. Uh, what else? Oh, yeah, something about a dead person."

Ahh ok. I wasn't sure if that was the same thing. So is there a video of it somewhere?

Sure! Here's all 5 minutes:
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Arturo on August 15, 2017, 01:39:43 AM
I guess Donald called out the nazis and kkk? What exactly did he say?

Here's my summation (from above): "Hey! The Economy's great! You can thank me for that... oh, and Nazi's are apparently a bad thing. Very bad. Uh, what else? Oh, yeah, something about a dead person."

Ahh ok. I wasn't sure if that was the same thing. So is there a video of it somewhere?

Sure! Here's all 5 minutes:

Hmm yeah he fails to say this womam was black and attaches the other identity of "American". Yes she's American but she's Black too! He's acting like a dictator who gives everyone the identity he wants them to have. And all this was to dodge the fact this was a racially motivated to kill blacks.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on August 15, 2017, 06:39:03 AM
I guess Donald called out the nazis and kkk? What exactly did he say?

Here's my summation (from above): "Hey! The Economy's great! You can thank me for that... oh, and Nazi's are apparently a bad thing. Very bad. Uh, what else? Oh, yeah, something about a dead person."

Ahh ok. I wasn't sure if that was the same thing. So is there a video of it somewhere?

Sure! Here's all 5 minutes:

Hmm yeah he fails to say this womam was black and attaches the other identity of "American". Yes she's American but she's Black too! He's acting like a dictator who gives everyone the identity he wants them to have. And all this was to dodge the fact this was a racially motivated to kill blacks.

Not on Trump's side but this can be a case of, "Damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation. If someone is "American" then their colour is irrelevant. If they are "African American" or "black American" then they are not the same as a "white American" or an "Asian American" or a "Native American" or . . .

So, do you want an American nation or a nation of different colours? Ideally the colour should be irrelevant, not worthy of mention, otherwise you will never have true equality.

OK, we are very far from the ideal as yet. Perhaps one day the term "black American" -will be used with the same disdain that "WASP" has earned.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on August 15, 2017, 07:33:24 AM
Further on my last:

If it is required that the murder victim, in the Charlotteville case, be labeled "black" then if she had been white is would be just as valid to label her such. But this encourages division, "them and us".

The headline, "Black police officer shoots white teenager," is just as valid as, "White police officer shoots black teenager" - each has the same potential, in the bigotted minds of either ethnic group, to drive the wedge further in. "The headline, "American police officer shoots American teenager," is probably never going to appear - it is, maybe and unfortunately, common enough as to be "not newsworthy" and (unless the "Teenage Lives Matter" movement is started) is not going to pander to bigotry and, thus, promote more newsworthy events like protests and riots.

To label a victim as simply "American" is perfectly accurate and inclusive.

However I somehow doubt that Trump himself worked out thst nuance, it was either an accident or by some speech writer with training in psychology or diversity.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Asmodean on August 15, 2017, 02:58:11 PM
So apparently, college kids are being all protesty over this Far-Right business. Yeah. Good and well. Organize counter-protests and what have you, but why outside the White House? That was not where them right-wingers had their rally, no?

I think they are all a bunch of fools, really... If you identify as a "person of color" (Which black is technically the absence of... Just a by-the-way for the pedantic sort of Asmo) or "white" or whatever before identifying as "American,"* sorry, but I can't see how you are a part of the solution to racism or other tribal bigotry in your society. I can easily see how you are a part of the problem though.

Morgan Freeman had the right idea in a video somewhere... Nope. Can't be bothered to look. Something about "Black history month" or some such bullshit.

*Another calrification for the pedantic sort of Asmo; What I mean is, if you identify in a way which divides people into "you" and "them" within your own society.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Arturo on August 15, 2017, 04:09:52 PM
I see where you guys are coming from. In all honesty I feel both ways have their good sides and bad. I have been thinking about this for awhile and I think this goes way back further than me. Being able to forge your identity is a right, at least for me. If everyone was the same then it would be very dystopian. At the same time, what you guys say is also true. There is no right answer it seems, only wrong ones.

Since we are on the subject of my viewpoint of identity forging, I'd like to share this:
Everyone is different in some way. Even identical twins are different in many ways. And I think that being different is something that adds value to one's life. It's what makes your uniqueness, your personality, add new things to other people's lives in which they never had before. It makes them new.

But as much as we are different, we are the same as many others. And we form groups with these people who are the same. We all have our own little cliques and some of us excel at some things more than others. So what I am proposing, is that these people who do not excel at certain things, be brought up to the same level as those who are magnificent at them. Then we can say that we have equal starting positions no? And this can, hypothetically, potentiate a more progressive society.

Note: I use "progressive" in a way that means people make successes in their lives.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on August 15, 2017, 04:26:43 PM
I see where you guys are coming from. In all honesty I feel both ways have their good sides and bad. I have been thinking about this for awhile and I think this goes way back further than me. Being able to forge your identity is a right, at least for me. If everyone was the same then it would be very dystopian. At the same time, what you guys say is also true. There is no right answer it seems, only wrong ones.

Since we are on the subject of my viewpoint of identity forging, I'd like to share this:
Everyone is different in some way. Even identical twins are different in many ways. And I think that being different is something that adds value to one's life. It's what makes your uniqueness, your personality, add new things to other people's lives in which they never had before. It makes them new.

But as much as we are different, we are the same as many others. And we form groups with these people who are the same. We all have our own little cliques and some of us excel at some things more than others. So what I am proposing, is that these people who do not excel at certain things, be brought up to the same level as those who are magnificent at them. Then we can say that we have equal starting positions no? And this can, hypothetically, potentiate a more progressive society.

Note: I use "progressive" in a way that means people make successes in their lives.

Ah, true philosophy! Needs a footnote to define the context in which a word is used to ensure accurate understanding!
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Arturo on August 15, 2017, 04:57:13 PM
As I was writing the above, I was thinking about how the Sioux would not name their children. Instead their children would names themselves after they go on their "vision quest". I wonder if a version of this could be adapted where people have no names or identifiers of any kind. However this would make it more difficult I would imagine in some ways that I am having trouble bringing to mind. But all I can think is "why do we need names for people?" I don't see any benefit to that other than to satisfy tribal instinct of "us and them". Maybe it would not reduce the instinct but make it more emotional? In which case that would make things worse I would think.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Asmodean on August 15, 2017, 09:18:14 PM
Yes... In large groups, I can easily see how institutionalised emotional bullshit, let's call it, may indeed make matters worse.

Thing is though, there is no problem with identifying as such-and-such. It's what you do with that identity and how much you let it control your life rather than controlling it yourself that plays the more prominent role in how much it will fuck you or someone else over.

To put it this way, I would self-identify as white if I was the only, or near enough, white person in a room, but to no other effect than to use it as a unique visual queue to make myself readily identifiable in that particular crowd. In much the same way, I would identify myself as tall in a company of dwarves, adult in the company of children and so on. That's perfectly benign. Doing the same among peers in whatever it may be though, well... You do risk ending up in an echo chamber and eventually increasing the gap between those peers and the "them." I'm not interested in that, and so identifying as A in the company of As is... An irrelevant exercise.

I'm not sure if I'm conveying my meaning with any semblance of clarity, so I think I'll give up for now.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: joeactor on August 15, 2017, 10:55:13 PM
BTW, if you haven't heard, T-Rump just undid everything in his prepared monkey-in-a-suit speech.

He's gone back to "all sides are at fault" and even coined the term "Alt-Left" (which is trending on twitter now)

Disgusting.

BTW, you might want a couple dozen of these stickers:
http://www.sirmitchell.com/product/45-sticker (http://www.sirmitchell.com/product/45-sticker)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Asmodean on August 16, 2017, 05:19:34 AM
BTW, if you haven't heard, T-Rump just undid everything in his prepared monkey-in-a-suit speech.

He's gone back to "all sides are at fault" and even coined the term "Alt-Left" (which is trending on twitter now)

Disgusting.

BTW, you might want a couple dozen of these stickers:
http://www.sirmitchell.com/product/45-sticker (http://www.sirmitchell.com/product/45-sticker)
I'll need to watch the thing, but his initial "on many sides" comment was (probably unintentionally) accurate. The left-leaning media were all like "Ooh! Them's be nazis in need of condemning" and the right were like "Fuckin' commies 'n shit!" but me, I thought that ideologies and buzzwords and orange intentions aside, well...

Not being a professional ideologue or agenda-pusher for any camp other than Camp The Asmo, I actually saw the protesting factions and the police and the politicians acting like shit and repressed or self-justified none of it. Trump was not wrong.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on August 16, 2017, 09:10:47 AM
BTW, if you haven't heard, T-Rump just undid everything in his prepared monkey-in-a-suit speech.

He's gone back to "all sides are at fault" and even coined the term "Alt-Left" (which is trending on twitter now)

Disgusting.

BTW, you might want a couple dozen of these stickers:
http://www.sirmitchell.com/product/45-sticker (http://www.sirmitchell.com/product/45-sticker)
I'll need to watch the thing, but his initial "on many sides" comment was (probably unintentionally) accurate. The left-leaning media were all like "Ooh! Them's be nazis in need of condemning" and the right were like "Fuckin' commies 'n shit!" but me, I thought that ideologies and buzzwords and orange intentions aside, well...

Not being a professional ideologue or agenda-pusher for any camp other than Camp The Asmo, I actually saw the protesting factions and the police and the politicians acting like shit and repressed or self-justified none of it. Trump was not wrong.
I agree that Trump was "not wrong" in his comment that implied violence, in demonstrations, is wrong regardless of who initiates it. I also think this was not exactly a thought out opinion.

It is just as bad to react with violence, in civil disturbance terms, as to initiate it. This is why I suggested the idea of no direct confrontation but rather "remoted" expression - direct confrontation almost inevitably gives rise to violence.  One wonders about the public and political reactions should an "anti-right" protester have used a car as a murder weapon.

I also think that the best way of causing the starting up of an "alt-left" movement is to start ranting against this, currently, unexpressed aspect.

But Trump definitely seems unable to let go of the shovel.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Asmodean on August 16, 2017, 10:08:48 AM
Yes. That one right there is a perfectly fair assessment, methink.

A couple of things to clear up a little though; When I said "not wrong," it could indeed be seen as true on multiple levels, but in that instance, I was talking about Mr. Trump ever-so-weakly and not-too-directly calling all the contributors to that mess to account. He should. I would throw in an identifier or two, just to be clear who I was talking both to and about, but then... I consider myself to be more eloquent an orator than Mr. Trump.

Also, just like the "regressive left" can be argued to have given birth to the alt-right, so can Mr. Trump's reaction to the actions of that movement be the spark that gives birth to the alt-left. One could, in fact, argue that at some point the birth of that or some other identifier to loosely unify "the Commie-ass factions" is inevitable in the current political climate - not just in the USA, but also in large parts of Europe.

Should that happen, I suggest a Colosseum type of scenario. The Asmo, He can be the bookie.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on August 16, 2017, 10:32:38 AM
Yes, there has been a general increase in "the right", bith in public movements and politucal shifts (Turkey, Venezuela...) in recent years. It could be argued that China and Korea and other "peoples' republics" could be also seen as "right winged" in their policies - little difference in the bittom line analysis.

Human nature could demand a backlash against both, further "political"  divisions in humanity to add to race and religion, nationslism, tribalism and so forth. It is almost certainly present, just not so coherent and cohesive in its manifestation as it was in the days of Stalin and McCarthy and their likes. But, this time, it will be more likely generated via an almost anonymous, insidious Internet campaign rather than by charismatic personalities.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Asmodean on August 16, 2017, 10:47:00 AM
It all starts with a meme... And then before you know it, we all drown in an ocean of diarrhea. That's how the globalized bits of today's world work. :sadnod:
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Davin on August 16, 2017, 03:13:45 PM
I'll need to watch the thing, but his initial "on many sides" comment was (probably unintentionally) accurate. The left-leaning media were all like "Ooh! Them's be nazis in need of condemning" and the right were like "Fuckin' commies 'n shit!" but me, I thought that ideologies and buzzwords and orange intentions aside, well...
How many sides were driving cars into crowds of other sides?
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Asmodean on August 16, 2017, 03:47:12 PM
I don't know. One, judging by the number of perps. Which faction(s) did the perp identify with? Which faction did those who assaulted the shit out of that other guy as he was about to speak on camera? Which faction withheld riot shields and truncheons from the scene? By which faction's order? Who broke the damned helicopter?
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Davin on August 16, 2017, 04:44:58 PM
Yeah, one drove his car into a crowd of people. He was aligned with the Nazis. This "both sides" bullshit is the new focus. While it's not new, it's the one of the attack strategies for the Russian pawns. While there are extremes on "both sides" that do similar things, one being logical will look at the aggregate instead of individual matches. It's like when Trump chumps were saying they couldn't rust Hillary because she lied a few times, but they support a guy who lies almost all the time because "both sides do it." It's mental.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Arturo on August 16, 2017, 04:46:16 PM
Which faction(s) did the perp identify with?

Quote
Derek Weimer, 45, told The Cincinnati Enquirer that Mr. Fields was one of his students when he taught history at Randall K. Cooper High School. He described Mr. Fields as “a very bright kid but very misguided and disillusioned.”

When Mr. Fields was a freshman, he wrote a report for another class that was “very much along the party lines of the neo-Nazi movement,” Mr. Weimer said.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/13/us/james-alex-fields-charlottesville-driver-.html
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Arturo on August 16, 2017, 04:51:12 PM
Yeah, one drove his car into a crowd of people. He was aligned with the Nazis. This "both sides" bullshit is the new focus. While it's not new, it's the one of the attack strategies for the Russian pawns. While there are extremes on "both sides" that do similar things, one being logical will look at the aggregate instead of individual matches. It's like when Trump chumps were saying they couldn't rust Hillary because she lied a few times, but they support a guy who lies almost all the time because "both sides do it." It's mental.

Yes when one tips the scales a bit, you should give that one a different judgment. Or a harsher judgment in those specific cases. And what I don't like is these white supremacists in the comment sections of YouTube are talking about how black people do more crime or muslims do more terror attacks. When clearly they are doing it. And provoking it by the looks of it by gearing up for another "rally"
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Asmodean on August 16, 2017, 05:51:05 PM
@Arturo Thanks for the citation. I have modified my labeling accordingly.

Yeah, one drove his car into a crowd of people. He was aligned with the Nazis. This "both sides" bullshit is the new focus. While it's not new, it's the one of the attack strategies for the Russian pawns. While there are extremes on "both sides" that do similar things, one being logical will look at the aggregate instead of individual matches. It's like when Trump chumps were saying they couldn't rust Hillary because she lied a few times, but they support a guy who lies almost all the time because "both sides do it." It's mental.
But both (Well, "all" is a better word here, actually, complete with quotation marks) sides do do it if you indeed aggregate the data, if with varying frequency and to varying degrees, depending on the singular instance you examine.

Don't get me wrong, I do see what you are saying - I'm just willing to blame more people for it, the president not excluded.

To put it this way, as I see it at this time, the murder there seems to have been an assault with deadly vehicle, resulting in death. It may be shown down the line that the guy planned to run some counter-protesters over Muzzietruck-style, which would make him a terrorist. It may also be shown that he's a fucking nutcase, barely aware of the consequences of his action, which would make him a nutcase. However, only if it's shown that his attack was coordinated with some party to the rally is that party complicit.

Perhaps he meant to kill a few people, perhaps he did not think that far. It's a moot point for now. However, Nazis riot and fuck people up. SJWs riot and fuck people up. Fucking Antifa riot and fuck people up. Confederates riot and fuck people up. They also did an armed rebellion, historically speaking. Pro-Trump crowds riot and fuck people up. Anti-Trump crowds riot and fuck people up. Sometimes, people get fucked up to death. My proposal is; is there not enough blame among rioters to go the fuck around?
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Arturo on August 16, 2017, 07:11:35 PM
Intention to incite fear doesn't mean it was premeditated.

Anyways. Does anyone even have a reference to the "aggregate data" in question?
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Asmodean on August 16, 2017, 07:42:17 PM
Certainly. For my side of the issue, there is plenty. Davin's being a subset of mine in that regard, same story there. It's not uncommon for protests to get violent, nor is it unprecedented for people to die as a result.

I'll provide a few citations when on a PC. Has me some bookmarks there.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Davin on August 17, 2017, 03:26:12 PM
Yeah, one drove his car into a crowd of people. He was aligned with the Nazis. This "both sides" bullshit is the new focus. While it's not new, it's the one of the attack strategies for the Russian pawns. While there are extremes on "both sides" that do similar things, one being logical will look at the aggregate instead of individual matches. It's like when Trump chumps were saying they couldn't rust Hillary because she lied a few times, but they support a guy who lies almost all the time because "both sides do it." It's mental.
But both (Well, "all" is a better word here, actually, complete with quotation marks) sides do do it if you indeed aggregate the data, if with varying frequency and to varying degrees, depending on the singular instance you examine.

Don't get me wrong, I do see what you are saying - I'm just willing to blame more people for it, the president not excluded.
Well, it's the implications of how it is said. It's akin to saying that there is nothing unhealthy with the water in Flynnt, MI because all drinking water has lead in it.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on August 23, 2017, 05:00:27 PM
Quote
"You don’t argue with a toddler if you want to win; don’t amplify the toddler’s voice, because you’ll just get trapped in the toddler’s world. Rather, just keep asking the toddler to elaborate, because logic is the downfall of every toddler." –Daily Show host Trevor Noah on handling Donald Trump
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Pasta Chick on August 23, 2017, 05:44:08 PM
There is a massive fucking difference in being violent because you hate other races, sexual orientations, genders, and other religions and reacting violently because you are a targeted race, sexual orientation, gender or religion and these assholes are trying to strip your rights and literally kill you.

Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on August 23, 2017, 06:31:50 PM
They interviewed a black woman who said she was carrying her baseball bat for defence. OK, no problem having your defence, though its form might be in question. And there is a distinct difference in form between a baseball bat and an AR47, but both could be viewed as "potential offensive weapons" out of their normal environment.

Unfortunately "open carry" is perfectly legal in some states whereas walking around with a baseball bat in the area of a demo might attract the attention of the police. If the anti-facist protesters want to defend themselves perhaps they should carry shields - with a suitable slogans on them.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Arturo on August 23, 2017, 09:44:50 PM
If the anti-facist protesters want to defend themselves perhaps they should carry shields - with a suitable slogans on them.

Because, you know, we just sell shields everywhere. There are other things I don't like with the idea of shields but I don't have time to elaborate right now.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Icarus on August 24, 2017, 01:07:51 AM
The Donald has stepped on his own dick again. He did a pretty well orchestrated speech about the planned Afghan procedure. The next day, at the Arizona speech he made a complete ass of himself by going way out in right field off script to denigrate the two Arizona senators who are not his toadies. He also assured the Arizonans in attendance that the  Beautiful Wall was a sure thing that would keep the illegal rapists out of Phoenix and Tempe, and also praised the fascist like sheriff Araipoa and his baloney sandwiches.  The crowd was enthralled by such eloquent oratory.

Meanwhile the Washington contingent is becoming more and more critical and threatening of the almost daily clown act.  This is the first time I have found myself on the side of Mitch McConnell who is visibly and vocally fed up with the Tweeter In Chief.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Icarus on August 24, 2017, 05:59:34 AM
An item of casual interest.....
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on August 24, 2017, 07:31:45 AM
If the anti-facist protesters want to defend themselves perhaps they should carry shields - with a suitable slogans on them.

Because, you know, we just sell shields everywhere. There are other things I don't like with the idea of shields but I don't have time to elaborate right now.
Not talking about police riot shields, more symbolic, home made ones - piece of wood and some rope. The symbolism is "We are prepared to confront and defend - we will leave the aggression up to you psychos."
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on August 24, 2017, 07:36:07 AM
An item of casual interest.....
I always thought he talked a load of hyperbollocks.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Arturo on August 24, 2017, 12:19:11 PM
If the anti-facist protesters want to defend themselves perhaps they should carry shields - with a suitable slogans on them.

Because, you know, we just sell shields everywhere. There are other things I don't like with the idea of shields but I don't have time to elaborate right now.
Not talking about police riot shields, more symbolic, home made ones - piece of wood and some rope. The symbolism is "We are prepared to confront and defend - we will leave the aggression up to you psychos."

Nobody is going to make that many shields. For one, nobody is going to angrily make shields when they could get a blunt force object. And this brings me to two, the idea is that to take care of bullies, you have to beat them up or they will never stop.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on August 24, 2017, 12:40:12 PM
If the anti-facist protesters want to defend themselves perhaps they should carry shields - with a suitable slogans on them.

Because, you know, we just sell shields everywhere. There are other things I don't like with the idea of shields but I don't have time to elaborate right now.
Not talking about police riot shields, more symbolic, home made ones - piece of wood and some rope. The symbolism is "We are prepared to confront and defend - we will leave the aggression up to you psychos."

Nobody is going to make that many shields. For one, nobody is going to angrily make shields when they could get a blunt force object. And this brings me to two, the idea is that to take care of bullies, you have to beat them up or they will never stop.

And so the cycle of violence in violence goes on... America seems to be ranked average on the "violent countries" scale, more violent than your northern neighbour but way less violent than the southern one!
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Arturo on August 24, 2017, 04:29:32 PM
If the anti-facist protesters want to defend themselves perhaps they should carry shields - with a suitable slogans on them.

Because, you know, we just sell shields everywhere. There are other things I don't like with the idea of shields but I don't have time to elaborate right now.
Not talking about police riot shields, more symbolic, home made ones - piece of wood and some rope. The symbolism is "We are prepared to confront and defend - we will leave the aggression up to you psychos."

Nobody is going to make that many shields. For one, nobody is going to angrily make shields when they could get a blunt force object. And this brings me to two, the idea is that to take care of bullies, you have to beat them up or they will never stop.

And so the cycle of violence in violence goes on... America seems to be ranked average on the "violent countries" scale, more violent than your northern neighbour but way less violent than the southern one!

Anything USA touches turns violent it seems like.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on August 24, 2017, 04:49:05 PM
Anything USA touches turns violent it seems like.
Then Canada must have had the peace vaccine!
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: jumbojak on August 25, 2017, 03:16:04 AM
Anything USA touches turns violent it seems like.
Then Canada must have had the peace vaccine!

Don't forget about the FLQ. Canada has had its share of violent extremists in recent memory.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Papasito Bruno on August 25, 2017, 08:15:07 PM
Someone rearrange the letters in a craft store, hopefully it was a "Hobby Lobby" location.

(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F9mskvca.jpg&hash=55f87394769c105441d8cf7448c76fb790820a6f)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Icarus on August 26, 2017, 05:19:12 AM
^ :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on August 26, 2017, 05:29:15 AM
Seems el Trumpo has pardonned that racist Arizonian sheriff who was convicted of criminal contempt of court. I am guilty of contempt of Trump!

Hey, looks like a T-shirt slogan there!
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Magdalena on August 27, 2017, 06:07:01 AM
Seems el Trumpo has pardonned that racist Arizonian sheriff who was convicted of criminal contempt of court.
...
(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F1R5pAXN.gif&hash=c924cce29642b879632f48143d548826cc53b295)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Davin on August 30, 2017, 02:50:13 PM
^
That is very upsetting. It took forever to get that fucker to face justice for violating the constitutional rights of thousands of American citizens...

Trump chumps have and will try to compare this to Obama pardons, but there is no close example for any pardon in the entirety of US history.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on September 24, 2017, 01:17:35 PM
Trump calls a footballer a "son-of-a-bitch" for not acknowledgjng the national anthem in protest against racism,

Quote
Kaepernick’s Mom Has Perfect Comeback for Trump: “Guess That Makes Me a Proud B---h”

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/09/23/kaepernick_s_mom_has_perfect_comeback_for_trump_guess_that_makes_me_a_proud.html

And he, in a snit, cancells the invite to the White House for a champion team,

Quote
President Donald Trump withdraws White House offer to Golden State Warriors

http://www.nba.com/article/2017/09/23/president-donald-trump-withdraws-white-house-offer-golden-state-warriors

Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Arturo on September 24, 2017, 02:40:08 PM
^

He also said they should be fired if they do not stand for the anthem.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Icarus on September 24, 2017, 08:07:51 PM
Those guys have every right to register their protest by sluffing off the national anthem.  On the other hand, they are in show business and are paid rather large sums of money to put on their show which does not include protest demonstrations.  If the box office begins to suffer, then the employer will almost surely have to take some measures.

Pro sports are business enterprises.   Will demonstrations of the kind that Koepernik and others are doing actually change anything in the societal realm in a positive way?  I can not blame these guys for doing what they are doing, but I fear that it is a counter productive exercise.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on September 25, 2017, 07:40:02 AM
Seems it is against the law for a president, or member of the legislature, to interfere with the employment of a citizen. Like calling for them to be sacked. Does the law distinguish between rhetorical and sincere speech I wonder.

It also seems that some of the team owners, who may have been on Trump's side in his campaign, have sided with their players on this.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Magdalena on September 25, 2017, 04:23:46 PM
Does anyone know exactly how many more days we have to put up with the USA's divider-in-chief?  :-\
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: No one on September 25, 2017, 04:39:26 PM
Hopefully raps, planet moron realizes soon that their king is missing, and they come take him home.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on September 25, 2017, 05:10:38 PM
Oops, Imgur does not seem to be working for me at the moment.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Recusant on September 25, 2017, 05:25:35 PM
Does anyone know exactly how many more days we have to put up with the USA's divider-in-chief?  :-\

There's an online countdown (https://www.tickcounter.com/countdown/1611151200000/america-new_york/yodhms/FFFFFF3B5998000000FF0000/Time_Until_Trump_Leaves_Office).  :D
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Magdalena on September 25, 2017, 06:41:24 PM
Does anyone know exactly how many more days we have to put up with the USA's divider-in-chief?  :-\

There's an online countdown (https://www.tickcounter.com/countdown/1611151200000/america-new_york/yodhms/FFFFFF3B5998000000FF0000/Time_Until_Trump_Leaves_Office).  :D
Time Until Trump Leaves Office
 3 
YEARS 
:
   
 3 
MONTHS 
:
   
 25 
DAYS 
:
   
 18 
HOURS 
:
   
 51 
MINUTES 
:
   
And a few seconds...

 :tellmemore:


~Thank you, Recusant.  :hug:
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Recusant on September 25, 2017, 06:51:40 PM
~Thank you, Recusant.  :hug:

 :hug: I'd say 'my pleasure' but it doesn't please me to realize just how long the world will be plagued by that blowhard asshat as head of state of the US.   :(
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Magdalena on September 25, 2017, 07:14:49 PM
~Thank you, Recusant.  :hug:

 :hug: I'd say 'my pleasure' but it doesn't please me to realize just how long the world will be plagued by that blowhard asshat as head of state of the US.   :(

I know what you mean, but seeing those numbers constantly change, give me hope...But most importantly, it lets me know that the reign of that blowhard asshat will come to an end.
 :frolic:

Do you know what people call him besides a blowhard asshat? 
What Word Comes to Mind When People Think About President Trump? Idiot, Incompetent, Leader
(http://time.com/4774598/words-associated-donald-trump-quinnipiac-poll/)
 ::)


.......OH! I almost forgot! When we move the clock back one hour every year, that's another hour that we don't have to deal with our Idiot, Incompetent, Leader.  :smilenod:
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Magdalena on September 26, 2017, 04:37:56 AM
Hopefully raps, planet moron realizes soon that their king is missing, and they come take him home.
:abduct:
 :cheersfortwo:
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on September 26, 2017, 09:24:05 AM
(https://imgur.com/wq5UGru.jpg)

Trump might now said to be the keader of the American "community".
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Magdalena on September 26, 2017, 05:37:48 PM
Did any of you watch this last night? It's hilarious!
(You don't have to watch the whole thing if you don't want to, but I recommend the first 13 minutes.)

The Late Show with Stephen Colbert
http://www.cbs.com/shows/the-late-show-with-stephen-colbert/video/svBr1GIC2Vy20FpbXTIhNT95caHoEae2/the-late-show-9-25-2017-sterling-k-brown-and-chance-the-rapper-/ (http://www.cbs.com/shows/the-late-show-with-stephen-colbert/video/svBr1GIC2Vy20FpbXTIhNT95caHoEae2/the-late-show-9-25-2017-sterling-k-brown-and-chance-the-rapper-/)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on September 26, 2017, 05:47:50 PM
^
Oh, well, another one not available here . . .
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Magdalena on September 26, 2017, 05:57:17 PM
^
Oh, well, another one not available here . . .

Don't worry, my friend, Maleficent Mags is here to save the day. ;D
Enjoy it.
Not a valid youtube URL
...Here's the rest of it:
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on September 26, 2017, 06:11:06 PM
Thanks, MagMag!
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: joeactor on September 26, 2017, 08:36:31 PM
Thanks, Mags!
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Magdalena on September 26, 2017, 11:28:19 PM
^^
Es un placer, amigos.  :boaterhat:
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Sandra Craft on September 27, 2017, 02:20:57 AM
Hilarious -- makes me almost not miss The Colbert Report.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Bad Penny II on September 27, 2017, 06:06:56 PM
they are in show business and are paid

But they're not bought.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Icarus on September 29, 2017, 02:33:40 AM
I , or someone else, might have posted this video before.  For me it is a grabber of too much fun to ignore, and it also has the cherubic Brit girl who is just a doll........ although she says fuck and other Olympian oaths sometimes.  She is still a doll. Once again:
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Sandra Craft on September 29, 2017, 04:00:42 AM
I , or someone else, might have posted this video before.  For me it is a grabber of too much fun to ignore, and it also has the cherubic Brit girl who is just a doll........ although she says fuck and other Olympian oaths sometimes.  She is still a doll. Once again:

Love that.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on September 30, 2017, 10:50:34 PM
Motor Mouth revs up agsin.

Quote
The mayor of Puerto Rico's largest city was rebuked by President Donald Trump on Saturday after pleading for more federal assistance in the wake of Hurricane Maria.

"We are dying, and you are killing us with the inefficiency and the bureaucracy," San Juan Mayor Carmen Yulín Cruz said Friday at a news conference. She highlighted donations from companies and others, including 200,000 pounds of food donated by Goya, as a contrast to federal help.

"This is what we got last night: four pallets of water, three pallets of meals and 12 pallets of infant food — which I gave them to the people of Comerio, where people are drinking off a creek," she said. "So I am done being polite. I am done being politically correct. I am mad as hell."

Quote
However, Trump hit back early Saturday, accusing Cruz of "poor leadership ability" and criticizing Puerto Rican officials.

"They want everything to be done for them when it should be a community effort," he tweeted. "10,000 federal workers now on island doing a good job."

https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/puerto-rico-crisis/san-juan-s-mayor-pleads-trump-you-are-killing-us-n806116[/quote]

Maybe the lady is a bit emotional but I think they have more problems, bring an island, than Texas or Florida - at least those two have road and rail links to carry food and materials in and mire chance of getting full power back.






Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Icarus on October 01, 2017, 04:41:36 AM
 Mayor Cruz is to be allowed some emotionally charged angst.  As a matter of fact she is not even a native Puerto Rican.

The Trumpster pissed in his own mess kit, as usual, when he implied that Puerto Ricans are freeloaders. Even if that is true, I am certainly not agreeing that it is, the timing for making such an accusation was stupid.  Right now those people need help not damnation.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on October 01, 2017, 04:52:16 AM
Puerto Ricoh may not be a state but it seems it pays just about all taxes orher than income rax.
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Though the Commonwealth government has its own tax laws, Puerto Ricans are also required to pay most US federal taxes,[1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8] with the major exception being that most residents do not have to pay the federal personal income tax.[9] In 2009, Puerto Rico paid $3.742 billion into the US Treasury.[10] Residents of Puerto Rico pay into Social Security, and are thus eligible for Social Security benefits upon retirement. However, they are excluded from the Supplemental Security Income.

The federal taxes paid by Puerto Rico residents include import/export taxes,[11] Federal commodity taxes,[12] social security taxes,[13] among others. Residents also pay federal payroll taxes, such as Social Security[14] and Medicare taxes.[15]
Wiki

Not sure how that works per capita compared with the mainland but they are American citizens
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Papasito Bruno on October 07, 2017, 10:49:51 PM
Lookie everyone, Donald received an award today!

(https://i.imgur.com/SzTwlp5.jpg)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Tank on October 08, 2017, 08:38:28 AM
^^^  :rofl:
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: xSilverPhinx on October 08, 2017, 03:08:21 PM
Lookie everyone, Donald received an award today!

(https://i.imgur.com/SzTwlp5.jpg)

Don't they screen presidential candidates for dementia?
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: No one on October 08, 2017, 04:36:21 PM
Being demented is a prerequisite for being a politician. Along with being a worthless, good for nothing, lying weasel.



But surley I jest, not all politicians are bad..........some are dead.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: xSilverPhinx on October 08, 2017, 04:49:59 PM
I think being morally demented is a prerequisite, but Trump seems to be suffering from neurological dementia in addition to that. What the hell is is jabbering on about? 
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: No one on October 08, 2017, 05:18:27 PM
I think his 2 brain cells are arguing, thus resulting in, spontaneous reversed orifice seepage.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: xSilverPhinx on October 08, 2017, 05:21:00 PM
:lol:
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: joeactor on October 11, 2017, 11:39:28 PM
(https://www.caglecartoons.com/media/cartoons/139/2017/10/10/201356_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Magdalena on October 27, 2017, 07:56:09 AM
Controversy: Television ad seeks Trump's impeachment
http://www.cbs8.com/story/36685630/commercial-controversy-television-ad-seeks-trumps-impeachment (http://www.cbs8.com/story/36685630/commercial-controversy-television-ad-seeks-trumps-impeachment)
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SAN DIEGO (NEWS ) — A California billionaire is bankrolling an ad campaign, calling on Congress to impeach President Trump. 

Tom Steyer is spending millions to fund the television ads.

"He's brought us to the brink of nuclear war, obstructed justice in the FBI," Steyer says in the ad. "I'm Tom Steyer, and like you, I'm a citizen and it's up to us to do something."

It's a $10-million attack to push President Trump out of office.

Steyer is singlehandedly paying for the commercials that started airing - not just in San Diego last weekend - but across the country.   

He's asking viewers to sign a petition that's being sent to elected officials in Washington urging them to immediately remove President Trump from office.

"The fact of the matter is he is putting us at risk on a daily basis - and you can go to legal scholars - he has clearly met the standard for impeachment," Steyer said. 

Steyer's commercials are being seen, but viewers who spoke with News 8 have more questions than answers.

"What's his agenda behind it?" said one viewer. "Who does he feel will be a better president and why?"

David Harlow who voted for Trump admits he's disappointed so far - believing the president should spend less time tweeting and more time solving important problems.
...

 8)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Papasito Bruno on October 27, 2017, 06:29:52 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/VqxLnvj.jpg)



This is a public service announcement brought to you by your friends from the "Church of the Sexy Jesus".
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Magdalena on October 29, 2017, 05:30:34 AM
(https://i.giphy.com/media/tfitisBfmfm9O/giphy.webp)


Spoiler: ShowHide
First on CNN: First charges filed in Mueller investigation
By Pamela Brown, Evan Perez and Shimon Prokupecz, CNN
Updated 11:11 AM ET, Sat October 28, 2017.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/27/politics/first-charges-mueller-investigation/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/27/politics/first-charges-mueller-investigation/index.html)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on October 29, 2017, 06:43:47 AM
^
Yeah, heard that on the BBC three days ago, just waiting for the results or to find out how they justify getting round any embarrasment. Will it be minions of no political importance or bigger (slithery and slimy) fish?
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Magdalena on October 29, 2017, 07:10:23 PM
^
Yeah, heard that on the BBC three days ago, just waiting for the results or to find out how they justify getting round any embarrasment. Will it be minions of no political importance or bigger (slithery and slimy) fish?
We will find out tomorrow.

But...if you know who, fired you know who, for investigating you know who, for doing you know what...then you know who, should also be included in the list of slithery and slimy fish.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on October 29, 2017, 08:00:24 PM
^
Yeah, heard that on the BBC three days ago, just waiting for the results or to find out how they justify getting round any embarrasment. Will it be minions of no political importance or bigger (slithery and slimy) fish?
We will find out tomorrow.

But...if you know who, fired you know who, for investigating you know who, for doing you know what...then you know who, should also be included in the list of slithery and slimy fish.

Yeah, El Trumpo is really banging his gums on Twitter about Clinton et al in what looks blantantly like a feeble attempt at a diversion tactic.  Well, we will see if the wash is white tomorrow or if there is still a micoscopic amount of integrity left in the American governmental  system.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Icarus on October 29, 2017, 09:02:34 PM
^ Call me naive, but I still believe that there are a few,very few, political types who are straight shooters.  The ones with integrity and brains for whom I am best acquainted are now retired from the political scene.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on October 29, 2017, 09:42:54 PM
^ Call me naive, but I still believe that there are a few,very few, political types who are straight shooters.  The ones with integrity and brains for whom I am best acquainted are now retired from the political scene.
I am sure there are, Icarus, a few who can see beyond the ideologiy, to the real needs of the people and the nation. But I will bet they don't get to any position of effective power because they do not conform to the patterns of those who have already slithered up the pole. I believe a politician's words only when they are turned into concrete facts.

Sorry, but my observations of both company and local/national government over my life have made ne 98% skeptical and cynical of all things political. As Recusant remarked about the anti-Trump comments made by one Republican senator, basicslly, "What is his agenda . . .?"

Trump has deepened the swamp and many more politicians, good and bad, are sliding down the slope up to their necks. I am hoping that Mueller has kept to objective rather than  politically prejudiced investigation techniques. Have not read a bio of the man so I do not know his history.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Icarus on October 29, 2017, 11:25:47 PM
^ Agreed Dave.  The unfortunate mantra in the political theater is that:"To get along, you must go along"   Damned few who arrive at the nations capitol, or even at the state capitols, are willing to violate that unwritten rule.

Times have surely changed. I'm thinking about the old time legitimate quarrels among the political types that violated the get along concept..  There Was Alexander Hamilton and his infamous and fatal duel with Aaron Burr.  Hamilton had made some unkind statements about Burr and refused to take them back. That became a dueling offense.  Alexander was actually reputed to be a shithead but he was an important figure in our history.

Hamilton is my guy because he was the equivalent  of secretary of the treasury and wanted to assure that tariffs were collected according to the import and taxation rules.  He caused to be put into service, The Revenue Cutter Service, which were armed ships that acted as policemen to observe and enforce the law for incoming ships delivering goods to the American shores.  The Revenue Cutter Service eventually  became the U.S. Coast Guard. I am a veteran of that branch of service and somewhat Gung Ho about that branch of the military. Semper Paratus

Meanwhile we have crooked, greedy, opportunistic, dishonest, and all too frequently stupid, politicians who are running the works. .........................Hey I did that mini rant with even mentioning our tweeter in chief.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: joeactor on October 30, 2017, 05:58:18 PM
"Man of Collusion" - new parody from Joe's Dump:
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on October 30, 2017, 06:19:35 PM
"Man of Collusion" - new parody from Joe's Dump:

Good one, Joe!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: joeactor on October 30, 2017, 07:35:33 PM
"Man of Collusion" - new parody from Joe's Dump:

Good one, Joe!  :thumbsup:

Thank you, sir!
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on November 06, 2017, 01:27:38 PM
El Trumpo is still suffering from foot in mouth disease. He  told the Japanese they should build more of their cars in America. Erm, seems they already build 3/4 of the cars they sell in America with American labour . . .

How (not) to impress a statesman and his countrymen.

(Notice I left out "another".)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: xSilverPhinx on November 06, 2017, 01:32:37 PM
Mr Dump isn't exactly the most well-informed or smartest politician around.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: xSilverPhinx on November 06, 2017, 11:25:36 PM
Breaking News! (http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-tyne-41887891)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Magdalena on November 06, 2017, 11:40:16 PM
Breaking News! (http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-tyne-41887891)
(https://media.giphy.com/media/12MFMJ8elL3A76/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on November 08, 2017, 04:33:35 PM
Just leave out the "bull" bit in China . . .

(https://imgur.com/00jPgyr.jpg)

I think this one is a fake, unfortunately

(https://imgur.com/dxrBwKb.jpg)

(https://imgur.com/GWLCXvF.jpg)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: joeactor on November 08, 2017, 07:51:44 PM
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on November 15, 2017, 03:21:25 PM
Making a pig's dog's ear of Trump.

(https://imgur.com/lVOx9Zl.jpg)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Icarus on November 27, 2017, 11:11:11 PM
If you would like a few laughs or at some least pained smiles, you can OD  on  425 Trump cartoons at this site.....https://www.usnews.com/cartoons/donald-trump-cartoons?int=news-rec&slide=10

Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Sandra Craft on November 28, 2017, 01:38:16 AM
Trump's latest idiocy, taking a dig at a political opponent by insulting people he was supposed to be honoring: yet another "Pocohontas"
 incident (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-pocahontas-elizabeth-warren-navajo-code-talkers-white-house/)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Recusant on November 28, 2017, 03:27:31 AM
Doing so while standing in front of a portrait he put in the Oval Office of Andrew Jackson, who was perhaps the most anti-Indian president the United States has ever had.

(https://cbsnews1.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2017/11/27/0b941e9f-051d-4675-8d9f-344979374db3/resize/620x/630e5f0bce9807e901bbb512b497eb07/image1-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Sandra Craft on November 28, 2017, 03:29:59 AM
^^^ I'm not sure if 45 honestly doesn't know about any of this, or just doesn't care.  If he has advisers who are supposed to tell him about it, they aren't doing their job.  Of course, if the point is to send out white nationalist signals, then they are doing their job.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on November 29, 2017, 06:19:59 PM
Trump retweets vudeos from British far right group, posdibly complicit in the murder of an MP and whose leader is on bail over prejudice issues. The bit in brackets is a sidebar.

Quote
The first video, originally shared by deputy leader Jayda Fransen's account, claimed to show "Muslim migrants beating up a Dutch boy on crutches".

A second re-post was captioned "Muslim destroys statue of Virgin Mary", while a third read "Islamist mob pushes teenage boy off roof and beats him to death".

(READ MORE
Donald Trump 'continuing to peddle conspiracy theories'
Deputy leader of far-right group Britain First arrested Britain First leaders charged with religious harassment. The content of the videos or their origin could not be independently verified, but local reports said the first showed the 2013 murder of a teenager who was himself likely to be a Muslim during riots over the coup against Mohamed Morsi.)

The attacker in the video from the Netherlands was neither a Muslim nor a migrant, according to local media, and was arrested over the incident.

Shortly after sharing the footage, the President called on Americans to "boycott Fake News CNN" and hailed "another great day for the stock market".

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-britain-first-retweet-muslim-migrants-jayda-fransen-deputy-leader-a8082001.html

So, veracity of the videos is in question, yet Trump's spokesman said that this did not matter, the threat was there. So this vould be "fake news" - but that's OK, because it carries the Trump message.

Please, America, find some way to dump this bozo before he causes irrevocable damage to your, already shakey, national reputation.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Recusant on November 29, 2017, 07:48:45 PM
The damage to reputation is done. Now the question is how much damage his pathology will do to the world (there is no question that he and his fellow Republicans are damaging the US internally).
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Recusant on November 30, 2017, 05:27:21 AM
"‘Fake news CNN’ urged to just dig up the dirt that sends this f**ker to jail" | the daily mash (http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/international/fake-news-cnn-urged-to-just-dig-up-the-dirt-that-sends-this-fker-to-jail-20171129140028)

Quote
(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thedailymash.co.uk%2Fimages%2Fstories%2Ftrump-neck-425x280.jpg&hash=31bc509330a5965c9fa9c71759232e9194250f2b)




American media, dubbed ‘fake news’ by Donald Trump, have been urged to finally unearth the story that will leave him rotting in a prison cell.

As Trump retweeted fake, anti-Muslim videos from British fascists and then urged a boycott of ‘fake news CNN’, leading figures around the world pleaded with journalists to ‘just nail this fucker once and for all and let us get on with our lives’.

Pope Francis said: “Jesus wept. It’s every fucking day with this dickbag. Surely to God there must be something in the Russia thing? What about all his property deals? Come on.

“At the very least there must be a tape recording of him somewhere saying something unbelievably racist? Dig that up an I’ll stand at my little balcony at the Vatican and endorse the shit out of it.”

The Pontiff added: “I just want a US president who doesn’t make me want to puke, do you know what I mean?”

A spokesman for the Nobel Institute said: “We absolutely guarantee a Nobel Prize for the journalist who finally does the business and rids us all of this gigantic anal wart.”
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Magdalena on November 30, 2017, 06:45:22 AM
...
A spokesman for the Nobel Institute said: “We absolutely guarantee a Nobel Prize for the journalist who finally does the business and rids us all of this gigantic anal wart.”
:lol:
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on November 30, 2017, 08:47:32 AM
...
A spokesman for the Nobel Institute said: “We absolutely guarantee a Nobel Prize for the journalist who finally does the business and rids us all of this gigantic anal wart.”
:lol:
Have more respect for anal warts, they are not good news but, in comparison, they are more honest than Trump. The do what is expected of them.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on November 30, 2017, 01:53:14 PM
Just listening to comments on the radio about the spat between Trump and May.

Trump's defence is that the rise in crime over this side of the pond is due to our immigration policies and that America has no such ptoblems, due to his policies (which he has yet to get implimented . . .). America does not need a rise in violent immigrant crime, the current citizens are perfectly capable of growing that without external help.

America First! Don't get yourself killed by some immigrant, make sure it is by a True Blue American, using an American assault rifle and ammo made in the US of A.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Recusant on November 30, 2017, 04:19:00 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/MY8mW7N.png)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on December 01, 2017, 07:31:26 PM
Seems Trump is, frighteningly, unable to check that his tweets are not going to the wrong person, in this case Theresa May Scrivener rather than Theresa May:

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“I wasn’t really sure what to make of it,” she told the Press Association. “I was in bed by half 10 last night and oblivious to it all. It has been very surreal. I haven’t been able to leave my house. I’ve been bombarded and been contacted by press from around the world.”

Scrivener said she had received thousands of messages about Trump’s tweet. “It’s amazing to think that the world’s most powerful man managed to press the wrong button. I’m just waiting for a call from the White House with an apology.”

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/nov/30/theresamay-trump-twitter-tirade
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Sandra Craft on December 01, 2017, 07:57:33 PM
Quote
“I wasn’t really sure what to make of it,” she told the Press Association. “I was in bed by half 10 last night and oblivious to it all. It has been very surreal. I haven’t been able to leave my house. I’ve been bombarded and been contacted by press from around the world.”

Scrivener said she had received thousands of messages about Trump’s tweet. “It’s amazing to think that the world’s most powerful man managed to press the wrong button. I’m just waiting for a call from the White House with an apology.”

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/nov/30/theresamay-trump-twitter-tirade

Isn't it, tho?  Considering the buttons he has available to push.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Davin on December 01, 2017, 07:58:12 PM
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/362773-flynn-to-testify-trump-directed-him-to-make-contact-with-the

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Former national security adviser Michael Flynn is expected to testify that President Trump instructed him to contact Russian officials during the 2016 campaign, according to a report by ABC News.

Flynn is saying that Trump "directed him to make contact with the Russians," ABC's Brian Ross said Friday, just moments after Flynn entered a guilty plea for lying about his contact with Russians during the presidential transition period.

Hopefully they have a lot of evidence to take Turnip down.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Magdalena on December 02, 2017, 12:27:17 AM
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/362773-flynn-to-testify-trump-directed-him-to-make-contact-with-the

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Former national security adviser Michael Flynn is expected to testify that President Trump instructed him to contact Russian officials during the 2016 campaign, according to a report by ABC News.

Flynn is saying that Trump "directed him to make contact with the Russians," ABC's Brian Ross said Friday, just moments after Flynn entered a guilty plea for lying about his contact with Russians during the presidential transition period.

Hopefully they have a lot of evidence to take Turnip down.

FAKE NEWS!!!!  :eyeroll:
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on December 02, 2017, 08:06:29 AM
Books wrote, re wrong buttons being pressed:
Quote
Isn't it, tho?  Considering the buttons he has available to push.

I was slightly relived to hear the general in overall military charge of the US nuclear delivery system ssy that he had a legal requirement to disobey any illegal orders regarding a nuclear strike, even from the president. In a reply he made that point quite explicitly.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Magdalena on December 04, 2017, 06:54:21 PM
Trump calls Roy Moore to offer his endorsement

By Maegan Vazquez, CNN
Updated 1:29 PM ET, Mon December 4, 2017

Quote
..."Democrats refusal to give even one vote for massive Tax Cuts is why we need Republican Roy Moore to win in Alabama," Trump tweeted. "We need his vote on stopping crime, illegal immigration, Border Wall, Military, Pro Life, V.A., Judges 2nd Amendment and more. No to Jones, a Pelosi/Schumer Puppet!"...

http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/04/politics/trump-moore-endorsement-twitter/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/04/politics/trump-moore-endorsement-twitter/index.html)

What is wrong with this man!?
(https://i.imgur.com/3Db1d6f.gif)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Sandra Craft on December 04, 2017, 07:19:33 PM
Books wrote, re wrong buttons being pressed:
Quote
Isn't it, tho?  Considering the buttons he has available to push.

I was slightly relived to hear the general in overall military charge of the US nuclear delivery system ssy that he had a legal requirement to disobey any illegal orders regarding a nuclear strike, even from the president. In a reply he made that point quite explicitly.

That common sense can still be found among some of the military is one of the bright spots in this Administration for me.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on December 14, 2017, 06:10:07 PM
In the anouncement of Disney buying a whole bunch of Murdock's stuff, including 21st C Fox, it was also reported that President Snowflake Ego called Murdoch to make sure his favourite, sycophantic, channel, Fucks News, was not in the deal.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Icarus on December 15, 2017, 12:58:50 AM
^  :grin:
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on December 21, 2017, 05:18:30 PM
Trump is generating controversy faster than the media can publish it at the moment!

Quote
Donald Trump accidentally admits Republican tax bill was deceptively sold as boost to middle classes
President revels in 'victory' over Obamacare and inadvertently blurts out admission that his party misrepresented contents of bill

President Donald Trump was so excited about passing his first major piece of legislation on Wednesday that he blurted out that the Republican Party had misrepresented the entire bill, handing Democrats some talking points for the 2018 midterm elections.

Speaking at the White House just before the House prepared to sign off on the tax-cuts bill one last time, Trump revelled extensively in his win before turning things over to Vice President Mike Pence to heap praise upon him continuously for a few minutes.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-republican-tax-bill-deceptively-sold-cuts-middle-classes-obamacare-a8121751.html

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UN to vote on Jerusalem amid accusations of bullying by Trump
Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu denounces United Nation as ‘house

Donald Trump’s threat to cut US funding to countries that oppose his decision to recognise Jerusalem as Israel’s capital in a UN vote on Thursday has set the scene for confrontation with countries already bridling over the president’s approach.

Acusations of bullying and blackmail, the US and Israel have continued their furious efforts to persuade countries to back Trump’s position, amid predictions that more than 150 of the 193 countries in the general assembly could vote against the US.

Trump made his threat to cut US funding on Wednesday as he gave his wholehearted support to his UN ambassador, Nikki Haley, who had sent members a letter warning that the US would be “taking names” of those who opposed it.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/dec/21/un-vote-on-jerusalem-accusations-of-bullying-trump

Oh, and a bunch of paleontologists are going to sue Trump over his decision to "unprotect" one of America's mosr inportant fossil areas. They claim that he has no personal power to do so:

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Why are palaeontologists suing Trump?
Proposed radical cuts to US National Monuments threaten America

Research published earlier this year suggested that the only area of science that liberals and conservatives could bond over, was dinosaurs. Everyone loves Brontosaurus, right? Whatever else may be going wrong in the world, surely palaeontology is safe from the ravages of politics?

At the start of December Trump announced plans for the biggest loss of protected public lands in the history of the US. By gutting two of America’s National Monuments – Grand Staircase-Escalante and Bears Ears - he will remove government protection for over two million acres of land. These areas were designated because they contain thousands of archaeological sites, landscapes sacred to Native American tribes, virtually pristine wilderness, and unique geology.


https://www.theguardian.com/science/2017/dec/13/why-are-palaeontologists-suing-trump
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Magdalena on December 21, 2017, 06:49:04 PM
^^^
Thank you for keeping us informed, Dave.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Magdalena on December 30, 2017, 08:08:20 AM
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Trump tweets that 'cold' East Coast 'could use a little bit of' global warming.

West Palm Beach (CNN)President Donald Trump, on vacation in balmy Florida, suggested that climate change could be a good thing on Thursday, tweeting that cities gripped by freezing temperatures on the East Coast could use some warming...
http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/28/politics/trump-global-warming-tweet/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/28/politics/trump-global-warming-tweet/index.html)

  :picard facepalm:
My neck will be diagnosed with Trumpitis. A painful condition caused by shaking the head from side to side excessively every time Trump says something.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Tom62 on December 30, 2017, 01:03:49 PM
Quote
Trump tweets that 'cold' East Coast 'could use a little bit of' global warming.

West Palm Beach (CNN)President Donald Trump, on vacation in balmy Florida, suggested that climate change could be a good thing on Thursday, tweeting that cities gripped by freezing temperatures on the East Coast could use some warming...
http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/28/politics/trump-global-warming-tweet/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/28/politics/trump-global-warming-tweet/index.html)

  :picard facepalm:
My neck will be diagnosed with Trumpitis. A painful condition caused by shaking the head from side to side excessively every time Trump says something.

I no longer give a shit what Trump says and does.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Icarus on December 30, 2017, 11:21:01 PM
I respect your position Tom. I wish that I was at liberty to be oblivious of the machinations and pronouncement of our shithead in chief.  He is dangerously close to having the ability to cause WW3. He is the head cheerleader for the party that will damage our nation fiscally.  Please tell me he is not going to let a lot of good and legitimately needy sick people die while he tries to divert funds to build his fucking wall that the Mexicans will damned sure not pay for.

I'd like to ignore all this, but I can not.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Magdalena on December 31, 2017, 02:42:55 AM
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Trump tweets that 'cold' East Coast 'could use a little bit of' global warming.

West Palm Beach (CNN)President Donald Trump, on vacation in balmy Florida, suggested that climate change could be a good thing on Thursday, tweeting that cities gripped by freezing temperatures on the East Coast could use some warming...
http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/28/politics/trump-global-warming-tweet/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/28/politics/trump-global-warming-tweet/index.html)

  :picard facepalm:
My neck will be diagnosed with Trumpitis. A painful condition caused by shaking the head from side to side excessively every time Trump says something.

I no longer give a shit what Trump says and does.

When I want to talk about Trump to people around me, most do this:  :la la la la:.

I too want to ignore him, but that's what he wants and I'm not gonna give him what he wants.
(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.azquotes.com%2Fpicture-quotes%2Fquote-the-cost-of-freedom-is-eternal-vigilance-thomas-jefferson-124-95-06.jpg&hash=34726781580f89441f1e321733999f98dd9f2fb2)
 :)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on December 31, 2017, 07:29:23 AM
I too would just love to be able to think of Trump as a harmeless buffoon. He is certainly one of those, but not harmless on a global scale.

There have been the noises off from some retired generals (which usually means serving ones feel the same way) one does wonder about the possibility of a military voup.

Trump is bananas, perhaps the US republic will follow suit.

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It's not organized military opposition to President Donald Trump. But day by day, generals and admirals are publicly stepping up and directly giving the American public their views in ways that don't always match the Twitter rhetoric of their commander in chief. (http://edition.cnn.com/2017/10/04/politics/trump-generals-mattis/index.html)

Whatever, there will be a global effect.

Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on January 05, 2018, 06:44:47 PM
Joke on BBC's News Quiz (paraphrased):

"Trump need not be worried about losing his base because of the newly published book - simply because it's a book. Now, if they publish it in the form of bumper stickers . . ."
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: joeactor on January 05, 2018, 08:17:14 PM
Joke on BBC's News Quiz (paraphrased):

"Trump need not be worried about losing his base because of the newly published book - simply because it's a book. Now, if they publish it in the form of bumper stickers . . ."

Yes... the book is news to those who already suspected everything in the book. I doubt it'll get much coverage on Faux Snooze
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on January 05, 2018, 08:38:41 PM
Joke on BBC's News Quiz (paraphrased):

"Trump need not be worried about losing his base because of the newly published book - simply because it's a book. Now, if they publish it in the form of bumper stickers . . ."

Yes... the book is news to those who already suspected everything in the book. I doubt it'll get much coverage on Faux Snooze

The joke was implying that reading books is a bit too intellectual for Trump supporters.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: No one on January 05, 2018, 11:13:59 PM
Trump is the saddest joke ever known to the human experience.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Tank on January 06, 2018, 07:29:19 AM
Trump is the saddest joke ever known to the human experience.
He would be if this was an episode of the Simpsons.
But it's not is it?
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on January 06, 2018, 08:04:25 AM
Trump is the saddest joke ever known to the human experience.
He would be if this was an episode of the Simpsons.
But it's not is it?

Trump makes the Simpsons look sensible IMHO.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Pasta Chick on January 06, 2018, 04:11:48 PM
Trump is the saddest joke ever known to the human experience.
He would be if this was an episode of the Simpsons.
But it's not is it?

Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on January 12, 2018, 11:37:50 AM
El Trumpo is in a snit.  Sorry, another snit.

This time it is because, he says, Obama sold the London embassy building too cheap and spent too much on the new one - so he will not be coming to London to for the opening ceremony.

Sadiq Khan, the Mayor of London, suggested that he knows that he will be greeted with demonstrations from the people, something he does not want to face (both probably correct) so Obama is his scapegoat - again!

A Trump Shite House spokesman said that this was a slight on the "leader of the free world" and of the partner in our "Special Relationship". Only a dedicated Trumpite politician could put that slant on it, appealing to a "title" that is being eroded daily and trying to hit the soft spot, whilst ignoring all the other global comments about the Slug in Charge with his ever increasing isolationist tendencies.

On this and "shithouse countries" other comments included, "That's just vintage Trump, I have seen it for nearly 40 years," "Unfortunately there are Americans who just love this stuff, he's playing to his crowd."


[Typos and grammar edited]
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: xSilverPhinx on January 12, 2018, 01:43:33 PM
This time it is because, he says, Obama sold the London embassy building too cheap and spent too much on the new one - so he will not be coming to London to for the opening ceremony.

:rofl:

OMG that is the worst excuse ever! Even for a dimwit like Trump!
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Tank on January 12, 2018, 01:48:51 PM
This time it is because, he says, Obama sold the London embassy building too cheap and spent too much on the new one - so he will not be coming to London to for the opening ceremony.

:rofl:

OMG that is the worst excuse ever! Even for a dimwit like Trump!

It has come to light that it wasn't Obama but Bush who signed all the paperwork associated with the move of the embassy.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on January 12, 2018, 05:36:59 PM
This time it is because, he says, Obama sold the London embassy building too cheap and spent too much on the new one - so he will not be coming to London to for the opening ceremony.

:rofl:

OMG that is the worst excuse ever! Even for a dimwit like Trump!

It has come to light that it wasn't Obama but Bush who signed all the paperwork associated with the move of the embassy.

Well found, Tank!

Another layer of lying/afactology (the lack of knowledge of the true, not alternative, facts) to place between Trump and the real world.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Icarus on January 13, 2018, 02:13:04 AM
The Donald was to have his annual physical checkup today.  These checkups are far more thorough than the ones given to ordinary citizens.  In that case, one has to wonder if the checkup was sufficiently analytical.  Surely the physicians and analysts discovered  that  the man has shit for brains?   
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Tank on January 13, 2018, 09:43:26 AM
Lawyer paid $130K to adult-film star to keep quiet about alleged Trump sexual encounter: report (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/01/12/lawyer-paid-130-k-adult-film-star-keep-quiet-alleged-trump-sexual-encounter-report/1029804001/)

He had the affair in 2006. Stormy was born 17th March 1979 so she was 16 or 17 at the time. Statutory rape anybody?
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on January 13, 2018, 10:01:57 AM
Lawyer paid $130K to adult-film star to keep quiet about alleged Trump sexual encounter: report (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/01/12/lawyer-paid-130-k-adult-film-star-keep-quiet-alleged-trump-sexual-encounter-report/1029804001/)

He had the affair in 2006. Stormy was born 17th March 1979 so she was 16 or 17 at the time. Statutory rape anybody?

If the incident was in Calioirnia, yes. If it was in next door Nevada, no. Looking at a map it does seem all the Lake Tahoe golf courses are on the California side of the state border.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Tom62 on January 13, 2018, 03:17:27 PM
The Donald was to have his annual physical checkup today.  These checkups are far more thorough than the ones given to ordinary citizens.  In that case, one has to wonder if the checkup was sufficiently analytical.  Surely the physicians and analysts discovered  that  the man has shit for brains?

That could well be, but being intelligent is not a presidential qualification. I'm pretty sure that JW Bush has even less braincells than Trump.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Davin on January 15, 2018, 03:22:20 PM
The Donald was to have his annual physical checkup today.  These checkups are far more thorough than the ones given to ordinary citizens.  In that case, one has to wonder if the checkup was sufficiently analytical.  Surely the physicians and analysts discovered  that  the man has shit for brains?

That could well be, but being intelligent is not a presidential qualification. I'm pretty sure that JW Bush has even less braincells than Trump.
There is no way. Looking at the worst quotes by each, Trump said way dumber shit. Trump can't even keep his train of thought through one sentence.

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We have a firm commitment to NATO, we are a part of NATO. We have a firm commitment to Europe. We are a part of Europe

Quote
Look, having nuclear — my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart — you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I’m one of the smartest people anywhere in the world — it’s true! — but when you’re a conservative Republican they try — oh, do they do a number — that’s why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune — you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we’re a little disadvantaged — but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me — it would have been so easy, and it’s not as important as these lives are — nuclear is powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what’s going to happen and he was right, who would have thought? — but when you look at what’s going on with the four prisoners — now it used to be three, now it’s four — but when it was three and even now, I would have said it’s all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don’t, they haven’t figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it’s gonna take them about another 150 years — but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us.

If you haven't yet, then it's time to face it. Trump is the worst President that the United States has had for a long time. Probably the worst of all time. I haven't studied every single president, so I can't be sure. He's been violating the U.S. Constitution since he took office, and we'll have to see if this Russian investigation ends up. Being a dumbass is pretty bad, but working with a hostile foreign government to interfere with U.S. elections is worse.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Tom62 on January 15, 2018, 06:32:03 PM
The Donald was to have his annual physical checkup today.  These checkups are far more thorough than the ones given to ordinary citizens.  In that case, one has to wonder if the checkup was sufficiently analytical.  Surely the physicians and analysts discovered  that  the man has shit for brains?

That could well be, but being intelligent is not a presidential qualification. I'm pretty sure that JW Bush has even less braincells than Trump.
There is no way. Looking at the worst quotes by each, Trump said way dumber shit. Trump can't even keep his train of thought through one sentence.

Really? Here are some classic GW Bush quotes:

"Do you have blacks, too?" –to Brazilian President Fernando Cardoso, Washington, D.C., November 8, 2001

"You work three jobs? … Uniquely American, isn't it? I mean, that is fantastic that you're doing that." –to a divorced mother of three, Omaha, Nebraska, February 4, 2005

"Goodbye from the world's biggest polluter." –in parting words to world leaders at his final G-8 Summit, punching the air and grinning widely as those present looked on in shock, Rusutsu, Japan, July 10, 2008

"Oh, no, we're not going to have any casualties." –discussing the Iraq war with Christian Coalition founder Pat Robertson in 2003, as quoted by Robertson

"I promise you I will listen to what has been said here, even though I wasn't here." –at the President's Economic Forum in Waco, Texas, August 13, 2002

 "I couldn't imagine somebody like Osama bin Laden understanding the joy of Hanukkah." –at a White House menorah lighting ceremony, Washington, D.C., December 10, 2001

"We spent a lot of time talking about Africa, as we should. Africa is a nation that suffers from incredible disease." –Gothenburg, Sweden, June 14, 2001

"For every fatal shooting, there were roughly three non-fatal shootings. And, folks, this is unacceptable in America. It's just unacceptable. And we're going to do something about it." –Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, May 14, 2001
   
"I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully." –Saginaw, Michigan, September 29, 2000

"This is an impressive crowd—the haves and the have mores. Some people call you the elite—I call you my base." –at the 2000 Al Smith dinner

"You know, one of the hardest parts of my job is to connect Iraq to the war on terror." –interview with CBS News' Katie Couric, September 6, 2006

"I'll be long gone before some smart person ever figures out what happened inside this Oval Office." –Washington, D.C., May 12, 2008
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Davin on January 15, 2018, 06:41:35 PM
The Donald was to have his annual physical checkup today.  These checkups are far more thorough than the ones given to ordinary citizens.  In that case, one has to wonder if the checkup was sufficiently analytical.  Surely the physicians and analysts discovered  that  the man has shit for brains?

That could well be, but being intelligent is not a presidential qualification. I'm pretty sure that JW Bush has even less braincells than Trump.
There is no way. Looking at the worst quotes by each, Trump said way dumber shit. Trump can't even keep his train of thought through one sentence.

Really? Here are some classic GW Bush quotes:
Yeah, he wasn't that smart. But even his worst quotes were complete sentences. :lol:

That's miles beyond Trump's abilities.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Magdalena on January 15, 2018, 07:33:31 PM
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTNrduecJq_696WOoE-su0uzNUIWwIxRtfu6fjj0aWK-Cf5nw)

 :picard facepalm:
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: xSilverPhinx on January 16, 2018, 01:19:54 PM
:lol:
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Magdalena on January 17, 2018, 05:04:39 AM
This is funny.  ;D
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on January 18, 2018, 02:25:20 PM
Donald Trump contradicts aide John Kelly on Mexico border wall (http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jan/18/donald-trump-pushes-back-against-aide-on-mexico-border-wall)

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Donald Trump has contradicted his chief of staff over proposals for a wall along the southern US border with Mexico, tweeting that his opinion on a wall “has never changed or evolved from the first day I conceived of it”.

Here we go again, more sackings or resignstions? Or just the same old Trump Shite House contradictory confusion?
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Ecurb Noselrub on January 18, 2018, 04:06:21 PM
It is literally impossible to every understand what the hell is going on with this administration.  What a way to run a country!
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Magdalena on January 18, 2018, 04:18:54 PM
Donald Trump contradicts aide John Kelly on Mexico border wall (http://-https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jan/18/donald-trump-pushes-back-against-aide-on-mexico-border-wall)

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Donald Trump has contradicted his chief of staff over proposals for a wall along the southern US border with Mexico, tweeting that his opinion on a wall “has never changed or evolved from the first day I conceived of it”.

Here we go again, more sackings or resignstions? Or just the same old Trump Shite House contradictory confusion?
When I click on the link it says:
This site can’t be reached.  :-\
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on January 18, 2018, 04:41:49 PM
Donald Trump contradicts aide John Kelly on Mexico border wall (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jan/18/donald-trump-pushes-back-against-aide-on-mexico-border-wall)

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Donald Trump has contradicted his chief of staff over proposals for a wall along the southern US border with Mexico, tweeting that his opinion on a wall “has never changed or evolved from the first day I conceived of it”.

Here we go again, more sackings or resignstions? Or just the same old Trump Shite House contradictory confusion?
When I click on the link it says:
This site can’t be reached.  :-\

 :fixed:

Sneaky extra http snuck in there!
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Magdalena on January 18, 2018, 10:12:18 PM
:fixed:

Sneaky extra http snuck in there!
Thank you.
 :toff:
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Icarus on January 18, 2018, 11:47:07 PM
I inferred, in my post 900 above, that the Donald has shit for brains.   I stand by my considered contention. 

The $18 billion, plus the inevitable cost over run, would be far better spent on reinforcing the border patrol people.  What is more the courts should support those people who actually do risk their lives trying to do what they are hired to do.

 Does anyone remember the episode, some years back, when two border patrol officers apprehended a guy trying to cross the border? The dude resisted and they shot him but did not kill him.  A court case ensued.  The courts decided in favor of the illegal man. The officers both received hefty prison sentences.  No amount of protests or the use of common sense got the officers out of the serious jam that they were in.   

Does Trump know anything about instances such as that one?  Well no damned wonder that the border is leaky.  The officers are understandably hesitant  to enforce the rules that they are supposed to enforce.  For all I know those men may still be rotting in prison.

Bruce probably knows about that unfortunate incident. 

The wall is definitely a shit for brains concept.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: xSilverPhinx on January 20, 2018, 04:57:06 PM
(https://media1.tenor.com/images/b17de1bd2dc785e3cbd7be8b3a44de75/tenor.gif)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Tom62 on January 21, 2018, 08:48:15 AM
^ROFL :)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Papasito Bruno on January 22, 2018, 01:47:19 AM
I got in a big argument with a couple guys at the fitness center yesterday who were trying to blame the shutdown on the Democrats.

Trump is a Republican.
• The House is controlled by Republicans.
• The Senate is controlled by Republicans.
• The party in control determines what bills come to the floor for a vote.
• The Children's Health Insurance Program expired in September 2017.
• The Republican House and Senate never brought a bill to the floor to vote on extending it. Not once.
• President Trump, via executive order, revoked DACA protections several months ago. He gave Congress a deadline to fix the problem that he created completely on his own.
• Congress failed to come up with a solution to the President's unprovoked actions.
• Congress, which is run by Republicans, failed to address DACA, failed to address CHIP, and failed to address the budget, leaving essential government personnel, including the military, forced to function under months of a CR - continuing resolutions.
• The President, who is a Republican, failed to outline ANY type of position on... well, anything... besides tax cuts for rich folks and corporations.
• Today is the one year anniversary of Donald J. Trump being inaugurated. It is also the first time in American history that the government has shut down when one party has controlled all branches of government simultaneously.

It's rather simple.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Tom62 on January 22, 2018, 06:09:38 AM
I never understood how a government can run out of money, unless we are talking about third world countries. Must be an USA kind of thing. Seemed to  have happened several times before in the past as well.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Magdalena on January 22, 2018, 06:19:24 AM
I got in a big argument with a couple guys at the fitness center yesterday who were trying to blame the shutdown on the Democrats.

Trump is a Republican.
• The House is controlled by Republicans.
• The Senate is controlled by Republicans.
• The party in control determines what bills come to the floor for a vote.
• The Children's Health Insurance Program expired in September 2017.
• The Republican House and Senate never brought a bill to the floor to vote on extending it. Not once.
• President Trump, via executive order, revoked DACA protections several months ago. He gave Congress a deadline to fix the problem that he created completely on his own.
• Congress failed to come up with a solution to the President's unprovoked actions.
• Congress, which is run by Republicans, failed to address DACA, failed to address CHIP, and failed to address the budget, leaving essential government personnel, including the military, forced to function under months of a CR - continuing resolutions.
• The President, who is a Republican, failed to outline ANY type of position on... well, anything... besides tax cuts for rich folks and corporations.
• Today is the one year anniversary of Donald J. Trump being inaugurated. It is also the first time in American history that the government has shut down when one party has controlled all branches of government simultaneously.

It's rather simple.
Very nice explanation, P. Bruno :devil2:.
Very simple.  :smilenod:
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Davin on January 22, 2018, 02:28:44 PM
McConnel denied a vote to pay the military through the shutdown, then still tries to say that it's the Democrats that are against the troops. Not anything new, the GOP often votes against even clean bills that increase the VA budget. The GOP heavily voted against the first responders bill that would pay for the health problems the first responders got from being first responders on 9/11. They did it for years while also using 9/11 to justify all manor of constitutional violations.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Papasito Bruno on January 22, 2018, 03:22:04 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/XalG2oM.jpg)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Icarus on January 22, 2018, 11:32:15 PM
Here is a distraction for my Trump bashing brothers and sisters.  It's a quiz that might be fun.....or not.  https://www.sporcle.com/games/zigga/trump-tweets
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Davin on January 23, 2018, 01:37:46 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/kPMBJfD.png)

Though I did guess on some of them because he's said similar things. I missed the Jose Canseco one. Most were easy, because if they were funny then they definitely weren't from Trump.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on January 23, 2018, 02:49:55 PM
Quiz dies not work well on my tablet - no onscreen keyboard shows...

Not sure what the current situation is but the Scientific American (https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/can-compact-fluorescent-lightbulbs-damage-skin/) seemed to think it was a problem back in 2012.

Treat the new bulbs gently and there us less problem. Hmm, think I will swap my inspection lamp back to a halide bulb - not that I spend hours working near it...
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Magdalena on January 23, 2018, 04:26:53 PM
Here is a distraction for my Trump bashing brothers and sisters.  It's a quiz that might be fun.....or not.  https://www.sporcle.com/games/zigga/trump-tweets
This Trump bashing sister got, 18/20. 90%. ;D
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Magdalena on January 23, 2018, 08:24:13 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/kPMBJfD.png)

Though I did guess on some of them because he's said similar things. I missed the Jose Canseco one. Most were easy, because if they were funny then they definitely weren't from Trump.
^^^
 :lol:
Quote
Albert Einstein called. He wants his brain back.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Davin on January 23, 2018, 08:43:34 PM
^^^
 :lol:
Quote
Albert Einstein called. He wants his brain back.
:lol:
How did they know I had it?
(https://78.media.tumblr.com/ecb150fe34285ad547779944c4297ee5/tumblr_owqmat4RCX1qmob6ro1_500.gif)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Magdalena on January 23, 2018, 10:07:02 PM
^^^
 :lol:
Quote
Albert Einstein called. He wants his brain back.
:lol:
How did they know I had it?
(https://78.media.tumblr.com/ecb150fe34285ad547779944c4297ee5/tumblr_owqmat4RCX1qmob6ro1_500.gif)
And how was Einstein able to ask for it if he didn't have it?  :eyebrow:
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Davin on January 24, 2018, 02:36:05 PM
Maybe he was calling from the jar.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Magdalena on January 24, 2018, 04:07:37 PM
Maybe he was calling from the jar.
That reminds me...
Let's get back to Trump:
(https://i.imgur.com/nRItqFX.png)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Davin on January 24, 2018, 04:14:47 PM
(https://www.performanceicreate.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Incompetence-Incompetence-Everywhere.jpg)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Icarus on January 24, 2018, 11:35:25 PM
Here is a guy who does not quite respect our president. NSFW (depending on where you happen to work).....   R rated.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: xSilverPhinx on January 25, 2018, 09:42:41 PM
^That's a good rant. :popcorn:
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on January 25, 2018, 09:58:30 PM
El Trumpo has told our Prime Moron Minister that there will be lots of trade between our two countries in the future.

Why do I want to say, "Yeah, yeah . . .  whatever," and hope we have more stable and reliable alternatives.

Be jnteresting to see if Ol' Snowflake is of the same mind after he has experienced the Great British Unwelcome predicted if he visits.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on January 26, 2018, 09:06:27 PM
News from Davos seems to indicate that the tone of Trump's speech, regarding "America First" and the global economy, was at odds to his usual rhetoric. There is no relying on this person to stick to one policy line - can't even rely on his output being "fake views" any more.

One pundit said, in effect, that he was playing to the crowd again since his base, to whom he offered the reverse, would not be listening to this on the whole so he was on safe ground.

Seems he is anti predatory trade behaviour and bullying (?) - hope he tells the American companies who are trying to export things like GM foods and chlorine washed chicken etc to Europe, against European law.

Sorry, this man is President Shithead.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Icarus on January 29, 2018, 09:43:51 PM
A conceptual analysis possibly worth reading: https://arcdigital.media/does-trump-deserve-credit-for-his-year-one-achievements-c2a6509ab1e8
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Magdalena on January 31, 2018, 05:01:40 AM
Did anyone else, besides me, not watch the, State of the Union?
That 'orange thing' is not worthy of my time.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Davin on January 31, 2018, 01:31:57 PM
I didn't watch it, but there was a drinking game for it.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/redeye/bars/ct-redeye-state-of-the-union-drinking-game-20180129-story.html
Quote
Take one drink whenever…

  • Trump strikes his goofy “thumbs up” pose
  • Trump mentions his electoral college win and/or the size of his inauguration crowd
  • Trump spreads his arms out
  • Trump says some variation of “People are saying, more and more”
  • Trump talks about “bringing X back, folks” or “making Y bigger than ever” (e.g. jobs, stock market, State of the Union speeches, democracy)
  • Kellyanne Conway scares you
  • You notice the size of Trump’s hands

I think it was designed to kill people with alcohol poisoning.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Magdalena on January 31, 2018, 04:30:08 PM
I didn't watch it, but there was a drinking game for it.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/redeye/bars/ct-redeye-state-of-the-union-drinking-game-20180129-story.html
Quote
Take one drink whenever…

  • Trump strikes his goofy “thumbs up” pose
  • Trump mentions his electoral college win and/or the size of his inauguration crowd
  • Trump spreads his arms out
  • Trump says some variation of “People are saying, more and more”
  • Trump talks about “bringing X back, folks” or “making Y bigger than ever” (e.g. jobs, stock market, State of the Union speeches, democracy)
  • Kellyanne Conway scares you
  • You notice the size of Trump’s hands

I think it was designed to kill people with alcohol poisoning.
:rofl:
Or to give them the most wonderful time of their lives.  :grin:

Here's another one:
San Diegans Hurl Chanclas at Trump During State of the Union Speech

www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/San-Diegans-Hurl-Chanclas-at-Trump-During-State-of-the-Union-Speech-471939373.html (http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/San-Diegans-Hurl-Chanclas-at-Trump-During-State-of-the-Union-Speech-471939373.html)

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One group of San Diegans held a community watch party for President Donald Trump’s first State of the Union Speech that many may consider disrespectful. Those in attendance described it as "cathartic."

Instead of not applauding, booing or even jeering at something they didn't like, the audience threw shoes and sandals at the screen.

In some Hispanic homes, chanclas or flip flops are used to discipline. Throwing one is a sign of disagreement or anger.
...

I must say that I've never used a chancla to discipline my kids, or any kind of violence, but I would probably use it if I had a kid like Tantrum Throwing Toddler Trump.  ;D

Edit: Fixed spelling.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on January 31, 2018, 04:38:37 PM
Just wsiting for an anslysis - what little I heard sounded like a Trump rally, if without quite do much shouting.

The point about black employment has already been challenged, it was said that the increase started before Trump got elected and that if whites had the same employed : unemployed ratio there would be great gnashing of teeth in all parts of Congress.

I cannot blame anyone for protecting the interest of their country, unless doing so proves to be detrimemtal. Play hardball with others and the can play the same game - isolating America even more than it is now. But I am ambivalent regarding the threats China might offer ,Trump might have some points there

So, just the usual political lies misrepresentations and appeals to emotion nationalism then? Probably. I would bet Putin liked the speech.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on January 31, 2018, 04:45:24 PM
I didn't watch it, but there was a drinking game for it.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/redeye/bars/ct-redeye-state-of-the-union-drinking-game-20180129-story.html
Quote
Take one drink whenever…

  • Trump strikes his goofy “thumbs up” pose
  • Trump mentions his electoral college win and/or the size of his inauguration crowd
  • Trump spreads his arms out
  • Trump says some variation of “People are saying, more and more”
  • Trump talks about “bringing X back, folks” or “making Y bigger than ever” (e.g. jobs, stock market, State of the Union speeches, democracy)
  • Kellyanne Conway scares you
  • You notice the size of Trump’s hands

I think it was designed to kill people with alcohol poisoning.
:rofl:
Or to give them the most wonderful time of their lives.  :grin:

Here's another one:
San Diegans Hurl Chanclas at Trump During State of the Union Speech

www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/San-Diegans-Hurl-Chanclas-at-Trump-During-State-of-the-Union-Speech-471939373.html (http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/San-Diegans-Hurl-Chanclas-at-Trump-During-State-of-the-Union-Speech-471939373.html)

Quote
One group of San Diegans held a community watch party for President Donald Trump’s first State of the Union Speech that many may consider disrespectful. Those in attendance described it as "cathartic."

Instead of not applauding, booing or even jeering at something they didn't like, the audience threw shoes and sandals at the screen.

In some Hispanic homes, chanclas or flip flops are used to discipline. Throwing one is a sign of disagreement or anger.
...

I must say that I've never used a chancla to discipline my kids, or any kind of violence, but I would probably use it if I had a kid like Tantrum Trowing Toddler Trump.  ;D

Hitting people with shoes, or throwing them, is a fairly common display of displeaure. Even Kruschev did it, symbolically, by beating the lectern with his shoe at the UN some (many) years ago. Iraqi's beat Saddam's statue with their shoes when it was pulled down and showing a person the soles of your shoes or feet is an aggressive insult in Greece. Could be a way of saying, "You are dirt beneath my feet," without actually stomping the person.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Tom62 on February 01, 2018, 04:31:53 AM
Seems to me that Trump's first year wasn't too bad. Economy is good, unemployment is low; much however can still be attributed to the Obama presidency. However companies want to invest in America again, especially since the tax reforms made it very profitable for them to do so. In general I would give Trump a B+. He scores however very low in social skills, charm, diplomacy and empathy though.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on February 01, 2018, 05:59:35 AM
Seems to me that Trump's first year wasn't too bad. Economy is good, unemployment is low; much however can still be attributed to the Obama presidency. However companies want to invest in America again, especially since the tax reforms made it very profitable for them to do so. In general I would give Trump a B+. He scores however very low in social skills, charm, diplomacy and empathy though.

So Trump has not (yet) managed to totally undo the positive trends from before his election? He is, sometimes, realising he cannot be the autocrat that he was in hisbown companies. Yet, if the current fight between him and the FBI is as reported, he is not above trying to put pressure on legal entities to bend in his favour.

OK, all politicians try to sway by hints, at least, but with Trump one cannot be blamed for thinking this is a personal image thing rather than for party or ideological reasons. The progression through mention, denial then threat to sacking or attempted discreditation seems to become a well worn travk.

In this multi/(anti)social-media driven world celebrity, charisma, empty rhetoric, egotism etc seem to be accepted substitues for knowledge, experience, intelligence and mature consideration. Truth and justice (maybe even global peace in this case) are the natural victims of such behaviour.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Davin on February 01, 2018, 02:16:18 PM
Seems to me that Trump's first year wasn't too bad. Economy is good, unemployment is low; much however can still be attributed to the Obama presidency. However companies want to invest in America again, especially since the tax reforms made it very profitable for them to do so. In general I would give Trump a B+. He scores however very low in social skills, charm, diplomacy and empathy though.
B+ is too high a grade I think.

With control of the house and senate, as well as majority in SCOTUS and pumping in unqualified judges into federal lifetime seats, Trump has managed to do less than any other president in his first year (except his over 300 rounds of golf, of course).

Out of 100.

Because of his constant criticizing of Obama golfing, he loses 25 points (75/100) for golfing in one year almost more than Obama did over eight. A lot of that tax payer money goes right into his pockets because he's going to his own resorts. He's paying himself with tax payer money to vacation.

25 marks off (50/100) for violating the emoluments clause of the constitution, the thing that he swore to uphold when he took office. We still care about the U.S Constitution right?

15 marks off (35/100) for firing Comey because of the Russian investigation.

95% of everything Trump says is either misleading or an outright lie, so 10 marks off for that (25/100).

10 marks off (15/100) for being in a party that has, for the last 30 years, bitched and moaned about the national debt, then when they got their chance, they voted in and he signed a bill that increases it by 1.5 trillion.

5 marks off (10/100) for whining about Obama going on vacation every once in a while costing in taxes, then spending nearly every weekend flying out to his golf resorts costing more in one year than Obama spent in eight.

5 marks off (5/100) for the Muslim ban for not banning any country that terrorists that attacked America came from.

5 marks off (0/100)for being Putin's bitch, praising Putin all the time, and not enacting the sanctions that 99% of the house and senate voted on.

5 marks off (-5/100) for breaking many of his promises: that the wall would be paid for my Mexico, not increasing veteran's healthcare, not banning foreign lobbyists from raising money in US elections, not achieving energy independence, not banning Muslims from entering the US... etc.

There's more, but he's already below zero.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on February 01, 2018, 05:55:46 PM
Trumpet features is at it again, claiming his SoU speech had the highest ever audience - W.R.O.N.G.

Quote
"Thank you for all of the nice compliments and reviews on the State of the Union speech," Mr Trump tweeted on Thursday morning.

"45.6 million people watched, the highest number in history."

But according to Nielsen data, Mr Obama's first official State of the Union speech in 2010 attracted 48 million viewers.

Mr Clinton's State of the Union pulled in a record 66.9 million television viewers in 1993.

Mr Bush pulled in 62.1 million in 2003, a few weeks before the Iraq War.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-42897622

Corroborated and detailed in:
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/01/trump-says-state-of-the-union-viewership-biggest-ever-but-he-is-wrong.html
http://variety.com/2018/tv/news/trump-state-of-the-union-ratings-1202682703/

Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Magdalena on February 01, 2018, 11:13:40 PM
Why is Trump talking about things he doesn't know much about...? Oh, wait, that would be everything.

I heard through the grapevine that he's bugging Salvadorans again. What is it with him and us? Doesn't he have bigger fish to catch? Is he "stuck" in the 80's?

If he's gonna hate Salvadoran gangs, shouldn't he hate all of them...every single one of them?

Anyone who knows about gangs knows that the MS-13 is a small gang, compared with the Bloods, Crips and Almighty Latin King Nation.   
And the:
Aryan Brotherhood of Texas
Brotherhood
Aryan Circle
Aryan Nation
Aryan Republic army
Keystone State Skinheads
Ku Klux Klan
Hells Angels Motorcycle Club
The Order
Black Legion
Lynwood Vikings
Keystone United
European Kindred
Volksfront
Hammerskins
Blood & Honour

https://listverse.com/2016/11/12/10-white-supremacist-gangs/ (https://listverse.com/2016/11/12/10-white-supremacist-gangs/)

Why didn't he invite the family of Heather Heyer to the state of the union? She was killed by a white supremacist at a rally in Charlottesville, Virginia.

I find it interesting how some people call them, supremacy "groups" when they're really gangs as well. Gangs of racist thugs. Trump just wants to associate immigrants with crime. Is he saying: "It's a god damned given right to commit a crime, but only if you're white?"

I'm just saying...You know?

Edit: Added a few words to make it clearer.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Davin on February 02, 2018, 07:26:00 PM
So Trump keeps repeating KKK's and other white supremacist groups slogan, "America first" and gets applauded and praised for it by the GoP from regular party members all the way up to the top elected representatives.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Sandra Craft on February 02, 2018, 10:21:16 PM
I find it interesting how some people call them, supremacy "groups" when they're really gangs as well. Gangs of racist thugs. Trump just wants to associate immigrants with crime. Is he saying: "It's a god damned given right to commit a crime, but only if you're white?"

Yes.  That is exactly what he and every alt-righter is saying.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Sandra Craft on February 02, 2018, 10:24:48 PM
So Trump keeps repeating KKK's and other white supremacist groups slogan, "America first" and gets applauded and praised for it by the GoP from regular party members all the way up to the top elected representatives.

I'm just waiting for the day he starts saying "you will not replace me".
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Ecurb Noselrub on February 03, 2018, 01:53:35 AM
Why is Trump talking about things he doesn't know much about...? Oh, wait, that would be everything.

I heard through the grapevine that he's bugging Salvadorans again. What is it with him and us? Doesn't he have bigger fish to catch? Is he "stuck" in the 80's?

If he's gonna hate Salvadoran gangs, shouldn't he hate all of them...every single one of them?

Anyone who knows about gangs knows that the MS-13 is a small gang, compared with the Bloods, Crips and Almighty Latin King Nation.   
And the:
Aryan Brotherhood of Texas
Brotherhood
Aryan Circle
Aryan Nation
Aryan Republic army
Keystone State Skinheads
Ku Klux Klan
Hells Angels Motorcycle Club
The Order
Black Legion
Lynwood Vikings
Keystone United
European Kindred
Volksfront
Hammerskins
Blood & Honour

https://listverse.com/2016/11/12/10-white-supremacist-gangs/ (https://listverse.com/2016/11/12/10-white-supremacist-gangs/)

Why didn't he invite the family of Heather Heyer to the state of the union? She was killed by a white supremacist at a rally in Charlottesville, Virginia.

I find it interesting how some people call them, supremacy "groups" when they're really gangs as well. Gangs of racist thugs. Trump just wants to associate immigrants with crime. Is he saying: "It's a god damned given right to commit a crime, but only if you're white?"

I'm just saying...You know?

Edit: Added a few words to make it clearer.

Salvadorans are the cause of all our troubles.  They promise to bring "salvation" but what do they bring?  Magdalena - witches!!!  Witches are to blame for our problems, and they all come from El Salvador.  "The Savior" - hah!  They are flooding our streets with their curses, corrupting the minds of our youth with their spells, inflicting untold misery with their enchantments.  Did you know that "Magdalena" spelled backwards is "Aneladgam"??? Do you know what that means? It means "witch" in Third Century BCE Reformed Kyrgyz. (Don't bother looking it up - it's a secret language).  That should convince you that Salvadorans are wicked to the core.  We need to build a wall - not at the Rio Grande, but just north of El Salvador.  Much cheaper, because it just has to go across the isthmus, not across the southwestern desert of the USA.  We built the Panama Canal - now let's build the Salvadoran Wall!!! Keep the witches out!

Yes, I know, build a 30 foot wall and the Salvadoran witches will bring a 31 foot broomstick.  But we can get those flying sorcerers with our drones.  We just 25 billion dollars, now!
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Magdalena on February 03, 2018, 05:30:11 AM
Why is Trump talking about things he doesn't know much about...? Oh, wait, that would be everything.

I heard through the grapevine that he's bugging Salvadorans again. What is it with him and us? Doesn't he have bigger fish to catch? Is he "stuck" in the 80's?

If he's gonna hate Salvadoran gangs, shouldn't he hate all of them...every single one of them?

Anyone who knows about gangs knows that the MS-13 is a small gang, compared with the Bloods, Crips and Almighty Latin King Nation.   
And the:
Aryan Brotherhood of Texas
Brotherhood
Aryan Circle
Aryan Nation
Aryan Republic army
Keystone State Skinheads
Ku Klux Klan
Hells Angels Motorcycle Club
The Order
Black Legion
Lynwood Vikings
Keystone United
European Kindred
Volksfront
Hammerskins
Blood & Honour

https://listverse.com/2016/11/12/10-white-supremacist-gangs/ (https://listverse.com/2016/11/12/10-white-supremacist-gangs/)

Why didn't he invite the family of Heather Heyer to the state of the union? She was killed by a white supremacist at a rally in Charlottesville, Virginia.

I find it interesting how some people call them, supremacy "groups" when they're really gangs as well. Gangs of racist thugs. Trump just wants to associate immigrants with crime. Is he saying: "It's a god damned given right to commit a crime, but only if you're white?"

I'm just saying...You know?

Edit: Added a few words to make it clearer.

Salvadorans are the cause of all our troubles.  They promise to bring "salvation" but what do they bring?  Magdalena - witches!!!  Witches are to blame for our problems, and they all come from El Salvador.  "The Savior" - hah!  They are flooding our streets with their curses, corrupting the minds of our youth with their spells, inflicting untold misery with their enchantments.  Did you know that "Magdalena" spelled backwards is "Aneladgam"??? Do you know what that means? It means "witch" in Third Century BCE Reformed Kyrgyz. (Don't bother looking it up - it's a secret language).  That should convince you that Salvadorans are wicked to the core.  We need to build a wall - not at the Rio Grande, but just north of El Salvador.  Much cheaper, because it just has to go across the isthmus, not across the southwestern desert of the USA.  We built the Panama Canal - now let's build the Salvadoran Wall!!! Keep the witches out!

Yes, I know, build a 30 foot wall and the Salvadoran witches will bring a 31 foot broomstick.  But we can get those flying sorcerers with our drones.  We just 25 billion dollars, now!

Ecurb Noselrub!  >:(
Really! I like you, but sometimes you behave like that Republican in the family that shows up at every single Thanks Giving dinner and spills the beans!

We have company! Not right now. Not in front of Rift Zone! You always do this, every time someone new comes to the forum you have to tell them about how I just came out of the broom closet!

The spells I cast, the enchantments, the herbs and spices I use in the privacy of my bedroom is no -one's business. What happens in a witche's room, stays in her room, especially all the unguents, psychedelic paraphernalia and the size of my broom!

Rift Zone, I'm sorry you had to see this.
 :picard facepalm:
I'm ssssoooo embarrassed.
He does it all the time.
 :secrets1: If you see a newt, crawling around here, don't believe the rumors.


(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRKwEjrIaa4fXr-kx52zGF1Chzi04sjzF1jN8KNWyJa2rDBCasm)
Not all of us are members of The Mara Salvatrucha.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: hermes2015 on February 03, 2018, 05:40:59 AM
The spells I cast, the enchantments, the herbs and spices I use in the privacy of my bedroom is no -one's business. What happens in a witche's room, stays in her room, especially all the unguents, psychedelic paraphernalia and the size of my broom!

Call me a size queen, but I LOVE the size of your broom!
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Magdalena on February 03, 2018, 06:09:56 AM
I find it interesting how some people call them, supremacy "groups" when they're really gangs as well. Gangs of racist thugs. Trump just wants to associate immigrants with crime. Is he saying: "It's a god damned given right to commit a crime, but only if you're white?"

Yes.  That is exactly what he and every alt-righter is saying.

Trump’s grandfather Frederick Trump emigrated from Germany to the United States. His wife is from
Novo Mesto, Slovenia. His ex is Czech-American. His ex-ex is from who knows where... His son in law's paternal grandparents, Reichel and Joseph Kushner, were Holocaust survivors who came to the U.S. in 1949 from Navahrudak, Belarus.
--And Trump is anti- immigrant!?  :worried:
What's wrong with this man!?

I guess this fake tweet is not far from his distorted truth.
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQk2Asev53sn3O8i8fL9E0UY0A8zMXp7CF-wPawWkml459jjjLW)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Magdalena on February 03, 2018, 06:20:30 AM
The spells I cast, the enchantments, the herbs and spices I use in the privacy of my bedroom is no -one's business. What happens in a witche's room, stays in her room, especially all the unguents, psychedelic paraphernalia and the size of my broom!

Call me a size queen, but I LOVE the size of your broom!
hermes2015, man!
(https://media2.giphy.com/media/ag863jwW52Gk/giphy.gif)
You don't know the size of my broom.
 :lol:
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: hermes2015 on February 03, 2018, 07:41:28 AM
The spells I cast, the enchantments, the herbs and spices I use in the privacy of my bedroom is no -one's business. What happens in a witche's room, stays in her room, especially all the unguents, psychedelic paraphernalia and the size of my broom!

Call me a size queen, but I LOVE the size of your broom!
hermes2015, man!
(https://media2.giphy.com/media/ag863jwW52Gk/giphy.gif)
You don't know the size of my broom.
 :lol:

No, but I can dream, can't I?
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Magdalena on February 03, 2018, 05:46:32 PM
^^^
Fine. You can do that. :snicker:
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Ecurb Noselrub on February 03, 2018, 08:15:25 PM
In reality, you are the Good Witch from El Salvador.  I'm sure there is a shrine to you someplace down there.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Magdalena on February 03, 2018, 08:41:47 PM
In reality, you are the Good Witch from El Salvador.  I'm sure there is a shrine to you someplace down there.
You're funny.  :lol:
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Ecurb Noselrub on February 03, 2018, 08:59:44 PM
In reality, you are the Good Witch from El Salvador.  I'm sure there is a shrine to you someplace down there.
You're funny.  :lol:

Were you alive during the Mayan period?  I don't know how long Salvadoran witches live. 
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Magdalena on February 03, 2018, 10:33:36 PM
In reality, you are the Good Witch from El Salvador.  I'm sure there is a shrine to you someplace down there.
You're funny.  :lol:

Were you alive during the Mayan period?  I don't know how long Salvadoran witches live.
I'm not sure.
I stopped counting many, many centuries ago.  :sadshake:

How long have you been a witch hater, I mean hunter?  :eyebrow:
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Icarus on February 26, 2018, 05:33:53 AM
  Interesting article. Worth the read.     https://medium.com/@tswriting/why-trump-lies-7489e35997e6
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on February 26, 2018, 06:57:22 AM
  Interesting article. Worth the read.     https://medium.com/@tswriting/why-trump-lies-7489e35997e6

Yes, very interesting, thanks, Icarus.

I worry a bit about the familiarity and fatigue factors - the generators of apathy. After a while perhaps the thought, "Oh, he's just banging his lips together again," enters the mind and you tend to dismiss it - ignoring the effect it is having on a, possibly large, section of the population. Those who believe and follow such "leaders" are either working on their own sgenda or immune to critical thinking and logic. Such an attitude can soread into other factors in national and personal motivation.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Ecurb Noselrub on February 26, 2018, 12:55:17 PM
Latest poll shows his popularity back down to 35%.  His core won’t let it go much below that, but if he stays there he will drag GOP candidates down in the midterm.  November 6 is our best chance to nullify his administration. Vote!
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Magdalena on April 27, 2018, 08:42:43 AM
:picard facepalm:
Trump had a revealing meltdown on 'Fox & Friends' this morning.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.yahoo.com/amphtml/entertainment/trump-fox-friends-meltdown-130955283.html (https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.yahoo.com/amphtml/entertainment/trump-fox-friends-meltdown-130955283.html)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on April 27, 2018, 09:19:51 AM
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Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on April 27, 2018, 11:09:29 AM
Oops
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Davin on April 27, 2018, 02:40:51 PM
And the fuckers on Fox & Friends protected him by stopping him from incriminating himself further. If it wasn't already clear that Fox News is a GOP propaganda channel, that should seal it up.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: joeactor on April 27, 2018, 02:55:25 PM
And the fuckers on Fox & Friends protected him by stopping him from incriminating himself further. If it wasn't already clear that Fox News is a GOP propaganda channel, that should seal it up.

They all had that deer in the headlights look.

I bet the floor director was screaming in their ear "Get him off! He's incriminating himself!"
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Davin on April 27, 2018, 04:47:01 PM
They probably got a call right from Rupert Murdoch.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on April 27, 2018, 04:56:51 PM
Donald Trump, the man who nearly fucked Fuck News!
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Arturo on April 27, 2018, 07:10:37 PM
He's a delusional psychopath lol
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Davin on April 27, 2018, 08:42:39 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/apr/27/us-economy-slowed-in-first-quarter-after-trumps-15tn-tax-cuts
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US economic growth slowed moderately in the first quarter, the first preliminary assessment of the health of the economy since Donald Trump signed huge tax cuts into law last year.

Gross domestic product (GDP) – a broad measure of goods and services produced in the US – rose at an annual rate of 2.3% from January through March, the commerce department said on Friday.

The figure was lower than the fourth quarter, when GDP grew at a 2.9%, and the third quarter, which saw an increase of 3.2%.

I mean, it's possible that it was just a slow quarter, those happen. But it does fly in the face of the promised growth the tax cuts were supposed to bring.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Magdalena on April 27, 2018, 11:23:21 PM
And the fuckers on Fox & Friends protected him by stopping him from incriminating himself further.
"The fuckers on Fox & Friends ."  :lol:

They did "try" didn't they? :lol:

The whole thing was like a steam locomotive...derailing... with no brakes ...while a semi-drunk train conductor does his best to shut the fuck up, but he just can't.

 ;D
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on April 30, 2018, 04:49:06 PM
Moon Jae-in, the President of S. Korea, has suggested that the Trump get the Nobel Peace Prize for getting N. Korea to drop its nuclear ambitions and wave its pegs in the air.

I am hoping this is his idea of a joke if it is true. Two things come to mind:
1. That the N.K. testing facility is reported, by Chinese scientists admittedly, to have failed in a possibly unsafe manner.
2. The test site is not that far from China.
3. That Kim Jong-un visited Bejing not so long ago.

I wonder what the chances are that he got told to behave by the Chinese - on the QT of course, China does not interfere in the internal affairs of other countries . . .

Trump, and the disconnect between his brain and his mouth, is possibly a bigger threat to world peace than Kim, Putin and Hassan Rouhani rolled together
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Davin on April 30, 2018, 05:12:46 PM
This gave me a good laugh.


Note that she didn't make fun of Sarah Huckabee-Sanders' looks, but there was a bit of a kerfuffle about that anyway. There are also a bunch of fragile conservatives getting all upset about her language and jokes, but seem to have no problem with all the shit Trump says and does or that Republicans supported and tried to get a pedophile elected.

Whatever, I thought she was funny and great.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Tom62 on April 30, 2018, 05:40:51 PM
Moon Jae-in, the President of S. Korea, has suggested that the Trump get the Nobel Peace Prize for getting N. Korea to drop its nuclear ambitions and wave its pegs in the air.

I am hoping this is his idea of a joke if it is true. Two things come to mind:
1. That the N.K. testing facility is reported, by Chinese scientists admittedly, to have failed in a possibly unsafe manner.
2. The test site is not that far from China.
3. That Kim Jong-un visited Bejing not so long ago.

I wonder what the chances are that he got told to behave by the Chinese - on the QT of course, China does not interfere in the internal affairs of other countries . . .

Trump, and the disconnect between his brain and his mouth, is possibly a bigger threat to world peace than Kim, Putin and Hassan Rouhani rolled together

I won't mind if Trump gets the price. The price is worthless anyway. It is politically biased and riddled with controversies. Palestinian terrorist Yasser Arafat won it, as well as Obama (who didn't do anything for it); even the European Union and Al Gore got it. "Funny" enough in 1939 member of the Swedish parliament Erik Gottfrid Christian Brandt nominated German dictator Adolf Hitler.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on April 30, 2018, 05:46:40 PM
Moon Jae-in, the President of S. Korea, has suggested that the Trump get the Nobel Peace Prize for getting N. Korea to drop its nuclear ambitions and wave its pegs in the air.

I am hoping this is his idea of a joke if it is true. Two things come to mind:
1. That the N.K. testing facility is reported, by Chinese scientists admittedly, to have failed in a possibly unsafe manner.
2. The test site is not that far from China.
3. That Kim Jong-un visited Bejing not so long ago.

I wonder what the chances are that he got told to behave by the Chinese - on the QT of course, China does not interfere in the internal affairs of other countries . . .

Trump, and the disconnect between his brain and his mouth, is possibly a bigger threat to world peace than Kim, Putin and Hassan Rouhani rolled together

I won't mind if Trump gets the price. The price is worthless anyway. It is politically biased and riddled with controversies. Palestinian terrorist Yasser Arafat won it, as well as Obama (who didn't do anything for it); even the European Union and Al Gore got it. "Funny" enough in 1939 member of the Swedish parliament Erik Gottfrid Christian Brandt nominated German dictator Adolf Hitler.

True, Trump getting it would only add to the farce.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on May 05, 2018, 10:15:39 AM
Was Trump's NRA speech just about his most stupid yet? Come to think of it was it about the most stupid speech ever - by anyone? Well, considering his audience I suppose it was presented at just the right level.

Quote
The 40 most breathtaking lines from Donald Trump's NRA speech

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/05/04/politics/donald-trump-speech-nra/index.html

[Large part of the original post moved to "Mass shooting" thread.]
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Ecurb Noselrub on May 06, 2018, 05:21:40 PM
Giuliani says Trump might plead the Fifth.  This is the same administration that said only guilty people plead the Fifth.  Giuliani said every lawyer in the country thinks only a fool would testify, and Trump wants to testify.  Hmmmm.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Arturo on May 06, 2018, 05:49:28 PM
Giuliani says Trump might plead the Fifth.  This is the same administration that said only guilty people plead the Fifth.  Giuliani said every lawyer in the country thinks only a fool would testify, and Trump wants to testify.  Hmmmm.

I would love it if someone walked up to him while he is ranting and just slapped him in the face lol

But more realistically they would put a gag order on him if he wasn't the president.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Davin on May 07, 2018, 03:07:36 PM
Giuliani says Trump might plead the Fifth.  This is the same administration that said only guilty people plead the Fifth.  Giuliani said every lawyer in the country thinks only a fool would testify, and Trump wants to testify.  Hmmmm.

I would love it if someone walked up to him while he is ranting and just slapped him in the face lol

But more realistically they would put a gag order on him if he wasn't the president.
I would rather him talk about things on camera without someone around to stop him.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Arturo on May 07, 2018, 04:29:23 PM
Giuliani says Trump might plead the Fifth.  This is the same administration that said only guilty people plead the Fifth.  Giuliani said every lawyer in the country thinks only a fool would testify, and Trump wants to testify.  Hmmmm.

I would love it if someone walked up to him while he is ranting and just slapped him in the face lol

But more realistically they would put a gag order on him if he wasn't the president.
I would rather him talk about things on camera without someone around to stop him.

Yes that will be more useful. He can be slapped after he is done giving his testimony the following week.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Davin on May 18, 2018, 07:44:29 PM
Watch Rudy call it unfair when shown his hypocrisy.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Arturo on May 18, 2018, 07:57:48 PM
How are Republicans this retarded. Rudy goes on to expose that Donald and his Lawyer said something that they earlier denied, then said was true. And then he goes on to say HE (Rudy) didn't say something, which he did. I can understand if he doesn't remember and the press tries to embarass him but come on. Don't go around saying this bullshit if you can't handle it. Just do what you can and then leave. Better people can do this job.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on May 18, 2018, 08:08:28 PM
How are Republicans this retarded. Rudy goes on to expose that Donald and his Lawyer said something that they earlier denied, then said was true. And then he goes on to say HE (Rudy) didn't say something, which he did. I can understand if he doesn't remember and the press tries to embarass him but come on. Don't go around saying this bullshit if you can't handle it. Just do what you can and then leave. Better people can do this job.

Part of political strategy is to say lies are truths and black is another shade of white so often, in so many ways that what you say becomes accepted as gospel by those who vote your way. Then you have a big public support base that even the liberal media fear to confront.

I admit to doing it myself during a long argument about a local road junction. I suggested we always call it, "The badly designed Eastern Avenue junction." The reporting started off quoting, "The so-called badly designed . . .". After six months "so-called" got dropped, it was just, "The badly desigbed . . ." We won.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Icarus on May 24, 2018, 11:58:10 PM
Now that the Singapore meeting has been cancelled, does it mean that The Donald will have to wait longer for his Nobel Peace Prize?
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Arturo on May 25, 2018, 12:06:20 AM
Now that the Singapore meeting has been cancelled, does it mean that The Donald will have to wait longer for his Nobel Peace Prize?

You know he's going to ask for it anyway. Saying he deserves it.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Davin on May 29, 2018, 03:31:39 PM
No matter what though, he'll be worse than Obama on that, Obama got his in his second month, Trump already missed that.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Arturo on May 29, 2018, 05:28:06 PM
No matter what though, he'll be worse than Obama on that, Obama got his in his second month, Trump already missed that.

I hope someone tweeted that to him haha
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on May 31, 2018, 06:32:39 PM
Well, the Chump has reinstated the steel and aluminium tarrifs on Europe and others. Guessing the price of orange juice, Bourbon and a few other things will go up as retaliation starts. Guessing some American manufacturers will have to up their prices as the cost of imported special alloys also goes up - that's going to hit the military industries and budget if what I have heard is correct.

Also going to make the Brexiteers even more unhappy, May was relying on trade with America to balance things out initially. But, with "friends" like Trump commercial and economic enemies are redundant. This has the potential to make everyone unhappy.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Arturo on May 31, 2018, 07:14:36 PM
Well, the Chump has reinstated the steel and aluminium tarrifs on Europe and others. Guessing the price of orange juice, Bourbon and a few other things will go up as retaliation starts. Guessing some American manufacturers will have to up their prices as the cost of imported special alloys also goes up - that's going to hit the military industries and budget if what I have heard is correct.

Also going to make the Brexiteers even more unhappy, May was relying on trade with America to balance things out initially. But, with "friends" like Trump commercial and economic enemies are redundant. This has the potential to make everyone unhappy.

Gasoline already went back up to $3.00 a gallon. During Obama, the price was going down. And got very close to the point before the prices started to spike upwards.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on May 31, 2018, 07:43:32 PM
Well, the Chump has reinstated the steel and aluminium tarrifs on Europe and others. Guessing the price of orange juice, Bourbon and a few other things will go up as retaliation starts. Guessing some American manufacturers will have to up their prices as the cost of imported special alloys also goes up - that's going to hit the military industries and budget if what I have heard is correct.

Also going to make the Brexiteers even more unhappy, May was relying on trade with America to balance things out initially. But, with "friends" like Trump commercial and economic enemies are redundant. This has the potential to make everyone unhappy.

Gasoline already went back up to $3.00 a gallon. During Obama, the price was going down. And got very close to the point before the prices started to spike upwards.
Check how much if that is an increase in tax to make up for the lowered sales due to higher prices of all goods.

If it follows normal patterns gas, tobacco and booze will get quite pricey. Everyone needs the first and I would take a guess that Chump's base use a lot of the other two. Word is that the EU intends to hit goods that come from Chump's strongest Republican states - Bourbon, Harlies etc.

Quote
EU starts retaliation process against U.S. tariffs
[...]
The 10-page list of products the EU may subject to tariffs ranges from rice to orange juice, make-up, motorcycles, motor boats and stainless sinks. It also includes many metals products for use in construction and industry.
[...]
Trump has ordered Ross to discuss “horrific” EU trade tariffs and barriers with Brussels and has also threatened to hit EU cars.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trade-eu/eu-starts-retaliation-process-against-u-s-tariffs-idUSKCN1GS1RZ

It's gonna be tit-for-fucking-tat with the small people suffering. Pity there is no way to freeze Trump's assets over here as a beligrrent, and probably dishonest, enemy of the state - treat him like we treat his Russian friends.

Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: jumbojak on May 31, 2018, 09:15:50 PM
We bought a piece of tubing yesterday that had nearly doubled in cost compared to a few months ago due to "tariffs." It's a fucking joke. To add insult to injury the bastards charged a cut fee when they had the right size and length sitting on the rack!
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Bad Penny II on June 02, 2018, 03:05:32 PM
China said, so the news said, they are going to buy more American stuff.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Tank on June 05, 2018, 07:57:45 AM
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Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on June 05, 2018, 08:38:08 AM
^
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Tank on June 05, 2018, 11:37:11 AM
^
 :thumbsup:

We can but hope!
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: MadBomr101 on June 15, 2018, 12:12:04 AM
So, in the past week, president Fuckstick has been spitting on all of our oldest friends and allies while licking the ass of some of the worst people on earth. He lauds and seeks the approval of authoritarian tyrants like Kim Jong Un, Rodrigo Duterte, and his personal man-crush, Vladimir Putin and shits on our G7 partners.

He yelled at Canada, for Crissakes. Who's less offensive than Canada?

Every day, I wake up and take the first minute to anticipate that he'll finally be gone. That the shoe will have dropped and he's being impeached followed by indictment and jail...but, no. After that minute, I turn on the news and he's still in charge, still being protected by the GOP leaders and still being supported by his braindead base who call his lunatic administration "making America great again." He's a liar, a cheat, a conman, and a hugely corrupt scumbag. Apparently, these are the qualifications one needs to hold the most powerful position in the world.

The Republican party has lost its mind.

Fuck me.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Tank on June 15, 2018, 06:25:44 AM
So, in the past week, president Fuckstick has been spitting on all of our oldest friends and allies while licking the ass of some of the worst people on earth. He lauds and seeks the approval of authoritarian tyrants like Kim Jong Un, Rodrigo Duterte, and his personal man-crush, Vladimir Putin and shits on our G7 partners.

He yelled at Canada, for Crissakes. Who's less offensive than Canada?

Every day, I wake up and take the first minute to anticipate that he'll finally be gone. That the shoe will have dropped and he's being impeached followed by indictment and jail...but, no. After that minute, I turn on the news and he's still in charge, still being protected by the GOP leaders and still being supported by his braindead base who call his lunatic administration "making America great again." He's a liar, a cheat, a conman, and a hugely corrupt scumbag. Apparently, these are the qualifications one needs to hold the most powerful position in the world.

The Republican party has lost its mind.

Fuck me.

Excellent rant!
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: MadBomr101 on June 16, 2018, 04:31:51 AM
Excellent rant!


I am blessed by God with a highly developed capacity to shoot off my mouth.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on June 19, 2018, 09:11:18 AM
The Chump seems to be so far up his own ass that he feels to be either

A. Immune from the negative effects of his own actions.

or

B. Justified in blaming those negative effects on others.

As the president he feels able to apply these to the whole nation.

It just ain't so. Asses will almost certainly be bitten.

The closest person to your ass is the one standing behind you.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on June 19, 2018, 09:12:17 AM
Oops, wrong button again!
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Davin on June 19, 2018, 03:02:41 PM
He has been immune to his own actions for half a century. If he had been held to account for any of the illegal shit he'd been doing, if the wealthy were held to the same standards as the rest of us, he would be in jail long before he ran for president.

Don't expect a man who threatened and intimidated African-Americans in his buildings to illegally evict them and got away with it without barely a fine to understand that there are consequences to his actions. He's felt only good consequences to his actions his whole life.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on June 19, 2018, 03:09:02 PM
He has been immune to his own actions for half a century. If he had been held to account for any of the illegal shit he'd been doing, if the wealthy were held to the same standards as the rest of us, he would be in jail long before he ran for president.

Don't expect a man who threatened and intimidated African-Americans in his buildings to illegally evict them and got away with it without barely a fine to understand that there are consequences to his actions. He's felt only good consequences to his actions his whole life.

Yes, good point. Says a lot about those Americans who backed, voted for and support him.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Davin on June 20, 2018, 03:36:52 PM
https://twitter.com/SteveSchmidtSES/status/1009325231004004352
Quote
29 years and nine months ago I registered to vote and became a member of The Republican Party which was founded in 1854 to oppose slavery and stand for the dignity of human life. Today I renounce my membership in the Republican Party. It is fully the party of Trump.

The whole thread is a good read.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: xSilverPhinx on June 20, 2018, 04:04:25 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/BPlnA-RjrR2/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=zssx08nj7bk8&r=wa1 (https://www.instagram.com/p/BPlnA-RjrR2/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=zssx08nj7bk8&r=wa1)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on June 20, 2018, 04:40:59 PM
https://twitter.com/SteveSchmidtSES/status/1009325231004004352
Quote
29 years and nine months ago I registered to vote and became a member of The Republican Party which was founded in 1854 to oppose slavery and stand for the dignity of human life. Today I renounce my membership in the Republican Party. It is fully the party of Trump.

The whole thread is a good read.

That point about pitching into a person who has finally seen the full darkness of the party he originally supported but is still hit by those in the party he is moving to, "So you say that now but what did you do about it last week, huh!?"  is so disheartening. Loyalty can be tenacious, even when your party is running counter to your basic values, you might feel trying to affect change from inside is better than dessertion until the utter obduracy of the leadership finally defeats your resolve. That is the way it should be. It also often generates the "zeal of the converted", something that can be "tamed" into productive action if handled well.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Davin on June 20, 2018, 04:53:48 PM
https://twitter.com/SteveSchmidtSES/status/1009325231004004352
Quote
29 years and nine months ago I registered to vote and became a member of The Republican Party which was founded in 1854 to oppose slavery and stand for the dignity of human life. Today I renounce my membership in the Republican Party. It is fully the party of Trump.

The whole thread is a good read.

That point about pitching into a person who has finally seen the full darkness of the party he originally supported but is still hit by those in the party he is moving to, "So you say that now but what did you do about it last week, huh!?"  is so disheartening. Loyalty can be tenacious, even when your party is running counter to your basic values, you might feel trying to affect change from inside is better than dessertion until the utter obduracy of the leadership finally defeats your resolve. That is the way it should be. It also often generates the "zeal of the converted", something that can be "tamed" into productive action if handled well.
This guy is not so innocent (he worked to help get Palin on the ticket), but when a person is willing to change and see that what they previously supported is not what they thought it was is something we should support. People change, people get better information, and things in the world change. So stop being so hard on the guy I think.

I fully support people deserting the GOP, even if they were previously shills for the GOP. I don't think this guy was a shill, but shy of people like Stephen Miller, I welcome people to leave the very corrupt and complicit Republican party. Forgive and move on.

I can see how someone could join the Republicans before Obama, they weren't so bad. I mean they were bad, but it was more hidden. Once joined, they would want to defend their group and try to justify things. But now, people who join or stay in that party have got to be pretty terrible people either because they are horrible people or because they aren't skeptical enough.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on June 20, 2018, 05:02:26 PM
https://twitter.com/SteveSchmidtSES/status/1009325231004004352
Quote
29 years and nine months ago I registered to vote and became a member of The Republican Party which was founded in 1854 to oppose slavery and stand for the dignity of human life. Today I renounce my membership in the Republican Party. It is fully the party of Trump.

The whole thread is a good read.

That point about pitching into a person who has finally seen the full darkness of the party he originally supported but is still hit by those in the party he is moving to, "So you say that now but what did you do about it last week, huh!?"  is so disheartening. Loyalty can be tenacious, even when your party is running counter to your basic values, you might feel trying to affect change from inside is better than dessertion until the utter obduracy of the leadership finally defeats your resolve. That is the way it should be. It also often generates the "zeal of the converted", something that can be "tamed" into productive action if handled well.
This guy is not so innocent (he worked to help get Palin on the ticket), but when a person is willing to change and see that what they previously supported is not what they thought it was is something we should support. People change, people get better information, and things in the world change. So stop being so hard on the guy I think.

I fully support people deserting the GOP, even if they were previously shills for the GOP. I don't think this guy was a shill, but shy of people like Stephen Miller, I welcome people to leave the very corrupt and complicit Republican party. Forgive and move on.

I can see how someone could join the Republicans before Obama, they weren't so bad. I mean they were bad, but it was more hidden. Once joined, they would want to defend their group and try to justify things. But now, people who join or stay in that party have got to be pretty terrible people either because they are horrible people or because they aren't skeptical enough.

A genuine, repentative convert can be a valuable asset if handled well - no matter what they did (within the law) prior to changeing sides.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Icarus on June 20, 2018, 08:46:37 PM
 :snicker:  https://extranewsfeed.com/if-trumps-impeachment-leads-to-civil-war-armed-rednecks-will-be-coming-for-you-2d644a84e8de
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on June 20, 2018, 08:52:54 PM
^
 :lol:

No.

Hang-on.

It makes sense!
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Sandra Craft on June 20, 2018, 10:57:19 PM
:snicker:  https://extranewsfeed.com/if-trumps-impeachment-leads-to-civil-war-armed-rednecks-will-be-coming-for-you-2d644a84e8de

I tell them and tell them, but I just can't get conservatives to understand that liberals have guns too.  This is America, after all. 
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Icarus on June 21, 2018, 03:21:11 AM
 ^I love it Sandy.  Matter of fact we do also have guns, not to mention brains and some degree of ferocity when/if the situation demands. Meanwhile let us enjoy the humor...... I hope that it was humor.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Sandra Craft on June 21, 2018, 03:37:06 AM
^I love it Sandy.  Matter of fact we do also have guns, not to mention brains and some degree of ferocity when/if the situation demands. Meanwhile let us enjoy the humor...... I hope that it was humor.

 ::)  Maybe.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: joeactor on June 21, 2018, 03:02:07 PM
Time's latest cover...

(https://timedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2018/06/trump-immigration-final.jpg)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Icarus on June 22, 2018, 11:59:13 PM
^ Damn that magazine cover. It makes me cry. I mean it.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on June 23, 2018, 03:58:35 AM
^ Damn that magazine cover. It makes me cry. I mean it.
Even though there now seems doubt as to whether that spefific child was actually separated from her mother that does not diminish Trump's inherent evil nature.

And it is rarely that I use the e-word without quotation marks.

He was, in effect, saying, "Let me have my wall and I''ll let the kids have their moms"  in effect. Responsible people are etill saying the wall is a waste of time and money. Just another symbol of Trump's closed mind.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/06/trump-allies-struggle-to-explain-why-child-seperation-detention-not-evil
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/30/opinion/immigration-family-separation-border.html
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on June 23, 2018, 05:30:21 AM
And Trump's cynical use of those "Angel families" who have lost loved ones to the actions of illegal inmigrants only deepens my sense of evil.

"'These people have been permanetly separated from loved ones, not just for a few days," is indeed true, but in no civilised way excuses the trauma caused to little kids, or even their parents, by the forced separations. Will he be taking any siblings of American murderers away from their families?

http://time.com/5320128/trump-undocumented-violence-border-separation/

And now it looks like tented camps may be set up for illegal immigrants on old military baees. Forced incarceration might make comparison with "concentration camps" difficult to avoid.

Recognising that immigration is a world wide problem, that no countries can really afford, does not make such practices justifiable. Though civilised  solutions are not going to be easy to find. Any allowed trickle rapidly becomes a flood and not all immigrants are truly in fear for their freedom or lives.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: xSilverPhinx on June 23, 2018, 02:42:58 PM
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on June 23, 2018, 04:41:44 PM
Remember those word games where you had to go from the start word to the finish word, changing one letter at a time in as many lines as there are letters with each of the middle three words being genuine?

Ok, go from TRUMP to CRASS in five lines..

A big clue, word four means, according to the Urban Dictionary:

Quote
not being able to grasp the crap someone is talking

(The key words being "grasp" and "crap".)


Have fun! But no cheating.


Spoiler: ShowHide
TRUMP - a crass person
CRUMP - a sound many would like associated with Trump
CRAMP - a pain
CRASP - crap that is difficult to grasp
CRASS - showing no intelligence or sensitivity


Excuse
OK, all the letters are supposed to change as well, but then the last word becomes CLASP - something few sensible people want to do with Trump. Except, maybe, by the throat or dangley bits.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: joeactor on June 25, 2018, 02:15:12 PM
I found some interesting historical events from today... Thought you'd like a peek:

June 25th has unexpected connections in history. From barbed wire to the Diary of Anne Frank, to our politics today.

http://www.joesdump.com/2018/06/25/june-25th-connections/ (http://www.joesdump.com/2018/06/25/june-25th-connections/)
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Harmonie on June 27, 2018, 11:20:30 PM
Supreme Court justice Kennedy is retiring, which leaves an opening for Trump to appoint another Religious Right nutjob which would officially turn the court to their side.

All of this because of the Republicans throwing their temper tantrum and delaying Obama's ability to appoint the last Supreme Court Justice, then Trump's sham 'election' to President. This is all a sham. And now we're going to pay big time.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on June 28, 2018, 09:01:42 AM
Supreme Court justice Kennedy is retiring, which leaves an opening for Trump to appoint another Religious Right nutjob which would officially turn the court to their side.

All of this because of the Republicans throwing their temper tantrum and delaying Obama's ability to appoint the last Supreme Court Justice, then Trump's sham 'election' to President. This is all a sham. And now we're going to pay big time.

It is so, so wrong that the political head of any country gets to appoint the senior judges, or any judges. There is no truly safe way to choose such people but peer selection has to be better than political. But, even then, they should never have an absolute tenure, there should be a democratic way to unseat them.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Icarus on June 28, 2018, 08:44:37 PM
When the prez appoints a supreme the appointee has to be confirmed by our senate.   BFD.  In this case Trump will almost surely choose a right winger nutter and the republican senate will approve.  There goes Roe vs Wade and no telling how many other rulings that an unbalanced court might modify.

Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Recusant on June 29, 2018, 10:19:46 PM
When the prez appoints a supreme the appointee has to be confirmed by our senate.   BFD.  In this case Trump will almost surely choose a right winger nutter and the republican senate will approve.  There goes Roe vs Wade and no telling how many other rulings that an unbalanced court might modify.

The Republican party subverted the system by blocking consideration of Obama's nominee to fill what was Scalia's seat. I think that their weaponized lack of respect for democratic principles will have a long-term negative effect on the country--Trump is only one symptom of this.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on July 05, 2018, 09:07:00 PM
Sadiq Khan, the Mayor of London, has granted permission for protesters to fly a large balloon of Trump dressed as a diaper wearing baby during his proposed visit. 13th July - not long to wait.

https://news.sky.com/story/trump-angry-baby-blimp-gets-green-light-to-fly-over-london-during-presidents-visit-11426665
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: joeactor on July 05, 2018, 09:16:07 PM
Sadiq Khan, the Mayor of London, has granted permission for protesters to fly a large balloon of Trump dressed as a diaper wearing baby during his proposed visit. 13th July - not long to wait.

https://news.sky.com/story/trump-angry-baby-blimp-gets-green-light-to-fly-over-london-during-presidents-visit-11426665

Thanks London!

In other news, Scott Pruit just resigned.  I wonder when he's gonna repay all the money he stole. Or make the water, air and food supply safe again. Maybe I'm asking too much...
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Recusant on July 05, 2018, 09:50:21 PM
He's just freed himself up to take over as Attorney General (https://newsok.com/article/5600275/pruitt-directly-asked-trump-to-replace-sessions-with-him).   :eyebrow:
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Icarus on July 06, 2018, 01:40:55 AM
Pruitt was more than likely faced with a decision: Resign or be fired.  Waaaay too much flak has been generated because of his abuses of the office, not to mention his ignorance or deliberate rejection of how the atmosphere actually works.  Trump was in a bind, he had to issue an ultimatum to the EPA boss.

It will be a matter of interest to see who Trump next appoints to that post.
Title: Re: Duke of Bullshit: "The" Donald
Post by: Dave on July 06, 2018, 04:03:42 AM
The epistolary  epitome of toadiness?

Pruit's resignation letter: