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General => Science => Topic started by: Truthseeker on March 30, 2012, 02:00:20 PM

Title: Free Will - Sam Harris
Post by: Truthseeker on March 30, 2012, 02:00:20 PM
Cognizant that I have exalted Sam Harris to damn near hero status, I none-the-less find myself yet again unabashedly promulgating his work.  Certainly I am not the only one on this board to view the following video.  I found it quite compelling:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCofmZlC72g
Title: Re: Free Will - Sam Harris
Post by: DeterminedJuliet on March 30, 2012, 08:44:21 PM
I haven't really examined free will closely before, so it was very interesting. I wasn't intending to, but I just sat down and watched the whole thing!
I like his style, he reminds me of one of my old philosophy profs  :)
Title: Re: Free Will - Sam Harris
Post by: squidfetish on March 31, 2012, 03:56:41 PM
Quote from: Truthseeker on March 30, 2012, 02:00:20 PM
Cognizant that I have exalted Sam Harris to damn near hero status, I none-the-less find myself yet again unabashedly promulgating his work.  Certainly I am not the only one on this board to view the following video.  I found it quite compelling:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCofmZlC72g

Whoa.. just now ordered the book.  Many thanks for the heads-up!  ;D
Title: Re: Free Will - Sam Harris
Post by: Truthseeker on March 31, 2012, 10:26:23 PM
Not as humorous, but could be the Atheists' Ben Stiller.  No?
Title: Re: Free Will - Sam Harris
Post by: Tank on March 31, 2012, 10:29:17 PM
Quote from: Truthseeker on March 31, 2012, 10:26:23 PM
Not as humorous, but could be the Atheists' Ben Stiller.  No?
:D :D :D
Title: Re: Free Will - Sam Harris
Post by: Crocoduck on April 01, 2012, 08:01:56 AM
I can't respect a man who wears a suit without a tie.
Title: Re: Free Will - Sam Harris
Post by: Tank on April 01, 2012, 10:06:51 AM
Quote from: Crocoduck on April 01, 2012, 08:01:56 AM
I can't respect a man who wears a suit without a tie.
It does look odd. Sort of half dressed.
Title: Re: Free Will - Sam Harris
Post by: Crocoduck on April 06, 2012, 10:39:55 PM
Theres a post on Sam's blog that is worth reading if you watched the video.

Free Will and "Free Will" How my view differs from Daniel Dennett's (http://www.samharris.org/blog/item/free-will-and-free-will)
Title: Re: Free Will - Sam Harris
Post by: NatsuTerran on April 10, 2012, 10:24:23 PM
That was a great video, as well as the one titled "Who says science has nothing to say about morality?" which I find to be closely related. I didn't know of Sam Harris before but he is immediately my favorite public atheist now. I really don't care much about religion because I find it to be harmless. It is a side-characteristic of religion: the notion of free will on agents, which lead to most moral dilemmas I find repugnant.

But it amazes me how much I think like Sam Harris as is. Everything he says is essentially what I would say in these talks. One thing that always infuriates me is how to convey a message of determinism without confusing people. It really boggles my mind because some people just have the weirdest ideas of free will and determinism. And they just can't seem to understand the logic of fore-knowledge, let alone the evidence for it.

I have been a hard determinist for as long as I can remember, even as a child. It was just an intuitive feeling then, but I knew something was wrong with playing the "blame game." I actually am starting to think different people are genetically predisposed towards comprehension of things like the illusion of control, but I can't prove that.

Anyways, it's extremely refreshing to finally hear a perspective that is identical to mine, thanks for sharing.