It's been creating a lot of buzz the last few days, and it's already over 10,000,000 views.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IAhDGYlpqY&feature=related
The Amazing Atheist responded to it, and I basically agree with him, especially the Coke analogy: (NSFW)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=yBo7Z_abiLE
What I really don't understand is at 3:10, the poet tries to say that religion and Christianity are completely different, because "religion is man searching for God, and Christianity is God searching for man." I really don't get how he can say that Christianity is not a religion, or that Christians are not searching for God.
Still though, you better arm yourselves, because barrages of this guy's supporters are coming.
I like the part of the rebuttal where The Amazing Atheist says "What have you subtracted from Religion to equal Jesus? Religion - WHAT = Jesus?!"
EDIT: P.S. When I was a Christian, I would have eaten this shit up. I can see why it's so popular.
Quote from: Thunder Road on January 15, 2012, 04:15:18 AM
The Amazing Atheist responded to it, and I basically agree with him, especially the Coke analogy
As an ignostic, I found that example to be particularly amusing. :D
And seconding what DeterminedJuliet about him not elaborating more on what he means by 'religion'. Makes it just a bit too convenient for people to see as 'religion' what they don't like about their own!
Loved the poem. He's almost there. If he replaced Jesus with 'Myself' and started to take responsibility for all that he thinks and does, he'd be a truly great example of a human being. I'd love to have a beer with him.
TheAmazingAtheist, didn't watch it all, don't really care what he has to say. He's an arrogant arsehole who seriously likes the sound of his own yelling. Couldn't take him seriously. I think 100/200 years ago he's the sort of person that would have been a bible basher himself; a classic preacher man.
Thanks for posting those Thunder Road they were really interesting.
Quote"religion is man searching for God, and Christianity is God searching for man."
Another example of Christian Superiority Complex.
How exactly does god exist without religion? That makes no sense to me.
It's like eating cereal without a bowl or milk.
Or drinking coffee without a cup. Just pour it into my cupped palms. XD
Quote from: Tank on January 15, 2012, 09:26:25 AM
TheAmazingAtheist, didn't watch it all, don't really care what he has to say. He's an arrogant arsehole who seriously likes the sound of his own yelling. Couldn't take him seriously. I think 100/200 years ago he's the sort of person that would have been a bible basher himself; a classic preacher man.
Thanks for posting those Thunder Road they were really interesting.
Yeah I'm not a regular follower of the AA, but his rebuttal came up on somebody's blog so I watched it. I think he has some serious points, but it's too cluttered with "fuck this" and whatnot to sound realistic. Shame.
Quote from: Sweetdeath on January 15, 2012, 05:44:54 PM
How exactly does god exist without religion? That makes no sense to me.
It's like eating cereal without a bowl or milk.
Or drinking coffee without a cup. Just pour it into my cupped palms. XD
I do this all the time... ???
Yeah, the cereal analogy sucked. I should change it to hot oatmeal. XD
Quote from: Thunder Road on January 15, 2012, 06:50:15 PM
Quote from: Tank on January 15, 2012, 09:26:25 AM
TheAmazingAtheist, didn't watch it all, don't really care what he has to say. He's an arrogant arsehole who seriously likes the sound of his own yelling. Couldn't take him seriously. I think 100/200 years ago he's the sort of person that would have been a bible basher himself; a classic preacher man.
Thanks for posting those Thunder Road they were really interesting.
Yeah I'm not a regular follower of the AA, but his rebuttal came up on somebody's blog so I watched it. I think he has some serious points, but it's too cluttered with "fuck this" and whatnot to sound realistic. Shame.
He reminds me of the douchey guys I used to date. I don't mind watching him, it's kind of entertaining.
The Catholic rebuttal:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ru_tC4fv6FE
Rather well done, I have to say. And from a logic standpoint, I agree with it more than the the original. Except for that part about his illogical words "fueling atheist opinions". There aren't really atheist opinions, there's just atheism - as a belief.
Interesting nonetheless.
I actaully preffered GrapplingIgnorance's and meridianfrost's answers (they use rhymes too!):
RE: I Hate Religion But I Love Jesus - GrappalingIgnorance (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scEu9vjsz2o&feature=relmfu)
RE: I Hate Religion But I Love Jesus - meridianfrost (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scEu9vjsz2o&feature=relmfu)
I did watch TheAmazingAtheists response too, and I think he did a good job all in all, altough I also agree with Tank about him liking his own voice too much...
finally got around to watching this video, what a piece of crap. Can't believe he's had so many hits for spouting such drivel. It's like he doesn't realise that the New Testament is a product of Christianity, and Christianity is a religion. And definining 'God' as the father of Jesus, and Jesus as the son of 'God' who suffered and died for your sins is a Christian religious doctrine.
Apart from that, all he seems to be saying just looks like classic Protestantism to me, giving primacy to scripture above the Church. He's a muppet.
Quote from: Too Few Lions on January 24, 2012, 05:49:32 PM
finally got around to watching this video, what a piece of crap. Can't believe he's had so many hits for spouting such drivel. It's like he doesn't realise that the New Testament is a product of Christianity, and Christianity is a religion. And definining 'God' as the father of Jesus, and Jesus as the son of 'God' who suffered and died for your sins is a Christian religious doctrine.
Apart from that, all he seems to be saying just looks like classic Protestantism to me, giving primacy to scripture above the Church. He's a muppet.
I find a lot of Christaholics do try to separate Jesus out of the Bible when people point out the fallacious nature of the Bible, but they seem to fail in the realization that Jesus only existed
in the Bible and nowhere else.
>_>
I know that a common rebuttal to that statement is that a great number of historians believe that Christ existed.
But let's just apply the scientific method to history writing and see how much history is written differently <_<
Quote from: superfes on January 24, 2012, 06:57:10 PM
Quote from: Too Few Lions on January 24, 2012, 05:49:32 PM
finally got around to watching this video, what a piece of crap. Can't believe he's had so many hits for spouting such drivel. It's like he doesn't realise that the New Testament is a product of Christianity, and Christianity is a religion. And definining 'God' as the father of Jesus, and Jesus as the son of 'God' who suffered and died for your sins is a Christian religious doctrine.
Apart from that, all he seems to be saying just looks like classic Protestantism to me, giving primacy to scripture above the Church. He's a muppet.
I know that a common rebuttal to that statement is that a great number of historians believe that Christ existed.
He just had a different name, like how Imhotep existed but was really named Im-hotep... oh wait.