I was just completely flabbergasted by this: remains of troops dumped in landfill (http://www.kansascity.com/2011/12/07/3307862/report-remains-of-274-troops-dumped.html)
What caught my eye most is that this has been done before and apparently everyone was OK with it until they found out it was being done more often than they knew.
And what is going on with VA?
How the hell is that legal!
I don't really care what's done with my remains.
Skimp on the dead and use $ saved to keep others alive.
Offending families is oafish though.
Isn't it annoying when you make a typo in a thread title, it just sits there out of reach, taunting you for your clumsiness.
Quote from: The Magic Pudding on December 09, 2011, 02:45:22 AM
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Isn't it annoying when you make a typo in a thread title, it just sits there out of reach, taunting you for your clumsiness.
Although "cremains" suggests "cremation", which is at least something like the subject.
Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on December 09, 2011, 02:56:25 AM
Quote from: The Magic Pudding on December 09, 2011, 02:45:22 AM
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Isn't it annoying when you make a typo in a thread title, it just sits there out of reach, taunting you for your clumsiness.
Although "cremains" suggests "cremation", which is at least something like the subject.
Isn't it "troups" that's wrong? "Cremains" is what the mortuary industry actually calls cremated remains. Anyway, yes, it's very annoying but I still have the comfort of falling back on the sick, on meds excuse.
While I don't care what happens to my body after I die, I think those who have given their lives in the commission of their duties should at least be inurned at a veterans cemetery rather than ending up in a landfill. It would seem to be the most respectful thing to do, the least common denominator, for a situation filled with doubt.
Common sense isn't so common.
What happens to the remains themselves is pretty much irrelevent, but the impact on the surviving relatives of this sort of behaviour is just unacceptable.
Why the hell use a landfill? They could have picked a nice peaceful graveyard and buried them there with a little ceremony and a priest to say a prayer, to comfort those who value such things. Maybe a few troops firing a volley. Very little trouble or expense, and everybody would have been happy.
It's always amazing to me how many layers of bureaucracy have to be dug through to get answers to simple questions anytime you deal with the government.
Yeah, it's the disrespect of those dead and the families of the dead that bugs me. Sure, the dead don't care, but if asked, while alive, I'm sure most of them wouldn't say, "Sure, toss my ashes in some dumb-ass landfill!"
Quote from: BooksCatsEtc on December 09, 2011, 03:23:30 AM
Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on December 09, 2011, 02:56:25 AM
Quote from: The Magic Pudding on December 09, 2011, 02:45:22 AM
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Isn't it annoying when you make a typo in a thread title, it just sits there out of reach, taunting you for your clumsiness.
Although "cremains" suggests "cremation", which is at least something like the subject.
Isn't it "troups" that's wrong? "Cremains" is what the mortuary industry actually calls cremated remains.
You are correct. I have learned something, and I missed "troups."
All moral issues aside, wouldn't something like this be a bio hazard? I know they said something about tossing small parts in the landfill, but I'm not sure if they burned them first. Personally, I wouldn't want to know that I was potentially breathing in a dead person. :/
Quote from: Budhorse4 on December 09, 2011, 08:31:42 PM
All moral issues aside, wouldn't something like this be a bio hazard? I know they said something about tossing small parts in the landfill, but I'm not sure if they burned them first. Personally, I wouldn't want to know that I was potentially breathing in a dead person. :/
I thought I remembered reading that these were cremated unidentifed bits and pieces of dead soldiers, and I assume the ashes are in a container, but still . . . a landfill? Even if they don't know who the parts belonged to, why not use a military cemetary for this? I don't like thinking of the feelings of parents, told their son or daughter died in combat and sorry, no body left for them to bury, who then read about this.