I was disappointed at how the President of Florida atheist humanist assoc. did on the radio debate with ShockofGod
98.3 people surveyed said ShockofGod (he's an ex-atheist now Christian) won the debate.
You can hear the debate at http:// www(dot) shockawenow (dot)net in the podcast/music area
The atheist down fall (in my opinion) is when he said there is nothing objectively wrong with beastiality on atheism.
ShockofGod destroyed this guy and as an atheist myself...I was disappointed in the debate. You can hear the entire 1 hour fiasco and in the future I suggest nobody debate shockofGod unless you are skilled. I disagree with shockofgod totally but he ripped that atheist a new one big time.
EDIT: As this member came online, spammed and left I have disabled the link so you can visit if you like but google won't record the link. - Tank
I don't even bother with ShockOfGod ::)
I don't know who shockofgod is so he can't be that important.
Anyway if all the Florida Humanist President said was that atheist doesn't mean someone is automatically against bestiality then I agree...there is no actual moral code embedded with being an atheist. Though I would say that it can be easily argued that bestiality is not good (as the animal can't provide consent).
Quote from: atheismofropes on October 19, 2011, 11:55:03 PM
in the future I suggest nobody debate shockofGod unless you are skilled.
Oh, BS! SoGgy is a mediocre debater at best. I, for one, would not debate him though. Why? Can't be bothered to.
Destroys? I think filibusters is a more appropriate term. Mickey is surely not a master debater. However, I can't really blame him. He's from South Florida, so I chalk his impatience up to dealing with the horrible traffic down there. Can you really name one instance where "Shock" had a valid point in the debate? The last five minutes of that podcast were reminiscent of listening to Bill O'Reily.
I am a noob myself, so what do I know? However, I'm really suspicious that your first post points to the "destruction" of an atheist in a debate "moderated" by a Christian radio host. Where was the moderation at the end of the show? "Shock" would posit some ridiculous logical fallacy and then chuckle over Mickey's response. Nice.
Quote from: BullyforBronto on October 20, 2011, 03:09:41 AM
However, I'm really suspicious that your first post points to the "destruction" of an atheist in a debate "moderated" by a Christian radio host.
Wouldn't be the first time a Christian pretended to be an atheist just to try to get us to agree on something.
Pathetic. SoG parrots William Lane Craig's standard 5 arguments. He not only presents them in the exact order that Craig uses, but seems to be trying to ape Craig's style of delivery. He adds a few snide asides of his own, but beyond that he might as well have played a recording of Craig's opening arguments from any of his debates.
I stopped listening after shortly after he gave his opening, and I only listened as long as I did to see if he was the complete Craig copycat that he seemed to be. I see no reason to listen to a debate by this bozo, when I can be bored and irked by the actual author of the sophistries he presents as "my opening arguments." (https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rationalskepticism.org%2Fimages%2Fsmilies%2Ficon_yawn2.gif&hash=1c1578d7dc9e400e9cd14a543cea8df03d1f0b72)
One thing I would like to point out: In the first section of the debate, I learned that the title of this thread is incorrect. SoG's opponent is not an atheist; he states clearly in his opening argument that he is an agnostic. That alone leads me to believe that the OP is not what they claim to be. In fact, it would not surprise me to learn that "atheismofropes" is a sock puppet of any of a number of posters who've joined here in the past and used the "I'm an atheist, but..." gambit.
Quote from: Recusant on October 20, 2011, 06:14:01 AM
Pathetic. SoG parrots William Lane Craig's standard 5 arguments.
...So that's where..! I knew there was something fishy here. I hereby withdraw my "mediocre at best" and replace it with "utter crap" statement.
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Quote from: atheismofropes on October 19, 2011, 11:55:03 PM
I was disappointed at how the President of Florida atheist humanist assoc. did on the radio debate with ShockofGod
98.3 people surveyed said ShockofGod (he's an ex-atheist now Christian) won the debate.
You can hear the debate at http://www.shockawenow.net in the podcast/music area
The atheist down fall (in my opinion) is when he said there is nothing objectively wrong with beastiality on atheism.
ShockofGod destroyed this guy and as an atheist myself...I was disappointed in the debate. You can hear the entire 1 hour fiasco and in the future I suggest nobody debate shockofGod unless you are skilled. I disagree with shockofgod totally but he ripped that atheist a new one big time.
It is impossible for any christian to destroy any atheist in a debate because it all goes back to..."you believe in made up sky fairies" and that really is the end of any fecking debate. Ever.
ShockofGod is a Craig parrot. I saw his PowerPoint presentation last sunday, that was supposed to "prove the MADNESS of atheism and evolution". He gotmaybe a little notariaty with the stunt a few months back when he "chellenged" Penn Jillette to a "debate", with Conservapedia as a sponsor for it or something. He does not debate. He winds when you disagree with him. On he bring up "Santa syndrome. Or the goat loving. And his defenition of Atheism is so bizarre no-one understands it, dispite him calling himself "an ex-atheist".
In short: There's a reason why I call this motorcycle riding parrot preacher "Shock the 'Win By Default 101-tactics' ofGod". Won't stop me from going to his chat and debate with some of the mods there :p Well, until Nephi comes along to have his monologues.....
Looks like this guy was a spammer. One visit (4 minutes) and never came back.
...OR a theist who regards his non-argument to be utterly irrefutable.
Quote from: Asmodean on October 27, 2011, 11:20:16 AM
...OR a theist who regards his non-argument to be utterly irrefutable.
Possibly, but I doubt it :)
Quote from: Tank on October 27, 2011, 11:21:38 AM
Quote from: Asmodean on October 27, 2011, 11:20:16 AM
...OR a theist who regards his non-argument to be utterly irrefutable.
Possibly, but I doubt it :)
Guys! Didn't you read his post? He said he was an atheist! ::)
Quote from: DeterminedJuliet on October 27, 2011, 05:21:28 PM
Guys! Didn't you read his post? He said he was an atheist! ::)
Asmodean, he say the OP is a LIAR!!! >:( And a theist. With a space. Not without. With. >:(
I love the way these people will resort to any lie and deception in order to proclaim their eternal truths. ;D
Quote from: OldGit on October 27, 2011, 07:08:59 PM
I love the way these people will resort to any lie and deception in order to proclaim their eternal truths. ;D
Yep!
Quote from: OldGit on October 27, 2011, 07:08:59 PM
I love the way these people will resort to any lie and deception in order to proclaim their eternal truths. ;D
I like my way of putting it better :P
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:o His Noodliness thy LORD the Monster has a buttcrack!
Does that mean that he defecates?! :o
Does that produce holy shit?! :o
This post might even be by shock himself. All of his titles are something similar to "Blahblahblah destroyed by wiser Christian". He is notorious for outrageous quote-mining and claiming to have defeated people he didn't. He is one of the most disgustingly dishonest apologists I have ever encountered.
Quote from: j.woodard24 on November 08, 2011, 09:10:01 PM
This post might even be by shock himself. All of his titles are something similar to "Blahblahblah destroyed by wiser Christian". He is notorious for outrageous quote-mining and claiming to have defeated people he didn't. He is one of the most disgustingly dishonest apologists I have ever encountered.
Have you seen much by him?
Quote from: Tank on November 08, 2011, 09:13:57 PM
Quote from: j.woodard24 on November 08, 2011, 09:10:01 PM
This post might even be by shock himself. All of his titles are something similar to "Blahblahblah destroyed by wiser Christian". He is notorious for outrageous quote-mining and claiming to have defeated people he didn't. He is one of the most disgustingly dishonest apologists I have ever encountered.
Have you seen much by him?
All there is to see his youtube channel (I think his "won" about 53 atheists in 2debates" so far, and made mockery vids about them...), and he does have a website too, though as far as I know, it's mostly quoting anything and everything Craig has said. And then there's the chat. Almost managed to talk to him a couple of times. And apparently he doesn't mind being called "Win By Default 101", since he said that "when I debate atheist I always win". Obviously he missed my meaning.
And let's not forget his on going challenge: Atheists are to provide proof and evidence that Atheism is accurate and correct.
I could go, but i think you get the point... ;D
Anyway the's as much as I know about him. Hmmm, j.woodward24, do you visit shock chat?
QuoteHave you seen much by him?
Yes. I've seen a great many of his videos, made response videos to some, and composed messages for others. Of course, he disables the like bar, disallows response videos, and moderates his comments so it looks like only Christians are posting on his videos. That's one of the things I mean by "dishonest". I'm very familiar with his material, and this post smells just like it.