So while browsing through my lj comm 'wtf inc' I came upon this gem of a video. What is frightening is her sincerity and her seemingly flawless 'logic'.
Behold the video!
HERE! (http://youtu.be/PrI6CG5A2Kk)
Scary, scary stuff.
Time for another flood to wipe these people off the earth.
Whooooosh~!
A friend of mine posted a link on his facebook page to a really hardcore evangelical forum site recently, and for the past week or so I was trolling it. I got banned twice, presumably for being "disrespectful" (I agreed with another member that one of the mods had multiple chins... not sure what I did the second time). Those people would love this girl to death, except that she's black. And she's not wearing a plain dress. And her hair's kinda fancy. Ok, nevermind.. they'd hate her too. Seriously, those people are NUTS.
(Omitted snide play on meaning of "coming.")
I don't see anything particularly exceptional in the video. For nearly two thousand years there have been sincere dunderheads saying the same thing this young woman is saying. Including the part about their god speaking to them personally.
According to her, god created multiple erffs. It is also comforting knowing that her god suffers from Premature Ejaculation as well.
Quote from: ThinkAnarchy on August 22, 2011, 08:21:29 PM
According to her, god created multiple erffs. It is also comforting knowing that her god suffers from Premature Ejaculation as well.
Quickly. Like
NOW.
What I'm wondering is, why the sense of urgency?
If I were a Christian,
and I'd been subjected to so many ridiculous false alarms (the recent rapture debacle comes to mind)
and God is all-forgiving... I think I can finish my damn sandwich and get some light shopping done.
I didn't have enough attention span to listen to whole whole video but did click around to the "related" videos. The crazy is not alone.
From personal experience I can honestly say, crazy is NEVER alone.
Quote from: DaemonWulf on August 23, 2011, 01:16:32 AM
From personal experience I can honestly say, crazy is NEVER alone.
Sometimes it is.
I have invited her to join HAF
Quote from: Tank on August 23, 2011, 09:26:27 AM
I have invited her to join HAF
You didn't tell her that asmodean bites though..? 'Cause that's ruining a surprise :P
Quote from: Asmodean on August 23, 2011, 10:08:57 AM
Quote from: Tank on August 23, 2011, 09:26:27 AM
I have invited her to join HAF
You didn't tell her that asmodean bites though..? 'Cause that's ruining a surprise :P
How bad could a bit from clay be? Apart from damp, cold and drooly?
Quote from: Tank on August 23, 2011, 10:38:10 AMHow bad could a bit from clay be? Apart from damp, cold and drooly?
Ah, but within the drooly part, there is teeth. SHARP ones. ;D <<See?
Quote from: Asmodean on August 23, 2011, 11:21:29 AM
Quote from: Tank on August 23, 2011, 10:38:10 AMHow bad could a bit from clay be? Apart from damp, cold and drooly?
Ah, but within the drooly part, there is teeth. SHARP ones. ;D <<See?
You don't look good in yellow, so here is you're very own version (https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg560.imageshack.us%2Fimg560%2F4559%2Fasmo.gif&hash=7558054aa693387c18569669e2460383c4d83deb)
Quote from: Tank on August 23, 2011, 12:48:23 PM
Quote from: Asmodean on August 23, 2011, 11:21:29 AM
Quote from: Tank on August 23, 2011, 10:38:10 AMHow bad could a bit from clay be? Apart from damp, cold and drooly?
Ah, but within the drooly part, there is teeth. SHARP ones. ;D <<See?
You don't look good in yellow, so here is you're very own version (https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg560.imageshack.us%2Fimg560%2F4559%2Fasmo.gif&hash=7558054aa693387c18569669e2460383c4d83deb)
Whitney..?
Would you mind awfully adding Asmo's personal smiley to the list? (https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg560.imageshack.us%2Fimg560%2F4559%2Fasmo.gif&hash=7558054aa693387c18569669e2460383c4d83deb)
Quote from: Asmodean on August 23, 2011, 12:52:50 PM
Quote from: Tank on August 23, 2011, 12:48:23 PM
Quote from: Asmodean on August 23, 2011, 11:21:29 AM
Quote from: Tank on August 23, 2011, 10:38:10 AMHow bad could a bit from clay be? Apart from damp, cold and drooly?
Ah, but within the drooly part, there is teeth. SHARP ones. ;D <<See?
You don't look good in yellow, so here is you're very own version (https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg560.imageshack.us%2Fimg560%2F4559%2Fasmo.gif&hash=7558054aa693387c18569669e2460383c4d83deb)
Whitney..?
Would you mind awfully adding Asmo's personal smiley to the list? (https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg560.imageshack.us%2Fimg560%2F4559%2Fasmo.gif&hash=7558054aa693387c18569669e2460383c4d83deb)
Until (if) Whitney does that, feel free to simply use the image link to my version.
Quote from: Tank on August 23, 2011, 01:15:36 PMUntil (if) Whitney does that, feel free to simply use the image link to my version.
Thanks. Already saved me a copy of the link
(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F24.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_lkgnvauVDH1qzchiio1_500.png&hash=3c51be8841daa4ba90394cf1a0ceb229cfceb53a)
You're a smiley, Asmodean! :D
I am having an interesting discussion with Jasmin's friends on facebook.
I had serious difficulty interpreting this through her accent, slurring, mumbling and probable drunkenness. It's like being in a bar next to some poor, friendless stranger who you can't get away from, and all you can do is nod and agree and hope that if you drink enough you'll be able to enjoy their company more.
Quote from: Tank on August 23, 2011, 10:29:05 PM
I am having an interesting discussion with Jasmin's friends on facebook.
How is that coming along?
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God is coming quickly!
That's what she said!
Quote from: DaemonWulf on August 23, 2011, 06:37:12 PM
Quote from: Asmodean on August 23, 2011, 09:25:06 AM
Quote from: DaemonWulf on August 23, 2011, 01:16:32 AM
From personal experience I can honestly say, crazy is NEVER alone.
Sometimes it is.
NEVER!
...In terms of "sanity is just a weird form of madness", you are corret. In a more general sense, however, you are not.
No, I'm absolutely correct; I've never experienced anyone coming up with a completely ridiculous idea without then having some support afterward... especially if it's an idea I disagree with. Not to mention I never have a crazy idea of my own without someone jumping in to either encourage it (if it'll get me hurt) or bitch about it (if I could've actually pulled it off).
Quote from: DaemonWulf on August 24, 2011, 04:23:12 AM
No, I'm absolutely correct; I've never experienced anyone coming up with a completely ridiculous idea without then having some support afterward... especially if it's an idea I disagree with. Not to mention I never have a crazy idea of my own without someone jumping in to either encourage it (if it'll get me hurt) or bitch about it (if I could've actually pulled it off).
Different problem. Ridiculous is not necessarilly synonimous with crazy.
Maybe God should think about baseball.
Quote from: ThinkAnarchy on August 24, 2011, 12:34:19 AM
Quote from: Tank on August 23, 2011, 10:29:05 PM
I am having an interesting discussion with Jasmin's friends on facebook.
How is that coming along?
Well I left it last night with a very earnest lady sort of worrying about me. I haven't been there yet today but I'll keep you posted.
Quote from: Tank on August 24, 2011, 09:14:49 AM
Quote from: ThinkAnarchy on August 24, 2011, 12:34:19 AM
Quote from: Tank on August 23, 2011, 10:29:05 PM
I am having an interesting discussion with Jasmin's friends on facebook.
How is that coming along?
Well I left it last night with a very earnest lady sort of worrying about me. I haven't been there yet today but I'll keep you posted.
It would appear that Jasmine has blocked me on facebook as I can no longer access the discussion page :-[
Quote from: Tank on August 24, 2011, 07:18:02 PM
Quote from: Tank on August 24, 2011, 09:14:49 AM
Quote from: ThinkAnarchy on August 24, 2011, 12:34:19 AM
Quote from: Tank on August 23, 2011, 10:29:05 PM
I am having an interesting discussion with Jasmin's friends on facebook.
How is that coming along?
Well I left it last night with a very earnest lady sort of worrying about me. I haven't been there yet today but I'll keep you posted.
It would appear that Jasmine has blocked me on facebook as I can no longer access the discussion page :-[
Can you post a link? I've become curious to see the outragous discussion that ultimately led to you being blocked.
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on August 24, 2011, 07:21:33 PM
Quote from: Tank on August 24, 2011, 07:18:02 PM
Quote from: Tank on August 24, 2011, 09:14:49 AM
Quote from: ThinkAnarchy on August 24, 2011, 12:34:19 AM
Quote from: Tank on August 23, 2011, 10:29:05 PM
I am having an interesting discussion with Jasmin's friends on facebook.
How is that coming along?
Well I left it last night with a very earnest lady sort of worrying about me. I haven't been there yet today but I'll keep you posted.
It would appear that Jasmine has blocked me on facebook as I can no longer access the discussion page :-[
Can you post a link? I've become curious to see the outragous discussion that ultimately led to you being blocked.
Did you post more than one comment, I think I found the post you are talking about.
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on August 24, 2011, 07:21:33 PM
Quote from: Tank on August 24, 2011, 07:18:02 PM
Quote from: Tank on August 24, 2011, 09:14:49 AM
Quote from: ThinkAnarchy on August 24, 2011, 12:34:19 AM
Quote from: Tank on August 23, 2011, 10:29:05 PM
I am having an interesting discussion with Jasmin's friends on facebook.
How is that coming along?
Well I left it last night with a very earnest lady sort of worrying about me. I haven't been there yet today but I'll keep you posted.
It would appear that Jasmine has blocked me on facebook as I can no longer access the discussion page :-[
Can you post a link? I've become curious to see the outragous discussion that ultimately led to you being blocked.
This is the link http://www.facebook.com/notes/jasmine-thomas/you-need-medical-help/207031289352426 but I doubt you will be able to access it.
Quote from: ThinkAnarchy on August 24, 2011, 07:27:41 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on August 24, 2011, 07:21:33 PM
Quote from: Tank on August 24, 2011, 07:18:02 PM
Quote from: Tank on August 24, 2011, 09:14:49 AM
Quote from: ThinkAnarchy on August 24, 2011, 12:34:19 AM
Quote from: Tank on August 23, 2011, 10:29:05 PM
I am having an interesting discussion with Jasmin's friends on facebook.
How is that coming along?
Well I left it last night with a very earnest lady sort of worrying about me. I haven't been there yet today but I'll keep you posted.
It would appear that Jasmine has blocked me on facebook as I can no longer access the discussion page :-[
Can you post a link? I've become curious to see the outragous discussion that ultimately led to you being blocked.
Did you post more than one comment, I think I found the post you are talking about.
Half a dozen of so.
Quote from: Tank on August 24, 2011, 07:28:30 PM
Quote from: ThinkAnarchy on August 24, 2011, 07:27:41 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on August 24, 2011, 07:21:33 PM
Quote from: Tank on August 24, 2011, 07:18:02 PM
Quote from: Tank on August 24, 2011, 09:14:49 AM
Quote from: ThinkAnarchy on August 24, 2011, 12:34:19 AM
Quote from: Tank on August 23, 2011, 10:29:05 PM
I am having an interesting discussion with Jasmin's friends on facebook.
How is that coming along?
Well I left it last night with a very earnest lady sort of worrying about me. I haven't been there yet today but I'll keep you posted.
It would appear that Jasmine has blocked me on facebook as I can no longer access the discussion page :-[
Can you post a link? I've become curious to see the outragous discussion that ultimately led to you being blocked.
Did you post more than one comment, I think I found the post you are talking about.
Half a dozen of so.
I'm in to the link you provided. She must have simply blocked you. :'(
Quote from: ThinkAnarchy on August 24, 2011, 07:29:27 PM
I'm in to the link you provided. She must have simply blocked you. :'(
Looks like it.
Quote from: Tank on August 24, 2011, 07:32:32 PM
Quote from: ThinkAnarchy on August 24, 2011, 07:29:27 PM
I'm in to the link you provided. She must have simply blocked you. :'(
Looks like it.
Well I can only see the one note about the schizophrenic comment on youtube. I can't view anymore and don't want to subscribe or anything.
Just clicked on said link. Ugh, what a crazy bitch.
i told u
Quote from: Tank on August 24, 2011, 07:27:54 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on August 24, 2011, 07:21:33 PM
Quote from: Tank on August 24, 2011, 07:18:02 PM
Quote from: Tank on August 24, 2011, 09:14:49 AM
Quote from: ThinkAnarchy on August 24, 2011, 12:34:19 AM
Quote from: Tank on August 23, 2011, 10:29:05 PM
I am having an interesting discussion with Jasmin's friends on facebook.
How is that coming along?
Well I left it last night with a very earnest lady sort of worrying about me. I haven't been there yet today but I'll keep you posted.
It would appear that Jasmine has blocked me on facebook as I can no longer access the discussion page :-[
Can you post a link? I've become curious to see the outragous discussion that ultimately led to you being blocked.
This is the link http://www.facebook.com/notes/jasmine-thomas/you-need-medical-help/207031289352426 but I doubt you will be able to access it.
I was able to access it, but I couldn't stand the fundies. I guess even the mere mention of the fact that you're an atheist would've eventually have gotten you blocked, even if you didn't post anything that would be considered even remotely outrageous.
I just found this reply on my YouTube message system, feel free to make your own mind up.
QuoteHey
I blocked you from my Facebook..... you're not going to continue with that conversation tomorrow on my Facebook... Are you lonely or something, because I notice that you only have videos of your dogs? Anyway thing is, where do you find yourself? Are you happy? Is there something missing in your life? If you announce your happy.. It's a superficial happy. See I don't need to argue about my faith.. It is my job to only tell you. It is Gods job to convict your heart, which will lead you to repentance, and later you will be saved. I know no greater truth in my life than Jesus Christ. Sure you said rude things... but I don't care the love of God is perfected me. If I wanted I can bring up bible scriptures and say you atheists are going to hell yaddy yadda blah blah blah...But instead I offer my hand, and welcome you to go and cling to God whose deity is love. So much so... that he sent his only begotten son to die for our sins. Since the fall of man came... the rest of the world was born into sin. All we did was sin. God is Holy so is Heaven and were a filthy people. So God sent His Son to the earth to show us how we ought to live. Jesus died for our sins so that He may pay the price of every filthy thing we did and going to do. In this way we can come boldly before God and pray to Him. To announce Him as savior, you must be saved. Being saved is a supernatural work of the Holy Spirit. It is when Jesus replaces your wicked heart with a heart of flesh that is for Him. In doing so... you walk in his piece.. Love... and security. Now I have told you.. and you will be in my prayers. When you die or stand before God in judgement... you cannot say "I never knew what you did for me on the cross", because I have told you. It would have been better for you if you have never known. You pay a price for not obey a loving, caring, and perfect God. You see how things don't make since here.
God bless you
-Jasmine
I started copying because I found something funny, but than decided against it. I would have had to quote 15 different things in that response. She is the only person I ever hoped 4chan would discover.
QuoteIf you announce your happy.. It's a superficial happy.
There's just no winning for losing with some folks.
Quote from: BooksCatsEtc on September 04, 2011, 03:50:06 AM
QuoteIf you announce your happy.. It's a superficial happy.
There's just no winning for losing with some folks.
I know. I think that was the one line that stuck out like a saw thumb. She is so confident in her delusional world view that she considers herself a mind reader!
Quote from: Tank on September 04, 2011, 07:20:57 AM
Quote from: BooksCatsEtc on September 04, 2011, 03:50:06 AM
QuoteIf you announce your happy.. It's a superficial happy.
There's just no winning for losing with some folks.
I know. I think that was the one line that stuck out like a saw thumb. She is so confident in her delusional world view that she considers herself a mind reader!
For some reason I don't find that as distressing as someone who doesn't consider themselves a mind reader, and yet tells everyone with all the confidence in the world what other people are thinking. With this girl, you already know that something's a bit wrong and so treat her with some distance, but with those 'mind readers' of my example, you aren't as careful when listening to them.
Quote from: Tank on September 04, 2011, 07:20:57 AM
Quote from: BooksCatsEtc on September 04, 2011, 03:50:06 AM
QuoteIf you announce your happy.. It's a superficial happy.
There's just no winning for losing with some folks.
I know. I think that was the one line that stuck out like a saw thumb. She is so confident in her delusional world view that she considers herself a mind reader!
Either mind reading or an assumption of facts so unshakeable that reality will be twisted in any way to support it. Now that's something scary.
Quote from: BooksCatsEtc on September 04, 2011, 08:13:10 AM
Quote from: Tank on September 04, 2011, 07:20:57 AM
Quote from: BooksCatsEtc on September 04, 2011, 03:50:06 AM
QuoteIf you announce your happy.. It's a superficial happy.
There's just no winning for losing with some folks.
I know. I think that was the one line that stuck out like a saw thumb. She is so confident in her delusional world view that she considers herself a mind reader!
Either mind reading or an assumption of facts so unshakeable that reality will be twisted in any way to support it. Now that's something scary.
Aye. The person has created an unfalsiable scenario; no matter how one answers the questions, they will be wrong. This kind of closed logic is dangerous. If you say you're living a happy, fulfilling life without their god, then it's superficial and you need their god. If you're not happy or fulfilled, then you need their god. There is likely no way to have a reasonable conversation with this person about happiness.
QuoteSure you said rude things... but I don't care the love of God is perfected me.
Apparently, grammar is immune to God's perfecting abilities. ::)
I am a Christian and from my perspective there are a couple of things I would say about the topic expressed in the video.
The bible says that no one knows when Jesus is coming back. No one except God the Father. The only reason some Christians say that it will be soon is because there are some signs that are supposed to take place before the end and since we are seeing some of these things then it could happen any day now. If the bible is true then He may be coming soon, but we really don't know for sure.
I think I also noticed a reply that said something about as Christians we do not need to argue our faith, but simply tell people to repent. This is not true. The bible says that we are to be able to defend what we say in an intelligible manner to those who believe differently. (1 Peter 3:15 for example.) The Apostle Paul gave reasons and evidence for people to believe. You do not have to check your brains at the door of the church.
Religious groups have been seeing the "signs" of the impending end of the world for thousands of years. "The Pursuit of the Millenium" by Norman Cohn is a good historical analysis of this; there is nothing unique about thinking the end is nigh.
Prophecies are always based on riddles and vague language, which are always very open to interpretation, much like the sort of language used in horoscopes.
There already is an expectation that it will become true so it's interpretated in a way that serves beliefs. For instance, if you take the same horoscope for just one sun sign and give to plenty of people born during different months of the year, most will identify with something and take that horoscope to be meaningful, if they believe in astrology. Remove the expectation by not making which horoscopes are for which sun sign clear. Very good astrologers will get practically everyone identifying themselves with practically every horoscope.
Not to mention there are self-fulfilling prophecies, where people actively try to make the prophecies come true, based on something that was written a long time ago.
What are you saying? Nostrodamus totally predicted all disasters ever. XDD
Quote from: Sweetdeath on September 08, 2011, 05:26:48 PM
What are you saying? Nostrodamus totally predicted all disasters ever. XDD
I admit I haven't really read his prophecies in greater detail, but I'm guessing beforehand that it's based much more on riddles than on generalization.
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on September 08, 2011, 05:37:30 PM
Quote from: Sweetdeath on September 08, 2011, 05:26:48 PM
What are you saying? Nostrodamus totally predicted all disasters ever. XDD
I admit I haven't really read his prophecies in greater detail, but I'm guessing beforehand that it's based much more on riddles than on generalization.
Reading them in greater detail will only result in them being less accurate, you must read them in less detail. They are four lines each (quatrains), but most "predictions" don't match all four lines, so they just ignore the other ones.
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on September 08, 2011, 05:37:30 PM
Quote from: Sweetdeath on September 08, 2011, 05:26:48 PM
What are you saying? Nostrodamus totally predicted all disasters ever. XDD
I admit I haven't really read his prophecies in greater detail, but I'm guessing beforehand that it's based much more on riddles than on generalization.
I was joking, because like Davin said, he is as vauge as any so called prophet.
They are all jokes, really.