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Religion => Religion => Topic started by: Ninja Donkey on August 24, 2007, 01:39:12 PM

Title: Mother Teresa was an Atheist!
Post by: Ninja Donkey on August 24, 2007, 01:39:12 PM
Check out this article:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2002/11/29/wteres29.xml

I was watching the news last night and they also talked about this, and mentioned there would be a related article in an upcoming TIME magazine.

I think this is fascinating, that the woman who was held in such high regard would have a 50-year long crisis of faith.  This article doesn't touch on some of the in-depth stuff as much, but I figured it would be a good starter article.  I'll post more articles as I find them around this here inter-web.
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Post by: Tom62 on August 24, 2007, 04:17:48 PM
For me Mother Theresa was a very evil person, a deeply unpleasant, immoral being. She was a conservative catholic, who was not interested in curing children but to "save" their souls. She also liked to see children suffering, because pain would bring them closer to God. An English nurse actually left after Mother Teresa had refused to help a child who would certainly have lived had he had a course of antibiotics. Her response was that it was irrelevant because he was going to meet God anyway! When she herself became ill, she took herself straight to the best heart specialist in New York. Her order received lots of money which didn't go to the carecenters (these are extremely primitive, rudimentary, unscientific, miles behind any modern conception of what medical science is supposed to do), but was used for the greater glory of her order and the building of dogmatic, religious institutions.
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Post by: tigerlily46514 on August 24, 2007, 05:22:28 PM
wow- are you kidding me!  i had no idea......dang, even I used to admire her, but i guess i really didn't know much about her....

what a shocker.....
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Post by: MommaSquid on August 24, 2007, 06:29:02 PM
Quotewow- are you kidding me! i had no idea......


Yes, tigerlily, Tom62 speaks the truth.  (He and I must have seen the same TV show about MT.)  She wasn't a very good person by my standards.
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Post by: Tom62 on August 24, 2007, 07:12:05 PM
I've seen the documentary about her a long time ago and stubled as well on some other sources of information about her. She was a good friend of the Duvaliers (dictator of Haiti) and greatly admired the albanian dictator Enver Hoxa.

Here follows an extract from an Indian newspaper, how Mother Theresa truly showed her christian love for her patients:

The legend of her Homes for the Dying has moved the world to tears. Reality, however, is scandalous: In the overcrowded and primitive little homes, many patients have to share a bed with others. Though there are many suffering from tuberculosis, AIDS and other highly infectious illnesses, hygiene is no concern. The patients are treated with good words and insufficient (sometimes outdated) medicines, applied with old needles, washed in lukewarm water. One can hear the screams of people having maggots tweezered from their open wounds without pain relief. On principle, strong painkillers are even in hard cases not given. According to Mother Teresa's bizarre philosophy, it is "the most beautiful gift for a person that he can participate in the sufferings of Christ". Once she tried to comfort a screaming sufferer: "You are suffering, that means Jesus is kissing you!" The man got furious and screamed back: "Then tell your Jesus to stop kissing me!
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Post by: Whitney on August 25, 2007, 12:17:18 AM
I like that the group of people who have decided to frequent this forum can see "Mother Theresa was a very evil person" and not go into attack mode.  I said something similar on another mostly atheist forum and was told that it wasn't nice to attack those who are dead, not all Christians are bad etc etc....as if I was attacking how she was for no valid reason.

She really wasn't a nice person and was only concerned with suffering (watch some videos which show what the care facilites she sat up were like), I was surprised when I found that out as well.  Anyway, I wonder if they are releasing her diaries since more an more people are doubting how saintly she really was?
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Post by: donkeyhoty on August 25, 2007, 10:46:49 PM
Christopher Hitchens wrote about her in "The Missionary Position".  

I read some exerpts, and the gist of it is pretty much what Tom62 has said.


Although, it's not like Mother Teresa holds the patent on malevolent missionary work.
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Post by: SteveS on August 26, 2007, 05:20:46 PM
QuoteThen tell your Jesus to stop kissing me!
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Damn straight, Jesus!  "No" means "no" you sick little perv.....
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Post by: cantthinkofaname on August 26, 2007, 07:18:48 PM
Quote from: "tigerlily46514"wow- are you kidding me!  i had no idea......dang, even I used to admire her, but i guess i really didn't know much about her....

what a shocker.....

Maybe this will help you.     http://www.mukto-mona.com/Articles/moth ... nal_ed.htm (http://www.mukto-mona.com/Articles/mother_teresa/sanal_ed.htm)

or this from Penn and Teller:  Featuring Chtistopher Hitchens on Mother Teresa: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3tUuA7WBRE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3tUuA7WBRE)

There is a book in amazon.com about her but i can't think of the name as of now.
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Post by: Allhailtuna on September 29, 2007, 09:20:53 AM
I've seen that article before. Apparently she wasn't actually an atheist. More of an agnostic, or a Christian with slight doubts. According to the Church, she was just going through the 'doubt that all Saints go through' or something. xD
But yes, I've read some excerpts from The Missionary Position. Whatever her beliefs, Mother Teresa was... Evil, I guess. I don't generally like that word, but I can't think of anything better for now. If she didn't even believe in Christianity, it just makes her worse.
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Post by: rlrose328 on September 29, 2007, 07:09:22 PM
There was a massive article on Mother Teresa in TIME Magazine a month or so ago.  It was fascinating, containing many excerpts from her letters to her superiors (that she had requested be destroyed but they refused) discussing her issues with her beliefs and her growing concern that god had abandoned her.  She lived most of her life without belief, just carrying on as though nothing were wrong.  It was appalling how she embraced pain and suffering with such glee!
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Post by: Churchworker on September 29, 2007, 11:38:49 PM
Mother Teresa was a false prophet lead by the Devil.
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Post by: rlrose328 on September 30, 2007, 04:25:19 AM
Weren't they all.
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Post by: cantthinkofaname on November 04, 2007, 02:17:56 AM
Quote from: "Churchworker"Mother Teresa was a false prophet lead by the Devil.


More like led by the church and she wasn't a prophet.