Justin Bieber appears to be a bit of an evangelical (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/09/justin-bieber-tween-evang_n_820993.html). Wonder how his fan-base perceives that.
I can't figure out if his fame will be short lived or if he'll end up to be the next Michael Jackson.
Just when you thought he couldn't get any worse...
I kind of feel sorry for the kid. These days, someone like that is going to be a big target for hate. At the age of fourteen, I wouldn't have been able to handle that kind of vitriol. All I see is some scared kid being told by sycophantic (and money obsessed) adults he's living the dream when in fact, he's being robbed of his childhood.
The simple things ordinary people take for granted are the sorts of things super rich, super famous people would happily give up their money for. Anonymity, community and genuine friendship, to name a few. Obviously, many famous people are able to get round that BS and have a nice life but these are usually people who had a normal existence until they were adults. Someone like Beiber doesn't stand a chance.
It is not a normal existence for a child. You only have to look at the stats for previous child stars to see how many go off the rails.
I had never heard of this kid until I saw him appear on SNL last year. His music is the same teeny bopper bullshit that scores of 9-13 year old chicks really like. The media tries to portray him as a role model for boys, but I'm not so sure. The same type of musical/public acts as other male teen stars have really only turned out well for one person (so far) and that's Timberlake. He actually has some talent other than his feminine voice though.
Unfortunately, history says this young [cough cough] man will not have such a bright future. Unfortunately, 9-13 year old girls grow up, and the younger generation that replaces them won't really be in to an older Bieber, and his star will fade, until he ends up hosting some reality show on the E! network.
I don't know, maybe I'm just cynical. But I think even he knows it, which is why he has already released his autobiography (http://www.amazon.com/Justin-Bieber-First-Forever-Official/dp/0062039741). More power to you, might as well milk it while you can.
So, what do you say HAF? Do you have 'Bieber fever'?
[spoiler:ktqyhwa6]lol[/spoiler:ktqyhwa6]
I honestly dislike J-Bieb's music both as a poet, composer and listener.
However, if he likes his life, including all the media whoring he gets to do, than good for him, I say.
His fame seems to be connected only with the young teens....he should enjoy it while it lasts.
I didn't even recognize him when he was on TV the other day; just know his name from people making jokes or complaining about their teen's obsession.
Quote from: "Asmodean"I honestly dislike J-Bieb's music both as a poet, composer and listener.
However, if he likes his life, including all the media whoring he gets to do, than good for him, I say.
+1.
... but seriously... with that haircut? How could he *not* be a Christian?
(just sayin')
Quote from: "joeactor"Quote from: "Asmodean"I honestly dislike J-Bieb's music both as a poet, composer and listener.
However, if he likes his life, including all the media whoring he gets to do, than good for him, I say.
+1.
... but seriously... with that haircut? How could he *not* be a Christian?
(just sayin')
You make an excellent point. I never assumed he wasn't a Christian.
Quote from: "karadan"At the age of fourteen,
He's actually sixteen.
I feel compelled to post these:
[youtube:9ko7uwdx]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7eLiwH-n7s[/youtube:9ko7uwdx]
[youtube:9ko7uwdx]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8eE6k5ktYo[/youtube:9ko7uwdx]
[youtube:9ko7uwdx]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ijk75NqPmXw[/youtube:9ko7uwdx]
[youtube:9ko7uwdx]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i21qrajFSHg[/youtube:9ko7uwdx]
(They're long, but really funny.)
Quote from: "Whitney"His fame seems to be connected only with the young teens....he should enjoy it while it lasts.
I didn't even recognize him when he was on TV the other day; just know his name from people making jokes or complaining about their teen's obsession.
To think about it I've never listened to an adult say that they enjoy Justin's music... But people do like to make jokes about him.
I find it hilarious that the 'Amazing' Atheist wasted time researching Bieber so he could produce videos on him. I vote boy crush...which is kinda creepy considering AA has to be nearing 40 (ok....maybe he has a child who is crushing on bieber and that sparked him thinking about it).
Quote from: "Whitney"I find it hilarious that the 'Amazing' Atheist wasted time researching Bieber so he could produce videos on him. I vote boy crush...which is kinda creepy considering AA has to be nearing 40 (ok....maybe he has a child who is crushing on bieber and that sparked him thinking about it).
Lol. He's like, twenty-five. If he had a child, I would wonder why the Child Protection Services hadn't taken him away already.
He makes videos on Justin Bieber because people like that kind of shit. People like to see fat men rage on the little pop culture icon that everybody loves to hate.
Does he SCREW the troll at the end of that last one?!

Twisted...
Quote from: "LegendarySandwich"Lol. He's like, twenty-five.
Really? He needs to take better care of himself; I think all the yelling and flipping out over stuff has aged him.
Quote from: "Whitney"Quote from: "LegendarySandwich"Lol. He's like, twenty-five.
Really? He needs to take better care of himself; I think all the yelling and flipping out over stuff has aged him.
Or the McDonalds.
Quote from: "LegendarySandwich"Quote from: "karadan"At the age of fourteen,
He's actually sixteen.
He was still very famous at fourteen.
My point is, fame can more easily negatively impact the minds of the young than an adult with an already established self-identity.
I absolutely do not envy him.
Quote from: "karadan"Quote from: "LegendarySandwich"Quote from: "karadan"At the age of fourteen,
He's actually sixteen.
He was still very famous at fourteen.
My point is, fame can more easily negatively impact the minds of the young than an adult with an already established self-identity.
I absolutely do not envy him.
Has there ever been a child star who grew up to be a psychologically healthy adult? On the bright side, he hasn't had a contract with Disney. For whatever reason Disney seems to produce the most insane celebrities.
If Justin Bieber ends up gaining even 10% of the popularity and fan base Michael Jackson had, it'll only go to show how terrible people's taste in music is these days.
(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi294.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fmm103%2FsadNinjaa%2FThose%2520That%2520Make%2520You%2520Smile%2Fjustin-bieber-hit-on-stage-o.gif&hash=c52a9560e6ee2544a127092f8ee2656100b9fd05)
Quote from: "Sophus"Has there ever been a child star who grew up to be a psychologically healthy adult? On the bright side, he hasn't had a contract with Disney. For whatever reason Disney seems to produce the most insane celebrities.
Drew Barrymore?
Quote from: "Cecilie"Quote from: "Sophus"Has there ever been a child star who grew up to be a psychologically healthy adult? On the bright side, he hasn't had a contract with Disney. For whatever reason Disney seems to produce the most insane celebrities.
Drew Barrymore?
Eventually she did get her act together. But she was taking coke and sleeping around at 13 'ish at hollywood parties. She had a guy come up to her when she was 15 who introduced himself as 'one of the six men that fucked you last christmas', she couldn't even remember the party, let alone the man!
Quote from: "Tank"Quote from: "Cecilie"Quote from: "Sophus"Has there ever been a child star who grew up to be a psychologically healthy adult? On the bright side, he hasn't had a contract with Disney. For whatever reason Disney seems to produce the most insane celebrities.
Drew Barrymore?
Eventually she did get her act together. But she was taking coke and sleeping around at 13 'ish at hollywood parties. She had a guy come up to her when she was 15 who introduced himself as 'one of the six men that fucked you last christmas', she couldn't even remember the party, let alone the man!
You sure know a lot about Drew Barrymore.
Quote from: "Cecilie"Quote from: "Tank"Eventually she did get her act together. But she was taking coke and sleeping around at 13 'ish at hollywood parties. She had a guy come up to her when she was 15 who introduced himself as 'one of the six men that fucked you last christmas', she couldn't even remember the party, let alone the man!
You sure know a lot about Drew Barrymore.
There was a documentary about her on the TV a few years ago where she recounted that anecdote, among others.
Quote from: "Tank"Quote from: "Cecilie"Quote from: "Tank"Eventually she did get her act together. But she was taking coke and sleeping around at 13 'ish at hollywood parties. She had a guy come up to her when she was 15 who introduced himself as 'one of the six men that fucked you last christmas', she couldn't even remember the party, let alone the man!
You sure know a lot about Drew Barrymore.
There was a documentary about her on the TV a few years ago where she recounted that anecdote, among others.
Ah, okay. Well, what about Justin Timberlake or Keri Russell? Did they go to rehab?
Quote from: "Cecilie"Ah, okay. Well, what about Justin Timberlake or Keri Russell? Did they go to rehab?
No idea. I haven't seen any documentaries about them. In fact I'm going to G00Gle
X-mas Time by A-ha to see who (s)he is.
Quote from: "Tank"Quote from: "Cecilie"Ah, okay. Well, what about Justin Timberlake or Keri Russell? Did they go to rehab?
No idea. I haven't seen any documentaries about them. In fact I'm going to G00Gle
X-mas Time by A-ha to see who (s)he is. Google X-mas Time by a-ha to see who Keri Russell is?
Quote from: "Cecilie"Quote from: "Tank"Quote from: "Cecilie"Ah, okay. Well, what about Justin Timberlake or Keri Russell? Did they go to rehab?
No idea. I haven't seen any documentaries about them. In fact I'm going to G00Gle
X-mas Time by A-ha to see who (s)he is. Google X-mas Time by a-ha to see who Keri Russell is?
lol
Quote from: "Tank"lol
I was confused there for a second.
Quote from: "Cecilie"Quote from: "Tank"lol
I was confused there for a second.
Wait till you reach 50, confusion becomes the state of existance
Quote from: "Tank"Quote from: "Cecilie"Quote from: "Tank"lol
I was confused there for a second.
Wait till you reach 50, confusion becomes the state of existance 
That doesn't sound promising, I'm already confused about most things.
Quote from: "Cecilie"That doesn't sound promising, I'm already confused about most things.
Santa and Satan. I always confuse those two... Which one was clothed in red again..?
Quote from: "Asmodean"Quote from: "Cecilie"That doesn't sound promising, I'm already confused about most things.
Santa and Satan. I always confuse those two... Which one was clothed in red again..? 
I think Santa. Wasn't it Satan that had the red skin and horns?
Quote from: "Cecilie"I think Santa. Wasn't it Satan that had the red skin and horns?
Nono, it must be the opposite... Santa has raindeer, yes..? They have horns, no..? :hmm:
Quote from: "Asmodean"Quote from: "Cecilie"I think Santa. Wasn't it Satan that had the red skin and horns?
Nono, it must be the opposite... Santa has raindeer, yes..? They have horns, no..? :hmm:
Satan hates socks because he's insecure about his hooves. Wait... Is Satan a faun? Or a centaur?
Quote from: "Cecilie"Satan hates socks because he's insecure about his hooves. Wait... Is Satan a faun? Or a centaur?
Ooh! Ooh! :yay:
...Or..?
Quote from: "Asmodean"Quote from: "Cecilie"Satan hates socks because he's insecure about his hooves. Wait... Is Satan a faun? Or a centaur?
Ooh! Ooh! :yay:
...Or..? 
Then who's Rudolph?
Quote from: "Cecilie"Then who's Rudolph?
Who..? Now you are just trying to confuse me, aren't you?!
Wait... How did this go from Justin Bieber to Rudolph? Asmodean... It looks like we did it again.
Quote from: "Cecilie"Wait... How did this go from Justin Bieber to Rudolph? Asmodean... It looks like we did it again.
Oh, yes we did
You guys do this to EVERY THREAD.
Quote from: "Asmodean"Quote from: "Cecilie"Satan hates socks because he's insecure about his hooves. Wait... Is Satan a faun? Or a centaur?
Ooh! Ooh! :yay:
...Or..? 
Satan as a reindeer, as spotted here.
(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi487.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Frr235%2FJAS_Skywalker4%2Freindeer.jpg&hash=3a20fd1452395440a366d7b952cc380eaf3cb5b0)
Quote from: "Sophus"I can't figure out if his fame will be short lived or if he'll end up to be the next Michael Jackson.
Hopefully the fact that he was passed over as Artist of the Year at the Grammy's is an indication that he just might be a passing fad.
I hope so.
I just dislike the little fuck because he's what 13, 14 and makes more money than me! But I agree with most of you he is just a passing fad! It's the same with every boy band that has come around.
Quote from: "ForTheLoveOfAll"Satan as a reindeer, as spotted here.
(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi487.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Frr235%2FJAS_Skywalker4%2Freindeer.jpg&hash=3a20fd1452395440a366d7b952cc380eaf3cb5b0)
See! See! What did I tellya!
Satan is a shapeshifter now?
On the off chance that this thread remains somewhat pertinent to Justin Bieber I figure I'll lament that he's on Conan tonight. At least it won't be a surprise like the Daily Show.
(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fassets0.ordienetworks.com%2Fimages%2Fuser_photos%2F1178696%2Fbieberstewart_fullsize.jpg%3F60a4c272&hash=336838e643f992af39ce964e4b36c30533c50e0f)
Quote from: "Sophus"On the off chance that this thread remains somewhat pertinent to Justin Bieber I figure I'll lament that he's on Conan tonight. At least it won't be a surprise like the Daily Show.
(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fassets0.ordienetworks.com%2Fimages%2Fuser_photos%2F1178696%2Fbieberstewart_fullsize.jpg%3F60a4c272&hash=336838e643f992af39ce964e4b36c30533c50e0f)
I fell out of my chair laughing and in horror when I saw that one a few nights ago.
Quote from: "ForTheLoveOfAll"I fell out of my chair laughing and in horror when I saw that one a few nights ago.
Any one know if that thing can be found online someplace..? Now I'm sort of interested... Used to like TDS before.
Quote from: "Asmodean"Quote from: "ForTheLoveOfAll"I fell out of my chair laughing and in horror when I saw that one a few nights ago.
Any one know if that thing can be found online someplace..? Now I'm sort of interested... Used to like TDS before. 
[youtube:1mht07n6]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If8qhCMoaGs[/youtube:1mht07n6]
Quote from: "ForTheLoveOfAll"Quote from: "Asmodean"Quote from: "ForTheLoveOfAll"I fell out of my chair laughing and in horror when I saw that one a few nights ago.
Any one know if that thing can be found online someplace..? Now I'm sort of interested... Used to like TDS before. 
[youtube:33nnhlmz]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If8qhCMoaGs[/youtube:33nnhlmz]
That was actually pretty funny.
Earlier on in this thread i said i felt bad for Bieber because of all the celebrity BS being forced upon him. Well, maybe he's been surrounded by good people enabling him to stay grounded. You know, the kind of stuff Britney Spears never had.
I guess we'll never know. It's not like any of us work in that industry.
QuoteThat was actually pretty funny.
Earlier on in this thread i said i felt bad for Bieber because of all the celebrity BS being forced upon him. Well, maybe he's been surrounded by good people enabling him to stay grounded. You know, the kind of stuff Britney Spears never had.
I guess we'll never know. It's not like any of us work in that industry.
He started out with some serious talent, and while I REALLY dislike him now, I can't deny he still has some ability as an entertainer, but I feel he'll be washed out in the next five years.
Quote from: "ForTheLoveOfAll"QuoteThat was actually pretty funny.
Earlier on in this thread i said i felt bad for Bieber because of all the celebrity BS being forced upon him. Well, maybe he's been surrounded by good people enabling him to stay grounded. You know, the kind of stuff Britney Spears never had.
I guess we'll never know. It's not like any of us work in that industry.
He started out with some serious talent, and while I REALLY dislike him now, I can't deny he still has some ability as an entertainer, but I feel he'll be washed out in the next five years.
Well, before i saw that clip, i never knew he could play the drums. I consequently looked up some other vids and he really can play. Way better than i was at that age.
Fair play to the kid.
QuoteBieber, who turns 17 on March 1st, also has an opinion on abortion.
"It's like killing a baby," he says.
Article (http://entertainment.blogs.foxnews.com/2011/02/16/justin-bieber-unimpressed-with-american-health-care-system-prefers-canadas/#ixzz1EAbceG1b)
Wow. Insightful. It is, indeed, like killing a baby.
I'm not surprised he's pro life, being that he is an abortion survivor himself.
Quote from: "hismikeness"Article (http://entertainment.blogs.foxnews.com/2011/02/16/justin-bieber-unimpressed-with-american-health-care-system-prefers-canadas/#ixzz1EAbceG1b)
The Return of Beavis and Butt-Head.
Quote from: "ForTheLoveOfAll"[youtube:3kzyqq2m]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If8qhCMoaGs[/youtube:3kzyqq2m]
Oh horror! :raised:
Quote from: "hismikeness"QuoteBieber, who turns 17 on March 1st, also has an opinion on abortion.
"It's like killing a baby," he says.
Article (http://entertainment.blogs.foxnews.com/2011/02/16/justin-bieber-unimpressed-with-american-health-care-system-prefers-canadas/#ixzz1EAbceG1b)
Wow. Insightful. It is, indeed, like killing a baby.
I'm not surprised he's pro life, being that he is an abortion survivor himself.
Meh. He's just parroting what he's been indoctrinated to say. Give him a few hours with Ricky Gervais and he'll be converted.
Quote from: "Asmodean"Quote from: "ForTheLoveOfAll"[youtube:29jlva22]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If8qhCMoaGs[/youtube:29jlva22]
Oh horror! :raised:
I honestly don't see why any girl over the age of 13 would be attracted to him, but there are grown women throwing themselves at him.
Quote from: "ForTheLoveOfAll"I honestly don't see why any girl over the age of 13 would be attracted to him, but there are grown women throwing themselves at him. 
A pretty face DOES get you far, no matter what they say, and most would say he does have that.
Quote from: "Asmodean"Quote from: "ForTheLoveOfAll"I honestly don't see why any girl over the age of 13 would be attracted to him, but there are grown women throwing themselves at him. :bananacolor:
Quote from: "hismikeness"QuoteBieber, who turns 17 on March 1st, also has an opinion on abortion.
"It's like killing a baby," he says.
Article (http://entertainment.blogs.foxnews.com/2011/02/16/justin-bieber-unimpressed-with-american-health-care-system-prefers-canadas/#ixzz1EAbceG1b)
Wow. Insightful. It is, indeed, like killing a baby.
I'm not surprised he's pro life, being that he is an abortion survivor himself.
Judging by the comments on that article's page being pro-life Christian isn't enough to make up for being a teen Canadian socialist who thinks America's health care system is evil.
(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F25.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_lgqdd2eAaW1qboiovo1_500.gif&hash=3ae7e44ee905bb7bbee43cb54ad17ade9d549148)
Quote from: "Sophus"Quote from: "hismikeness"QuoteBieber, who turns 17 on March 1st, also has an opinion on abortion.
"It's like killing a baby," he says.
Article (http://entertainment.blogs.foxnews.com/2011/02/16/justin-bieber-unimpressed-with-american-health-care-system-prefers-canadas/#ixzz1EAbceG1b)
Wow. Insightful. It is, indeed, like killing a baby.
I'm not surprised he's pro life, being that he is an abortion survivor himself.
Judging by the comments on that article's page being pro-life Christian isn't enough to make up for being a teen Canadian socialist who thinks America's health care system is evil.
(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F25.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_lgqdd2eAaW1qboiovo1_500.gif&hash=3ae7e44ee905bb7bbee43cb54ad17ade9d549148)
Even though Jesus was most likely what we could call a socialist today, or at the least a liberal.
Christian hypocrisy can amaze me sometimes.
Quote from: "LegendarySandwich"Even though Jesus was most likely what we could call a socialist today, or at the least a liberal.
Christian hypocrisy can amaze me sometimes.
Jesus: "If someone slaps you on one cheek, offer the other cheek also. If someone demands your coat, offer your shirt also."
Teabaggers: "Don't tread on me! No taxes!"
Quote from: "LegendarySandwich"Even though Jesus was most likely what we could call a socialist today, or at the least a liberal.
Christian hypocrisy can amaze me sometimes.
I've always thought that. Surely social Darwinism fails to fit in with the whole "it's easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than a rich man into Heaven" notion?

Bieber's going to the Playboy Mansion (http://www.torontosun.com/entertainment/celebrities/2011/02/24/17389926-wenn-story.html). Should've put that in his movie.
Quote from: "Sophus"roflol Bieber's going to the Playboy Mansion (http://www.torontosun.com/entertainment/celebrities/2011/02/24/17389926-wenn-story.html). Should've put that in his movie.
And so the corruption begins.
Well, I hope he gets as much as he can out of his career while it lasts, as history shows the vast majority of "teen superstar" careers end with the teen years, if not before.
Also hope someone buys him a hooker, so he has something to write lyrics about
I don't live in the US and I don't have daughters so I only know Bieber by name but if he's one of the cunning people using religion to increase his popularity (and his personal wealth) shame on the religious people who fall for it.
Hey Leo, I'm afraid your avatar is incorrect. I believe it's supposed to be "You shall not pass", amirite?
Quote from: "Sophus"Quote from: "hismikeness"QuoteBieber, who turns 17 on March 1st, also has an opinion on abortion.
"It's like killing a baby," he says.
Article (http://entertainment.blogs.foxnews.com/2011/02/16/justin-bieber-unimpressed-with-american-health-care-system-prefers-canadas/#ixzz1EAbceG1b)
Wow. Insightful. It is, indeed, like killing a baby.
I'm not surprised he's pro life, being that he is an abortion survivor himself.
Judging by the comments on that article's page being pro-life Christian isn't enough to make up for being a teen Canadian socialist who thinks America's health care system is evil.
(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F25.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_lgqdd2eAaW1qboiovo1_500.gif&hash=3ae7e44ee905bb7bbee43cb54ad17ade9d549148)
Am I the only one who thinks Conan looks abso-fucking-lutely creepy?
Quote from: "Cecilie"Hey Leo, I'm afraid your avatar is incorrect. I believe it's supposed to be "You shall not pass", amirite?
Actually, it was more like: "You! Shall not!! PASS!!!", yes?
Quote from: "Cecilie"Hey Leo, I'm afraid your avatar is incorrect. I believe it's supposed to be "You shall not pass", amirite?
Yes, you're right but I still like this one
Quote from: "Asmodean"Quote from: "Cecilie"Hey Leo, I'm afraid your avatar is incorrect. I believe it's supposed to be "You shall not pass", amirite?
Actually, it was more like: "You! Shall not!! PASS!!!", yes? 
Indeed.
This must be the reason why I was instinctively highly disgusted with him before really knowing who he is.
Quote from: "ForTheLoveOfAll"Am I the only one who thinks Conan looks abso-fucking-lutely creepy?
Here, or just in general?