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Title: Queen says Atheists are OK
Post by: The Magic Pudding on November 30, 2010, 06:28:29 AM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/nov/2 ... nod-virtue (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/nov/23/queen-synod-virtue)
QuotePeople of faith do not have a monopoly on virtue as British society was now "more diverse and secular", the Queen told the Church of England today in an address to its governing body.

Speaking at Church House, central London, she told members of General Synod that believers and atheists were equally able to contribute to the prosperity and wellbeing of the country.

The Queen, who is supreme governor of the Church of England, said: "In our more diverse and secular society, the place of religion has come to be a matter of lively discussion. It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue and that the wellbeing and prosperity of the nation depend on the contribution of individuals and groups of all faiths and none."

Good on ya Queen.
Take that pope!
Royalty that is a long way away and doesn't cost anything is the best sort.
And to actually express a reasonable opinion, well it might be worth keeping her on the coins a while longer.
Title: Re: Queen says Atheists are OK
Post by: SSY on November 30, 2010, 08:44:32 AM
I approve of this.

Also, the queen pays for herself many times over.
Title: Re: Queen says Atheists are OK
Post by: The Magic Pudding on November 30, 2010, 12:13:14 PM
Quote from: SSYI approve of this.

Also, the queen pays for herself many times over.

Now you're making me feel guilty about stealing her hat and glove.
But I'm not giving them back.

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Title: Re: Queen says Atheists are OK
Post by: wildfire_emissary on November 30, 2010, 01:17:36 PM
In that case, God save the queen.
Title: Re: Queen says Atheists are OK
Post by: karadan on November 30, 2010, 02:29:08 PM
Quote from: "SSY"I approve of this.

Also, the queen pays for herself many times over.

Quite!
Title: Re: Queen says Atheists are OK
Post by: Dretlin on November 30, 2010, 09:56:45 PM
Quite honestly - did not see that coming! Still warming to read however.
Title: Re: Queen says Atheists are OK
Post by: karadan on December 01, 2010, 11:41:50 AM
I reckon the queen has become agnostic in her old age.

Just a hunch.
Title: Re: Queen says Atheists are OK
Post by: The Magic Pudding on December 02, 2010, 03:10:47 AM
I suppose angry mobs have been eroding the divine right to rule for quite a while now.
Title: Re: Queen says Atheists are OK
Post by: Recusant on December 02, 2010, 10:09:49 AM
Quote from: "The Magic Pudding"Now you're making me feel guilty about stealing her hat and glove.
But I'm not giving them back.
I can't help but notice that your glove is pointing in a somewhat different direction than Her Majesty's. lol
Certainly don't fault your sense of style though, nor hers. I'm not particularly a Royalist, but I've never really understood the venom directed at the Queen and the royal family by certain elements in British society.  For this though, I say, "Three cheers for the Queen!"

Pip pip, HURRAH!
Pip pip, HURRAH!
Pip pip, HURRAH!
Title: Re: Queen says Atheists are OK
Post by: karadan on December 02, 2010, 10:44:09 AM
I agree Recusant. What damage have they ever done apart from the odd racist comment by Prince Phillip? :D

I certainly do not envy any of them. The Queen is 84 years old. I don't know how many other people of her age have that kind of itinerary. Most people will have been retired for 20 years by that point.

If any of the nay-sayers try to argue the Royals don't do anything for the UK, they'll only have to look at the world-wide viewing figures for when William gets married next year. The viewership will be comparable to that of the World Cup. I don't see how that kind of world-wide interest can be detrimental to the UK.
Title: Re: Queen says Atheists are OK
Post by: The Magic Pudding on December 02, 2010, 11:18:21 AM
Quote from: "karadan"What damage have they ever done apart from the odd racist comment by Prince Phillip? lol
Just so old man.
Title: Re: Queen says Atheists are OK
Post by: SSY on December 02, 2010, 12:36:18 PM
Quote from: "Recusant"
Quote from: "The Magic Pudding"Now you're making me feel guilty about stealing her hat and glove.
But I'm not giving them back.
I can't help but notice that your glove is pointing in a somewhat different direction than Her Majesty's. lol
Certainly don't fault your sense of style though, nor hers. I'm not particularly a Royalist, but I've never really understood the venom directed at the Queen and the royal family by certain elements in British society.  For this though, I say, "Three cheers for the Queen!"

Pip pip, HURRAH!
Pip pip, HURRAH!
Pip pip, HURRAH!

Hip hip, surely?
Title: Re: Queen says Atheists are OK
Post by: Dretlin on December 02, 2010, 03:55:31 PM
Quote from: "SSY"
Quote from: "Recusant"
Quote from: "The Magic Pudding"Now you're making me feel guilty about stealing her hat and glove.
But I'm not giving them back.
I can't help but notice that your glove is pointing in a somewhat different direction than Her Majesty's. lol
Certainly don't fault your sense of style though, nor hers. I'm not particularly a Royalist, but I've never really understood the venom directed at the Queen and the royal family by certain elements in British society.  For this though, I say, "Three cheers for the Queen!"

Pip pip, HURRAH!
Pip pip, HURRAH!
Pip pip, HURRAH!

Hip hip, surely?

I second the hip hip.
Title: Re: Queen says Atheists are OK
Post by: Chandler M Bing on December 02, 2010, 05:04:46 PM
Rejoicing over the approval of the queen, a churchgoer. The irony.
Title: Re: Queen says Atheists are OK
Post by: elliebean on December 02, 2010, 06:25:48 PM
Quote from: "Chandler M Bing"Rejoicing over the approval of the queen, a churchgoer. The irony.
You have a problem with churchgoers?
Title: Re: Queen says Atheists are OK
Post by: Recusant on December 02, 2010, 06:28:19 PM
Quote from: SSYHip hip, surely?
Quote from: DretlinI second the hip hip.
OK, since it was a cheer for your Queen, I bow to your choice in this matter.  Too late to edit it now that it's been quoted, though.  My faux pas will be forever recorded.(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg94.imageshack.us%2Fimg94%2F1672%2Fredfaceu.gif&hash=577381cccbc14f407ce522721979a2b4d1856352)

In my defense, I can say that I've seen and heard it both ways.  Maybe I should have asked for advice on the proper form for cheering a royal  :-\  (I'm sure it was a first for me).

Quote from: Chandler M BingRejoicing over the approval of the queen, a churchgoer. The irony.
Hello and welcome to HAF, Chandler M Bing.

The tolerance which was espoused by the Head of State of Great Britain, whether a church-goer or not, is to be commended. You may see that commendation as ironic, I see it as praising an effort toward progress.  

Perhaps you think that an atheist should shun all pronouncements by any theist?  That would be churlish and counterproductive.  Atheists don't have a monopoly on churlish behavior, such that atheism is defined by it.  And as the Queen pointed out, many atheists are productive members of society.  I reject your comment as inaccurate.
Title: Re: Queen says Atheists are OK
Post by: Chandler M Bing on December 02, 2010, 08:56:14 PM
It was a lighthearted comment. I was just saying that it's ironic, that's all.
Title: Re: Queen says Atheists are OK
Post by: The Magic Pudding on December 02, 2010, 10:59:51 PM
Quote from: "Chandler M Bing"Rejoicing over the approval of the queen, a churchgoer. The irony.

Church owner.
Title: Re: Queen says Atheists are OK
Post by: Chandler M Bing on December 03, 2010, 12:24:06 AM
Quote from: "The Magic Pudding"
Quote from: "Chandler M Bing"Rejoicing over the approval of the queen, a churchgoer. The irony.

Church owner.

True. That makes it even more ironic.
Title: Re: Queen says Atheists are OK
Post by: Dretlin on December 03, 2010, 09:59:59 AM
Quote from: "Chandler M Bing"It was a lighthearted comment. I was just saying that it's ironic, that's all.

I do not want to develop further on Recusant's post, as he demonstrated how fallacies your first post was rather well.

Hip-hip!!!