I don't suppose there's any real way to find out, as of right now, if there was more to the ruling than this? If this is true then it's awful.
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This truly disgusts me.
Not much more to say than that, I guess.
Fox news? I am not American, and I even know that is cause to think twice.
Unless "Fox59" is a channel I am mistaking for another.
This is clearly unconstitutional, I hope the father gets this overturned.
However, the sad fact is that in the USA one is only entitled to as much justice as one can afford. :crazy:
I'm sure the ACLU, FFRF, or AU would provide him pro bono legal help of high quality.
Quote from: "Dretlin"Fox news? I am not American, and I even know that is cause to think twice.
Unless "Fox59" is a channel I am mistaking for another.
Sometimes the local stations aren't as bad as the national basic cable one.
Unfortunately, this type of thing is all too common. As I understand it, before this, there was a 50% split of time. Since moving to such an uneven split, I would presume a support order will be imposed, the side effect of which is more money for the state (every dollar paid in child support, the federal government coughs up a bit more), this rather pernicious incentive encourages the splitting up of families in this way.
Quote from: "SSY"Unfortunately, this type of thing is all too common. As I understand it, before this, there was a 50% split of time. Since moving to such an uneven split, I would presume a support order will be imposed, the side effect of which is more money for the state (every dollar paid in child support, the federal government coughs up a bit more), this rather pernicious incentive encourages the splitting up of families in this way.
That's not the case here in California. I have my son three days a week; his mother has him four. The 4.2 day differential/month (average) result in me having a $68/month support bill. She, however, only sees $50.month from the state. I assume the $18 goes to overhead, but jeezly crow, 36% overhead on what is in essence a funnel operation is horseshit.
Quote from: "Sophus"Quote from: "Dretlin"Fox news? I am not American, and I even know that is cause to think twice.
Unless "Fox59" is a channel I am mistaking for another.
Sometimes the local stations aren't as bad as the national basic cable one.
Thank you for clearing that up.
The USA is slowly mutating into this horrible offshoot called Jesusland, I need to get the hell out of here. I love this country but this shit is depressing, I wish I could speak french, I hear France is an awesome place to live but then again I could probably settle for Canada, won't be quite as much of a culture shock.
Quote from: "Ultima22689"The USA is slowly mutating into this horrible offshoot called Jesusland, I need to get the hell out of here. I love this country but this shit is depressing, I wish I could speak french, I hear France is an awesome place to live but then again I could probably settle for Canada, won't be quite as much of a culture shock.
I disagree. The major metrics indicate an erosion of belief and a relaxation of laws based on religion. The extremism that we
do see is caused by nervous fundies who understand that they are on the wrong side of history, I think.
Quote from: "Ultima22689"The USA is slowly mutating into this horrible offshoot called Jesusland, I need to get the hell out of here. I love this country but this shit is depressing, I wish I could speak french, I hear France is an awesome place to live but then again I could probably settle for Canada, won't be quite as much of a culture shock.
France is pleasant if you do not mind the populous having a massive riot over the most trivial issues. "Oh mon dieu! Stamps have increased in price by 0.0001 cents!!"
Joking aside they are a politically passionate people, which is admirable.
Quote from: "Thumpalumpacus"Quote from: "Ultima22689"The USA is slowly mutating into this horrible offshoot called Jesusland, I need to get the hell out of here. I love this country but this shit is depressing, I wish I could speak french, I hear France is an awesome place to live but then again I could probably settle for Canada, won't be quite as much of a culture shock.
I disagree. The major metrics indicate an erosion of belief and a relaxation of laws based on religion. The extremism that we do see is caused by nervous fundies who understand that they are on the wrong side of history, I think.
Yes, I think we are pulling away from the fifties mentality. But very, very slowly.
I'm thinking about moving somewhere like Australia or Japan -- or maybe even Sweden.
Quote from: "Sophus"Quote from: "Thumpalumpacus"Quote from: "Ultima22689"The USA is slowly mutating into this horrible offshoot called Jesusland, I need to get the hell out of here. I love this country but this shit is depressing, I wish I could speak french, I hear France is an awesome place to live but then again I could probably settle for Canada, won't be quite as much of a culture shock.
I disagree. The major metrics indicate an erosion of belief and a relaxation of laws based on religion. The extremism that we do see is caused by nervous fundies who understand that they are on the wrong side of history, I think.
Yes, I think we are pulling away from the fifties mentality. But very, very slowly.
Yes, admittedly slowly, and that's all the more reason to keep speaking out -- and not online, but irl.
Quote from: "Thumpalumpacus"Quote from: "Ultima22689"The USA is slowly mutating into this horrible offshoot called Jesusland, I need to get the hell out of here. I love this country but this shit is depressing, I wish I could speak french, I hear France is an awesome place to live but then again I could probably settle for Canada, won't be quite as much of a culture shock.
I disagree. The major metrics indicate an erosion of belief and a relaxation of laws based on religion. The extremism that we do see is caused by nervous fundies who understand that they are on the wrong side of history, I think.
Hmm, perhaps you're right. I hope so anyway, it feels good to say i'm an American.
I hope I am, too.
The % of atheists has risen from 2% to almost 10% in the last twenty years, even as population has risen from 270 mil to 305 mil: not just an absolute gain explained by growth, but a proportional and absolute gain. We are making inroads.
Also, look at related issues: DADT is going out the door, medical marijuana use is more acceptable, gay marriage is legal in four states (as opposed to none 20 years ago.) While these are not purely atheist issues, they are all certainly freethinker issues, and all of these trends bespeak the erosion of monotheism.
Good riddance.
I still think a considerable chunk of the christian population is"wrongheaded" and intollerant(I base this on my personal observations and experiences not just bias). Most of the noise is still being made by a small percantage of people and these people seem to be the "extremists" of the group. I'd say that more than half of the christians i know would agree that what happened here is wrong. But still an alarmingly large percentage would completely support this persecutution. I see this as a flaw in humanity, not christianity. There are many atheist extremists who i believe would just as readily deprive christians of their rights if possible, at times i myself am one of them. We are obsessed with our "them and us" mentaility and the sense of purpose, belonging, and righteousness/selfimportance it gives us and i don't see that changing anytime soon. its weird sometimes how identical certain people can seem regardless of which ism they belong to. For example the muslim suicide bombers compared to the christioan pro life killers. The bottom line i think is that we are a selfish, self obsessed, and delusional species bent on attaching some meaning to our meaningless existence. Unfortunately this often seems to lead to violence and injustice for some reason. All we can do is struggle against each other knowing that it will never end.
Man im getting cynical rofl.
Quote from: "Prometheus"I still think a considerable chunk of the christian population is"wrongheaded" and intollerant(I base this on my personal observations and experiences not just bias). Most of the noise is still being made by a small percantage of people and these people seem to be the "extremists" of the group. I'd say that more than half of the christians i know would agree that what happened here is wrong. But still an alarmingly large percentage would completely support this persecutution. I see this as a flaw in humanity, not christianity. There are many atheist extremists who i believe would just as readily deprive christians of their rights if possible, at times i myself am one of them. We are obsessed with our "them and us" mentaility and the sense of purpose, belonging, and righteousness/selfimportance it gives us and i don't see that changing anytime soon. its weird sometimes how identical certain people can seem regardless of which ism they belong to. For example the muslim suicide bombers compared to the christioan pro life killers. The bottom line i think is that we are a selfish, self obsessed, and delusional species bent on attaching some meaning to our meaningless existence. Unfortunately this often seems to lead to violence and injustice for some reason. All we can do is struggle against each other knowing that it will never end.
Man im getting cynical rofl.
You're just being cynical and jaded, it isn't that bad. With the population around 7 billion it's a given we'll have a spectrum ranging from the worst degenerates to have ever lived to the most benevolent and awesome folks to have lived. The human race is getting better.