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Zombie plans anyone!?!?!

Everyone should have one, if you don't, get one.  :drool  :drool  :drool  :drool  

According to /b/, I will be bludgeoning them with my guitar.

I like the idea of heading to the Winchester.

To defeat a zombie, you must think like a zombie.

Quote from: "McQ"I like the idea of heading to the Winchester.

But first, kill Phil.

Leave my vinyl LPs alone.
Where's my cricket bat?

Actually, my first stop would be a Military base.

For the sake of this topic, how do you people think a zombie-like outbreak could occur? I think it would be something viral. Probably a dangerous, rabies-like mutation.

Quote from: "tymygy"Actually, my first stop would be a Military base.

Do you think they would let you in?

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Quote from: "tymygy"Actually, my first stop would be a Military base.

Do you think they would let you in?

I'd give a wink, and maybe blow a kiss or two.

But seriously, you never know, might depend on if they would test you or not. How about this, if I could get in, my first stop would be a military base.

Quote from: "tymygy"Actually, my first stop would be a Military base.

For the sake of this topic, how do you people think a zombie-like outbreak could occur? I think it would be something viral. Probably a dangerous, rabies-like mutation.

That's what I would do but it would depend heavily on the situation. Are these zombies like in a George Romero film? Slow and lumbering I could handle. If fast and psychotic like in 28 days later then I probably wouldn't stand a chance unless coincidentally close to an island. If it was the 'I Am Legend' scenario then I think an army base would be the best bet. In the usual zombie scenario, other survivors would be trying to get to safe places. You'd have to consider them when finding a nice cosy army base to hole up in. Many would go there too. In the I Am Legend scenario, other survivors wouldn't really be an issue (until you get lonely of course) and it would probably be easy to find an army base seeing as travel by day is safe.

I guess the point when you act is crucial. Spend too long at home staring incredulously at the news might be one's undoing. Acting quickly and getting the hell out of a city would be paramount. In my case, geographically, northern Scotland would be the place to go although I know of an army base on Dartmoor which is a tactically sound location to be. Getting to Devon would be more perilous for me than getting to Scotland, however.

Long term survival on my own would be difficult but doing that whilst dodging a zombie menace as well would be rather mentally arduous. Would survival be worth it by that point? I'd need company to keep insanity at bay.

Luckily I live in Northumberland so heading out to the less populated bits is fairly easy for me. I also live on the coast and therefore have the option of getting a boat as Zombies don't tend to sail. So one plan would be to get a boat and sail it to a remote Scottish Island - avoiding land travel as much as possible.

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Quote from: "tymygy"Actually, my first stop would be a Military base.

For the sake of this topic, how do you people think a zombie-like outbreak could occur? I think it would be something viral. Probably a dangerous, rabies-like mutation.

That's what I would do but it would depend heavily on the situation. Are these zombies like in a George Romero film? Slow and lumbering I could handle. If fast and psychotic like in 28 days later then I probably wouldn't stand a chance unless coincidentally close to an island. If it was the 'I Am Legend' scenario then I think an army base would be the best bet. In the usual zombie scenario, other survivors would be trying to get to safe places. You'd have to consider them when finding a nice cosy army base to hole up in. Many would go there too. In the I Am Legend scenario, other survivors wouldn't really be an issue (until you get lonely of course) and it would probably be easy to find an army base seeing as travel by day is safe.

I guess the point when you act is crucial. Spend too long at home staring incredulously at the news might be one's undoing. Acting quickly and getting the hell out of a city would be paramount. In my case, geographically, northern Scotland would be the place to go although I know of an army base on Dartmoor which is a tactically sound location to be. Getting to Devon would be more perilous for me than getting to Scotland, however.

Long term survival on my own would be difficult but doing that whilst dodging a zombie menace as well would be rather mentally arduous. Would survival be worth it by that point? I'd need company to keep insanity at bay.

I agree, being alone would fucking blow, so I'd definetly try to find a friend to come.

And, yeah, it depends on the intelligence and agility of the things.

I would travel to the outskirts of cities in the US, and raid farms for weaponry.  One thing you can count on is well-armed Americans.  I would also make my base camp a place with lots of doors with at least 2 exits.  Booby traps would be a must, and long range communication.  At some point though...would it be worth surviving?

Me, I'd attempt to capture a fortress or a maximum security prison. Notoriously hard places to get into without an invitation, those.

Quote from: "Asmodean"Me, I'd attempt to capture a fortress or a maximum security prison. Notoriously hard places to get into without an invitation, those.

Provided you still have electricity...

Quote from: "DropLogic"Provided you still have electricity...

Fortress gates tend to have analogue locks  

Quote from: "Asmodean"Me, I'd attempt to capture a fortress or a maximum security prison. Notoriously hard places to get into without an invitation, those.

What about food and water? They'd sit and wait....  

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Quote from: "DropLogic"Provided you still have electricity...

Fortress gates tend to have analogue locks  

Oh..here in America all our jails are on magnetic locks. gg.

Quote from: "DropLogic"Oh..here in America all our jails are on magnetic locks. gg.

The cells are.  The outer doors have manual redundancies.

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Quote from: "Asmodean"Me, I'd attempt to capture a fortress or a maximum security prison. Notoriously hard places to get into without an invitation, those.

What about food and water? They'd sit and wait....  

Wells might help for water. Food is harder, but I'd not be the only one experiencing a shortage.

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Quote from: "Asmodean"Me, I'd attempt to capture a fortress or a maximum security prison. Notoriously hard places to get into without an invitation, those.

What about food and water? They'd sit and wait....  

Wells might help for water. Food is harder, but I'd not be the only one experiencing a shortage.

So, would you be forced to leave in order to get food?

Quote from: "tymygy"So, would you be forced to leave in order to get food?

Can't you eat zombie meat?
Cooked of course, I'm not a weirdo.

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Quote from: "tymygy"So, would you be forced to leave in order to get food?

Can't you eat zombie meat?
Cooked of course, I'm not a weirdo.

Assuming the zombies were caused by some kind of pathogen, merely handling the raw meat could be deadly.  That said, if we barricaded in a prison, we would only need to go out for food long enough to get crops growing inside and rain collectors could be built on site.

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Quote from: "tymygy"So, would you be forced to leave in order to get food?

Can't you eat zombie meat?
Cooked of course, I'm not a weirdo.

Assuming the zombies were caused by some kind of pathogen, merely handling the raw meat could be deadly.  That said, if we barricaded in a prison, we would only need to go out for food long enough to get crops growing inside and rain collectors could be built on site.

Well it sounds like you're wasting a lot of good meat.
Obviously you don't eat the brain.
But your free range zombie cooks up wonderfully.

And that jail idea, I think you will end up being the meat.
It is a bad sign if they poke you in the ribs before letting you in.

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Quote from: "The Magic Pudding"Can't you eat zombie meat?
Cooked of course, I'm not a weirdo.

Assuming the zombies were caused by some kind of pathogen, merely handling the raw meat could be deadly.  That said, if we barricaded in a prison, we would only need to go out for food long enough to get crops growing inside and rain collectors could be built on site.

Well it sounds like you're wasting a lot of good meat.
Obviously you don't eat the brain.
But your free range zombie cooks up wonderfully.

And that jail idea, I think you will end up being the meat.
It is a bad sign if they poke you in the ribs before letting you in.

yeah, once your in, its not easy to get out.

And, zombie meat would be highly unlikely. Unless its like a bacteria, once cooked it will be alright.

Unless it's like 38 days later, where merely getting some blood on you while butchering it is enough to make you a zombie.

Quote from: "tymygy"And, zombie meat would be highly unlikely. Unless its like a bacteria, once cooked it will be alright.

Oh nonsense, you guys need do more research.

QuoteIt is believed by doctors and researchers that the disease spread easily and rapidly in the Fore people due to their endocannibalistic  funeral practices, in which relatives consumed the deceased to return the "life force" of the deceased to his hamlet, a Fore societal subunit.[8] The dysmorphism  evident in the infection ratesâ€"kuru was 8-9 times more prevalent in women and children than in men at its peakâ€"is because while the men of the village took the choice cuts, the women and children would eat the rest of the body including the brain, where the prion particles were particularly concentrated. There is also the strong possibility that it was passed on to women and children more easily because they took on the task of cleaning relatives after death and may have had open sores and cuts on their hands.[2] Although ingestion itself of the prion particles can lead to the disease,[9]  there was a high degree of transmission if the prion particles could reach the subcutaneous tissue. With elimination of cannibalism because of Australian law enforcement and local Christian missionaries' efforts, Kuru rapidly declined among the Fore. However, the mean incubation period of the disease is 14 years and cases were reported with latencies of 40 years for those who were most genetically resilient.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuru_%28disease%29 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuru_%28disease%29)

Just a bit of basic hygiene, don't eat the brains and she'll be right mate, no worries.

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Quote from: "tymygy"And, zombie meat would be highly unlikely. Unless its like a bacteria, once cooked it will be alright.

Oh nonsense, you guys need do more research.

QuoteIt is believed by doctors and researchers that the disease spread easily and rapidly in the Fore people due to their endocannibalistic  funeral practices, in which relatives consumed the deceased to return the "life force" of the deceased to his hamlet, a Fore societal subunit.[8] The dysmorphism  evident in the infection ratesâ€"kuru was 8-9 times more prevalent in women and children than in men at its peakâ€"is because while the men of the village took the choice cuts, the women and children would eat the rest of the body including the brain, where the prion particles were particularly concentrated. There is also the strong possibility that it was passed on to women and children more easily because they took on the task of cleaning relatives after death and may have had open sores and cuts on their hands.[2] Although ingestion itself of the prion particles can lead to the disease,[9]  there was a high degree of transmission if the prion particles could reach the subcutaneous tissue. With elimination of cannibalism because of Australian law enforcement and local Christian missionaries' efforts, Kuru rapidly declined among the Fore. However, the mean incubation period of the disease is 14 years and cases were reported with latencies of 40 years for those who were most genetically resilient.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuru_%28disease%29 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuru_%28disease%29)

Just a bit of basic hygiene, don't eat the brains and she'll be right mate, no worries.

Oh shittt

If there was a group of survivors then an oil rig might be a good place to live if trying to escape a '28 days later' style zombie outbreak. Food and water wouldn't be an issue although after a couple of years you'd only have fish to eat. The zombies in 28 days later eventually die of starvation anyway, so waiting a year before getting back to land would be no big deal.

Quote from: "karadan"If there was a group of survivors then an oil rig might be a good place to live if trying to escape a '28 days later' style zombie outbreak. Food and water wouldn't be an issue although after a couple of years you'd only have fish to eat. The zombies in 28 days later eventually die of starvation anyway, so waiting a year before getting back to land would be no big deal.

Fish, eh..? What if the oceans arte contaminated and the fish is like... Zombified..?  

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Quote from: "karadan"If there was a group of survivors then an oil rig might be a good place to live if trying to escape a '28 days later' style zombie outbreak. Food and water wouldn't be an issue although after a couple of years you'd only have fish to eat. The zombies in 28 days later eventually die of starvation anyway, so waiting a year before getting back to land would be no big deal.

Fish, eh..? What if the oceans arte contaminated and the fish is like... Zombified..?  ;)

Quote from: "karadan"Name me a zombie movie where that happens... There aren't. Man, you have such UNREALISTIC expectations for the zombie apocalypse!!!  :D

Zombie contingencys eh?  I got a few actually, depending on where I am at the time.

At home:
Grab my SKS and 30-06 and head over to my ex-infantry friend's place Where he has a large collection of guns, some of which share ammo with my own (his SKS and his AK-47).  From there we have several 2 options.  WE can either hole up in his cellar, or continue on across town (only about 1/2 a km, not a big town).  If we continue on we would head back to my place and grab a bunch of food and whatnot.  If we get stuck we go up into my loft and destroy the staircase leading up to it  (eventually I will be placing a false wall infront of this staricase making it a secret room, in which I plan to consume uprorious amounts of a certain plant).  If all goes well we would make our way down the block to the fire hall where we would grab our gear (for protection, we're both firefighters) and a collection of forcible entry hand tools and other melee weapons.  If we get stuck there we go up the hose tower and wait it out.  Otherwise we grab a truck and head across town to my old workplace, a lumber yard.  By now several of my other friends will have also gotten to the lumber yard.  We use the bricks and other building materials to make it into an impervious fortress.  Then we set a gondola system running down to the grocery store (again, with materials from the store) and we are set to go.  Oh, yeah, the lumber yard has an exxesive amount of ammunition and several crossbows w/ bolts on display.

At work:
Grab a crowbar, go to upstars area, destroy stairs.  Hold out until I can make it to the hardware store downtown.

Around town:  GO to my own house, then follow plan from there.

Out of town:  I'm screwed.

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Quote from: "karadan"Name me a zombie movie where that happens... There aren't. Man, you have such UNREALISTIC expectations for the zombie apocalypse!!!  :D

Well, if every animal is infected, the only hope is vegetation.

So you would have to find a way to crow crops on an oil rig.

Quote from: "tymygy"So you would have to find a way to crow crops on an oil rig.

Nono, I am sittin' in a fortress, playin' with ye old black powder cannons  :devil: Evil Genius style

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Quote from: "tymygy"So you would have to find a way to crow crops on an oil rig.

Nono, I am sittin' in a fortress, playin' with ye old black powder cannons  :devil: Evil Genius style

Smart! I think I will join you.

In a year the zombie willbe as common as the common house cat.

It'd be smooth sailing until the eruption of the Zombie Civil Rights movement, spurred by riots in Chicago and New York and led by Zombies and Zombie sympathizers holding signs that read No Slavery For Brains and Zombies Were People Too!

Quote from: "pinkocommie"It'd be smooth sailing until the eruption of the Zombie Civil Rights movement, spurred by riots in Chicago and New York and led by Zombies and Zombie sympathizers holding signs that read No Slavery For Brains and Zombies Were People Too!

Which is why by that time, I would have a monstrously powerful riot supression force consisting of well-paid free zombies and minimum wage security guards.  :D

Quote from: "Asmodean"Which is why by that time, I would have a monstrously powerful riot supression force consisting of well-paid free zombies and minimum wage security guards.  :D

Well perhaps.
But most of your A class dictators motivate through prejudice and resentment, rather than payment.
The norms are worthy of hate because they hoard all the fresh brains.
Other zombies can be distinguished in some way, foot draggers, moaners or green bodily fluid drippers.
Nobody likes a fluid dripper, you can use this to your advantage.

Quote from: "pinkocommie"It'd be smooth sailing until the eruption of the Zombie Civil Rights movement, spurred by riots in Chicago and New York and led by Zombies and Zombie sympathizers holding signs that read No Slavery For Brains and Zombies Were People Too!

Zombies Were People Too! :D  

I've planned for most anything. I'm actually expecting some sort of civil break down in my lifetime be it from warfar, plague, overpopulation, or resource depletion. I have a semi automatic 12 gauge with 300+ shells, 5 other shotguns, a bolt action 30-06 with 80+ shells, and 2 lightweight 22 rifles with scope with 5000+ shells sitting in my gunroom. Some other guns and ammo also 3 bows and lots of combat knives. I also have several hiking backbacks and enough army surplus ammo boxes to keep my ammo safe and dry. A good idea might be to use some of these airtight boxes to cache ammo out in the mountains around my house too. We have a well on our property which i have a rope and narrow bucket rig for(There will be no electricity likely). Also water sterilization tablets and a filter pump which is supposed to be just as good. Packable pots and pans. lanterns, stove and heater capable of running off gasoline which i plan to siphon from abandoned cars. Extra lighters and a flint striker. Also cottonballs and petroleum jelly for starting fires in the rain safely. tarps, tents, sleeping bags. Extra salt, pepper, and flour(Could actually use a bit more of these things). Also a stockpile of sealable plastic containers. Coke and juice bottles are good. Some even have little taps which can be tied to your pack. Winter clothes and blankets. fishing gear. Jars and equipment for canning and heirloom seeds for planting sustainable crops(Peppers are what i like best. They would be good for trade and for making your food taste better. Beans, potatoes, tomatoes, squash, corn, okra, etc). I don't have any but some tobbacco would be nice. Also hoes, rakes mattocks, etc.

My plan is to gather up my family and friends and head deeper into the mountains which i live in. Shotguns are for close range/nighttime encounters and hunting. 30-06 is for daylight protection. I can accurately shoot up to 200 yards with it and if i really needed to i might be able to make a kill at 600yds(Proffessional snipers do it easily). I keep a chart on my weapons drop ratio with my ammo but i don't have that kind of range to practice on. I'm a deer hunter so your average person probably wouldn't even notice me in my mountains even if they walked right beside me if i was hiding.  The 22 rifle is a must have for everyone. The bullets cost about a nickle each and a good hunter with a scope can kill rabbit, squirrel, birds,  and rats easily with one shot. I took 3 squirrels like this a week ago just to sharpen my skills. 3 shots 3 kills. tasty. Also, when ammo's running low they could put out decent suppressive fire or be used to injure pursuers which is even better than killing them out right because it slows down the group. Bows are good because they are silent but your effective range is only about 40 yards. The main appeal is that a dozen arrows can last a long time if you're careful with them. My main problem is carrying all this stuff to my camp I'd have to make several trips to get it all.

I know my mountains pretty well and water is plentiful. I am able to drink it without purification provided the spring is relatively clean. I've built up a resistance to most of the biota of my region. Right now acorns are plentiful and a know which tubers i can eat(I'm 1/16 Cherokee and my family passes these things down.). The acorns need to be ground up and boiled. Then you take a  towel, shirt, or colinder and rinse them until no more cloudy stuff comes off. the cloudy stuff is tannin and makes you sicker than hell. My ancestors lives this way for a long time and had a more diverse diet and some say a better standard of living than all but teh most prosperous industrial/agricultural nations. There are "Rock houses" and caves all over these mountains and plenty of fire wood and game. I can hike all day without getting winded and i can set up a camp practically in my sleep. I'd say i could survive indefinately with a group of up to 20 so long as everyone pulled their weight. My only concern is fending off rival humans who might compete with us for game and supplies or who might just want to kill us for the hell of it.

I'm not really worried about hordes of undead. But if they came along i'm certain me and my redneck buddies would have a field day rofl.

Quote from: "Prometheus"I've planned for most anything. I'm actually expecting some sort of civil break down in my lifetime be it from warfar, plague, overpopulation, or resource depletion. I have a semi automatic 12 gauge with 300+ shells, 5 other shotguns, a bolt action 30-06 with 80+ shells, and 2 lightweight 22 rifles with scope with 5000+ shells sitting in my gunroom. Some other guns and ammo also 3 bows and lots of combat knives. I also have several hiking backbacks and enough army surplus ammo boxes to keep my ammo safe and dry. A good idea might be to use some of these airtight boxes to cache ammo out in the mountains around my house too. We have a well on our property which i have a rope and narrow bucket rig for(There will be no electricity likely). Also water sterilization tablets and a filter pump which is supposed to be just as good. Packable pots and pans. lanterns, stove and heater capable of running off gasoline which i plan to siphon from abandoned cars. Extra lighters and a flint striker. Also cottonballs and petroleum jelly for starting fires in the rain safely. tarps, tents, sleeping bags. Extra salt, pepper, and flour(Could actually use a bit more of these things). Also a stockpile of sealable plastic containers. Coke and juice bottles are good. Some even have little taps which can be tied to your pack. Winter clothes and blankets. fishing gear. Jars and equipment for canning and heirloom seeds for planting sustainable crops(Peppers are what i like best. They would be good for trade and for making your food taste better. Beans, potatoes, tomatoes, squash, corn, okra, etc). I don't have any but some tobbacco would be nice. Also hoes, rakes mattocks, etc.

My plan is to gather up my family and friends and head deeper into the mountains which i live in. Shotguns are for close range/nighttime encounters and hunting. 30-06 is for daylight protection. I can accurately shoot up to 200 yards with it and if i really needed to i might be able to make a kill at 600yds(Proffessional snipers do it easily). I keep a chart on my weapons drop ratio with my ammo but i don't have that kind of range to practice on. I'm a deer hunter so your average person probably wouldn't even notice me in my mountains even if they walked right beside me if i was hiding. The 22 rifle is a must have for everyone. The bullets cost about a nickle each and a good hunter with a scope can kill rabbit, squirrel, birds, and rats easily with one shot. I took 3 squirrels like this a week ago just to sharpen my skills. 3 shots 3 kills. tasty. Also, when ammo's running low they could put out decent suppressive fire or be used to injure pursuers which is even better than killing them out right because it slows down the group. Bows are good because they are silent but your effective range is only about 40 yards. The main appeal is that a dozen arrows can last a long time if you're careful with them. My main problem is carrying all this stuff to my camp ;)