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I'd like to share what parts of life are tough and annoying for me. I'm just going to name a few things and I want to see how you relate, or differ from them.

1. When girls reject me because I'm an atheist. They think I won't be faithful, or I have no morals...

2. When people place everything they do on a god that doesn't care.

3. When conservatives win the presidental election.

4. When people say I'm going to hell.

Quote from: "tymygy"I'd like to share what parts of life are tough and annoying for me. I'm just going to name a few things and I want to see how you relate, or differ from them.

1. When girls reject me because I'm an atheist. They think I won't be faithful, or I have no morals...

I suppose they could think of more hurtfull reasons, but I haven't been in the market for a long time.

2. When people place everything they do on a god that doesn't care.

Ye thats weird, but more their problem than mine.

3. When conservatives win the presidental election.

Yes I can relate to this one.  
Which is more annoying , the lying politicians or the wilfully ignorant voter?

4. When people say I'm going to hell.

People don't say this to me, it would be strange.

Its Annoying When
1. Fixing a bug in my program, causes five new bugs to appear.
2. People don't keep their promises.
3. You call a help-desk; wait 30 minutes listening to muzak and then get the message "All lines are busy, please try again later".
4. Management don't make any rational decisions, but political ones.
5. Politicians say "Trust Me".
6. Managers say "I have an open door policy".
7. Actors, sportsmen etc. claim their successes on God.
8. People don't know when they should turn off their mobile phones.

...the memory of a life that never was haunts every endless moment in the deep ocean of the dream.

I think it's annoying when Glee uses auto-tune.

Quote from: "The Magic Pudding"4. When people say I'm going to hell.

People don't say this to me, it would be strange.

Many times I've heard christians say to me, "Your going to hellif you don't believe! You'll see when the judgement day comes!"

Creeeepy Sonsa' bitches

"...when it's perfect I suppose..." replied the goblin thinking of writing now, explaining "...boring old perfect then, totally predictable, so no, just give me imperfection and just keep me guessing by it, where perfection is so annoyingly perfect that it stops me cold..."

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...I have to dig out the active topics button.  It should be right next to "view my posts".
...People post in the third person with tons of ellipses that don't belong.

"... oh, and when the modern writing style is mistaken for ellipses..." mentioned the goblin, adding "...and when it's obvious too..."

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... your favorite forum gets hijacked by an influx of new members many of whom don't seem to bring much to the table besides a longing to up their post count or post rambling third person commentary  leaving you to wonder if it's worth it to take so much time searching through thread after thread to find something that will actually have substance and make you think which is what drew you to the forum in the first place.

... jerks like me use run on sentences.  

"...and when it turns out to just three threads my case, hardly a hijack then..." mentioned the goblin, liking the run on sentence too, adding "...but I'll tell you what, I'll go post to post with anyone on the random thread, since the accusation of "adding no content to this forum" seems fair enough and I would like to make amends for it, this way the forum gains by it, and I get to see the content that puts mine to shame, anytime then..."

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Quote from: "PoopShoot"...I have to dig out the active topics button.  It should be right next to "view my posts".
...People post in the third person with tons of ellipses that don't belong.

I agree with both of these. Working on the first one, since it happened during a software update, I believe. I've brought it up with Whitney to see if she knows how to fix it, because I haven't been able to figure out how to.

Quote from: "McQ"I agree with both of these. Working on the first one, since it happened during a software update, I believe. I've brought it up with Whitney to see if she knows how to fix it, because I haven't been able to figure out how to.

Get in contact with War Arrow at http://www.thinkingaloudforum.com/forum/portal.php (http://www.thinkingaloudforum.com/forum/portal.php) .  We had a similar problem and he got it figured out.

I can't describe the irrational anger that comes from my annoyance when the little tab on my pants' zipper gets pointed straight down into the fold of the fly and I have to pry it out. For fuck's sake, it's 2010, can we fix that at least. Seriously, I get fuming mad.

It's annoying when:

The weather changes from rainy to sunny to rainy in the course of one weekend.
Air pockets in shoes get a hole in them and then water inside and they squeak with every step.
I lose a call on my cell only to look at the display and see I have full bars.
Days on end I check my email only to find I have only spam.
People post their horoscopes, farm updates, bejeweled scores, etc, on facebook.
You have to wipe with the paper seat cover because you didn't notice there was no TP.

That's it for now.

Quote from: "hismikeness"The weather changes from rainy to sunny to rainy in the course of one weekend.

Weekend?  Hell, around here it does that in one day.

It's annoying when bugs are attracted to my monitor.
I want to squash them, but I don't think the monitor would like it, and it leaves a mess.
Mosquitoes are annoying in many ways, they fly past the light of my monitor, and then hide in the shadows.
Ticks are annoying because their bites itch for a week.
Same with leaches.
Ants, I don't like ants, you'd have to be weird to like ants.
Spiders don't bother me, but their webs are annoying when I walk into them and get a face full of bugs.
White Ants/termites give me nightmares.
Flies, I hate flies, dirty bastards.
I wish weevils would keep out of my stuff.
I don't like the smell of the mothballs I need to keep the moths out of my wardrobe.
Insects that eat my garden, I don't like them either.

Quote from: "The Magic Pudding"It's annoying when bugs are attracted to my monitor.
I want to squash them, but I don't think the monitor would like it, and it leaves a mess.
Mosquitoes are annoying in many ways, they fly past the light of my monitor, and then hide in the shadows.
Ticks are annoying because their bites itch for a week.
Same with leaches.
Ants, I don't like ants, you'd have to be weird to like ants.
Spiders don't bother me, but their webs are annoying when I walk into them and get a face full of bugs.
White Ants/termites give me nightmares.
Flies, I hate flies, dirty bastards.
I wish weevils would keep out of my stuff.
I don't like the smell of the mothballs I need to keep the moths out of my wardrobe.
Insects that eat my garden, I don't like them either.

Raid, buddy.  Raid.

the goblin, in his moments of weakness perhaps, was annoyed often enough at both his irretrievable past and those declining prospects which lay upon the path in front of him now, saying "...well, at best one can lay these "ghosts of the past" to rest for a while turning ones thoughts elsewhere, but anyone who has ever voiced "growing old is letting go" has simply not grown old yet, for no one can let go that which they cannot touch, for it'll live with one for the rest of ones days till death or memory loss intervene..."

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"...people who don't live up to their little signature tags in forumland, you know the kind of thing, 'I am or not such and such' then go on to prove they are or not, so, best not to have one at all then unless you just go for 'I am a hypocrite'. Though some of the little motivational quotes are a good read, and often quite prophetic, such as 'It's the same each time with progress. First they ignore you, then they say you're mad, then dangerous, then there's a pause and then you can't find anyone who disagrees with you' yes, this one I liked..." as jats grabs his car keys now off for a pint with an old mate

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Quote from: "tymygy"I'd like to share what parts of life are tough and annoying for me. I'm just going to name a few things and I want to see how you relate, or differ from them.

1. When girls reject me because I'm an atheist. They think I won't be faithful, or I have no morals...

2. When people place everything they do on a god that doesn't care.

3. When conservatives win the presidental election.

4. When people say I'm going to hell.

Some of this annoys me as well. Especially in regards to people who you're in relationships with (start to reject you based on your atheism). I've had it done once before. Because of that, I tend to avoid being in relationships with religious people (even non-practicing believers). Why? Because I find it highly hypocritical of someone who claims to be above me (simply because they hold a belief in a higher power) and still do whatever the hell they want, despite it being "against" their religious morals.

I could careless if complete strangers think I'm going to hell. Well, if they were people who supposedly "cared" about me thought/said it, it would rather hurt. I've had it said to me in the past and it does suck.  

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Quote from: "The Magic Pudding"It's annoying when bugs are attracted to my monitor.
I want to squash them, but I don't think the monitor would like it, and it leaves a mess.
Mosquitoes are annoying in many ways, they fly past the light of my monitor, and then hide in the shadows.
Ticks are annoying because their bites itch for a week.
Same with leaches.
Ants, I don't like ants, you'd have to be weird to like ants.
Spiders don't bother me, but their webs are annoying when I walk into them and get a face full of bugs.
White Ants/termites give me nightmares.
Flies, I hate flies, dirty bastards.
I wish weevils would keep out of my stuff.
I don't like the smell of the mothballs I need to keep the moths out of my wardrobe.
Insects that eat my garden, I don't like them either.

Raid, buddy.  Raid.

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people pretend to agree or be knowledgeable of a subject just to be in the conversation.

pedestrians j-walk less than 20 yards from a safe crosswalk.

people get dogs that are too damn big for them to fully control and then walk them on the fucking jogging trail.

friends that still live with their parents want to hang out at their house.......... HELL NO,

new people that I haven't known very long just assume that we've reached the level of hugging

stores run a by one of get one free even window, but raise the price of the one as if the regular customers simultaneously developed a case of temporary numeric Alzheimer's

and........ uummm

corny jokes and fake laughing.. uugghhh.

("...think this fits the bill..." went the goblin, enjoy or simply be reminded of english village life again)

the goblin's blog

41)The goblin was having trouble remembering the Dungford Walkway Code again which reads:

rule 283: safely passing pedestrians:

if passing, in correct order
- smile, ignore person if they don't smile back.
- then say "..hello...", ignore person if they smile walking on by.
- then say "...I think it is going to rain...", except when raining where one then says "...I think it is going to stop raining..." ignore person who wears a Tshirt marked "Islamic Republic of Dungford"
- then engage in half an hour's smalltalk without mentioning the foxban, the English civil war of 1642, and HDTV.
- then sign off by saying "...well it was very nice to met you again..." regardless that you have never met them, or that you are bored out of your banana.

In other words: poke your head around corners, dash behind cars tiptoe across the streets all in mission impossible style.

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Oh, you're so superior.

Thump, what is the person about you even talking about?

 

Quote from: "fleamailman"("...think this fits the bill..." went the goblin, enjoy or simply be reminded of english village life again)

the goblin's blog

41)The goblin was having trouble remembering the Dungford Walkway Code again which reads:

rule 283: safely passing pedestrians:

if passing, in correct order
- smile, ignore person if they don't smile back.
- then say "..hello...", ignore person if they smile walking on by.
- then say "...I think it is going to rain...", except when raining where one then says "...I think it is going to stop raining..." ignore person who wears a Tshirt marked "Islamic Republic of Dungford"
- then engage in half an hour's smalltalk without mentioning the foxban, the English civil war of 1642, and HDTV.
- then sign off by saying "...well it was very nice to met you again..." regardless that you have never met them, or that you are bored out of your banana.

In other words: poke your head around corners, dash behind cars tiptoe across the streets all in mission impossible style.  [Emphasis added -- Thump]

Quote from: "Thumpalumpacus"Oh, you're so superior.

Better?

Quote from: "tymygy"Thump, what is the person about you even talking about?

 

A live writer's post is like nails drawn across a chalk board for Thumpa.
I shouldn't be amused by his suffering.
But if I had the nails for it, could I resist adding to it?

Quote from: "Thumpalumpacus"

Quote from: "fleamailman"("...think this fits the bill..." went the goblin, enjoy or simply be reminded of english village life again)

the goblin's blog

41)The goblin was having trouble remembering the Dungford Walkway Code again which reads:

rule 283: safely passing pedestrians:

if passing, in correct order
- smile, ignore person if they don't smile back.
- then say "..hello...", ignore person if they smile walking on by.
- then say "...I think it is going to rain...", except when raining where one then says "...I think it is going to stop raining..." ignore person who wears a Tshirt marked "Islamic Republic of Dungford"
- then engage in half an hour's smalltalk without mentioning the foxban, the English civil war of 1642, and HDTV.
- then sign off by saying "...well it was very nice to met you again..." regardless that you have never met them, or that you are bored out of your banana.

In other words: poke your head around corners, dash behind cars tiptoe across the streets all in mission impossible style.  [Emphasis added -- Thump]

Quote from: "Thumpalumpacus"Oh, you're so superior.

Better?

hahah I was just asking if you understood it. Cause I have no clue why he posts like that.

drives me nuts.  

QuoteThump, what is the person about you even talking about? drives me nuts

"...oh I'm sorry if you're having reading difficulties, look here you go, use this then, you can thank me later..." said the goblin cordially only trying to be helpful now

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Quote from: "The Magic Pudding"

Quote from: "tymygy"Thump, what is the person about you even talking about?

 

A live writer's post is like nails drawn across a chalk board for Thumpa.
I shouldn't be amused by his suffering.
But if I had the nails for it, could I resist adding to it?

"...I will then, I like tit for tat especially when the tits are like puddy tats then..." Jats laughs watching it now, then whispers "...don't worry, he hasn't read this, he won't watch it, and won't get it then..."

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I forgot I had ignored Jats.

Quote from: "Thumpalumpacus"I forgot I had ignored Jats.

In all my "old man story" long years of discussing things in various ways over the internet, I've never ignored a single person... no matter how bad it got, I never ignored anyone... until now. I didn't ignore Jats and fleamailman because of their "style" or because I don't like what they have to say... it's just that after reading over 30 posts of each, I've yet to find anything useful, interesting and/or not boring. This alone would be fine for me to just read through without much of a problem, but the frequency and length of their posts was causing me to waste too much time on things that have yet to provide anything... well anything besides a waste of time.

I've ignored flea, jats and two fundies.  Flea and Jats for the reasons you just mentioned and the two fundies for similar reasons, though the time wasting was more of a circle-jerk of stupidity rather than simply being boring in the case of the fundies.

"...well, ones detractors are many..." started the goblin again, adding "...but "not being read" means what exactly where one is anonymous to start with, I mean are there some sort of extra brownie points for posts that have "Poopshot's very own badge of approval" here, or the "these posts have been judged readable by the great Davin himself", when it's pretty obvious that JATS random thread is just there for anyone to post to now..." letting the penny drop so speak, continuing "...and nothing would please me more than having you show us how we should post, and what we should post too, think you can cut it then, or is it just that with you each time..."

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It's nice to know I'm not the only one who put those two on my ignore list. And like you guys, it's not because of they style of writing, but complete lack of anything worth reading.

("...better put this one up before someone posts it as a reply again..." mentioned the goblin, adding "..no, the difference between me and JATS is that he doesn't suffer fools lightly whereas I am just so used to them...")

repost from elsewhere, fobbing off that same old barb again

QuoteI make it a point never to read your posts.

"...well that's where we just differ ever so slightly now, in that you don't read my posts and thus go ignorant by it, whereas I read your posts and still go ignorant by it..." replied the goblin simply enough where much simplicity was needed here

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Quote from: "Davin"

Quote from: "Thumpalumpacus"I forgot I had ignored Jats.

In all my "old man story" long years of discussing things in various ways over the internet, I've never ignored a single person... no matter how bad it got, I never ignored anyone... until now. I didn't ignore Jats and fleamailman because of their "style" or because I don't like what they have to say... it's just that after reading over 30 posts of each, I've yet to find anything useful, interesting and/or not boring. This alone would be fine for me to just read through without much of a problem, but the frequency and length of their posts was causing me to waste too much time on things that have yet to provide anything... well anything besides a waste of time.

The style is enervating.  I don't like anyone who makes me walk a mile for a drink of water; it's inconsiderate of the reader.

And yeah, on principle I hate ignoring someone, and I've only iggyed Jats here.  I've iggyed a couple of others on another website, but have ceased even that little bit of sanity since I was made a mod.

QuoteThe style is enervating. I don't like anyone who makes me walk a mile for a drink of water; it's inconsiderate of the reader.

"...wrong, one posts for oneself always, selfish I know, but selfless cannot be sustained in the run long, and one just becomes invisible to oneself that way..." replied the goblin, adding "...you see, readers ruin the writer in their expectations, for if I were to write as you suggest, you would be bored, more by those met expectations again than by anything that I might post contentwise...", and then the goblin had to ask "...yes, well I suppose I could lower the writing style and content somewhat Thumpalumpacus, so which poster's level are we talking about here, down to Davin's or right down to Poopshoot's then..."

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hahha this flea dude is nuckin futs.

maybe i'm just a dorky abstract junkie. but I like the goblin.

i think he cheefs on the low.

("...and I like you too TheWilliam..." replied the goblin then, adding "...for if you can imagine me doing this across fifty forums each night, where my email inbox is a jungle of notifications at times, you might understand why I enjoy this madness then, though taking on the atheists here is thanks to JATS here, since normally I battle trolls on their forums or writers on theirs, not much difference between them though...")

repost from elsewhere, in reply to that same old barb

QuoteI don't read your stuff

"...so I guess you're not reading this either..." ventured the goblin adding "...besides, if one actually makes a list of everything and everyone who doesn't read my posts, starting from basic inanimate objects like chairs, tables, doors, etc., perhaps leading on to animals like dogs, cats, chimps, etc., on to certain humans into facebook, twitter, or MTV, together with other humans who are either too young, stupid, illiterate, or senile, on up to you now, one soon sees just how great a loss that is to me..." in fact, the goblin never minded who didn't read his posts and ignored him, no he cared for those that could actually progress off that list then

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QuoteThe style is enervating. I don't like anyone who makes me walk a mile for a drink of water; it's inconsiderate of the reader.

"...wrong, one posts for oneself always, selfish I know, but selfless cannot be sustained in the run long, and one just becomes invisible to oneself that way..." replied the goblin, adding "...you see, readers ruin the writer in their expectations, for if I were to write as you suggest, you would be bored, more by those met expectations again than by anything that I might post contentwise...", and then the goblin had to ask "...yes, well I suppose I could lower the writing style and content somewhat Thumpalumpacus, so which poster's level are we talking about here, down to Davin's or right down to Poopshoot's then..."

Oh, you suffering artist, you!  No one understands you!  No one sees your genius!

Words are for communicating.  Anything that impedes communication should be jettisoned, including precious writing styles which only obfuscate the content.

Unless, of course, your style is more important than your content.

QuoteOh, you suffering artist, you! No one understands you! No one sees your genius! Words are for communicating. Anything that impedes communication should be jettisoned, including precious writing styles which only obfuscate the content. Unless, of course, your style is more important than your content.

"...well thump, if you mean by "suffering", those lameflame bots who are ever ignoring me so attentively now, I'll have to admit that I'm suffering in total silence from them MYAHAHAHAHAHAHA..." ventured the goblin, thinking on something else, adding "...but where do your words actually fit in to someone who is anonymous throughout, so try and connect the two then, and note how those words make no sense now, instead think "journey to self" perhaps, or "knowing oneself by what one posts" then...", in fact, the goblin's posts were all dead by the time he hit the post button but still he posted on now, yet his three goals remained

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Well, it is becoming more of a challenge to distinguish between a troll and those who choose to communicate circuitously, calling it an art form of some kind. Especially when those writers seem to revel in their writing martyrdom and wear it like a badge.

Any posts that serve no purpose but to purposely antagonize other members here are not in the general spirit of the Happy Atheist Forum, regardless of writing style. I hope that sentence is clear enough. If anyone's purpose is to obfuscate, irritate, antagonize, or otherwise simply tweak the figurative noses of others, I, and/or, the others mods ask that it stop.

I have no problem with people wanting to be creative. Although Live Writing is new to me, I don't have any real feeling on it one way or the other. But I'm starting to get one, and it isn't positive. So if all it is is a method to annoy the membership, I'll ask those who write in that style to keep from doing it if they are doing it only to elevate their own egos and denigrate those who don't use it.

In other words, don't be a pain in the ass just to be a pain in the ass. We have an entire section devoted to artistic and creative ideals. Have a blast with it. We learn new ways of expression and creativity all the time, and I'm happy to see something I've never seen before. There is no intolerance for writing style, only intolerance for for people wasting other peoples' time for their own enjoyment. Those people are forum trolls.

 I don't care what style you write in. Big Mac wasn't banned because of writing style. His style was very blunt and plain, and easy to read. He was banned because of the either worthless content or aggressive and antagonistic content, and attitude toward other members. Same will hold true for anyone here. I appreciate you all trying to understand that and keeping to this forum's guidelines and rules of civility. Thank you.

Quote from: "Thumpalumpacus"Words are for communicating.  Anything that impedes communication should be jettisoned, including precious writing styles which only obfuscate the content.

That is kind of harsh, I never did make it through Ulysses, but I accept it has value.
I might work it out one day.
I don't recall any great speeches delivered in point form.
Words are for whatever we can make of them.
Play with a ball, word, or chord, what's it matter?
Should we leave it to priests and politicians?

Quote from: "Thumpalumpacus"I forgot I had ignored Jats.

He still posts?

 

"...that's right, you heard the mod everyone, basically he was saying that you should let people write as they wish as long as they contents of their post was not offensive in nature..." went the goblin guessing that was what he meant even if the wording was probably not actually understood by most people now, continuing "...so I, for my part, do offer my sincerest apologies on behalf of the goblin fraternity and goblin's everywhere, hoping that by way of this goblin/human reconciliation here, once more peace could be restored across forumalnd, god bless you all then..."

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Quote from: "The Magic Pudding"

Quote from: "Thumpalumpacus"Words are for communicating.  Anything that impedes communication should be jettisoned, including precious writing styles which only obfuscate the content.

That is kind of harsh, I never did make it through Ulysses, but I accept it has value.
I might work it out one day.
I don't recall any great speeches delivered in point form.
Words are for whatever we can make of them.
Play with a ball, word, or chord, what's it matter?
Should we leave it to priests and politicians?

The difference is between telling a story and interacting with another person.

There's certainly room for artistry in the written word, but when one is communicating, allowing the artistry to overcome the message is rather self-defeating, don't you think?

I love metaphor, synecdoche, analogy, tone, rhythm, and all the other things that go into writing well as much as the next amateur who writes for pleasure.  The art lies in harnessing technique so that it assists the transmission of the message.  

Carts don't pull horses; they can only impede them.

QuoteThere's certainly room for artistry in the written word, but when one is communicating, allowing the artistry to overcome the message is rather self-defeating, don't you think? I love metaphor, synecdoche, analogy, tone, rhythm, and all the other things that go into writing well as much as the next amateur who writes for pleasure. The art lies in harnessing technique so that it assists the transmission of the message. Carts don't pull horses; they can only impede them.

"...and who is to judge which is horse and which is cart now..." asked the goblin knowing that if writing were to descend to it lowest level each time, most writer's wouldn't bother to write any more than readers would bother to read, continuing "...I'll repeat something again, the reader doesn't actually want what he expects from the author each time yet he still expects it, and any writer worth his salt plays on this, simply readers want more of the same where writers avoid that trap by keeping the reader in view but not heeding them..."

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QuoteThe style is enervating. I don't like anyone who makes me walk a mile for a drink of water; it's inconsiderate of the reader.

"...wrong, one posts for oneself always, selfish I know, but selfless cannot be sustained in the run long, and one just becomes invisible to oneself that way..." replied the goblin, adding "...you see, readers ruin the writer in their expectations, for if I were to write as you suggest, you would be bored, more by those met expectations again than by anything that I might post contentwise...", and then the goblin had to ask "...yes, well I suppose I could lower the writing style and content somewhat Thumpalumpacus, so which poster's level are we talking about here, down to Davin's or right down to Poopshoot's then..."

Isn't sockpuppetry against the rules?

Quote from: "McQ"Well, it is becoming more of a challenge to distinguish between a troll and those who choose to communicate circuitously, calling it an art form of some kind. Especially when those writers seem to revel in their writing martyrdom and wear it like a badge.

This is actually a good indicator of a troll by virtue of laying-bare their intentions.  Those who post for the sake of being persecuted are trolls.  Sock puppets are another dead giveaway.

Quote from: "McQ"Well, it is becoming more of a challenge to distinguish between a troll and those who choose to communicate circuitously, calling it an art form of some kind. Especially when those writers seem to revel in their writing martyrdom and wear it like a badge.

Any posts that serve no purpose but to purposely antagonize other members here are not in the general spirit of the Happy Atheist Forum, regardless of writing style. I hope that sentence is clear enough. If anyone's purpose is to obfuscate, irritate, antagonize, or otherwise simply tweak the figurative noses of others, I, and/or, the others mods ask that it stop.

I have no problem with people wanting to be creative. Although Live Writing is new to me, I don't have any real feeling on it one way or the other. But I'm starting to get one, and it isn't positive. So if all it is is a method to annoy the membership, I'll ask those who write in that style to keep from doing it if they are doing it only to elevate their own egos and denigrate those who don't use it.

In other words, don't be a pain in the ass just to be a pain in the ass. We have an entire section devoted to artistic and creative ideals. Have a blast with it. We learn new ways of expression and creativity all the time, and I'm happy to see something I've never seen before. There is no intolerance for writing style, only intolerance for for people wasting other peoples' time for their own enjoyment. Those people are forum trolls.

 I don't care what style you write in. Big Mac wasn't banned because of writing style. His style was very blunt and plain, and easy to read. He was banned because of the either worthless content or aggressive and antagonistic content, and attitude toward other members. Same will hold true for anyone here. I appreciate you all trying to understand that and keeping to this forum's guidelines and rules of civility. Thank you.

"...just playing catch up here, I think you had best look back and see as even to the untrained eye it was clear which two decided to elevate stating their opinion to putting the boot in, and using trolling methods that are oh so familiar, I however, have merely responded to posts aimed at me, or Flea now, in my own way of course, which I clearly asked in my welcome to be accepted for, or ignored, yet some can not, even though they kleep saying they are, and others may have a different opinion as yet not stated, for why should they say anything and risk the same treatment, and if they are allowed to continue then they who do read may learn some new ways of dealing with trolls, for we are well used to it, and the majority of my posts, as can be seen already, whatever you think of the style, are not for that use, but if they want to play, insist upon it (see above), there are plenty of posts in store that they may find relevant too then...let them make their choice then before you think on yours..." meanwhile the chameleon posts on regardless...

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Quote from: "The Magic Pudding"I don't recall any great speeches delivered in point form.

And how many speeches have you seen that were delivered in a form designed to intentionally obscure meaningful understanding of the point?

This.

QuoteIsn't sockpuppetry against the rules?

the goblin thanked Poopshoot for his somewhat amusing post and accusation that the goblin was some sort of sockpuppet, saying "...if you google my username, it runs into four pages, yahoo search it's eleven pages, and on facebook they say, though I can't see why because I'm don't there, I have something with seven million friends, hits, whatever addressed to me, whereas conversely if we google the username Poopshoot there is absolutely nothing anywhere that turns up something about that poster...", the goblin stopped, giving a little time to let it sink in, and then just continued "...so using this simple process, or spotcheck then, and knowing that identity can't be proven on this internet anyway, wouldn't the accuser here prefer to clear himself of his own accusation before he accuse me of it now...", in fact, the goblin had already agreed to let be here as requested by the mod, but just added one simply truth as something to think about, saying"...the reason why internet voting is not allowed is simply because "identity" cannot be proven, in effect we are all sockpuppets then, where photos, details and the like do not actually prove that we really are who we claim to be..."

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Quote from: "hismikeness"The weather changes from rainy to sunny to rainy in the course of one weekend.

Weekend?  Hell, around here it does that in one day.

Ha, same as down here ..
As well as cold to warm, to burning hot.

Quote from: "Thumpalumpacus"There's certainly room for artistry in the written word, but when one is communicating, allowing the artistry to overcome the message is rather self-defeating, don't you think?

Sometimes.
Depends if it's a motherboard manual or a Dr Suess book.

Quote from: "PoopShoot"And how many speeches have you seen that were delivered in a form designed to intentionally obscure meaningful understanding of the point?

Plenty, preachers, salesmen and politicians serve them up all the time.
I don't think these guys are trying to obscure understanding, it's just a side effect of their style.
I don't want to judge their worth, I haven't really come to a firm conclusion, don't know if I will.
Their posts are easy to skip or skim.

If I was to offer one piece of well meant advice, it would be cut back on the unappreciated artist stuff.

Speaking of annoying, THIS THREAD has become annoying.

Those two drive me insane.  

Quote from: "fleamailman""...and who is to judge which is horse and which is cart now..."

I am.  I'm your hoped-for audience.

Quote[...] asked the goblin knowing that if writing were to descend to it lowest level each time [...]

Explain why clarity is low.

Quote[...] most writer's wouldn't bother to write any more than readers would bother to read [...]

Explain romance fiction and its high sales.  Also, the apostrophe is extraneous.  Some writer!  [inB4 " I did that on purpose to tweak you"]

Quotecontinuing "...I'll repeat something again, the reader doesn't actually want what he expects from the author each time yet he still expects it [...]

Yes, I've come to expect having to sift a ton of dirt to find a solid bit of stone in your posts, not that I want to do so.

Quote[...] and any writer worth his salt plays on this, simply readers want more of the same where writers avoid that trap by keeping the reader in view but not heeding them...

I prefer to masturbate privately.

Full stops are your friend.

QuoteFull stops are your friend.

("...ah, someone from planet bingo, oh can I take your photo please, and how is queen victoria these days..." inquired the goblin now)

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QuoteThose two drive me insane.

"....not at all, I think thump and poopshoot are cool in fact and I like them, it's just one has to give them a bit more time to find their writing feet eventually..." mused the goblin knowing that on forums one was always going to meet posters who deluded themselves into thinking that they are that hoped for audience not heeding the previous made point, that "this goblin is anonymous here and only writes for himself", and who also would wish to reduce everything to some silly clarity here, which if anything couldn't be further from the truth about writing now, in that, since readers know its all fiction anyway, they give the writer leeway as long as the plot is gripping, for the last thing anyone wants is to turn up and be landed their own reality each time..."


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Quote from: "fleamailman"blah blah blah, yadda yadda yadda.

Which is exactly why i said full stops are your friend. Nothing you've written so far has made any sense.

By all means, carry on typing your nonsensical blitherings. I've not really wasted any time trying to decypher it.  

QuoteWhich is exactly why i said full stops are your friend. Nothing you've written so far has made any sense. By all means, carry on typing your nonsensical blitherings. I've not really wasted any time trying to decypher it.

"...yes, you're absolute right, reading is difficult, because all words, even the most simplest ones now, are representations here..." mentioned the goblin again, feeling that here really was a great chance to do his good deed of the day, adding "...but I'll tell you what, if you place a lone finger under each word in turn pronouncing the syllables slowly, you will be able to decipher words, honestly it's not that difficult, promise, but if not your could ask a friend, well, if you have one..."

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It's funny that you think I'm a neophyte writer conditioned by television.  By all means, nurture your illusions.

(the goblin confessed once more that he wasn't actually thinking of thump each time he posted, saying "...I simply said that you were finding your writing feet here...")

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Quotei cant figure it out... are you... sane?

"...you tell me then, in that I am replying to posters on this thread here, which seems sensible enough wouldn't you say, while they're replying to a questionably mad goblin for all their sanity here, which is um..., ..." ventured the goblin at it

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Please stop the bickering in here and take it to PMs. And to Flea and anyone else who feels they are being singaled out: you are, but not because of your style, but because you continue to act as if you are purposely trying to annoy other members and make issues that shouldn't exist. To those who don't enjoy that writing style, I can only suggest that you simply don't bother reading it.

It takes extra time to read, yes, but as long as there is content worth reading, then why not try? If the content is blather (which it won't be, because I know Flea, and Jat, like all members here, will respect the forum rules against spamming, trolling, etc), ignore it.

Regardless, stop the childish back and forth, please.

QuotePlease stop the bickering in here and take it to PMs. And to Flea and anyone else who feels they are being singaled out: you are, but not because of your style, but because you continue to act as if you are purposely trying to annoy other members and make issues that shouldn't exist. To those who don't enjoy that writing style, I can only suggest that you simply don't bother reading it.

"...I agree entirely, and I really do apologize once more about the other posters here in their somewhat unruly troll-like behavior towards me of late, where surely, have I not simply replied in my defense each time, and where understandably perhaps, it is only natural after all, that a certain degree of jealousy is bound to creep in here on their seeing these well thought out beautifully matched posts now, which I then unfortunately have to cast, like so many pearls perhaps, to those less fortunate who don't appreciate such art and penmanship combined together like this..." mentioned the goblin  "..so please McQ, can you find it in your heart to forgive them then, don't send them those PMs I beg of you now, for I have turned the other cheek towards them..."

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Quote from: "McQ"Please stop the bickering in here and take it to PMs. And to Flea and anyone else who feels they are being singaled out: you are, but not because of your style, but because you continue to act as if you are purposely trying to annoy other members and make issues that shouldn't exist. To those who don't enjoy that writing style, I can only suggest that you simply don't bother reading it.

It takes extra time to read, yes, but as long as there is content worth reading, then why not try? If the content is blather (which it won't be, because I know Flea, and Jat, like all members here, will respect the forum rules against spamming, trolling, etc), ignore it.

Regardless, stop the childish back and forth, please.

It's y'all's forum. If you're okay with this sort of shitposting, I suppose I can be as well.

eta:  As much as I hate putting anyone on ignore, I've done so, in order to avoid this in the future.

Quote from: "Thumpalumpacus"

Quote from: "McQ"Please stop the bickering in here and take it to PMs. And to Flea and anyone else who feels they are being singaled out: you are, but not because of your style, but because you continue to act as if you are purposely trying to annoy other members and make issues that shouldn't exist. To those who don't enjoy that writing style, I can only suggest that you simply don't bother reading it.

It takes extra time to read, yes, but as long as there is content worth reading, then why not try? If the content is blather (which it won't be, because I know Flea, and Jat, like all members here, will respect the forum rules against spamming, trolling, etc), ignore it.

Regardless, stop the childish back and forth, please.

It's y'all's forum. If you're okay with this sort of shitposting, I suppose I can be as well.

eta:  As much as I hate putting anyone on ignore, I've done so, in order to avoid this in the future.

Honestly, Thump, I meant it more as a suggestion, I'm not telling you what to do. I wouldn't want to put anyone on ignore either, and you shouldn't have to. I'm definitely not ok with shit posting, and I'm trying to make sure it doesn't continue. To that end, see my next post.

Quote from: "fleamailman"

QuotePlease stop the bickering in here and take it to PMs. And to Flea and anyone else who feels they are being singaled out: you are, but not because of your style, but because you continue to act as if you are purposely trying to annoy other members and make issues that shouldn't exist. To those who don't enjoy that writing style, I can only suggest that you simply don't bother reading it.

"...I agree entirely, and I really do apologize once more about the other posters here in their somewhat unruly troll-like behavior towards me of late, where surely, have I not simply replied in my defense each time, and where understandably perhaps, it is only natural after all, that a certain degree of jealousy is bound to creep in here on their seeing these well thought out beautifully matched posts now, which I then unfortunately have to cast, like so many pearls perhaps, to those less fortunate who don't appreciate such art and penmanship combined together like this..." mentioned the goblin  "..so please McQ, can you find it in your heart to forgive them then, don't send them those PMs I beg of you now, for I have turned the other cheek towards them..."

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Here's the deal, Flea. Since you seem to think this is a joke, and don't want to my very reasonable request seriously, I'm giving you a warning. Next time it earns you a one-week ban from the forum.

"...oh, but I do take you ever so serious now and sympathize with you entirely McQ, for am I not the wounded party here, so no I can understand the strain that they must be putting you through too, where I, for my part, and with the utmost of politesse of course, have merely defended myself to date, no, have I not been more than forthcoming in offering, those who have cared to address me that is, both informative explanations and encouragement throughout, in fact, if anything I feel that they should be thanking me now..." mentioned the goblin again, knowing that one day this great injustice would be rectified, and that all goblins, regardless of race creed or color, would be able to post on happyatheist forum with both dignity, pride, and equality now, adding "...so thank you for voting sarah palin then..."

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Quote from: "fleamailman""...oh, but I do take you ever so serious now and sympathize with you entirely McQ, for am I not the wounded party here, so no I can understand the strain that they must be putting you through too, where I, for my part, and with the utmost of politesse of course, have merely defended myself to date, no, have I not been more than forthcoming in offering, those who have cared to address me that is, both informative explanations and encouragement throughout, in fact, if anything I feel that they should be thanking me now..." mentioned the goblin again, knowing that one day this great injustice would be rectified, and that all goblins, regardless of race creed or color, would be able to post on happyatheist forum with both dignity, pride, and equality now, adding "...so thank you for voting sarah palin then..."

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One week ban. This has becoming nothing more than trolling by Flea.

QuoteIt's y'all's forum. If you're okay with this sort of shitposting, I suppose I can be as well.

eta:  As much as I hate putting anyone on ignore, I've done so, in order to avoid this in the future.

"...I see..." laughs Jats "...although he had seen clearly from day one, from the...er....welcome... "...so is this where I put forward an opinion and am accused of trolling too, whereas the above is not classed as trolling, or the post before that, and the plethora of posts before that is not, even the ones I have highlighted for your attention? Yes Thump is right its y'all's forum indeed and clearly we are not doing enough polotiking and lobbying here, you know how it goes you complain about it all the time when it happens in your 'daily life' yet fall into the same traps yourself on forum-land. How about a ban for those who keep saying they are ignoring when clearly they are doing nothing of the sort and just using this tactic in their trolling armoury, another dig, another sleight, a casual well designed throw away remark, how about a ban for the next one of those, or is it just a case of 'no opinion tolerated except ours' here..." Jats shakes his head in mock puzzlement "...see we are not ok with this kind of shit posting, and invited others to up their game and when some can't, especially as others have, then they complain and urge for the ban instead...yet its hard to see the patterns when you are in the thick of things, hard to realise how you are being manipulated, all that testosterone flying around, and only in retrospect that you see the trolls within, they are usually the one accusing everyone of everything else, but we see it time and time again and its easier to recognise, as we do here now, though one or two will have seen it now too..." as the chameleon finds another site in readiness now for there are as many forums on the Internet as there are stars in the night sky "...see if you ban us then as you will, looking for an excuse now for me too, all you have said to the theists is yes we are Atheists but we are human too..." as Jats settles down to the football now, hoping it won't be another game ruined by a shit referee

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Quote from: "McQ"One week ban. This has becoming nothing more than trolling by Flea.

You missed his other account.

Quote from: "PoopShoot"

Quote from: "McQ"One week ban. This has becoming nothing more than trolling by Flea.

You missed his other account.

I've decided that the odds of two people posting like that and not being sock accounts are low enough that I can assume they are the same person or are both needing of a one week ban anyway because I'm tired of this third person stuff that is barely readable.  If they had contained themselves to one thread it wouldn't have been an issue...but I'm going to trash that thread too.

Quote from: "Whitney"

Quote from: "PoopShoot"

Quote from: "McQ"One week ban. This has becoming nothing more than trolling by Flea.

You missed his other account.

I've decided that the odds of two people posting like that and not being sock accounts are low enough that I can assume they are the same person or are both needing of a one week ban anyway because I'm tired of this third person stuff that is barely readable.  If they had contained themselves to one thread it wouldn't have been an issue...but I'm going to trash that thread too.

 

Quote from: "Whitney"I've decided that the odds of two people posting like that and not being sock accounts are low enough that I can assume they are the same person or are both needing of a one week ban anyway because I'm tired of this third person stuff that is barely readable.  If they had contained themselves to one thread it wouldn't have been an issue...but I'm going to trash that thread too.

There is a post where jatz says he isn't flea, and says fleas post's originate from mainland Europe.
This sounded sus to me, I don't know where anyone's posting from, proxies aren't hard.
Jatz, wouldn't mind seeing you again.
Flea, they don't seem to like the crucifixion complex thing around here.

Quote from: "Whitney"I've decided that the odds of two people posting like that and not being sock accounts are low enough that I can assume they are the same person or are both needing of a one week ban anyway because I'm tired of this third person stuff that is barely readable.  If they had contained themselves to one thread it wouldn't have been an issue...but I'm going to trash that thread too.

Will you marry me?

Quote from: "Whitney"I've decided that the odds of two people posting like that and not being sock accounts are low enough that I can assume they are the same person or are both needing of a one week ban anyway because I'm tired of this third person stuff that is barely readable.  If they had contained themselves to one thread it wouldn't have been an issue...but I'm going to trash that thread too.

 :yay:  

Re Flea and Jats. I was kinda enjoying the creative style ... it's just a pity the content left a lot to be desired. It is a rare talent that can use so many words and yet say so little ...

Back to the topic now ...

The single most annoying thing for me is: negative people (or people that thrive on negativity).

Other than that ...

Taxi's annoy me,
Inflation annoys the s#!t out of me,
When religious people say things like "Obviously, God exists!",
When my chocolate covered spongecake melts in the wrapper - it's damn near impossible to get the chocolate and the spongecake out in one piece,
No social healthcare where I live, and
Bosses who don't understand that it takes as long as it takes.

When I'm busy editing, writing, researching, cooking, or taking a shower, and the power goes out. And why does this always seem to happen at night... when it's dark??? (sigh)

1. Some nimrod at a gun range has the target less than fifteen feet away from him and still manages to shoot the frame down
2. When there's a guy or multiple guys explaining EVERYTHING about guns to their girlfriends
3. An acquaintance (originally friend) at a Christian school constantly makes racist/homophobic/disturbing comments or "jokes"
4. When the same acqaintance makes homoerotic passes at me every day
5. When said acquaintance ruins every damn argument I ever like for atheists
6. When said acquaintance nitpicks everything anyone says, usually turning it into a racist/homophobic/disturbing/anime reference

Yeah, I have a lot of issues with this person

When I'm sitting quietly reading a good book (Shogan at the moment) and my other half asks if I'm alright! WTF! Do I have to read out loud or something! I'm reading a bloody book for Christ's sake! It's something one does sitting still and quietly!  ::)

Quote from: Tank on May 01, 2011, 08:40:31 AM
When I'm sitting quietly reading a good book (Shogan at the moment) and my other half asks if I'm alright! WTF! Do I have to read out loud or something! I'm reading a bloody book for Christ's sake! It's something one does sitting still and quietly!  ::)

That may be the problem.  When our cats are too still, we jostle them to make sure they're still alive.  They're quite old and it wouldn't totally surprise us if they did stop moving for a reason other than sleep one day.

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Quote from: Tank on May 01, 2011, 08:40:31 AM
When I'm sitting quietly reading a good book (Shogan at the moment) and my other half asks if I'm alright! WTF! Do I have to read out loud or something! I'm reading a bloody book for Christ's sake! It's something one does sitting still and quietly!  ::)

That may be the problem.  When our cats are too still, we jostle them to make sure they're still alive.  They're quite old and it wouldn't totally surprise us if they did stop moving for a reason other than sleep one day.

It's annoying when.....
Someone implies that somebody else is old, and that person is younger than me!

(Tank is two years younger than me.)

Quote from: TankWhen I'm sitting quietly reading a good book (Shogan at the moment) and my other half asks if I'm alright! WTF! Do I have to read out loud or something! I'm reading a bloody book for Christ's sake! It's something one does sitting still and quietly!

Jesus, yes. My housemates talk to me while I'm reading. It's got to the stage now where it's difficult to read because I know that, any second, I'm going to get interrupted. And at home it's even worse because my parents never leave me alone, even when I'm in my room.

Even if they have nothing to say, they'll still pester me to know what I'm doing,
Where are you going?
Why are you doing that?
Why are you going there?
Why don't you help me do some gardenning?
Why are you helping me do the gardenning?
Why don't you go make yourself something to eat?
What are you cooking?
Why are you cooking it?
Why don't you cook a lasagne instead?
Dan, you've being going off to read all day, why don't you do something else?

YES I've been going off to read all day. And I'm still on THE SAME FUCKING PAGE.

Being surrounded by people I don't want to be surrounded by. It's the most annoying thing these days.

Quote from: xSilverPhinx on May 05, 2011, 10:04:34 PM
Being surrounded by people I don't want to be surrounded by. It's the most annoying thing these days.

7,000,000,000 and counting, it's only going to get worse  :-[

Quote from: Tank on May 05, 2011, 10:07:40 PM

Quote from: xSilverPhinx on May 05, 2011, 10:04:34 PM
Being surrounded by people I don't want to be surrounded by. It's the most annoying thing these days.

7,000,000,000 and counting, it's only going to get worse  :-[

I was thinking more on the smaller scale IRL...for now.  :oBut yeah, soon the human population might stabilise at a point where we're all fighting tooth and claw for miminal prison cell sized space.

Quote from: hismikeness on September 30, 2010, 02:26:27 AM
I can't describe the irrational anger that comes from my annoyance when the little tab on my pants' zipper gets pointed straight down into the fold of the fly and I have to pry it out. For fuck's sake, it's 2010, can we fix that at least. Seriously, I get fuming mad.

God damn right

Quote from: Will37 on May 06, 2011, 06:42:28 AM

Quote from: hismikeness on September 30, 2010, 02:26:27 AM
I can't describe the irrational anger that comes from my annoyance when the little tab on my pants' zipper gets pointed straight down into the fold of the fly and I have to pry it out. For fuck's sake, it's 2010, can we fix that at least. Seriously, I get fuming mad.

God damn right

Bwahaha.  This cracks me up.

Also, cows.  I don't know what it is about them but I fucking hate cows. 

Quote from: Will37 on May 07, 2011, 02:24:43 AM
Also, cows.  I don't know what it is about them but I fucking hate cows. 

Speaking of cows... my Dad's driving on long trips when I was growing up bothered me.  It was always about making good time, so he was quite the leadfoot.  I was 10 before I realized cows weren't blurry.

It's annoying when people call me gay. It's not an insult, and I'm not offended, but when you think calling me gay hurts me, it's actually hurting my gay or lesbian friends.

Anyone else with this problem?

Quote from: Cooper20 on May 07, 2011, 03:42:08 AM
but when you think calling me gay hurts me, it's actually hurting my gay or lesbian friends.

Well, it was nothing personal. 



I have not been called gay since middle school but a gay guy at a party did tell me he thought I was handsome.  Needless to say I was flattered.  I never understood why homophobes got so flustered when gays hit on them.  A complement is a complement.  My only guess is that the anger comes in response to that gnawing recognition that they like the attention of another man a little *too* much for their own comfort.  :o  But I digress

Quote from: Will37 on May 07, 2011, 12:01:50 PM

Quote from: Cooper20 on May 07, 2011, 03:42:08 AM
but when you think calling me gay hurts me, it's actually hurting my gay or lesbian friends.

Well, it was nothing personal. 



I have not been called gay since middle school but a gay guy at a party did tell me he thought I was handsome.  Needless to say I was flattered.  I never understood why homophobes got so flustered when gays hit on them.  A complement is a complement.  My only guess is that the anger comes in response to that gnawing recognition that they like the attention of another man a little *too* much for their own comfort.  :o  But I digress

I have had similar experiences, re: your complimenting  interlocutor , and I thoroughly agree.  I could never understand why guys get so flustered.  I would always point out to others that if they truly were made uncomfortable by the attention, they should keep that mind the next time they hit on a woman.

Quote from: The Black Jester on May 07, 2011, 12:07:06 PM

Quote from: Will37 on May 07, 2011, 12:01:50 PM

Quote from: Cooper20 on May 07, 2011, 03:42:08 AM
but when you think calling me gay hurts me, it's actually hurting my gay or lesbian friends.

Well, it was nothing personal. 



I have not been called gay since middle school but a gay guy at a party did tell me he thought I was handsome.  Needless to say I was flattered.  I never understood why homophobes got so flustered when gays hit on them.  A complement is a complement.  My only guess is that the anger comes in response to that gnawing recognition that they like the attention of another man a little *too* much for their own comfort.  :o  But I digress

I have had similar experiences, re: your complimenting  interlocutor , and I thoroughly agree.  I could never understand why guys get so flustered.  I would always point out to others that if they truly were made uncofortable by the attention, they should keep that mind the next time they hit on a woman.

Well, I come from the American South which is somewhat more conservative.  So if a gay guy initiated physical contact with me I would be somewhat uncomfortable.  But I'm also uncomfortable when a woman I'm not famaliar with initiates physical contact and I'm not expecting it.  So I can understand it in that sense.  But some guys have a viceral reaction to a gay man simply trying to flirt with them and it really seems to come from some deeper insecurity about their heterosexuality.

Quote from: Will37 on May 07, 2011, 12:26:01 PM

Quote from: The Black Jester on May 07, 2011, 12:07:06 PM

Quote from: Will37 on May 07, 2011, 12:01:50 PM

Quote from: Cooper20 on May 07, 2011, 03:42:08 AM
but when you think calling me gay hurts me, it's actually hurting my gay or lesbian friends.

Well, it was nothing personal. 



I have not been called gay since middle school but a gay guy at a party did tell me he thought I was handsome.  Needless to say I was flattered.  I never understood why homophobes got so flustered when gays hit on them.  A complement is a complement.  My only guess is that the anger comes in response to that gnawing recognition that they like the attention of another man a little *too* much for their own comfort.  :o  But I digress

I have had similar experiences, re: your complimenting  interlocutor , and I thoroughly agree.  I could never understand why guys get so flustered.  I would always point out to others that if they truly were made uncofortable by the attention, they should keep that mind the next time they hit on a woman.

Well, I come from the American South which is somewhat more conservative.  So if a gay guy initiated physical contact with me I would be somewhat uncomfortable.  But I'm also uncomfortable when a woman I'm not famaliar with initiates physical contact and I'm not expecting it.  So I can understand it in that sense.  But some guys have a viceral reaction to a gay man simply trying to flirt with them and it really seems to come from some deeper insecurity about their heterosexuality.

I'm English, and almost stereotypically reserved! I also grew up during a time when homophobia was not only considered acceptable, but often openly encouraged by the very people who should be setting a better example, such as teachers. I have said elsewhere that I have been "tainted by homophobia", in itself not shameful, but I try hard not to react thoughtlessly, which would be.
So I can understand straight men being flustered, but, like you, I think the aggression comes from fear.

I don't think it's necessarily a discomfort with their own heterosexuality that makes some straight men get pissed when a gay guy hits on them.  In many cases, it's cultural indoctrination.  Think of it this way.  I hate broccoli.  It's not that I just prefer not to have it.  I start feeling ill when I smell it.  If I try to eat broccoli, I sometimes even throw up.  If someone tied me down to a chair and force-fed me broccoli, I'd be extremely pissed at them.  I wouldn't be pissed at them due to the uncomfortable situation of realizing that I have a secret affection for broccoli at the level that scares me.  I would be pissed at them because broccoli makes me sick.

I know where I grew up, there was a great deal of peer pressure to be homophobic.  Gay jokes were the norm.  Guys in my hometown developed a very real disdain for homosexuality.  The stigma wasn't just a religious one, but also a very visual one.  Most people are followers.  Most people will assimilate an idea if it's beaten into them enough by social pressure.  The thought of homosexuality was enough to actually make me sick to my stomach.  Fear that I might have some hidden homosexual desires wasn't anywhere in the neighborhood of a driving force in my homophobia. 

There are a lot of things I did and said in my previous "born again" life.  I hate the idea that things I said may have scarred some in-the-closet homosexuals, or to minorities and atheists.  While I never said anything mean to an out-of-the-closet homosexual, I have no doubt there were some in the closet that I said horrible things to.  I can't take back anything that I did or said, so the only thing I can do is try to not just live now, but to actually fight the good fight by educating and supporting gay/minority rights and religious freedom organizations.

I grew up in a very sheltered, racist, religious town.  It took me years to get rid of homophobia, racism, or religion.  Indoctrination can be a very difficult thing to shake.  Of course, this is why it is important to have the education in public schools that many religious people and Fox News are fighting, such as early education that homosexuality is not something that should be bullied.

Also, Dane Cook.

Might have been said before, but it's annoying when people say that everything happens for a reason.

I also find Russian's verbal aspects annoying. 

Donald Trump opens his mouth

I find newscasters to be very annoying.

Quote from: DaveD on May 07, 2011, 02:49:19 PM

Quote from: Will37 on May 07, 2011, 12:26:01 PM

Quote from: The Black Jester on May 07, 2011, 12:07:06 PM

Quote from: Will37 on May 07, 2011, 12:01:50 PM

Quote from: Cooper20 on May 07, 2011, 03:42:08 AM
but when you think calling me gay hurts me, it's actually hurting my gay or lesbian friends.

Well, it was nothing personal. 



I have not been called gay since middle school but a gay guy at a party did tell me he thought I was handsome.  Needless to say I was flattered.  I never understood why homophobes got so flustered when gays hit on them.  A complement is a complement.  My only guess is that the anger comes in response to that gnawing recognition that they like the attention of another man a little *too* much for their own comfort.  :o  But I digress

I have had similar experiences, re: your complimenting  interlocutor , and I thoroughly agree.  I could never understand why guys get so flustered.  I would always point out to others that if they truly were made uncofortable by the attention, they should keep that mind the next time they hit on a woman.

Well, I come from the American South which is somewhat more conservative.  So if a gay guy initiated physical contact with me I would be somewhat uncomfortable.  But I'm also uncomfortable when a woman I'm not famaliar with initiates physical contact and I'm not expecting it.  So I can understand it in that sense.  But some guys have a viceral reaction to a gay man simply trying to flirt with them and it really seems to come from some deeper insecurity about their heterosexuality.

I'm English, and almost stereotypically reserved! I also grew up during a time when homophobia was not only considered acceptable, but often openly encouraged by the very people who should be setting a better example, such as teachers. I have said elsewhere that I have been "tainted by homophobia", in itself not shameful, but I try hard not to react thoughtlessly, which would be.
So I can understand straight men being flustered, but, like you, I think the aggression comes from fear.

video response (from the film a single man)
http://youtu.be/nMoOuls0pcI

And then there's this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_panic_defense

http://www.google.com.au/search?q=murder+defence+homosexual+advance&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

I wonder what other wonderful defenses could be inspired by this?
He asked if I wanted fries with that, I had to kill him, fries are high in cholesterol, it was self defense.
He had a stupid wig on and chunky gold jewelery, I felt so dirty, I had to kill him.
She put Brussels sprouts on my plate, what else could I do?