Title: Interested in debating theists via skype (3 debates added!)
Post by: yuriythebest on September 27, 2010, 03:12:39 PM
Post by: yuriythebest on September 27, 2010, 03:12:39 PM
As the title suggests, I'm interested in passing the time in some friendly debates with theists (can be anything from hard core Christian to deist to Muslim to Misc.). Conversations will be recorded for further review and will be posted on this thread. If you are a friendly person add me to your skype: yuriythebest1 and we'll chat - maybe you'll even change my mind 
recorded debates:
Warren Meroney
DEBATES 1,2 (120mb)
zshare.net/download/80839942ce2ba2d2/
Debate 3 with Warren!
You can now listen directly Without downloading
http://www.zshare.net/audio/809119165023eb69/ (http://www.zshare.net/audio/809119165023eb69/)
recorded debates:
Warren Meroney
DEBATES 1,2 (120mb)
zshare.net/download/80839942ce2ba2d2/
Debate 3 with Warren!
You can now listen directly Without downloading
http://www.zshare.net/audio/809119165023eb69/ (http://www.zshare.net/audio/809119165023eb69/)
Title: Re: Interested in debating theists via skype (2 debates adde
Post by: Whitney on September 27, 2010, 04:15:24 PM
Post by: Whitney on September 27, 2010, 04:15:24 PM
yuriythebest, welcome to HAF.
Since you are new and we have had people posted malicious downloads before I'll ask that you either wait to establish yourself before offering files for downloads so that people can feel a bit safer downloading them or that you upload them as podcasts or embed them online into a player so we don't have to download a .rar file in order to hear them.
Since you are new and we have had people posted malicious downloads before I'll ask that you either wait to establish yourself before offering files for downloads so that people can feel a bit safer downloading them or that you upload them as podcasts or embed them online into a player so we don't have to download a .rar file in order to hear them.
Title: Re: Interested in debating theists via skype (2 debates adde
Post by: yuriythebest on September 27, 2010, 05:10:33 PM
Post by: yuriythebest on September 27, 2010, 05:10:33 PM
hi! Indeed I have done this at first and posted on soundcloud.com
however, there free accounts are limited to 2 hours of total audio and I went beyond that so only 1 of 4 of my audio tracks now shows:
http://soundcloud.com/yuriythebest/ (http://soundcloud.com/yuriythebest/)
however, there free accounts are limited to 2 hours of total audio and I went beyond that so only 1 of 4 of my audio tracks now shows:
http://soundcloud.com/yuriythebest/ (http://soundcloud.com/yuriythebest/)
Title: Re: Interested in debating theists via skype (2 debates adde
Post by: yuriythebest on September 29, 2010, 09:57:01 AM
Post by: yuriythebest on September 29, 2010, 09:57:01 AM
Debate 3 with Warren!
You can now listen directly Without downloading
http://www.zshare.net/audio/809119165023eb69/ (http://www.zshare.net/audio/809119165023eb69/)
You can now listen directly Without downloading
http://www.zshare.net/audio/809119165023eb69/ (http://www.zshare.net/audio/809119165023eb69/)
Title: Re: Interested in debating theists via skype (3 debates adde
Post by: yuriythebest on September 30, 2010, 04:04:03 PM
Post by: yuriythebest on September 30, 2010, 04:04:03 PM
by the way I'd like some advice about debating Warren - in Debate3 he admitted that his logic is circular and to the definition that faith is "irrational belief without reason" - however he then goes on to say that's a GOOD thing and that being rational to make your choices is also circular in a way as he has faith because he has faith because he has faith since being logical/rational/etc to confirm your logic/rationality is also circular in a way. any advice how to go against that?
Title: Re: Interested in debating theists via skype (3 debates adde
Post by: DropLogic on September 30, 2010, 08:10:29 PM
Post by: DropLogic on September 30, 2010, 08:10:29 PM
Quote from: "yuriythebest"by the way I'd like some advice about debating Warren - in Debate3 he admitted that his logic is circular and to the definition that faith is "irrational belief without reason" - however he then goes on to say that's a GOOD thing and that being rational to make your choices is also circular in a way as he has faith because he has faith because he has faith since being logical/rational/etc to confirm your logic/rationality is also circular in a way. any advice how to go against that?There's no such thing as good irrationality...
You can't argue with it because it is circular.
Basically, don't try to argue crazy.
Title: Re: Interested in debating theists via skype (3 debates adde
Post by: radicalaggrivation on September 30, 2010, 11:22:26 PM
Post by: radicalaggrivation on September 30, 2010, 11:22:26 PM
Quote from: "yuriythebest"by the way I'd like some advice about debating Warren - in Debate3 he admitted that his logic is circular and to the definition that faith is "irrational belief without reason" - however he then goes on to say that's a GOOD thing and that being rational to make your choices is also circular in a way as he has faith because he has faith because he has faith since being logical/rational/etc to confirm your logic/rationality is also circular in a way. any advice how to go against that?
Circular reasoning is a well known and wholly discredited logical fallacy. If the crux of his argument is that rational thought is circular, he is simply trying to equate logical thought with his superstition based reasoning. To dismiss this argument simply point out that he is limited to the few elements of his circular reasoning. He also forfeits all of his intellectual credibility by relying on this type of fallacy. You on the other hand can draw from many resources for you reasoning. You do not need one or two elements alone. You can introduce history, science, and common sense into your argument, without needing to limit yourself in the same way that he has. So, no. Your reason is not circular in anyway because you can introduce evidence and arguments outside of your cor
e reasoning. Direct him to look up circular reasoning so that he can understand why admitting to this relinquishment of logic has already lost him the debate.
Title: Re: Interested in debating theists via skype (3 debates adde
Post by: Whitney on October 01, 2010, 12:43:44 AM
Post by: Whitney on October 01, 2010, 12:43:44 AM
Quote from: "yuriythebest"by the way I'd like some advice about debating Warren - in Debate3 he admitted that his logic is circular and to the definition that faith is "irrational belief without reason" - however he then goes on to say that's a GOOD thing and that being rational to make your choices is also circular in a way as he has faith because he has faith because he has faith since being logical/rational/etc to confirm your logic/rationality is also circular in a way. any advice how to go against that?
I think I'd tell him that I am not interested in seriously entertaining the idea that faith is a good way of discovering facts and bid him a good day