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General => Science => Topic started by: karadan on September 16, 2010, 01:07:28 PM

Title: Anyone here good at physics?
Post by: karadan on September 16, 2010, 01:07:28 PM
So I was bored at work and looking at random stuff when I came across this:


[youtube:3r2ex9xk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8qvSNkiB9M[/youtube:3r2ex9xk]


[youtube:3r2ex9xk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yID01RjBzDE[/youtube:3r2ex9xk]


Firstly, what is it and secondly, what is its application, if any?

There's a lot of guff on youtube, I know, but free energy? I wish I was better versed with physics but I'm simply unable to grasp many concepts. I want to know your thoughts on the possibility of radically different energy sources and their viability, if any. Is there any truth to the water powered car, for instance, and do some technologies exist which could take down the oil companies over night?

I've never really paid much attention to stuff like this because it has always seemed to be as far-fetched as most other conspiracy theories. It is very intriguing, though.

Thoughts please :)
Title: Re: Anyone here good at physics?
Post by: Tank on September 16, 2010, 02:35:26 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Searl (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Searl) Searl Effect Generator
Title: Re: Anyone here good at physics?
Post by: Tank on September 16, 2010, 02:51:01 PM
[youtube:cxpvvg4z]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-O7WNvKSvY[/youtube:cxpvvg4z]

[youtube:cxpvvg4z]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46gRnzI2os0[/youtube:cxpvvg4z]
Title: Re: Anyone here good at physics?
Post by: Tank on September 16, 2010, 02:54:40 PM
He has a website http://www.searlsolution.com/ (http://www.searlsolution.com/)
Title: Re: Anyone here good at physics?
Post by: karadan on September 16, 2010, 02:57:30 PM
So how is he slowing it down if he is not feeding power to it, or is it supposed to give out more power than is fed into it?  :)
Title: Re: Anyone here good at physics?
Post by: SSY on September 16, 2010, 03:49:16 PM
Quote from: "karadan"So how is he slowing it down if he is not feeding power to it, or is it supposed to give out more power than is fed into it?  :)

The idea is, that the device takes heat from the air and uses it to power the rotational motion. Unfortunately, as Mr Carnot would tell you, you cant dump heat into a higher temperature reservoir, in part because it would violate our old friend, the second law. Not that the device is even explained enough that this point is made explicitly.

The reason he wears graduation robes is because he's a fucking quack, and is trying to lend himself an air of authority, like the women at a makeup counter wearing white coats. Those robes don't even look like any robes I ever saw, though the Tudor bonnet is a nice touch.

Also, the water car thing, no I'm afraid. It takes energy to break the O-H bond, not the other way round. Interestingly, the other way round, as in O and H forming water, is how hydrogen fuel cells work. As a general rule, making atomic bonds releases energy.
Title: Re: Anyone here good at physics?
Post by: karadan on September 16, 2010, 03:57:36 PM
Thanks SSY. He did look rather dubious in those robes.  lol
Title: Re: Anyone here good at physics?
Post by: Asmodean on September 16, 2010, 05:55:58 PM
Quote from: "SSY"Also, the water car thing, no I'm afraid. It takes energy to break the O-H bond, not the other way round. Interestingly, the other way round, as in O and H forming water, is how hydrogen fuel cells work. As a general rule, making atomic bonds releases energy.
Problem there being largely that it takes more energy to produce hydrogen than you utilize by burning it.
Title: Re: Anyone here good at physics?
Post by: SSY on September 16, 2010, 09:01:29 PM
Quote from: "Asmodean"
Quote from: "SSY"Also, the water car thing, no I'm afraid. It takes energy to break the O-H bond, not the other way round. Interestingly, the other way round, as in O and H forming water, is how hydrogen fuel cells work. As a general rule, making atomic bonds releases energy.
Problem there being largely that it takes more energy to produce hydrogen than you utilize by burning it.

Indeed, the hydrogen produces benefits in that it (locally) produces no emission of nasty pollutants. I am betting hydrogen fuel cells will become the normal power source for vehicle eventually, especially if electricity gets cheaper (come on fusion).