Title: Scientists possibly located the "Gay Gene"
Post by: none123 on July 25, 2010, 01:25:58 AM
Post by: none123 on July 25, 2010, 01:25:58 AM
I found this article, surprising on Fox News: http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/07/15/have-scientists-found-gay-gene/
I hope studies like this that show it is genetic, will get religious nuts to quit saying homosexuality is a choice, you aren't born with it, and that it is sinning.
Quote...A group of Korean geneticists has altered the sexual preferences of female mice by removing a single gene linked to reproductive behavior. Without the gene, the mice gravitated toward mice of the same sex. Those mice who retained the gene, called FucM, were attracted to male mice. (FucM is short for fucose mutarotase.)
The geneticists' study, published last week in the journal BMC Genetics explains that female mice without FucM avoided male mice, declined to sniff male urine, and made passes at other females.
Lead author Chankyu Park, of the Korea Advanced Institute of Science and Technology in South Korea, says this shows the absence of FucM tricks female mouse brains into functioning like male brains. "The mutant female mouse underwent a slightly altered developmental program in the brain to resemble the male brain in terms of sexual preference," he told the London Telegraph.
Park said he now wants to research whether this finding has any relevance for humans...
I hope studies like this that show it is genetic, will get religious nuts to quit saying homosexuality is a choice, you aren't born with it, and that it is sinning.
Title: Re: Scientists possibly located the "Gay Gene"
Post by: Tanker on July 25, 2010, 02:01:56 AM
Post by: Tanker on July 25, 2010, 02:01:56 AM
Quote from: "none123"I found this article, surprising on Fox News:I got that far and stopped if Fox News is reporting it I'm not listening untill the scientific community starts reporting it.
Title: Re: Scientists possibly located the "Gay Gene"
Post by: none123 on July 25, 2010, 02:15:08 AM
Post by: none123 on July 25, 2010, 02:15:08 AM
I don't blame you, they are terrible, it is the only newspage we have access to on work computers. I followed it to it's source though:
http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2010-07/has-gay-gene-been-found-female-mice
http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2010-07/has-gay-gene-been-found-female-mice
Title: Re: Scientists possibly located the "Gay Gene"
Post by: Squid on July 25, 2010, 03:10:02 AM
Post by: Squid on July 25, 2010, 03:10:02 AM
The provisional article is available from BMC Genetics (an open source, peer-reviewed online journal):
http://www.biomedcentral.com/1471-2156/11/62
http://www.biomedcentral.com/1471-2156/11/62
Title: Re: Scientists possibly located the "Gay Gene"
Post by: KebertX on July 25, 2010, 04:50:19 AM
Post by: KebertX on July 25, 2010, 04:50:19 AM
Religion fights science, it doesn't incorporate it. Do you realize how hard they were fighting in Galileo's day just to keep people believing that Earth was the center of the Universe? That is an attitude that has never changed. They show the same militant attitude with refuting Evolution. I highly doubt they would give up on all the bits of the bible that condemn homosexuality just because of irrefutable evidence that it's genetic (i.e. God's own damn fault).
I've been hearing about the individual discoveries of the gay gene for years. It always gets buried. I'm in fact more interested that this is coming from FOX News: It means even the right wing nut-jobs are finding the evidence irrefutable!
I've been hearing about the individual discoveries of the gay gene for years. It always gets buried. I'm in fact more interested that this is coming from FOX News: It means even the right wing nut-jobs are finding the evidence irrefutable!
Title: Re: Scientists possibly located the "Gay Gene"
Post by: Whitney on July 25, 2010, 04:58:45 AM
Post by: Whitney on July 25, 2010, 04:58:45 AM
Quote from: "none123"I hope studies like this that show it is genetic, will get religious nuts to quit saying homosexuality is a choice, you aren't born with it, and that it is sinning.
Almost every human is born with a genetic urge to have sex after reaching puberty yet many Christians still try to claim that choosing to acknowledge out sexuality is a sin.
Title: Re: Scientists possibly located the "Gay Gene"
Post by: Tank on July 25, 2010, 08:50:57 AM
Post by: Tank on July 25, 2010, 08:50:57 AM
The Gay Gene is called 'FucM' and this is not an April 1st Joke!
Title: Re: Scientists possibly located the "Gay Gene"
Post by: Squid on July 25, 2010, 06:50:12 PM
Post by: Squid on July 25, 2010, 06:50:12 PM
Quote from: "Tank"The Gay Gene is called 'FucM' and this is not an April 1st Joke!
Yep and fucose unknown is abbreviated "FucU" - no joke.
Title: Re: Scientists possibly located the "Gay Gene"
Post by: Tank on July 25, 2010, 07:35:37 PM
Post by: Tank on July 25, 2010, 07:35:37 PM
Quote from: "Squid"Would you credit it, scientists with a sense of humour.Quote from: "Tank"The Gay Gene is called 'FucM' and this is not an April 1st Joke!
Yep and fucose unknown is abbreviated "FucU" - no joke.
Title: Re: Scientists possibly located the "Gay Gene"
Post by: Byronazriel on September 03, 2010, 06:35:09 AM
Post by: Byronazriel on September 03, 2010, 06:35:09 AM
I hope this doesn't lead to parents aborting their kids, and various "cures"...
I see nothing wrong with homosexuality, as a matter of fact from my point of view it is hardly any different than heterosexuality.
I am asexual, sex in general makes me uncomfortable... But I firmly believe that people should be able to love, and be attacted to whomever they want. That's their business. And as long as any machinitions that arise are between consenting adults then they're well within their rights.
If I ever have kids, I wouldn't care what their sexuality was as long as they acted on those desires safely and concentually.
I see nothing wrong with homosexuality, as a matter of fact from my point of view it is hardly any different than heterosexuality.
I am asexual, sex in general makes me uncomfortable... But I firmly believe that people should be able to love, and be attacted to whomever they want. That's their business. And as long as any machinitions that arise are between consenting adults then they're well within their rights.
If I ever have kids, I wouldn't care what their sexuality was as long as they acted on those desires safely and concentually.
Title: Re: Scientists possibly located the "Gay Gene"
Post by: MilkyWay on September 18, 2010, 05:45:54 PM
Post by: MilkyWay on September 18, 2010, 05:45:54 PM
Quote from: "Byronazriel"I hope this doesn't lead to parents aborting their kids, and various "cures"...
I see nothing wrong with homosexuality, as a matter of fact from my point of view it is hardly any different than heterosexuality.
I am asexual, sex in general makes me uncomfortable... But I firmly believe that people should be able to love, and be attacted to whomever they want. That's their business. And as long as any machinitions that arise are between consenting adults then they're well within their rights.
If I ever have kids, I wouldn't care what their sexuality was as long as they acted on those desires safely and concentually.
I agree with you Byron.
Title: Re: Scientists possibly located the "Gay Gene"
Post by: Will on September 18, 2010, 06:18:49 PM
Post by: Will on September 18, 2010, 06:18:49 PM
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Title: Re: Scientists possibly located the "Gay Gene"
Post by: wildfire_emissary on September 21, 2010, 09:42:49 AM
Post by: wildfire_emissary on September 21, 2010, 09:42:49 AM
Reminds me of Posilac.
Title: Re: Scientists possibly located the "Gay Gene"
Post by: karadan on September 21, 2010, 12:39:25 PM
Post by: karadan on September 21, 2010, 12:39:25 PM
Quote from: "Squid"Quote from: "Tank"The Gay Gene is called 'FucM' and this is not an April 1st Joke!
Yep and fucose unknown is abbreviated "FucU" - no joke.
Title: Re: Scientists possibly located the "Gay Gene"
Post by: dloubet on September 21, 2010, 10:20:19 PM
Post by: dloubet on September 21, 2010, 10:20:19 PM
I wonder what would happen if stem-cell research could pave the way for a gay cure.
Paradox!
Ugh. Even barely thinking like a religionist for only a moment makes me want to wash my brain.
Paradox!
Ugh. Even barely thinking like a religionist for only a moment makes me want to wash my brain.
Title: Re: Scientists possibly located the "Gay Gene"
Post by: Tank on September 23, 2010, 11:43:18 AM
Post by: Tank on September 23, 2010, 11:43:18 AM
Quote from: "dloubet"I wonder what would happen if stem-cell research could pave the way for a gay cure.See Eugenics thread viewtopic.php?p=82165#p82165 (http://www.happyatheistforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=82165#p82165) Who and how would the 'ideal' human be decided upon?
Paradox!
Ugh. Even barely thinking like a religionist for only a moment makes me want to wash my brain.
Title: Re: Scientists possibly located the "Gay Gene"
Post by: karadan on September 23, 2010, 03:11:47 PM
Post by: karadan on September 23, 2010, 03:11:47 PM
Quote from: "Tank"Quote from: "dloubet"I wonder what would happen if stem-cell research could pave the way for a gay cure.See Eugenics thread viewtopic.php?p=82165#p82165 (http://www.happyatheistforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=82165#p82165) Who and how would the 'ideal' human be decided upon?
Paradox!
Ugh. Even barely thinking like a religionist for only a moment makes me want to wash my brain.
Random world-wide ballot. A figurehead is chosen and makes the decisions for a year before getting superseeded by the next random figurehead.
This way, each year, all babies born are pretty damn different from the previous year's versions.
That'd be fair
Title: Re: Scientists possibly located the "Gay Gene"
Post by: MilkyWay on September 27, 2010, 06:31:45 AM
Post by: MilkyWay on September 27, 2010, 06:31:45 AM
Quote from: "karadan"Quote from: "Tank"Quote from: "dloubet"I wonder what would happen if stem-cell research could pave the way for a gay cure.See Eugenics thread viewtopic.php?p=82165#p82165 (http://www.happyatheistforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=82165#p82165) Who and how would the 'ideal' human be decided upon?
Paradox!
Ugh. Even barely thinking like a religionist for only a moment makes me want to wash my brain.
Random world-wide ballot. A figurehead is chosen and makes the decisions for a year before getting superseeded by the next random figurehead.
This way, each year, all babies born are pretty damn different from the previous year's versions.
That'd be fair
Sounds barbaric, if a parent was deciding for the baby not to have a disease, that's one thing. But, homosexuality isn't a disease. I didn't want to know what sex my son was before the birth, I don't see his sexuality as being an issue one way or the other. If he's gay then he's gay, if he's hetro then he's hetro. Makes no difference to me. I wouldn't allow anyone to tamper with my baby unless it was a life or death situation.