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General => Current Events => Topic started by: Sophus on July 12, 2010, 02:37:15 AM

Title: Christian Legal Society v. Martinez
Post by: Sophus on July 12, 2010, 02:37:15 AM
http://www.daylightatheism.org/2010/07/christianist-professor-calls-for-religious-mccarthyism.html

QuoteDeparting Justice John Paul Stevens summed up the issue at hand in his concurrence, in a praiseworthy reminder that religiously inspired bigotry is no different than any other kind of bigotry...

I got a news alert directing me to this column, by Mike Adams on the ultra-right-wing site Townhall. As you'd expect, he's furious that the government won't cooperate in spreading his prejudice, and he's threatening to do something about it:

"...when I get back to the secular university in August, I plan to round up the students I know who are most hostile to atheism. Then I'm going to get them to help me find atheist-haters willing to join atheist student groups across the South. I plan to use my young fundamentalist Christian warriors to undermine the mission of every group that disagrees with me on the existence of God.

That means an invading group can turn a smaller, weaker group into second class citizens on campus. That's what I intend to do to those groups who do not believe in God.

I do not seek robust debate. I seek power over the godless heathen dissident."

This man works at a University. I bet it's not long until he gets the boot but still... kinda scary.
Title: Re: Christian Legal Society v. Martinez
Post by: Thumpalumpacus on July 12, 2010, 07:22:20 AM
I've been debating with others elsewhere whether this is a troll or not.  I don't think it is; I believe the patina of satire was overlaid in order to figleaf his desires, as they appear in his other posts.
Title: Re: Christian Legal Society v. Martinez
Post by: Sophus on July 12, 2010, 07:55:33 AM
Very, very possible. I'm going to fall back on Poe's law.  :crazy:  There are so many nutjobs out there I don't know who's serious anymore.

EDIT: Looking through his other articles now, you're right. Although I still think he's quite crazy. He wrote a whole book mocking feminists and his first post tried to equivalate LGBT groups to NAMBLA.
Title: Re: Christian Legal Society v. Martinez
Post by: The Magic Pudding on July 12, 2010, 11:11:36 AM
QuoteI do not seek robust debate. I seek power over the godless heathen dissident."

I don't think he deserves debate, just ridicule and laughter.
These types are used to having power over the gullible.
It’s not so easy to achieve power over people who can think for themselves.
Title: Re: Christian Legal Society v. Martinez
Post by: Martin TK on July 12, 2010, 02:44:05 PM
Quote from: "Sophus"http://www.daylightatheism.org/2010/07/christianist-professor-calls-for-religious-mccarthyism.html

QuoteDeparting Justice John Paul Stevens summed up the issue at hand in his concurrence, in a praiseworthy reminder that religiously inspired bigotry is no different than any other kind of bigotry...

I got a news alert directing me to this column, by Mike Adams on the ultra-right-wing site Townhall. As you'd expect, he's furious that the government won't cooperate in spreading his prejudice, and he's threatening to do something about it:

"...when I get back to the secular university in August, I plan to round up the students I know who are most hostile to atheism. Then I'm going to get them to help me find atheist-haters willing to join atheist student groups across the South. I plan to use my young fundamentalist Christian warriors to undermine the mission of every group that disagrees with me on the existence of God.

That means an invading group can turn a smaller, weaker group into second class citizens on campus. That's what I intend to do to those groups who do not believe in God.

I do not seek robust debate. I seek power over the godless heathen dissident."

This man works at a University. I bet it's not long until he gets the boot but still... kinda scary.

This reminds me of a lawsuit brought by Christian fundamentalists saying that colleges that "discriminate" against Christians who believe that homosexuality is wrong, and they have the "right" to discriminate against gays as a requirement of their religion.  Of course it didn't go very far, but it was a huge lawsuit.
Title: Re: Christian Legal Society v. Martinez
Post by: Thumpalumpacus on July 12, 2010, 06:24:07 PM
I read a brilliant idea elsewhere:  let him and his theist friends join all the atheist organizations they wish; then buy ad-space in the local paper and publish the membership rolls.
Title: Re: Christian Legal Society v. Martinez
Post by: SSY on July 12, 2010, 09:41:23 PM
Quote from: "Martin TK"This reminds me of a lawsuit brought by Christian fundamentalists saying that colleges that "discriminate" against Christians who believe that homosexuality is wrong, and they have the "right" to discriminate against gays as a requirement of their religion.  Of course it didn't go very far, but it was a huge lawsuit.

"How dare you discriminate against us! We demand the right to discriminate, while not being discriminated against for any reason!"
Title: Re: Christian Legal Society v. Martinez
Post by: Thumpalumpacus on July 12, 2010, 11:52:36 PM
Yes, it's funny that they don't pray for special treatment, but rather seek recourse in "rights" given by the laws of man.
Title: Re: Christian Legal Society v. Martinez
Post by: Asmodean on July 13, 2010, 02:44:43 AM
Uhm... People are crazy, yes..? (And by people, I mean them redneck-type Americans from like... The Bible Beltâ,,¢)
Title: Re: Christian Legal Society v. Martinez
Post by: Thumpalumpacus on July 13, 2010, 07:38:40 AM
I'm a native Texan.  What are you getting at?
Title: Re: Christian Legal Society v. Martinez
Post by: Tank on July 13, 2010, 08:47:59 AM
Quote from: "Thumpalumpacus"I'm a native Texan.  What are you getting at?

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'nuff said  :D
Title: Re: Christian Legal Society v. Martinez
Post by: Asmodean on July 13, 2010, 12:25:44 PM
Yup. Listen to Tank :P
Title: Re: Christian Legal Society v. Martinez
Post by: Thumpalumpacus on July 13, 2010, 03:45:01 PM
Now that warms my pointy little heart.
Title: Re: Christian Legal Society v. Martinez
Post by: KDbeads on July 13, 2010, 05:32:25 PM
Quote from: "Tank"
Quote from: "Thumpalumpacus"I'm a native Texan.  What are you getting at?

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'nuff said  lol
Title: Re: Christian Legal Society v. Martinez
Post by: Sophus on July 13, 2010, 08:02:16 PM
Our friend Mike Adams spent some time in Texas...

QuoteUpon getting his doctorate in 1993, Adams, then an atheist and a Democrat, was hired by UNC-Wilmington to teach in the criminal justice program. A few years later, Adams abandoned his atheism and also became a Republican. He also nearly abandoned teaching when he took a one-year leave of absence to study law at UNC-Chapel Hill in 1998. After returning to teach at UNC-Wilmington, Adams won the Faculty Member of the Year award (issued by the Office of the Dean of Students) for the second time in 2000.
I always wonder about people like this. It seems like a lot of the Christians in the public eyes claim, "Oh yeah, I was an atheist when I was young and dumb. Har, har, har."