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The Coalition government has launched a new campaign to start listening to the people and scrap laws that are seen to be unfair, intrusive on civil liberties, and unnecessary in this moden age.

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Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg made this introduction video to explain the campaign:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeaIB2YvKhw&feature=player_embedded

Thank god, the proliferation of shitty legislation has pissed me off for years. Not that I expect them to actually listen, but even raising the issue of less onerous government will be good for the public.

Quote from: "SSY"Thank god, the proliferation of shitty legislation has pissed me off for years. Not that I expect them to actually listen, but even raising the issue of less onerous government will be good for the public.

+1 to that.

I remember hearing this on the radio - and to be honest I thought it was  a piss take!

Time to clean up the shop I suppose.

Quote from: "Dretlin"I remember hearing this on the radio - and to be honest I thought it was  a piss take!

It's hooked my wife good and proper!

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Quote from: "SSY"Thank god, the proliferation of shitty legislation has pissed me off for years. Not that I expect them to actually listen, but even raising the issue of less onerous government will be good for the public.

+1 to that.

Make that +2.

Governments very rarely give up control of anything. Bureaucracies rarely act to cut bureaucracy. So there are good reasons to be skeptical.

Still, its very refreshing to have a government that actually admits that theres a problem. Labour was all about extending the state. Maybe this bunch are different.

We'll see. The proof of the pudding is in the eating.

Quote from: "Caecilian"The proof of the pudding is in the eating.

It's so nice to see that phrase used correctly, for once.  I rarely ever hear it used correctly in America.

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Quote from: "Caecilian"The proof of the pudding is in the eating.

It's so nice to see that phrase used correctly, for once.  I rarely ever hear it used correctly in America.

Thank you   .

I like that phrase- it rolls off the tongue in a pleasing sort of way. I don't use it often, but rather enjoy it when I do.

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Quote from: "Caecilian"The proof of the pudding is in the eating.

It's so nice to see that phrase used correctly, for once.  I rarely ever hear it used correctly in America.

Yeah, I've always heard it as 'the proof is in the pudding' but I never understood what the hell that was supposed to mean.  Haha!

I think if anyone can cut red tape, the Tories can, they understand their votes come from people who want to cut government spending, they realise their best chance at re-election is to cut. Labour are quite the reverse, their election strategy relies on creating a client state, they would never even admit there was a problem. I just hope this new Diet Tory is up to the job, the cabinet is more lightweight than a summer duvet.

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Quote from: "Caecilian"The proof of the pudding is in the eating.

It's so nice to see that phrase used correctly, for once.  I rarely ever hear it used correctly in America.

proof is in the pudding  

Quote from: "SSY"I think if anyone can cut red tape, the Tories can, they understand their votes come from people who want to cut government spending, they realise their best chance at re-election is to cut. Labour are quite the reverse, their election strategy relies on creating a client state, they would never even admit there was a problem. I just hope this new Diet Tory is up to the job, the cabinet is more lightweight than a summer duvet.

We're already feeling the cuts where i work for the county council. No one is being hired and anyone who leaves isn't getting replaced. We've been told categorically all our jobs are safe (IT business services) but almost all other departments and services are being cut substantially.

It is genuinely good to see. I'm seeing the direct effects of belt-tightening first hand. I'm totally fine with having to work a bit harder for the next few years with a pay freeze. We all need to make concessions in times like this. I'm just happy i have a job to be honest.

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Quote from: "SSY"I think if anyone can cut red tape, the Tories can, they understand their votes come from people who want to cut government spending, they realise their best chance at re-election is to cut. Labour are quite the reverse, their election strategy relies on creating a client state, they would never even admit there was a problem. I just hope this new Diet Tory is up to the job, the cabinet is more lightweight than a summer duvet.

We're already feeling the cuts where i work for the county council. No one is being hired and anyone who leaves isn't getting replaced. We've been told categorically all our jobs are safe (IT business services) but almost all other departments and services are being cut substantially.

It is genuinely good to see. I'm seeing the direct effects of belt-tightening first hand. I'm totally fine with having to work a bit harder for the next few years with a pay freeze. We all need to make concessions in times like this. I'm just happy i have a job to be honest.

The annoying thing though is that are the wankers, sorry bankers, that caused this mess taking the hit? Are they fuck! The people least ably to cope with the effects of the credit crunch are taking the brunt of the pain to give those greedy pigs a free ride!  

Quote from: "Tank"The annoying thing though is that are the wankers, sorry bankers, that caused this mess taking the hit? Are they fuck! The people least ably to cope with the effects of the credit crunch are taking the brunt of the pain to give those greedy pigs a free ride!  

Thats about it, isn't it? And the one thing that I really do trust the Tories to do is to screw the poor and give tax cuts to the wealthy. Cutting back the power of the state...thats a lot less likely imo. They were very critical of the terrible legislation that Labour brought in- but that was when the Tories were in opposition. Now they're the government, and governments tend to see things, shall we say, differently.

The Tory record on civil liberties is not good- no better than Labour's really: The Criminal Justice and Public Order Act (1994); The Official Secrets Act (1989); the media ban on Sinn Fein. Not the actions of a governing party with liberty in mind.

The Lib Dems are the jokers in the pack here. If the Tories do act to curb state power, then in all likelihood it'll be pressure from their coalition allies that makes them do it.

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Quote from: "Dretlin"I remember hearing this on the radio - and to be honest I thought it was  a piss take!

It's hooked my wife good and proper!

haha.

One law they mentioned on the radio was: not reporting a grey squirrel was illegal.

Yes, maybe time to fix issues like that.

Quote from: "Tank"The annoying thing though is that are the wankers, sorry bankers, that caused this mess taking the hit? Are they fuck! The people least ably to cope with the effects of the credit crunch are taking the brunt of the pain to give those greedy pigs a free ride!  

Come now Tank, I think your view lacks nuance here, just blindly blaming this nebulous and nefarious entity, known as "bankers" is neither correct, nor productive. At the end of the day, a small (very small) number of people sold some bad debt, which precipitated the whole thing, and I fully agree that those responsible, should be brought up for their unscrupulous business practices, but hating on the whole banking sector (which, contrary to popular belief, does a lot of important work) is not a mature way to approach the situation. You also forget the vast number of redundancies in London's financial district, it was a bloodbath there for a while.

Edit, Massive derail, whoops.

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Quote from: "Tank"The annoying thing though is that are the wankers, sorry bankers, that caused this mess taking the hit? Are they fuck! The people least ably to cope with the effects of the credit crunch are taking the brunt of the pain to give those greedy pigs a free ride!  lol

However I would contend that within the banking sector the people that suffered most were possibly the underlings?

I'm sorry, I couldn't tell you, but I know the job market was terrible for a while, in part because of all the experienced people now on the market.