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Title: Tears of Joy
Post by: Sophus on July 01, 2010, 06:53:07 PM
Something got me contemplating "tears of joy" yesterday and I couldn't help but wonder: do they really exist? Through my own experience, it seems tears of joy are always evoked by having to part with something. Two olds friends as they meet again after all x number of years, a mother as she sends her child off to college, or watches them wed. Of there is some sense of accomplishment and happiness in such events, but what emotion is causing all the tears? An Edgar Allan Poe quote comes to mind:

Quote"But as in ethics, evil is a consequence of good, so in fact, out of joy is sorrow born. Either the memory of past bliss is the anguish of today, or the agonies which are have their origin in the ecstasies which might have been."
Title: Re: Tears of Joy
Post by: karadan on July 01, 2010, 08:51:31 PM
I'd cry tears of joy if England won the world cup.
Title: Re: Tears of Joy
Post by: Cecilie on July 01, 2010, 09:23:19 PM
I've never cried of joy.
Title: Re: Tears of Joy
Post by: Kylyssa on July 01, 2010, 09:29:48 PM
I wouldn't call them tears of joy so much as tears of intense emotion.  Extremely intense emotions can sometimes make me tear up.  When taking a certain medication, before we got the dosage right, I ate a bite of asparagus and potato gratin that was so intensely delicious that I leaked tears all over my face.  Then again, I'm autistic so my reactions are no indication of what is normal.
Title: Re: Tears of Joy
Post by: Thumpalumpacus on July 01, 2010, 09:31:31 PM
I cried tears of joy at my son's birth.
Title: Re: Tears of Joy
Post by: pinkocommie on July 01, 2010, 11:26:18 PM
Quote from: "Thumpalumpacus"I cried tears of joy at my son's birth.

Me too!  My son's birth, not your son's birth.  Though I'm sure your son is quite amazing as well.  :D
Title: Re: Tears of Joy
Post by: Sophus on July 02, 2010, 06:56:47 AM
Quote from: "Kylyssa"I wouldn't call them tears of joy so much as tears of intense emotion.  Extremely intense emotions can sometimes make me tear up.  When taking a certain medication, before we got the dosage right, I ate a bite of asparagus and potato gratin that was so intensely delicious that I leaked tears all over my face.  Then again, I'm autistic so my reactions are no indication of what is normal.
I suppose you're right. An overload of emotion must be what causes it. Personally, I cannot recall a time I cried for such reasons, but this does make sense.
Title: Re: Tears of Joy
Post by: Thumpalumpacus on July 02, 2010, 08:08:37 AM
Quote from: "pinkocommie"
Quote from: "Thumpalumpacus"I cried tears of joy at my son's birth.

Me too!  My son's birth, not your son's birth.  Though I'm sure your son is quite amazing as well.  :D

Wait, you didn't cry when my son was born?  Heathen!
Title: Re: Tears of Joy
Post by: Caecilian on July 02, 2010, 10:36:21 PM
Certain pieces of music can make me cry- 'Finlandia' by Sibelius, for example, always makes me cry. I'm not even Finnish btw- its just an intensely beautiful and emotional composition.

On reflection, its only classical music that does that to me. And its not that I don't like other types of music- I listen to as much rock as classical, and also sometimes jazz. Odd, really.
Title: Re: Tears of Joy
Post by: TheJackel on July 02, 2010, 11:01:09 PM
Quote from: "Thumpalumpacus"
Quote from: "pinkocommie"
Quote from: "Thumpalumpacus"I cried tears of joy at my son's birth.

Me too!  My son's birth, not your son's birth.  Though I'm sure your son is quite amazing as well.  :yay:

LOL JK :blush:
Title: Re: Tears of Joy
Post by: Tank on July 02, 2010, 11:21:11 PM
Quote from: "Cecilie"I've never cried of joy.
You're young, plenty of time yet.
Title: Re: Tears of Joy
Post by: The Black Jester on July 02, 2010, 11:40:11 PM
Quote from: "Caecilian"Certain pieces of music can make me cry- 'Finlandia' by Sibelius, for example, always makes me cry. I'm not even Finnish btw- its just an intensely beautiful and emotional composition.

On reflection, its only classical music that does that to me. And its not that I don't like other types of music- I listen to as much rock as classical, and also sometimes jazz. Odd, really.

Beethoven's 9th...never fails.  Total faucet-work time.
Title: Re: Tears of Joy
Post by: TheJackel on July 03, 2010, 05:43:07 AM
I cried watching Braveheart..  :(
Title: Re: Tears of Joy
Post by: Tank on July 03, 2010, 08:43:37 AM
Quote from: "TheJackel"I cried watching Braveheart..  :(
I agree the acting was truly awful  :shake:
Title: Re: Tears of Joy
Post by: Caecilian on July 04, 2010, 12:04:12 AM
Braveheart???

No way. I tend to agree with Tank on that one.

Films can be moving, though. Wenders' Wings of Desire- I cried quite a bit when I saw that one.

Also theatre, Shakespeare being the prime culprit (at least for me). I have trouble reading Lear and not breaking down in tears- never mind watching it being performed. Ditto The Tempest, The Winters Tale...probably some others too.
Title: Re: Tears of Joy
Post by: TheJackel on July 04, 2010, 12:39:23 AM
Quote from: "Caecilian"Braveheart???

No way. I tend to agree with Tank on that one.

Films can be moving, though. Wenders' Wings of Desire- I cried quite a bit when I saw that one.

Also theatre, Shakespeare being the prime culprit (at least for me). I have trouble reading Lear and not breaking down in tears- never mind watching it being performed. Ditto The Tempest, The Winters Tale...probably some others too.

I loved Braveheart!!!

 :(  :pace:  :verysad:  :sigh:  :sigh:  :frown:  :sadcry:  :sadcry:  :frown:
Title: Re: Tears of Joy
Post by: The Black Jester on July 04, 2010, 03:22:19 AM
Quote from: "Caecilian"Also theatre, Shakespeare being the prime culprit (at least for me). I have trouble reading Lear and not breaking down in tears- never mind watching it being performed. Ditto The Tempest, The Winters Tale...probably some others too.

As an actor, Shakespeare's my fave to do.  The St. Crispin's Day speech from Henry V, no matter how twisted the logic actually is, always makes me well up with pride.  And I'm not even English.
Title: Re: Tears of Joy
Post by: Cecilie on July 04, 2010, 05:07:51 AM
I cried in Lord of the Rings when Boromir died.  :(
Title: Re: Tears of Joy
Post by: Thumpalumpacus on July 04, 2010, 07:21:20 AM
I leaked when Steve McQueen died at the end of Sand Pebbles (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0060934/).
Title: Re: Tears of Joy
Post by: Tom62 on July 04, 2010, 07:49:40 AM
I cried while watching  Opname - In for Treatment (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0079674/), a movie about which dealt with the cancer taboo in the later seventies.
Title: Re: Tears of Joy
Post by: Tank on July 04, 2010, 09:46:21 AM
When I read Shane I cried, I was 14 and my Mum came in to find out what was wrong (how embarrassing was that!).
Title: Re: Tears of Joy
Post by: The Black Jester on July 04, 2010, 04:01:12 PM
Quote from: "Cecilie"I cried in Lord of the Rings when Boromir died.  :(

I cried so many times during my many readings of LOTR.  Most often at the Charge of the Rohirrim.
Title: Re: Tears of Joy
Post by: Thumpalumpacus on July 04, 2010, 06:58:14 PM
Quote from: "The Black Jester"
Quote from: "Cecilie"I cried in Lord of the Rings when Boromir died.  :(

I cried so many times during my many readings of LOTR.  Most often at the Charge of the Rohirrim.

No shit, that is a stirring passage.  And Eowyn's fight with the Nazgul.