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Title: What Americans believe the next 40 years hold
Post by: SSY on June 24, 2010, 03:12:24 AM
http://www.politicsdaily.com/2010/06/22 ... e-in-2050/ (http://www.politicsdaily.com/2010/06/22/what-americans-think-the-world-will-look-like-in-2050/)

I provide the most depressing section for your perusal
QuoteForty-six percent do not believe that Jesus Christ will return while 41 percent say it probably will happen. Fifty-four percent of Protestants overall believe it will happen, as do 58 percent of white evangelical Protestants. Fifty-seven percent of Catholics don't believe it. Seventy-two percent of those who identified themselves as unaffiliated with any religion also don't believe it. Sixty-four percent of college grads dismissed the possibility while 59 percent of those with a high school education or less believe Jesus' return is likely to happen.

Honestly, this is madness, I had always thought that most Christians believed in a more vague, airy fairy way than this, but believing the end is nigh, in such high numbers is truly worrying to me. It never ceases to amaze me how determined people are to believe they are special, I suppose living in special times is an outlet for those needs.

Do you think many of them would be up for a bet? Rapture in next 10 years or you pay up sort of thing? I know that guy who promises to deliver messages must be making a killing, I want a slice of the action.
Title: Re: What Americans believe the next 40 years hold
Post by: pinkocommie on June 24, 2010, 03:41:01 AM
This is embarrassing.   :verysad:
Title: Re: What Americans believe the next 40 years hold
Post by: skwurll on June 24, 2010, 03:59:42 AM
Sometimes I get the suspicion I'm surrounded by idiots.

Other times I know I am.
Title: Re: What Americans believe the next 40 years hold
Post by: Will on June 24, 2010, 04:09:41 AM
I predict a slow decrease in religiosity in the United States over the next 40 years.

I also predict 6 wars, a further divide between rich and poor, 3 more Wall Street bubbles, 15 seasons of American Idol, a celebrity actor being elected president again, and a housing crash that makes this one look like a joke.

But don't worry. I also predict the return of sexy low-rise jeans for ladies, eco-friendly technology exploding meaning way more energy efficiency, gay marriage passing, single-payer healthcare popping up on a state level in Washington, Oregon, California, and New England, the Twilight series becoming infamous as how not to write characters, and the RIAA and MPAA being dissolved.

Farther into the future, I predict the eventual colonization of the solar system, ice cream that burns calories, and an iPod that gets injected into your brain that has a 20 exabyte hard drive and a quantum processor.
Title: Re: What Americans believe the next 40 years hold
Post by: skwurll on June 24, 2010, 04:14:21 AM
Quote from: "Will"I also predict the return of sexy low-rise jeans for ladies, eco-friendly technology exploding meaning way more energy efficiency, gay marriage passing, single-payer healthcare popping up on a state level in Washington, Oregon, California, and New England, the Twilight series becoming infamous as how not to write characters, and the RIAA and MPAA being dissolved.

Farther into the future, I predict the eventual colonization of the solar system, ice cream that burns calories, and an iPod that gets injected into your brain that has a 20 exabyte hard drive and a quantum processor.


All of that sounds awesome.

Especially the sexy low-rise jeans! :P
Title: Re: What Americans believe the next 40 years hold
Post by: KDbeads on June 24, 2010, 04:21:19 AM
I guess these people haven't read Mark 9:1 :shake:
Title: Re: What Americans believe the next 40 years hold
Post by: Cite134 on June 24, 2010, 05:23:00 AM
Quote from: "Will"I predict a slow decrease in religiosity in the United States over the next 40 years.

I also predict 6 wars, a further divide between rich and poor, 3 more Wall Street bubbles, 15 seasons of American Idol, a celebrity actor being elected president again, and a housing crash that makes this one look like a joke.

But don't worry. I also predict the return of sexy low-rise jeans for ladies, eco-friendly technology exploding meaning way more energy efficiency, gay marriage passing, single-payer healthcare popping up on a state level in Washington, Oregon, California, and New England, the Twilight series becoming infamous as how not to write characters, and the RIAA and MPAA being dissolved.

Farther into the future, I predict the eventual colonization of the solar system, ice cream that burns calories, and an iPod that gets injected into your brain that has a 20 exabyte hard drive and a quantum processor.


This made me smile. :)
Title: Re: What Americans believe the next 40 years hold
Post by: Thumpalumpacus on June 24, 2010, 07:11:24 AM
Quote from: "SSY"http://www.politicsdaily.com/2010/06/22/what-americans-think-the-world-will-look-like-in-2050/

I provide the most depressing section for your perusal
QuoteForty-six percent do not believe that Jesus Christ will return while 41 percent say it probably will happen. Fifty-four percent of Protestants overall believe it will happen, as do 58 percent of white evangelical Protestants. Fifty-seven percent of Catholics don't believe it. Seventy-two percent of those who identified themselves as unaffiliated with any religion also don't believe it. Sixty-four percent of college grads dismissed the possibility while 59 percent of those with a high school education or less believe Jesus' return is likely to happen.

Honestly, this is madness, I had always thought that most Christians believed in a more vague, airy fairy way than this, but believing the end is nigh, in such high numbers is truly worrying to me. It never ceases to amaze me how determined people are to believe they are special, I suppose living in special times is an outlet for those needs.

Do you think many of them would be up for a bet? Rapture in next 10 years or you pay up sort of thing? I know that guy who promises to deliver messages must be making a killing, I want a slice of the action.

I'm not sure why this is bad news; compared to my youth, these are starkly positive numbers.

This is a process, and not an event.  Give it time.
Title: Re: What Americans believe the next 40 years hold
Post by: Asmodean on June 24, 2010, 09:47:50 AM
Quote from: "SSY"I suppose living in special times is an outlet for those needs.

Our time is not a fraction more special than that when Seventh Day Adventists were formed... Any one knows that story?

I'd say that the need to feel special and unique is the same need that drives people to call their time special. What's so special about 2010? There are wars, yet there are always wars. There is an economic crisis, yet that's not new. People can go to space, but I imagine the frst windmill was an even more momentous achievement. Thye Earth is crawling with bigots and lunatics, but then again, didn't it always..? So how the is our time so special that we need a sky zombie to return and deliver us salvation, damnation and a touch of apocalypse..?
Title: Re: What Americans believe the next 40 years hold
Post by: Businessocks on June 24, 2010, 12:11:00 PM
Quote from: "Will"I predict a slow decrease in religiosity in the United States over the next 40 years.

I also predict 6 wars, a further divide between rich and poor, 3 more Wall Street bubbles, 15 seasons of American Idol, a celebrity actor being elected president again, and a housing crash that makes this one look like a joke.

But don't worry. I also predict the return of sexy low-rise jeans for ladies, eco-friendly technology exploding meaning way more energy efficiency, gay marriage passing, single-payer healthcare popping up on a state level in Washington, Oregon, California, and New England, the Twilight series becoming infamous as how not to write characters, and the RIAA and MPAA being dissolved.

Farther into the future, I predict the eventual colonization of the solar system, ice cream that burns calories, and an iPod that gets injected into your brain that has a 20 exabyte hard drive and a quantum processor.


Great post!  

I think fear is going to get the better of many people in the next couple of years until 2012 passes.  But I wonder what the tour guides in Mexico are going to use as their intriguing hook about Mayan history once that passes?!?

I think religiosity is first going to see a big rise as things get worse. ---------> I agree that another housing bubble is going to burst.  It has to.  There are too many people living in $300,000.00 + plus homes on stagnant incomes.  I think China is going to dominate econmically more and more.
Title: Re: What Americans believe the next 40 years hold
Post by: GAYtheist on July 05, 2010, 06:32:42 AM
I hope to see an end to religion. With that I think alot of the bigotry would be put to rest. I also think, in the next few years, that not only will NOM be disbanded and Gay marriage fully accepted in this country, but Maggie Gallagher will be in jail.

I also hope that Fred Phelps dies a nice peaceful death, so his idiotic family cannot claim him a martyr.

In the next forty years, we could have a woman, maybe even a black woman sitting at the head of the table at the White House, may the great Noodly One also may her Atheist.  In the next fifty, a gay man could be there as well.

This is all hopeful, and highly unlikely, but hey, its my brain damn it.

John :headbang:  :bananacolor:
Title: Re: What Americans believe the next 40 years hold
Post by: Sophus on July 07, 2010, 02:34:40 AM
I'm hoping religion declines too but I'm not allowing my hopes to get up. Religion plays more of a role in American politics now than it did in Jefferson's days.
Title: Re: What Americans believe the next 40 years hold
Post by: maninorange on July 07, 2010, 05:07:04 AM
I agree in that is genuinely frightening...

I went to a Bible study recently... instead of going over God's supposed purpose in our life, the leader of the group's first words were, "So... End Times... what do you people think?"
/facepalm
While I did find some pleasure in correcting him on the date of the book of Daniel, the fact that Hitler was a Roman Catholic, and the contents of the Dead Sea scrolls, I'm fairly certain that he's still among those 40something% you mentioned...  :D
Title: Re: What Americans believe the next 40 years hold
Post by: KDbeads on July 09, 2010, 06:24:57 PM
Quote from: "maninorange"Let's educate them on the prophecies that DIDN'T work out so well... like Mark 9:1 that someone mentioned  :D

Yep, that one is my favorite.  Along with Revelations 7:4-7:8.
Title: Re: What Americans believe the next 40 years hold
Post by: Byronazriel on October 02, 2010, 07:16:30 AM
I wonder how many people believe that the events of the Terminator, or the Matrix will happen within forty years?
Title: Re: What Americans believe the next 40 years hold
Post by: pinkocommie on October 02, 2010, 07:33:08 AM
Quote from: "Byronazriel"I wonder how many people believe that the events of the Terminator, or the Matrix will happen within forty years?

Hahaha, the first time I read this I read "Terminator" as "Tremors" and I was like NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

/derail  :blush:
Title: Re: What Americans believe the next 40 years hold
Post by: Byronazriel on October 02, 2010, 07:37:47 AM
Both Tremors and Terminator are entire possible given sufficient engineering.
Title: Re: What Americans believe the next 40 years hold
Post by: pinkocommie on October 02, 2010, 07:41:55 AM
Oh sure, the creatures could be engineered.  But if you're trying to sell me on the idea that that level of acting finesse might actually be replicated in a laboratory setting - well, I'm sorry old man but I must heartily and passionately disagree!
Title: Re: What Americans believe the next 40 years hold
Post by: Byronazriel on October 02, 2010, 07:47:20 AM
Old man?  :raised:
Title: Re: What Americans believe the next 40 years hold
Post by: Thumpalumpacus on October 02, 2010, 05:23:53 PM
Quote from: "pinkocommie"Oh sure, the creatures could be engineered.  But if you're trying to sell me on the idea that that level of acting finesse might actually be replicated in a laboratory setting - well, I'm sorry old man but I must heartily and passionately disagree!

Hey, Reba's performance as an ignorant redneck was spot-on.
Title: Re: What Americans believe the next 40 years hold
Post by: Ihateyoumike on October 02, 2010, 06:20:07 PM
I too would like to see a decrease in religiousness in the u.s. in the next 40 years, but sadly methinks the worse things get, the more people turn to their imaginary skydaddy for help.
Title: Re: What Americans believe the next 40 years hold
Post by: åscertain on October 04, 2010, 03:18:38 AM
these statistics seem to coorelate with the idiocracy I come across everyday.
put down the bible, pick up the text book.
Title: Re: What Americans believe the next 40 years hold
Post by: Byronazriel on October 04, 2010, 04:05:54 AM
Personally I think people would be slightly less bonkers if they actually READ the book that they base their lives on, you'd be surprised just how many "deeply religous" types have never read more than a few pages at most. They're content with being spoonfed by their church leader person.

And most of the people who actually have read the bible cover to cover are people who are either doing so for academic reasons, or because they are required to do it.

That's something I can never understand, if you're going to believe in something, build your life around it, and use it as the foundation of your philisophical beliefs... shouldn't understanding, researching, and questioning it be a priority!?  :crazy:

Most of the theologists I've met have been really cool people. Religion is an interesting subject, and if you look at religion from a pychological, anthropological, historical, and philisophical standpoint while comparing it to other religions you understand it better.
Title: Re: What Americans believe the next 40 years hold
Post by: Thumpalumpacus on October 04, 2010, 05:10:28 PM
Quote from: "Byronazriel"Personally I think people would be slightly less bonkers if they actually READ the book that they base their lives on, you'd be surprised just how many "deeply religous" types have never read more than a few pages at most. They're content with being spoonfed by their church leader person.

And most of the people who actually have read the bible cover to cover are people who are either doing so for academic reasons, or because they are required to do it.

That's something I can never understand, if you're going to believe in something, build your life around it, and use it as the foundation of your philisophical beliefs... shouldn't understanding, researching, and questioning it be a priority!?  :crazy:

Most of the theologists I've met have been really cool people. Religion is an interesting subject, and if you look at religion from a pychological, anthropological, historical, and philisophical standpoint while comparing it to other religions you understand it better.

I think most of them feel that their Bible-reading requirements are met by the few verses they get in church on Sundays.  What they don't realize is that this opens them up to cherry-picking, so that they are subtly manipulated.
Title: Re: What Americans believe the next 40 years hold
Post by: DropLogic on October 04, 2010, 08:47:28 PM
Jesus Christ...the comments on that article caused breakfast and yesterdays dinner to creep up my throat.  Thank you internet for highlighting the MASSIVE ignorance in this world..../ :brick:  :brick:  :brick: