Title: Hello!
Post by: TomThumb on June 15, 2010, 02:10:59 PM
Post by: TomThumb on June 15, 2010, 02:10:59 PM
I'm TomThumb in the place to be
I go to St. John's University
And since kinde-garten I acquired the knowledge
And after 12th grade I went straight to college
I'm light skinned, I live in Queens
And I love eatin chicken and collard greens
I go to St. John's University
And since kinde-garten I acquired the knowledge
And after 12th grade I went straight to college
I'm light skinned, I live in Queens
And I love eatin chicken and collard greens
Title: Re: Hello!
Post by: Cecilie on June 15, 2010, 02:23:08 PM
Post by: Cecilie on June 15, 2010, 02:23:08 PM
Welcome to HAF.
Title: Re: Hello!
Post by: chryan218 on June 15, 2010, 06:43:15 PM
Post by: chryan218 on June 15, 2010, 06:43:15 PM
Oh, I do love a good rhyme. I'm new as well; Welcome!
Title: Re: Hello!
Post by: Davin on June 15, 2010, 06:51:31 PM
Post by: Davin on June 15, 2010, 06:51:31 PM
Hello, I do also like collard greens and chicken.
Title: Re: Hello!
Post by: elliebean on June 15, 2010, 07:16:53 PM
Post by: elliebean on June 15, 2010, 07:16:53 PM
Hello and welcome, TomThumb! 
Title: Re: Hello!
Post by: pinkocommie on June 15, 2010, 07:27:10 PM
Post by: pinkocommie on June 15, 2010, 07:27:10 PM
Welcome to the forum! I hope you enjoy yourself here. =D
Title: Re: Hello!
Post by: Ned on June 17, 2010, 12:26:58 AM
Post by: Ned on June 17, 2010, 12:26:58 AM
This guy talked a lot of sense and you would wonder why he was banned.
Title: Re: Hello!
Post by: Davin on June 17, 2010, 12:34:23 AM
Post by: Davin on June 17, 2010, 12:34:23 AM
Quote from: "Ned"This guy talked a lot of sense and you would wonder why he was banned.No one was wondering why TomThumb was banned.
Title: Re: Hello!
Post by: pinkocommie on June 17, 2010, 01:18:22 AM
Post by: pinkocommie on June 17, 2010, 01:18:22 AM
Quote from: "Ned"This guy talked a lot of sense and you would wonder why he was banned.
What is your definition of 'sense'? Can you give me an example of this with the contributions TomThumb made here?
Title: Re: Hello!
Post by: Ned on June 17, 2010, 01:33:57 AM
Post by: Ned on June 17, 2010, 01:33:57 AM
Quote from: "pinkocommie"To be fair I didn't agree with everything TomThumb said, but I think his belief that Dinosaurs are overgrown lizards is thought-provoking and merits further investigation.Quote from: "Ned"This guy talked a lot of sense and you would wonder why he was banned.
What is your definition of 'sense'? Can you give me an example of this with the contributions TomThumb made here?
Title: Re: Hello!
Post by: i_am_i on June 17, 2010, 01:39:58 AM
Post by: i_am_i on June 17, 2010, 01:39:58 AM
Quote from: "Ned"Quote from: "pinkocommie"To be fair I didn't agree with everything TomThumb said, but I think his belief that Dinosaurs are overgrown lizards is thought-provoking and merits further investigation.Quote from: "Ned"This guy talked a lot of sense and you would wonder why he was banned.
What is your definition of 'sense'? Can you give me an example of this with the contributions TomThumb made here?
Please Ned, please don't do anything to get banned! I really want you to stick around for awhile, okay?
So. Let's get going! Dinosaurs were overgrown lizards, said our departed Tom Thumb. Now then, how do you propose we investigate that idea further?
Title: Re: Hello!
Post by: pinkocommie on June 17, 2010, 01:51:41 AM
Post by: pinkocommie on June 17, 2010, 01:51:41 AM
Quote from: "Ned"Quote from: "pinkocommie"To be fair I didn't agree with everything TomThumb said, but I think his belief that Dinosaurs are overgrown lizards is thought-provoking and merits further investigation.Quote from: "Ned"This guy talked a lot of sense and you would wonder why he was banned.
What is your definition of 'sense'? Can you give me an example of this with the contributions TomThumb made here?
I think if having a belief about dinosaurs being overgrown lizards inspires someone to learn about evolutionary biology, then that's a good thing. The belief itself is not something that merits respect, however, because it's a glaringly uneducated position to argue. Also, Thumb didn't even construct an argument, he just made an assertion without any information to fully back up or explain his idea. I disagree that this comment makes sense. Can you give me information that explains the concept further? Maybe I just don't fully understand the idea.
Title: Re: Hello!
Post by: Ned on June 17, 2010, 02:41:58 AM
Post by: Ned on June 17, 2010, 02:41:58 AM
Quote from: "i_am_i"Please Ned, please don't do anything to get banned! I really want you to stick around for awhile, okay?Not sure. I think I'll leave that to the scientific community.
So. Let's get going! Dinosaurs were overgrown lizards, said our departed Tom Thumb. Now then, how do you propose we investigate that idea further?
Title: Re: Hello!
Post by: i_am_i on June 17, 2010, 03:07:10 AM
Post by: i_am_i on June 17, 2010, 03:07:10 AM
Quote from: "Ned"Quote from: "i_am_i"Please Ned, please don't do anything to get banned! I really want you to stick around for awhile, okay?Not sure. I think I'll leave that to the scientific community.
So. Let's get going! Dinosaurs were overgrown lizards, said our departed Tom Thumb. Now then, how do you propose we investigate that idea further?
But how can you be not sure when you yourself have said that the idea is thought provoking? Don't you have any thoughts on the matter, any at all?
Title: Re: Hello!
Post by: Ned on June 17, 2010, 03:43:42 AM
Post by: Ned on June 17, 2010, 03:43:42 AM
Quote from: "i_am_i"Quote from: "Ned"Quote from: "i_am_i"Please Ned, please don't do anything to get banned! I really want you to stick around for awhile, okay?Not sure. I think I'll leave that to the scientific community.
So. Let's get going! Dinosaurs were overgrown lizards, said our departed Tom Thumb. Now then, how do you propose we investigate that idea further?
But how can you be not sure when you yourself have said that the idea is thought provoking? Don't you have any thoughts on the matter, any at all?
Personally, I find the idea that Dinosaurs were overgrown lizards to be interesting, and my hunch is that it is the truth. However, I fully admit that I can't prove it, and wouldn't have the first idea about how to.
Also (and this isn't aimed at you personally), I think it would be a good idea for people to remember that this is an internet forum, not a Critique of Pure Reason. I think people should be allowed to suggest an idea without having to provide extensive references or footnotes.
Title: Re: Hello!
Post by: i_am_i on June 17, 2010, 05:52:36 AM
Post by: i_am_i on June 17, 2010, 05:52:36 AM
Quote from: "Ned"Personally, I find the idea that Dinosaurs were overgrown lizards to be interesting, and my hunch is that it is the truth. However, I fully admit that I can't prove it, and wouldn't have the first idea about how to.
Also (and this isn't aimed at you personally), I think it would be a good idea for people to remember that this is an internet forum, not a Critique of Pure Reason. I think people should be allowed to suggest an idea without having to provide extensive references or footnotes.
Aw, come on. I'm not asking for all that. I'm just really curious why you have this hunch that dinosaurs were overgrown lizards, that's all.
Title: Re: Hello!
Post by: pinkocommie on June 17, 2010, 05:54:33 AM
Post by: pinkocommie on June 17, 2010, 05:54:33 AM
Quote from: "Ned"Also (and this isn't aimed at you personally), I think it would be a good idea for people to remember that this is an internet forum, not a Critique of Pure Reason. I think people should be allowed to suggest an idea without having to provide extensive references or footnotes.
Don't you think it might make more sense to get a feel for this particular forum before declaring how everyone here ought to behave? I think in this case, it's not that everyone here doesn't understand how forums are supposed to work, it's that you lack an understanding of the nuances of this particular forum. If you don't like how this forum works, you don't have to participate here.
Title: Re: Hello!
Post by: Tank on June 17, 2010, 09:51:45 AM
Post by: Tank on June 17, 2010, 09:51:45 AM
Quote from: "Ned"Quote from: "pinkocommie"To be fair I didn't agree with everything TomThumb said, but I think his belief that Dinosaurs are overgrown lizards is thought-provoking and merits further investigation.Quote from: "Ned"This guy talked a lot of sense and you would wonder why he was banned.
What is your definition of 'sense'? Can you give me an example of this with the contributions TomThumb made here?
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Title: Re: Hello!
Post by: Tank on June 17, 2010, 09:55:21 AM
Post by: Tank on June 17, 2010, 09:55:21 AM
Ned.
If you are interested in evolution have a look here http://www.rationalskepticism.org/evolu ... html#p3345 (http://www.rationalskepticism.org/evolution/evolution-resources-t402.html#p3345)
If you are interested in evolution have a look here http://www.rationalskepticism.org/evolu ... html#p3345 (http://www.rationalskepticism.org/evolution/evolution-resources-t402.html#p3345)
Title: Re: Hello!
Post by: Whitney on June 17, 2010, 01:16:26 PM
Post by: Whitney on June 17, 2010, 01:16:26 PM
Quote from: "pinkocommie"Quote from: "Ned"Also (and this isn't aimed at you personally), I think it would be a good idea for people to remember that this is an internet forum, not a Critique of Pure Reason. I think people should be allowed to suggest an idea without having to provide extensive references or footnotes.
Don't you think it might make more sense to get a feel for this particular forum before declaring how everyone here ought to behave? I think in this case, it's not that everyone here doesn't understand how forums are supposed to work, it's that you lack an understanding of the nuances of this particular forum. If you don't like how this forum works, you don't have to participate here.
I would add that just because a spot on the internet is set up using forum software does not bind it to complying with the wishes of random people who join and start immediately complaining
Title: Re: Hello!
Post by: Ned on June 17, 2010, 01:21:37 PM
Post by: Ned on June 17, 2010, 01:21:37 PM
I wish to apologize for the belligerent tone of some of my earlier posts.
Title: Re: Hello!
Post by: Tank on June 17, 2010, 04:46:32 PM
Post by: Tank on June 17, 2010, 04:46:32 PM
Quote from: "Ned"I wish to apologize for the belligerent tone of some of my earlier posts.The survival instinct is strong in this one!
Seriously Ned, tell us a bit about yourself please
Title: Re: Hello!
Post by: Ned on June 17, 2010, 09:38:53 PM
Post by: Ned on June 17, 2010, 09:38:53 PM
Quote from: "i_am_i"You have to admit that dinosaurs do bear a strong resemblance to large lizards.Quote from: "Ned"Personally, I find the idea that Dinosaurs were overgrown lizards to be interesting, and my hunch is that it is the truth. However, I fully admit that I can't prove it, and wouldn't have the first idea about how to.
Also (and this isn't aimed at you personally), I think it would be a good idea for people to remember that this is an internet forum, not a Critique of Pure Reason. I think people should be allowed to suggest an idea without having to provide extensive references or footnotes.
Aw, come on. I'm not asking for all that. I'm just really curious why you have this hunch that dinosaurs were overgrown lizards, that's all.
Title: Re: Hello!
Post by: Davin on June 17, 2010, 09:42:28 PM
Post by: Davin on June 17, 2010, 09:42:28 PM
Quote from: "Ned"You have to admit that dinosaurs do bear a strong resemblance to large lizards.No one has to admit anything, additionally: they don't resemble lizards.
Title: Re: Hello!
Post by: i_am_i on June 17, 2010, 09:43:21 PM
Post by: i_am_i on June 17, 2010, 09:43:21 PM
Quote from: "Ned"Quote from: "i_am_i"Quote from: "Ned"Personally, I find the idea that Dinosaurs were overgrown lizards to be interesting, and my hunch is that it is the truth. However, I fully admit that I can't prove it, and wouldn't have the first idea about how to.
Also (and this isn't aimed at you personally), I think it would be a good idea for people to remember that this is an internet forum, not a Critique of Pure Reason. I think people should be allowed to suggest an idea without having to provide extensive references or footnotes.
Aw, come on. I'm not asking for all that. I'm just really curious why you have this hunch that dinosaurs were overgrown lizards, that's all.
You have to admit that dinosaurs do bear a strong resemblance to large lizards.
But they don't, not really, not if you look into it at all, which you obviously haven't. They bear more of a resemblance to birds if anything. Dinosaur legs are completely different from lizard legs, for example.
Title: Re: Hello!
Post by: pinkocommie on June 17, 2010, 10:13:02 PM
Post by: pinkocommie on June 17, 2010, 10:13:02 PM
Quote from: "Ned"Quote from: "i_am_i"You have to admit that dinosaurs do bear a strong resemblance to large lizards.Quote from: "Ned"Personally, I find the idea that Dinosaurs were overgrown lizards to be interesting, and my hunch is that it is the truth. However, I fully admit that I can't prove it, and wouldn't have the first idea about how to.
Also (and this isn't aimed at you personally), I think it would be a good idea for people to remember that this is an internet forum, not a Critique of Pure Reason. I think people should be allowed to suggest an idea without having to provide extensive references or footnotes.
Aw, come on. I'm not asking for all that. I'm just really curious why you have this hunch that dinosaurs were overgrown lizards, that's all.
There are lots and lots of different dinosaurs - which ones are you talking about? I think that's what makes this assertion so absurd to me. A brontosaurus looks more like an elephant or a giraffe than a lizard to me, even if we're just making casual observations. A Pterodactyl could just as easily strike a strong resemblance to a bird or a bat than a lizard. TomThumb's suggestion that this idea is anything close to a theory or at all scientifically sound is literally laughable.
Title: Re: Hello!
Post by: Squid on June 18, 2010, 01:38:49 AM
Post by: Squid on June 18, 2010, 01:38:49 AM
Wow, so you think that maybe the dinosaurs were reptiles just like lizards?! Holy crap, what a coincidence!
But seriously, the "observation" is a very elementary one. Modern lizards are diapsids (subclass of reptiles) which reside in a separate infraclass called Lepidosauormorpha and those closer what people would consider "dinosaurs" would be the infraclass Archosauromorpha - it gets much more complicated from there, so simply saying "dinosaurs are overgrown lizards" is scientifically meaningless.
But seriously, the "observation" is a very elementary one. Modern lizards are diapsids (subclass of reptiles) which reside in a separate infraclass called Lepidosauormorpha and those closer what people would consider "dinosaurs" would be the infraclass Archosauromorpha - it gets much more complicated from there, so simply saying "dinosaurs are overgrown lizards" is scientifically meaningless.
Title: Re: Hello!
Post by: i_am_i on June 18, 2010, 01:51:55 AM
Post by: i_am_i on June 18, 2010, 01:51:55 AM
Something tells me, as Butch said in Pulp Fiction, "Ned is dead, baby. Ned is dead."
Yes, I know, it was actually Zed, and no, I don't mean that Ned is actually dead. What I mean that I'm pretty sure he's been banished from our midst, the poor unfortunate kid. But it was for the best.
Kids at adult parties have always annoyed the shit out of me. What the hell are their parents thinking?
Yes, I know, it was actually Zed, and no, I don't mean that Ned is actually dead. What I mean that I'm pretty sure he's been banished from our midst, the poor unfortunate kid. But it was for the best.
Kids at adult parties have always annoyed the shit out of me. What the hell are their parents thinking?