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I got called a Nazi!  I just got an email regarding my Squidoo lens about overpopulation.  The person claimed that by saying that people should regulate the number of children they have I am suggesting the murder of millions of innocents.

Quote from: "Kylyssa"I got called a Nazi!  I just got an email regarding my Squidoo lens about overpopulation.  The person claimed that by saying that people should regulate the number of children they have I am suggesting the murder of millions of innocents.

Godwin alert!  

That's the thing about the right to lifers, at least as I've noticed.  They don't care how that child is going to clothed, fed, or cared for, so long as no one aborts it.  I mean who cares if the mother is heroin addict who will just wind up throwing the kid in a dumpster, at least she didn't have an abortion!

I guess the point I'm making is, I wouldn't let it bother you.  Because whoever sent you that email is an idiot.

Quote from: "philosoraptor"I guess the point I'm making is, I wouldn't let it bother you.  Because whoever sent you that email is an idiot.

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I'll add "an idiot who, if he had been aborted, would have made the world a better more loving place."

To piss of lifers/birthers just tell them since 25%-30% of all births are miscarriages i guess god is the best abortion doctor around.

Quote from: "philosoraptor"I guess the point I'm making is, I wouldn't let it bother you.  Because whoever sent you that email is an idiot.

Eh, I'm not bothered.  I just felt like sharing it because it reminded me how loony people are.  The comparison between suggesting the murder of millions and suggesting a bit of birth control and self-restraint (I didn't even say don't have kids but to try to have fewer) is so weird to me.  People seem to actually believe that those who don't want to live stacked like cord wood while millions starve are evil anti-human ideologues.  

To me, wishing uncontrolled population growth is anti-human.  Quality of life has meaning.

I also don't comprehend how one can believe that there is no upper limit to how many humans the earth can support.

Quote from: "Kylyssa"I got called a Nazi!  I just got an email regarding my Squidoo lens about overpopulation.  The person claimed that by saying that people should regulate the number of children they have I am suggesting the murder of millions of innocents.

Was that Ben's reply on here? http://www.squidoo.com/isoverpopulationamyth (http://www.squidoo.com/isoverpopulationamyth)

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Quote from: "Kylyssa"I got called a Nazi!  I just got an email regarding my Squidoo lens about overpopulation.  The person claimed that by saying that people should regulate the number of children they have I am suggesting the murder of millions of innocents.

Was that Ben's reply on here? http://www.squidoo.com/isoverpopulationamyth (http://www.squidoo.com/isoverpopulationamyth)

No, but now that you mention it, the email came right after the timestamp on the comment.  The similarity of theme is probably not coincidental.  The name used on the email was Clark, though that probably doesn't mean anything.

At one point, a link to the page was posted on an "overpopulation is a myth" board and I got a series of unfit to allow comments.

P.S. By unfit to allow, I mean containing profanity which can get your Squidoo page flagged and disappeared behind an "Adult Splash" barrier.

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Quote from: "Kylyssa"I got called a Nazi!  I just got an email regarding my Squidoo lens about overpopulation.  The person claimed that by saying that people should regulate the number of children they have I am suggesting the murder of millions of innocents.

Was that Ben's reply on here? http://www.squidoo.com/isoverpopulationamyth (http://www.squidoo.com/isoverpopulationamyth)

No, but now that you mention it, the email came right after the timestamp on the comment.  The similarity of theme is probably not coincidental.  The name used on the email was Clark, though that probably doesn't mean anything.

At one point, a link to the page was posted on an "overpopulation is a myth" board and I got a series of unfit to allow comments.

P.S. By unfit to allow, I mean containing profanity which can get your Squidoo page flagged and disappeared behind an "Adult Splash" barrier.

Until I read your lens I had no idea that some people consider overpopulation could be a myth. Unfortunately the more I see of Americans the more stupid so many of them appear to be, present company excepted of course. It's just mind boggling how the conspiracy theorists and evangelicals get so much air time  

The lens on 'What Evolution isn't' made very good reading.

Love the fetus, hate the child.   Fuckin' people, I swear...

I will say that maybe about 70% or more of the planet is not occupied by humans. Humans live in groups of large population in designated areas which are called cities. Most of China land areas for example, is empty while major cities are inhabited by millions of people.  :verysad:

Quote from: "hvargas"I will say that maybe about 70% or more of the planet is not occupied by humans. Humans live in groups of large population in designated areas which are called cities. Most of China land areas for example, is empty while major cities are inhabited by millions of people.  :verysad:

I think you'll find China is actually very rural. Given that deserts are uninhabitable everywhere that can be inhabited in China is. I have spoken to people who have travelled in China and their abiding memory is being stared at everywhere they go, urban or rural!

That pretty well describes a lot of my experiences in Mississippi.

Quote from: "elliebean"That pretty well describes a lot of my experiences in Mississippi.

Really? I have only been in the states for about six months on-and-off over the years. One weekend I took a road trip with an American friend. We drove west from Chicago to the Mississippi where he dipped the wheels in the river for some odd ritualistic reason. I found the state quite eerily empty. Is Mississippi more populous than Illinois?

Quote from: "hvargas"I will say that maybe about 70% or more of the planet is not occupied by humans. Humans live in groups of large population in designated areas which are called cities. Most of China land areas for example, is empty while major cities are inhabited by millions of people.  :verysad:

70% of the planet is covered by water.

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Quote from: "hvargas"I will say that maybe about 70% or more of the planet is not occupied by humans. Humans live in groups of large population in designated areas which are called cities. Most of China land areas for example, is empty while major cities are inhabited by millions of people.  :verysad:

70% of the planet is covered by water.

Beat me to it  

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Quote from: "elliebean"That pretty well describes a lot of my experiences in Mississippi.

Really? I have only been in the states for about six months on-and-off over the years. One weekend I took a road trip with an American friend. We drove west from Chicago to the Mississippi where he dipped the wheels in the river for some odd ritualistic reason. I found the state quite eerily empty. Is Mississippi more populous than Illinois?

If you drove west from Chicago to the Mississippi River, you were still in Illinois and across the river from Iowa. The state of Mississippi is not more populous than Illinois, but it is both rural and urban and I got stared at everywhere I went.  

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Quote from: "elliebean"That pretty well describes a lot of my experiences in Mississippi.

Really? I have only been in the states for about six months on-and-off over the years. One weekend I took a road trip with an American friend. We drove west from Chicago to the Mississippi where he dipped the wheels in the river for some odd ritualistic reason. I found the state quite eerily empty. Is Mississippi more populous than Illinois?

If you drove west from Chicago to the Mississippi River, you were still in Illinois and across the river from Iowa. The state of Mississippi is not more populous than Illinois, but it is both rural and urban and I got stared at everywhere I went.  

Ah!

We crossed into Iowa just so I could say I'd been there.

Quote from: "Sheeplauncher"To piss of lifers/birthers just tell them since 25%-30% of all births are miscarriages i guess god is the best abortion doctor around.

I think I love you.

Its occupied by water. :drool

Rev. Thomas Malthus, 1766...1834 wrote; Essay on the Principle of Population.  He postulated that population will rise to the level of maximum global sustainability and thereafter decline. The process would repeat over time. His position was that god is punishing us for having so little regard for our earthly resources. Or at least that was the general idea.

The downside of geometric increase in population is not pleaant to contemplate. We will have strife, disease, insurrections, wars, and brutal behavior by those who would survive.  They will do whatever is percieved as necessary without regard to the welfare or survival of the rest of the populance. The end of altruism. Darwin vindicated.  

LDS, Catholic, and numerous other types are serious about their position on reproductive obligation. I think that we are in trouble

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Quote from: "philosoraptor"I guess the point I'm making is, I wouldn't let it bother you.  Because whoever sent you that email is an idiot.

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I'll add "an idiot who, if he had been aborted, would have made the world a better more loving place."

thankfully my mother is a christian who does not support abortion if i was never born then well...there would be no true difference i just enjoy the living part... but yes i support abortion due to many reasons for example...overpopulation...if the parent is unfit or does not have the funds to support the child exactly what the OP said... having a child is no laughing matter it takes serious consideration and in todays society i find it sad that so many children are having unprotected sex...me being a child myself.. i am ashamed of todays generation. once again just my two cents.