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In my other thread, I posted why god would consider making us capable to be another religion or atheist. I just now realized that they would immeadiately say, "Satan!" But i say "Nay!" because this would be so bad for God in the fact that we would grow apart from him...and he needs us in the afterlife to be his slaves. I seriously think this might be the best evidence for why god isn't real...but that's my opinion.  

Quote from: "Killa_Kron"In my other thread, I posted why god would consider making us capable to be another religion or atheist. I just now realized that they would immeadiately say, "Satan!" But i say "Nay!" because this would be so bad for God in the fact that we would grow apart from him...and he needs us in the afterlife to be his slaves. I seriously think this might be the best evidence for why god isn't real...but that's my opinion.  

This makes absolutely no sense.  God needing us as slaves is the best evidence for why God doesn't exist?

Ok good point...horrid choice of words there. What i meant was that if god was truly real, why would he give us the capability to be a Muslim or Jew or Hindi or atheist? That would be counter-effective, don't you think?

Quote from: "Killa_Kron"Ok good point...horrid choice of words there. What i meant was that if god was truly real, why would he give us the capability to be a Muslim or Jew or Hindi or atheist? That would be counter-effective, don't you think?

I'd have to first believe in God first to find it counter-effective on his part.  So no, it doesn't really bother me.

Supposedly, God entitled us with free will.  Why?  You'd have to ask someone who believes in God what the reasoning behind that is.

I used to be super religious, so i "know" what the reasons are. He gave us free will, yet we are part of a plan. Which means we don't have free will, but they INSIST we have free will, so i refer back to the plan, and they just shut me up with, "With god, anything is possible" or some bullshit like that. Truly, I think most religions have these little circles within them. Oh, and do you think Buddhism is a religion?

Some forms of Buddhism are religious, other forms are philosophy.  Depends on what kind of Buddhism you're talking about.

Why does God need a reason to not exist?

Quote from: "Ellainix"Why does God need a reason to not exist?

I....I....I don't know! LOL invader zim anyone?

Quote from: "Killa_Kron"I used to be super religious, so i "know" what the reasons are. He gave us free will, yet we are part of a plan. Which means we don't have free will, but they INSIST we have free will, so i refer back to the plan, and they just shut me up with, "With god, anything is possible" or some bullshit like that.

The only thing I can think of is that God has a plan, but he wants us to choose his plan.

I am an atheist, but that is the only I can think of that someone who believes in god would say....

Quote from: "Munchkin Goddess"The only thing I can think of is that God has a plan, but he wants us to choose his plan.

Cylon spotted

God was only conjured into fictional existence by an ancient, ignorant group of people who couldn't explain death, life, and needed a list of rules so they didn't go off and screw the sheep.

And we need another reason God doesn't exist?  

Quote from: "Killa_Kron"Ok good point...horrid choice of words there. What i meant was that if god was truly real, why would he give us the capability to be a Muslim or Jew or Hindi or atheist? That would be counter-effective, don't you think?

Not if a god wanted people to freely choose him as many Christians believe.  Others also believe that all religions are just personally ways of celebrating the creator and all are equally favorable to god.


So...no; you are assuming that if there were a god that humans were created to be slaves there is no reason why that should follow.

Quote from: "curiosityandthecat"God was only conjured into fictional existence by an ancient, ignorant group of people who couldn't explain death, life, and needed a list of rules so they didn't go off and screw the sheep.

Which is the same function that God serves to this very day.

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Quote from: "Munchkin Goddess"The only thing I can think of is that God has a plan, but he wants us to choose his plan.

Cylon spotted

I apologize, but I do not understand what you are referencing.........

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Quote from: "Munchkin Goddess"The only thing I can think of is that God has a plan, but he wants us to choose his plan.

Cylon spotted

I apologize, but I do not understand what you are referencing.........

I hope you mean that you get the reference to Battlestar Galactica but not how it applies to you... or maybe you're just not a sci-fi person.

Quote from: "Davin"I hope you mean that you get the reference to Battlestar Galactica but not how it applies to you... or maybe you're just not a sci-fi person.

Ohhhhh, I am a sci-fi person. I actually only recently started watching the miniseries my friend lent me a few days ago. It was sometime after I posted this that I got to watch the series.

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Quote from: "Davin"I hope you mean that you get the reference to Battlestar Galactica but not how it applies to you... or maybe you're just not a sci-fi person.

Ohhhhh, I am a sci-fi person. I actually only recently started watching the miniseries my friend lent me a few days ago. It was sometime after I posted this that I got to watch the series.

When you get to the bits where Cylons start talking about god you'll get my reference.  That's not really a spoiler btw.

(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg268.imageshack.us%2Fimg268%2F7475%2Fteah.gif&hash=974e3ef02680bc29a956eeb3296cd6601baa8c94) just reading.

Top ten reasons God doesn't exist:

10. On the morning of the Big Bang, He forgot to set his alarm.
9. He locked His keys inside the universe.
8. He didn't schedule an appointment to His own creation.
7. When He made time, He was facing the wrong way.
6. Because He doesn't wanna.
5. Existence was out of stock at the supermarket.
4. Existence is soooo last millennium.
3. The instructions were in Japanese.
2. He used to exist, but then He created logic.
1. When He saw how great everything was, He decided it was better off without Him.

Ellie, I love it!

I just completed my MA in philosophy (I graduated yesterday), and this is from a list of grad students jokes I got in an email once:

Why God Doesn't Have a PhD
   1. He had only one major publication.
   2. It was in Hebrew.
   3. It had no references.
   4. It wasn't published in a refereed journal.
   5. Some even doubt he wrote it by himself.
   6. It may be true that he created the world, but what has he done since then?
   7. His cooperative efforts have been quite limited.
   8. The scientific community has had a hard time replicating his results.
   9. He never applied to the ethics board for permission to use human subjects.
  10. When one experiment went awry he tried to cover it by drowning his subjects.
  11. When subjects didn't behave as predicted, he deleted them from the sample.
  12. He rarely came to class, just told students to read the book.
  13. Some say he had his son teach the class.
  14. He expelled his first two students for learning.
  15. Although there were only 10 requirements, most of his students failed his tests.
  16. His office hours were infrequent and usually held on a mountain top.
  17. No record of working well with colleagues.