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Title: Who do you admire and why?
Post by: karadan on January 27, 2010, 10:14:14 PM
We all have our personal heroes for one reason or another. Who would you guys like to nominate (can be more than one) for a fictitious medal given to people for the services to extreme awesomeness? Please provide reasons. You can use any criteria you wish.

I'll start with two although do have a lot more. I'll write more as it becomes apparent this is a worthwhile thread, not a lost cause :)
Title: Re: Who do you admire and why?
Post by: Neoncamouflage on January 28, 2010, 04:54:43 AM
The Godless Bastard. He says everything I want to, and I credit him with being the reason I first considered myself an atheist. Also one of my favorite sites ever.
Title: Re: Who do you admire and why?
Post by: Tom62 on January 28, 2010, 08:19:26 AM
Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva
For being the first Brazilian president, who is really dedicated to erase poverty and hunger in his country. Although he is a socialist (nobody is perfect ;) ), he managed to handle economical problems very well, changing Brazil into one of the most prosperous states of South-America.

Nelson Rolihlahla Mandela
I hate to admit it, but when Mandela was still in prison, I considered him to be just another Anti-Apartheid activist. However, following his release from prison, Mandela supported reconciliation and negotiation, and helped lead the transition towards multi-racial democracy in South Africa. From that moment on, I deeply admire the guy. He showed that the message of peace and mutual understanding works far better than violence.
Title: Re: Who do you admire and why?
Post by: AlP on January 28, 2010, 08:39:53 AM
Simone de Beauvoir
For her brilliance and thoughts on feminism, ethics and relationships.
Title: Re: Who do you admire and why?
Post by: kelltrill on January 28, 2010, 10:19:47 AM
I second the Madiba vote.
Nelson Mandela was an amazing president and did so much good for this country when he could easily have done the complete opposite. He used his power responsibly and peaceably. I don't see SA having another president as awesome as him for many decades to come.

Richard Dawkins
I think it's important to consider atheist intellectuals, since this is an atheist forum. I recently listened to a two hour podcast of a debate between Dawkins and a Christian, Dr John Lennox. Dawkins was composed and debated flawlessly. I think he deserves our full respect. He has accomplished so much simply by pointing out that the Bible is text totally out of synch with modern morality.
Title: Re: Who do you admire and why?
Post by: pinkocommie on January 28, 2010, 03:40:34 PM
Kurt Vonnegut

His literary voice was a refreshing mix of satirical, whimsical, and candidly honest.  Vonnegut had a way of making the unbearable bearable and he found humor and humanity in every character he wrote.  His gift for showing how imperfect people are shed light on the fact that everyone is flawed and it's through dealing with these flaws in whatever way we figure out how that we become the person we're remembered as and not the person we blindly thought we were.  He was a veteran of WW2 and a father of seven kids, four of whom were adopted.  He was an outspoken atheist, humanist, and free-thinker and he made it a point to cast a light on subjects he felt were being otherwise diminished.  He had this to say about the Iraq war:

Quote"By saying that our leaders are power-drunk chimpanzees, am I in danger of wrecking the morale of our soldiers fighting and dying in the Middle East?" he wrote. "Their morale, like so many bodies, is already shot to pieces. They are being treated, as I never was, like toys a rich kid got for Christmas."

Basically, he was totally awesome. :headbang:
Title: Re: Who do you admire and why?
Post by: Jolly Sapper on January 28, 2010, 04:19:16 PM
Comedians that fall into the same category of Lenny Bruce, George Carlin, Sam Kennison, Stephen Colbert, Jon Stewart, etc.

Unfortunately I cannot choose just one but the reasons are similar to Pinko's reasons for nominating Kurt Vonnegut.  They show us our humanity in both its stupidity and awesomeness.
Title: Re: Who do you admire and why?
Post by: Sheeplauncher on January 28, 2010, 08:33:24 PM
I second Vonnegut and Mandela but for me personally i have a few:

Jefferson: Basically the father of modern libertarianism and was the chief writer of the declaration of independence. He followed and defended the constitution pretty vigorously unlike many today and of all the founders he was probably an atheist.

Warren G. Harding: Most people seem to hate this guy but he balanced the budget and was an outspoken critic of granting full civil rights: “Let the black man vote when he is fit to vote. Prohibit the white man from voting when he is unfit to vote. Whether you like it or not, unless our democracy is a lie, you must stand for that equality." He also said:  "we need a rigid and yet sane economy, combined with fiscal justice, and it must be attended by individual prudence and thrift, which are so essential to this trying hour and reassuring for the future." I really wish we weren't taught to hate this guy in public school but if you do the research he was a damn good president. Heres a good video its pretty long but it awesome: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czcUmnsprQI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czcUmnsprQI)

Penn Jilette: How can i not relate to this guy... he is a funny libertarian atheist. I myself am a libertarian atheist which already probably puts me with about 2% of the population.He always has funny stuff to say either on his views on politics and religion or just about life in general. His Tv show Bullshit with teller is also very amusing

Friedrich von Hayek &  Ludwig Von Mises: Both made significant contributions to the Austrian school of economics which to me is the best school of economics that has been thought up. Being a libertarian and for free markets i connect strongly with most of their ideas. Also the road to serfdom is one of the best books Ive read on economics. Both are also Nobel laureates.

Ayn Rand: A notable atheist who also came up with the idea of Objectivism which is something i connect strongly with. Also Atlas Shrugged is one the best books Ive ever read period even though its 1k + pages.

Ron Paul: Yeah i know hes a whack job when it comes to religion but the man has some principled integrity and has never compromised his values. His ideas on the role of government and economics are very appealing to me and his message of limited government and non-interventionism are very powerful. He didn't vote for the patriot act and has been serving in congress for a very long time. He is also one of the only congressman who truly understands our economic system and took office in the first place because of the Bretton Woods financial conference where the world basically abandoned the gold standard which in his opinion and mine caused many of our current problems.

Theres a few more but those are my main ones  :bananacolor:
Title: Re: Who do you admire and why?
Post by: Will on January 28, 2010, 09:25:44 PM
I'm a big admirer of Congressman Dennis Kucinich. He's a politician, but at the same time he somehow manages to be honest, consistent, and intelligent. I've never seen another politician that manages those while not being totally crazy or fundamentalist. Can you imagine an American politician that supports single-payer healthcare, free college, abolishing the death penalty, focusing aggressively on clean energy, creating a cabinet-level Deportment of Peace, ending the war on drugs, legalizing same-sex marriage, and coming down on the side of workers' rights? He's arguably one of maybe three liberals in congress.

I adore the astrophysicist Neil deGrasse Tyson. He's truly brilliant, but more than that he LOVES science. Every word that comes out of his mouth is enthusiastic and admiring of how the universe works, which is a rare thing. Sure it's messed up what he did to Pluto, but it was done in the name of being objective. BTW, did you know he's an award-winning dancer?

Dawkins, of course.

I admire Noam Chomsky, though we fundamentally disagree about the role of government. He's exceedingly brilliant and never backs down from a debate. And never loses.
Title: Re: Who do you admire and why?
Post by: Sheeplauncher on January 28, 2010, 10:00:11 PM
Ah yes agreed with will on Kucinich he is by far my favorite democrat in congress
Title: Re: Who do you admire and why?
Post by: hismikeness on January 29, 2010, 01:49:34 AM
Quote from: "Will"I adore the astrophysicist Neil deGrasse Tyson. He's truly brilliant, but more than that he LOVES science. Every word that comes out of his mouth is enthusiastic and admiring of how the universe works, which is a rare thing. Sure it's messed up what he did to Pluto, but it was done in the name of being objective. BTW, did you know he's an award-winning dancer?

Neil deGrasse Tyson is awesome. I first encountered him on the show The Universe, and I ended up looking up some of his writings and speeches.

Matter of fact, a few weeks back, we had a family get together, and the hypothetical question "if you could pick any non politician to be president, who would it be" came up, and my little brother instantly drops "Neil deGrasse Tyson". My older brother and parents were like, who?? I just said "Excellent choice" and couldn't come up with anyone better.

I have a random selection of quotes and quips that I use as email signatures, and they come up randomly every email I send. One of my favorites is this quote:

Quote from: "Neil deGrasse Tyson"We stockpile the discoveries of the most brilliant members of our species, allowing us, however strained and with whatever struggle it involved to slowly ascend the ladder of knowledge, maybe compensating for the fact that any one of us is just too stupid to figure it all out.

Brilliant.

I also really admire, believe it or not, Chad Ochocinco. He and I were teammates in college, back when he was simply Chad Johnson. I find all of his "antics" benign and harmless, and I actually think it is funny how up-in-arms the NFL brass get with him when he's just having fun and trying to bring some entertainment to a sometimes boring league. He was (again, believe it or not) the best teammate I ever had.

Hismikeness
Title: Re: Who do you admire and why?
Post by: Will on January 29, 2010, 06:21:49 AM
Quote from: "hismikeness"Matter of fact, a few weeks back, we had a family get together, and the hypothetical question "if you could pick any non politician to be president, who would it be" came up, and my little brother instantly drops "Neil deGrasse Tyson". My older brother and parents were like, who?? I just said "Excellent choice" and couldn't come up with anyone better.
I love proud older brother moments. Every now and then my little brother will drop some knowledge and I just smile and nod.
Title: Re: Who do you admire and why?
Post by: Whitney on January 29, 2010, 06:41:41 AM
Through volunteering with Camp Quest Texas I have come across stories of children who have had to stand up for their lack of belief when mocked by their classmates...I admire those kids; standing up for yourself and not giving into pressure is very very hard for the youth (most adults can't even do it).
Title: Re: Who do you admire and why?
Post by: kelltrill on January 29, 2010, 10:11:16 PM
Quote from: "Will"I admire Noam Chomsky, though we fundamentally disagree about the role of government. He's exceedingly brilliant and never backs down from a debate. And never loses.

I second Chomsky, though for other reasons since I don't know much about his political leanings. I had the fortune of studying a lot of his work in Linguistics and he revolutionised the fields of universal, transformative and formal grammar, and opened the doors to different approaches and methodologies.
 
Also, I was wondering, since we're considering Dawkins why not also consider Christopher Hitchens, Sam Harris and Daniel Dennet? Just curious. I don't know much about the work of the latter two so I'm just putting their names out their.
Title: Re: Who do you admire and why?
Post by: Kylyssa on January 30, 2010, 05:10:38 PM
I third, fourth or whatever Neil deGrasse Tyson for passion and life in regard to science.  And, um, I think he's really hot, too.
Title: Re: Who do you admire and why?
Post by: karadan on February 01, 2010, 10:28:42 AM
Thanks for the responses guys. There are some people you've listed i've not heard of before and am having a great time reading about. I'm going to the library later :)

I just thought of a few more people i admire.

Dame Ellen MaCarthur.

Sir Edmund Hillary.

I like the way the above two people do not have an 'off' button. The concept of giving up just doesn't apply to them. I can only be in awe of people who are able to push themselves so hard through force of will alone.
Title: Re: Who do you admire and why?
Post by: uglyduckling on March 01, 2010, 02:04:39 AM
Peter Mark Roget.

This guy WROTE the Thesaurus.  It's a mind-boggling achievement, if you try to imagine first conceiving of such a tome and then undertaking the task of creating it.
Title: Re: Who do you admire and why?
Post by: Dries on March 01, 2010, 04:29:27 PM
Quote from: "Tom62"Nelson Rolihlahla Mandela
Quote from: "kelltrill"I second the Madiba vote.
Nelson Mandela was an amazing president and did so much good for this country when he could easily have done the complete opposite. He used his power responsibly and peaceably. I don't see SA having another president as awesome as him for many decades to come.

Viva Madiba :up:
Title: Re: Who do you admire and why?
Post by: cate on March 02, 2010, 08:30:41 PM
Jon Stewart

I love this sense of humor, but even more so I adore his sincerity. Every once in a while, he does an interview with someone on an issue that is both complex and, to some degree, frustrating in how it's currently being dealt with. He manages to cut right down to the chase and ask just the right questions. And because he actually listens to the interviewee, he catches any bs in an instant. And he is so fast and witty to strike right back. I'm sure he has a great team, but he also has the kind of personality that he doesn't think himself to be oh so important. His interviews are about the interviewee, not about him. Unfortunately, that's what so many journalists, reporters, and interviewers lack these days.
Title: Re: Who do you admire and why?
Post by: notself on March 02, 2010, 08:52:29 PM
Jon Stewart was voted the most trusted newscaster in America.  Really strange for a comedian and it is a comment on the integrity of regular newscasters.  http://www.timepolls.com/hppolls/archiv ... s_417.html (http://www.timepolls.com/hppolls/archive/poll_results_417.html)
Title: Re: Who do you admire and why?
Post by: Adrian Simmons on March 03, 2010, 01:56:22 AM
David Icke and Alex Jones. They're insightful, and great characters.
Title: Re: Who do you admire and why?
Post by: Ihateyoumike on March 03, 2010, 06:38:33 AM
There's this lady whom I work with named Rhonda. She has cancer. All I know about it is that it's colon cancer and it's pretty damn bad.

I bitch and moan at work about my ultimately minor inconveniences in my life, while I see her somehow keeping a positive outlook every day that she is able to work.

I admire the hell outta her right now.
Title: Re: Who do you admire and why?
Post by: Pharaoh Cat on December 15, 2011, 10:49:41 AM
Temple Grandin is a hero of mine.  So unyielding was her sense of self that she grabbed hold of her autism with her own two hands and by sheer strength of spirit and brilliance of mind she turned it into a super power.

Her web page: http://templegrandin.com/
Title: Re: Who do you admire and why?
Post by: NHOJ on December 16, 2011, 04:19:37 AM
Howard Zinn for a lifetime dedicated to advancing the cause of justice. Read "You Can't Be Neutral on a Moving Train"
Title: Re: Who do you admire and why?
Post by: Sweetdeath on December 16, 2011, 09:37:04 AM
David Bowie. Period.
Without him as a staple and foundation for music and fashion, I don't know where me or a lot of my fav bands inspired by him would be. <3
Title: Re: Who do you admire and why?
Post by: Too Few Lions on December 16, 2011, 12:30:31 PM
Lee Hazlewood, for writing the most beautiful music I've ever heard, and for being a very lovely funny person

Ennio Morricone, for his amazing music too

Jonathan Meades for being very funny, intelligent and a vocal atheist.
Title: Re: Who do you admire and why?
Post by: Sgtmackenzie on December 16, 2011, 01:22:37 PM
Winston Churchill - a Take no prisoners attitude, common sense statesman and free thinker.

Robert Heinlein - A writer on par with the greatest of writers.   His writings and many of his characters encouraged free thinking.

Sgt Charles Stuart MacKenzie - Read his story here -->  http://www.scotlandhereandnow.com/2011/02/sergeant-mackenzie.html (http://www.scotlandhereandnow.com/2011/02/sergeant-mackenzie.html)
Title: Re: Who do you admire and why?
Post by: Gawen on December 16, 2011, 01:26:06 PM
http://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/index.php?topic=8901.0
Title: Re: Who do you admire and why?
Post by: Light on December 21, 2011, 10:04:39 PM
John Lennox, because he demonstrates to me in atheist/religion debates that you can speak intellectually about science, and even make it a career, but that doesn't mean you must abandon all your spiritual beliefs.
Title: Re: Who do you admire and why?
Post by: Asmodean on December 21, 2011, 10:41:03 PM
Quote from: Whitney on January 29, 2010, 06:41:41 AM
Through volunteering with Camp Quest Texas I have come across stories of children who have had to stand up for their lack of belief when mocked by their classmates...I admire those kids; standing up for yourself and not giving into pressure is very very hard for the youth (most adults can't even do it).
Yes, apart from opportunistic a-holes who don't pretend to be something they are not, those people are pretty much all that is left on The Asmo's list... Not counting personal acquaintances, that is.
Title: Re: Who do you admire and why?
Post by: squidfetish on December 21, 2011, 10:49:31 PM
I'll second (or third) Dawkins and Chomsky for sure.

Also Bart D. Ehrman for his contribution to new testament study and making a potentially dry and complex topic accessible to the layman.
Title: Re: Who do you admire and why?
Post by: Crocoduck on December 24, 2011, 04:58:39 AM
James Randi is one of the people I admire most. He's a voice of reason not just where religion is concerned but with fake medical and anywhere myth is taught as truth. Even as a Christian I was a good skeptic on most things like Holistic health care. I credit James as the one who first let me apply skepticism toward my views of religion.