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I want to Know myself :
What is the meaning of the word " human"  ?
And what I was before I become human ?
……………………… truly I want to know myself

when I think that I am  human because of this body . I feel that I am completely wrong . all living creatures have bodies same as me , and more they have advanced properties more than me . and truly I am the weakest creature among all living creatures .

I am unable to carry 7 times more of  my weight like an ant do .
My skin unable to protect me from a cold wither or a hot wither .
And what I count to count !! , many… many things
In senses and protection against viruses and microbes

But , I have been chosen to be the ruler on all these creatures . the authority in my hand and no one can take from me except death . why ?

QuoteBut , I have been chosen to be the ruler on all these creatures . the authority in my hand and no one can take from me except death . why ?

Chosen? Ruler?  Not in my beliefs.  We have the ability to dominate these creatures because of our intelligence, which has developed over thousands of years. We no longer need the physical prowess.  It was touch and go for early man, who was close to becoming extinct a few times.  Some primitive peoples still live in fear of attacks from wild animals.  

As far what we were before we were born, I believe that it was nothing.

Quote from: "some light plz"hello
I want to Know myself :
What is the meaning of the word " human"  ?
And what I was before I become human ?
……………………… truly I want to know myself

when I think that I am  human because of this body . I feel that I am completely wrong . all living creatures have bodies same as me , and more they have advanced properties more than me . and truly I am the weakest creature among all living creatures .

I am unable to carry 7 times more of  my weight like an ant do .
My skin unable to protect me from a cold wither or a hot wither .
And what I count to count !! , many… many things
In senses and protection against viruses and microbes

But , I have been chosen to be the ruler on all these creatures . the authority in my hand and no one can take from me except death . why ?

The part of the human body that allows us to be a successful species is the brain, you have not taken this into account when comparing the relative attributes of different creature. Who chose you to be ruler? Is that you Barrack?

Quote from: "some light plz"hello
But , I have been chosen to be the ruler on all these creatures . the authority in my hand and no one can take from me except death . why ?

I'm pretty sure that another predatory animal, such as a lion or shark, could easily knock the idea that you rule over all animals out of your head.

Where did you get the idea that humans are "rulers" with "authority" over all other animals?  That may be in the Bible but is isn't truth.  The thing that gives us an edge is our technology which provides safe places to hide and advanced weapons yet humans get overtaken by other animals numerous times every year.

some light plz wrote:

But , I have been chosen to be the ruler on all these creatures. the authority in my hand and no one can take from me except death . why ?

  May I ask who it was that chose you to be the ruler of all these creatures.  Who put the authority into your hand.  Which God or Gods or Creator did this, there are dozens if not hundreds of them out there.  I know it is not the God/Jesus for while other Gods may exist I know that God/Jesus does not.  His holy book has been invalidated, his followers and church have been proven to be unholy by their own beliefs.

  So which of the many Gods or Creators that are out there was the one that granted you this authority.  And as I said, since the Christian Bible has been invalidated God/Jesus is not an option.
 

Quote(Richard Dawkins, The Devils Chaplain)
Stand tall, Bipedal Ape. The shark may outswim you, the cheetah outrun you, the swift outfly you, the capuchin outclimb you, the elephant outpower you, the redwood outlast you. But you have the biggest gifts of all: the gift of understanding the ruthlessly cruel process that gave us all existence; the gift of revulsion against its implications; the gift of foresightâ€"something utterly foreign to the blundering short-term ways of natural selectionâ€"and the gift of internalising the very cosmos.

That is what it means to be human.

Ok … I am sorry by saying ruler .

Whatever it is : [ evolution , sudden , genius creator ] .
this one who  gave me this brain which helps me to make inventions and advanced tools  also to increase in knowledge , at the same time this one ignored all other creatures from this great brain why ?.
and more than that  : [ evolution , sudden , genius creator ] helped me to use these creatures for the benefit in my life .

and if we look deeply in nature . we will discover : that many of our advanced technology such as :
1-the advanced technology which predict the natural disasters . also in animals from the beginning .
2-the advanced technology which allows us to see in darkness and night  . it is  in animals from the beginning .
3-the advanced technology which allows us to know the directions at air or on sea . it is in animals from the beginning .
4-the advanced technology which uses object's heat  to discover it  . it is  in animals from the beginning .

At last we consider our advanced technology are fruits for many wise  and scientists worked hard to make their inventions see light . [ and the truth it is only cheating and simulation of the origin ]
At the same time we consider this advanced technology have been created in animals by : [ evolution , sudden , genius creator ]
what will we  consider our thinking  ? a logic ,,, or illogic
why we are the only creature who has this brain to ?

please  ... help me .
I know there is someone is watching me , but I do not know what he wants
thanks

To some light plz

  I am not quite sure what your point is.  If you are a non Christian theist then there is no need to push your theist beliefs.  Letting Atheists know where you stand is one thing but pushing your beliefs makes about as much sense as a KKK member pushing his new line of Nooses in East LA or Watts.  Trying to justify ones beliefs to Atheists makes no sense whatsoever.  Let them know they are talking to a Theist  but do not justify your beliefs.

  If you are a Christian Theist then see paragraph one.  And expect to be ridiculed by me if not them.  While I may be a Theist I despise Christian Theists.
 

some light plz, we are not the only animal that can create tools or solve problems...as far as we know, we just happen to be the most advanced in that area.

Quote from: "some light plz"I know there is someone is watching me , but I do not know what he wants

This is an atheist forum....atheists don't believe there is something [god] watching over anyone.  So, I don't know why you are asking us for comments on that.

Quote from: "some light plz"Ok … I am sorry by saying ruler .

Whatever it is : [ evolution , sudden , genius creator ] .
this one who  gave me this brain which helps me to make inventions and advanced tools  also to increase in knowledge , at the same time this one ignored all other creatures from this great brain why ?.
and more than that  : [ evolution , sudden , genius creator ] helped me to use these creatures for the benefit in my life .

and if we look deeply in nature . we will discover : that many of our advanced technology such as :
1-the advanced technology which predict the natural disasters . also in animals from the beginning .
2-the advanced technology which allows us to see in darkness and night  . it is  in animals from the beginning .
3-the advanced technology which allows us to know the directions at air or on sea . it is in animals from the beginning .
4-the advanced technology which uses object's heat  to discover it  . it is  in animals from the beginning .

At last we consider our advanced technology are fruits for many wise  and scientists worked hard to make their inventions see light . [ and the truth it is only cheating and simulation of the origin ]
At the same time we consider this advanced technology have been created in animals by : [ evolution , sudden , genius creator ]
what will we  consider our thinking  ? a logic ,,, or illogic
why we are the only creature who has this brain to ?

please  ... help me .
I know there is someone is watching me , but I do not know what he wants
thanks

No species has all the best atribues off all the others.

Not all species will react every time to all disasters.

Most animals don't have better night vision then us. Those that do are for the most part nocturnal so thier senses are set up for it. We are a diurnal specias we can see well in the light. Besides some that see in the dark use other senses ie; echo location for bats infrared for snakes.

Again nowhere near all species do, only some that live in water. We don't live in water and never had a evolutionary priority for it.

For the most part only reptiles see infrared, and then to varying degrees.

We did not evolve in the same envirnments with the same priorities that other animals have. It's rediculous to think we would need the same senses other animals have. What we did evolve was a high powered brian that allows us to understand how those other senses work and mimic them with technology. A perfect being who had wanted us to rule over animals would have given us even better senses then other species already posses. Rather then evolving the ability to outsee or outhear or overpower our predaters we evolved the ability to outthink them.

QuoteMay I ask who it was that chose you to be the ruler of all these creatures. Who put the authority into your hand. Which God or Gods or Creator did this,

Smith and Wesson

To G-Roll

  LOL actually I think it started with a rock moved to jaw bone and then pointed stick.  Now lasers, cruise missiles and nukes.

 

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QuoteMay I ask who it was that chose you to be the ruler of all these creatures. Who put the authority into your hand. Which God or Gods or Creator did this,

Smith and Wesson

we will see about this ,not  its time [ ruler , authority ] .

Thomas Edison  known  as one of the great scientists , by his great invention the light bulb ,
The problem that we are facing with his bulb :
1-   breakable .
2-   sometimes it does not work , even if it is new .[ factory's error ]
3-   from time to time we need to change it .
these are the familiar problems , but truly from deep of my heart [ thank you Thomas Edison ] you worked hard , day and night  .. you wrote your name in the list of greats humans in history . I and many people in this earth are thankful this man , who opened a wide Scope in light .

but we ignored  thanking   the  greatest inventor of this huge giant fire ball  [ the Sun ] , and his invention [ the sun ] :
1-   un-breakable .
2-   always at exact time never delay .
3-   spread its heat on earth .
4-   helpful in directions .
5-    without it there will be no life upon this earth .

When are we going to thank him with the way which he wants ?

QuoteTo G-Roll

LOL actually I think it started with a rock moved to jaw bone and then pointed stick. Now lasers, cruise missiles and nukes.

Quotewe will see about this ,not its time [ ruler , authority ] .

it was originally a joke, but when you think about it....  Whitney mentioned a lion putting us in our place. well i know lions are not bullet proof. and some assholes actually hunt (or hunted) them for sheer sport and fun.
and id rather fight a lion with an assault rifle than a pointy stick. that just sounds so ridiculous that im not going to delete it.

Quotebut we ignored thanking the greatest inventor of this huge giant fire ball [ the Sun ] , and his invention [ the sun ] :
1- un-breakable .
2- always at exact time never delay .
3- spread its heat on earth .
4- helpful in directions .
5- without it there will be no life upon this earth .

When are we going to thank him with the way which he wants ?

if i were in a better mood id discuss your preaching. but im not so im just gonna call you a troll instead.

Awesome picture of Ra, the Egyptian Sun god.
(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi301.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fnn60%2FZenkar_2008%2FAnime%2520Guys%2FRa_by_GENZOMAN.jpg&hash=a598516c4a2a88f3ebcfbd3d1498e8b3075cc4b4)

Speaking of all these animals that we humans rule -- aside from trolls who seem to be immune to our human demands to leave us alone -- no mention thus far of the millions and millions of microscopic animals that rule us. They manage our digestion, float in our bloodstream, nest in our comfy crevaces, and swarm over and in our skin. Without many of which, we would die (more often than not from other microscopic critters). We are superstructure high-rises for our single-celled overlords. Thinking superstructure high-rises, true, but high-rises nevertheless.

 

Quote from: "Thom Phelps"Speaking of all these animals that we humans rule -- aside from trolls who seem to be immune to our human demands to leave us alone -- no mention thus far of the millions and millions of microscopic animals that rule us. They manage our digestion, float in our bloodstream, nest in our comfy crevaces, and swarm over and in our skin. Without many of which, we would die (more often than not from other microscopic critters). We are superstructure high-rises for our single-celled overlords. Thinking superstructure high-rises, true, but high-rises nevertheless.

 :pop:

I agree with you G-Roll , well done Thom Phelps
but ??? we will wait until we finish from the main CASE { GOD }

Well done indeed Thom Phelps. And G-Roll.

Quote from: "some light plz"but we ignored  thanking   the  greatest inventor of this huge giant fire ball  [ the Sun ] , and his invention [ the sun ] :
1-   un-breakable .
2-   always at exact time never delay .
3-   spread its heat on earth .
4-   helpful in directions .
5-    without it there will be no life upon this earth .

When are we going to thank him with the way which he wants ?

FYI, this is preaching too.

A correct way of approaching the above statement would be to offer some sort of reason for why you think that there is a creator of the universe.

Asking atheists when they are going to thank 'him with the way which he wants' is like asking a Young Earth Christian when are they going to start appreciating the evolutionary process.

I don't know why, but this topic strikes me more as preaching than trolling, I don't think the OP is doing it with the intention of annoying us. It's like when a child makes their parent breakfast in bread, nothing satisfying to chew on, leaves a mess to clean up, but kind of sweet in an incompetent way.

Having said that, my troll sniffing abilities are quite poor.

Edit: one thing in my mate Edison's (Tomee to his friends) invention is that it will never deplete the source of the radiation pressure that holds it in equilibrium, collapsing in on itself, before burning the helium in it's core and engulfing the earth in a  hydrogen plasma of 5000K, destroying all life and leaving the earth a charred and molten hell like place, before it goes out and leaves the planets of the solar system to a freezing, black death.

Edit2: CHECK THE POST COUNT :bananacolor:  :banna:  :banna:  :banna:  

Quote from: "SSY"Edit2: CHECK THE POST COUNT :bananacolor:  :banna:  :banna:  :banna:  :devil:  

Ruined now, such a shame, will have to wait for 999.