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Title: How many communion wafers does it take to make a whole Jesus
Post by: Heretical Rants on July 05, 2009, 10:23:12 PM
Well?

One (http://www.augsburgfortress.org/store/bulletin.jsp?clsid=153812&productgroupid=216) box?  Two?

Or is it done by volume?
Title: Re: How many communion wafers does it take to make a whole Jesus
Post by: Chimera on July 05, 2009, 10:31:19 PM
I think it depends on whether the wafer is white or whole-wheat.
Title: Re: How many communion wafers does it take to make a whole Jesus
Post by: Will on July 05, 2009, 10:39:13 PM
Do they have organic wafers yet? I couldn't imagine having a wafer with high fructose corn syrup or bleached white flour.
Title: Re: How many communion wafers does it take to make a whole Jesus
Post by: Recusant on July 06, 2009, 01:15:14 AM
This is a question with many interesting sides.  To construct a figurine with the dimensions the of your average 'cross on the bedroom wall,' I would imagine a box of 1000 should do the trick.  Add some holy water and use the result like papier mâché.  For a more substantial sculptural piece, I think you might need a couple dozen of those boxes.  While your Lutheran site is good for the variety available, the non-denominational Christian site is having a sale (http://www.christian-communion-supplies.com/Communion_Wafers_p/rcwcw.htm&Click=363?gclid=CMWb3rPbv5sCFd4B4wod2l-MEQ) which beats the Lutheran's price, and they offer free shipping on orders over $175, for the ambitious sculptors.

I think that if you're talking from a mystic cannibalism (theophagy?) point of view, the Catholic dogma is "100% pure Jesus in every bite."  And it works sort of like fractals, in that even the tiniest crumb of consecrated host is still 100% Jesus.

Apparently if you live in Quebec you don't even have to order online, but can stroll down to your friendly local grocery store for some cheap, healthy Jesus snacks (http://www.dailygrail.com/node/2453).  Yummy (not) and possibly cheaper than online, for the potential artist.

 
Quote from: "Will"Do they have organic wafers yet? I couldn't imagine having a wafer with high fructose corn syrup or bleached white flour.

Back to the Lutheran site:  Probably not organic, but these babies (http://www.augsburgfortress.org/store/item.jsp?clsid=188059&productgroupid=0&isbn=6000249446) might satisfy some of the dietary concerns of Jesus munchers with more sensitive tummies.  Certainly much more expensive than your average body of god, though.
Title: Re: How many communion wafers does it take to make a whole Jesus
Post by: Chimera on July 06, 2009, 03:36:56 AM
Dang, I've got a hankerin' for some Jesus bread now.
Title: Re: How many communion wafers does it take to make a whole Jesus
Post by: Heretical Rants on July 06, 2009, 09:26:09 PM
Quote from: "Recusant"Apparently if you live in Quebec you don't even have to order online, but can stroll down to your friendly local grocery store for some cheap, healthy Jesus snacks (http://www.dailygrail.com/node/2453).
Ah, but those really don't count; they lack the quality of being imbibed with magic words.
Title: Re: How many communion wafers does it take to make a whole Jesus
Post by: pedricero matao on July 07, 2009, 02:26:26 PM
Quote from: "Heretical Rants"
Quote from: "Recusant"Apparently if you live in Quebec you don't even have to order online, but can stroll down to your friendly local grocery store for some cheap, healthy Jesus snacks (http://www.dailygrail.com/node/2453).
Ah, but those really don't count; they lack the quality of being imbibed with magic words.

Nothing new under the sun:
(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.campesinatormes.com%2Fimages%2Fobleas.jpg&hash=f6a15ccfa1474bd6467dc5f8c8deeab281397d75)

Those are traditional here. As Heretical Rants said, for catholic people if they haven't been blessed by a priest they are just normal flat bread, so you don't get into trouble about sinning or whatever.

Here they sell them from as long as I can remember, sometimes made with sugar. Taste nice.
Title: Re: How many communion wafers does it take to make a whole Jesus
Post by: Whitney on July 07, 2009, 06:41:40 PM
I tweeted this thread and within minutes got a comment from a non-catholic who thought it was necessary to tell me that non-Catholics reject the idea of transubstantiation.  Of course it is nonsense, that's why we make fun of it...I also don't see how it has a Biblical basis; the 'scene' where Jesus tells the disciples what to do to ritually remember him is obviously (to me) symbolic.  Really, how weird would it be to be eating God?  I wonder if the realization of how odd that is accounts for why I know a ton more ex-Catholics than I know Catholics.
Title: Re: How many communion wafers does it take to make a whole Jesus
Post by: Will on July 07, 2009, 06:56:50 PM
Actually, that's not completely true. Some sects of Methodists, Lutherans and a few others have adopted a stance of either transubstantiation or near-transubstantiation. The LCMS teaches that through the blessing of the wafers and wine, Christ's body and blood are truly present in the Lord's Supper. But they still insist that it's not transubstantiation.
Title: Re: How many communion wafers does it take to make a whole Jesus
Post by: thiolsulfate on July 07, 2009, 11:37:43 PM
From a Catholic perspective:

I've had two priests in the same parish tell me two different things -- so fuck all.