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Title: Fundie Science Textbook
Post by: curiosityandthecat on May 11, 2009, 09:36:38 PM
Ran across this and through y'all would get a kick outta this. Then again, it just might make you cry.

Science the Fundie Way (http://www.evolvedrational.com/2009/05/science-fundie-way.html)

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Title: Re: Fundie Science Textbook
Post by: McQ on May 11, 2009, 11:52:04 PM
Well, the fundies may have god, but we have......


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Title: Re: Fundie Science Textbook
Post by: seasonsofmadness on May 12, 2009, 03:13:21 AM
That might be one of the books that my parents made me use when I was home schooled. I remember half of the chapters in my science books were always about the evils of evolution, and evidence for creation, and shit like that.
Title: Re: Fundie Science Textbook
Post by: rlrose328 on May 12, 2009, 08:07:20 PM
Any idea what book that's from, curio?  I've got the "Of Pandas and People" ID textbook and wow, it's as scary as that.  Truly frightening!
Title: Re: Fundie Science Textbook
Post by: MariaEvri on May 12, 2009, 08:22:08 PM
just when I thought I've seen all..
this book is so funny and yet so sad at the same time
minus one on humanity
Title: Re: Fundie Science Textbook
Post by: VanReal on May 13, 2009, 12:14:55 AM
I bet that's a Texas textbook since we seem to be leading the way in this idiocy....as usual!  I love the Gideon test at the bottom.  I guess the authors threw that in to make sure no one requires a test for what's being written in the text.  And: "complex models" from the meteorologists?  Are they so complex that this science book can't describe them?  Arrrgggh.  Again I am so thrilled my son graduates next year.
Title: Re: Fundie Science Textbook
Post by: MariaEvri on May 13, 2009, 02:15:45 PM
Quote from: "VanReal"I bet that's a Texas textbook since we seem to be leading the way in this idiocy....as usual!  I love the Gideon test at the bottom.  I guess the authors threw that in to make sure no one requires a test for what's being written in the text.  And: "complex models" from the meteorologists?  Are they so complex that this science book can't describe them?  Arrrgggh.  Again I am so thrilled my son graduates next year.

oh hey are you from Texas? Did you hear? The vote is in. Your state is now only 6000 years old :P
Title: Re: Fundie Science Textbook
Post by: curiosityandthecat on May 13, 2009, 02:59:11 PM
I've no idea where it comes from, unfortunately. Maybe the person running the blog would know.

Still: it's fucking terrifying, when you think about it.
Title: Re: Fundie Science Textbook
Post by: PipeBox on May 13, 2009, 04:16:34 PM
Woah.  That was amazing.  The first paragraph was propaganda, but hey, at least it wasn't bastardizing science (like Doctored Doctorate Dino does).  Depending on what grade this is for, most of the information is good enough, though they might wanted to have described deposition instead of just sublimation (when I was a kid, I ate up the trivial information describing rarely occurring processes), but I guess there isn't much experience to be had in making dry ice.  My only complaint about the first two paragraphs is that the writer seems more interested in inspiring interest in his god than science, and it's supposedly a science textbook.   :confused:

The amazing part is the bottom, though.  The argument that since science completely disagrees with the described event, it means it was a bona fide miracle proving the god's existence.  So because it could not have naturally happened, but was written down, it adds to the veracity of the Bible.  Right.  Oh, but children, don't go asking God to repeat this miracle, that would make you a dirty doubter!  God's word alone is enough evidence!

Ow ow ow ow.
Title: Re: Fundie Science Textbook
Post by: BadPoison on May 13, 2009, 04:25:36 PM
Quote from: "MariaEvri"
Quote from: "VanReal"I bet that's a Texas textbook since we seem to be leading the way in this idiocy....as usual!  I love the Gideon test at the bottom.  I guess the authors threw that in to make sure no one requires a test for what's being written in the text.  And: "complex models" from the meteorologists?  Are they so complex that this science book can't describe them?  Arrrgggh.  Again I am so thrilled my son graduates next year.

oh hey are you from Texas? Did you hear? The vote is in. Your state is now only 6000 years old :eek2:
Title: Re: Fundie Science Textbook
Post by: MariaEvri on May 13, 2009, 04:31:25 PM
Quote from: "BadPoison"
Quote from: "MariaEvri"
Quote from: "VanReal"I bet that's a Texas textbook since we seem to be leading the way in this idiocy....as usual!  I love the Gideon test at the bottom.  I guess the authors threw that in to make sure no one requires a test for what's being written in the text.  And: "complex models" from the meteorologists?  Are they so complex that this science book can't describe them?  Arrrgggh.  Again I am so thrilled my son graduates next year.

oh hey are you from Texas? Did you hear? The vote is in. Your state is now only 6000 years old :eek2:

yeah I stumbled upon it yesterday. Apparently there was some kind of vote to decide ?
but I guess thats subject for another threat :)
Title: Re: Fundie Science Textbook
Post by: SSY on May 15, 2009, 09:26:44 AM
What a waste of paper.
Title: Re: Fundie Science Textbook
Post by: SektionTen on May 23, 2009, 04:20:50 AM
That Fundamentalist textbook is garbage, but most accurate science textbooks aren't much better. I reccomend not letting school get in the way of you child's education by letting them read the actual papers written by the scientists who were so essential in forming scientific knowledge today. Some people might think that those papers are two advanced for grade-school aged children, but you'd be surprised. Not only do those articles include incredibly accurate detail, but the enthusiasm of the authors is so much more than in a text-book that most children would want to read more just from the excitement of the written word.

Just don't do something stupid and give your kid a modern essay on alternative hexamoblite crystal formations in heat treated steel and their applications in more eficient refrigeration techniques.  ;)
Title: Re: Fundie Science Textbook
Post by: Sophus on May 24, 2009, 06:40:27 AM
Quote from: "SektionTen"That Fundamentalist textbook is garbage, but most accurate science textbooks aren't much better. I reccomend not letting school get in the way of you child's education by letting them read the actual papers written by the scientists who were so essential in forming scientific knowledge today. Some people might think that those papers are two advanced for grade-school aged children, but you'd be surprised. Not only do those articles include incredibly accurate detail, but the enthusiasm of the authors is so much more than in a text-book that most children would want to read more just from the excitement of the written word.

Just don't do something stupid and give your kid a modern essay on alternative hexamoblite crystal formations in heat treated steel and their applications in more eficient refrigeration techniques.  ;)
:hail:

Is this the book from Jesus Camp? lol
Title: Re: Fundie Science Textbook
Post by: SSY on May 24, 2009, 04:04:30 PM
Quote from: "SektionTen"That Fundamentalist textbook is garbage, but most accurate science textbooks aren't much better. I reccomend not letting school get in the way of you child's education by letting them read the actual papers written by the scientists who were so essential in forming scientific knowledge today. Some people might think that those papers are two advanced for grade-school aged children, but you'd be surprised. Not only do those articles include incredibly accurate detail, but the enthusiasm of the authors is so much more than in a text-book that most children would want to read more just from the excitement of the written word.

Just don't do something stupid and give your kid a modern essay on alternative hexamoblite crystal formations in heat treated steel and their applications in more eficient refrigeration techniques.  ;)

Are you mad? Textbooks are written in such a way as to teach laymen about science. Journal articles etc are written for a highly scientifically litterate audience, most of whom will already be experts in the field, or at least very well educated. Most of them would be completley un-intelligable to someone who has not had a very thorough grounding in science before hand. Along with the fact that papaers are not instructional, and therefor never actually teach you to DO anything, they make an awful choice for learning, unless you are already in a university and are embarking on specialised project work or a grad course. When you mentioned children, I assume you mean kids of 14 and under? What on earth papaers would you suggest they read?
Title: Re: Fundie Science Textbook
Post by: Heretical Rants on June 01, 2009, 03:18:25 AM
Quote from: "SektionTen"alternative hexamoblite crystal formations in heat treated steel and their applications in more eficient refrigeration techniques.  :)