Has anyone seen this?
Without GOD, our week would be: Sinday, Mournday, Tearsday, Wasteday, Thirstday, Fightday & Shatterday.
Think we can come up with a witty atheist version?
Quote from: "Sophus"Has anyone seen this?
Without GOD, our week would be: Sinday, Mournday, Tearsday, Wasteday, Thirstday, Fightday & Shatterday.
Think we can come up with a witty atheist version?
Sure... I got one...
Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday
(don't these all have astrological or pagan origins anyway?)
Maybe the atheist version would just be a more rational one - instead of days, weeks, months it could just be:
1/365, 2/365, 3/365, ... 365/365
heck, most of those would be shorter anyway.
Wither be the weekend,
JoeActor
QuoteMaybe the atheist version would just be a more rational one - instead of days, weeks, months it could just be:
1/365, 2/365, 3/365, ... 365/365
heck, most of those would be shorter anyway.
That already exists it's called the Jullian calender. The military uses it for certain purposes. The only difference is it goes 001, 002, 003,
Quote from: "joeactor"Sure... I got one...
Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday
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The only rational way to name the days of the week is as follows:
eday
acosday
-1day
sqrtday
-1day
-1day
The final (7th) day does not have a name. It seems inefficient not to use the empty string as a day name. Note that the 3rd, 5th and 6th days have the same name. This convention is to honor the following mathematical fact:
e^(acos(-1)*sqrt(-1)) = -1
Which clearly has divine significance. And it's true!
TO MAKE THINGS CLEAR: In Europe, "republican" means "opposed to monacrhy" (that's the original meaning of the word)
Take a look at this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Republican_Calendar
If there were never any god beliefs then the days of the week would be named after (if they were named after anyone at all) famous people that contributed to the world in some big way...so:
Newtday, Einsday, Darday, Viciday, Curieday, Archimeday, Edisonday
Maybe the days would be renamed on occasion when someone more important deserved a spot on the list.
Each day should be randomly generated 24 hours before hand, that way we would no longer need to record dates in our history.
13th of January, 2087 would become , sdhibvfidvbday, 14th would be p807asdvbyday etc
Much easier.
If we're renaming the days of the week, I'd like it to be something simple, maybe one syllable each. And have none of them sound alike at all. How about Do, Re, Mi, Fa, So, La and Ti?
As far as an "atheist" version, I'd like to give them back their Latin names, which started in mythology, but can be traced now to science. Lunae (Monday), Marti (Tuesday), Mercuri (Wednesday), Iovis (Thursday), Veneris (Friday), Saturni (Saturday), and Solis (Sunday). The names translate to our celestial brothers and sisters: Moon, Mars, Mercury, Jupiter, Venus, Saturn, and Sun. There's something very regal and astronomical about it.
I've got it!
How about this?
1. Sneezy
2. Sleepy
3. Dopey
4. Doc
5. Happy
6. Bashful
7. Grumpy
As long as were renaming the days why don't we swith to a much more logical base 10 system. For hours and days. The number of days and months we have now are probaly had religious significance to the romans which explains thier grouping, by why the hell did the first clock makers decide on a arbitrary grouping of 6 tens in 6 tens in 24. Not logical groupings at all. The metric system is much more effeciant and logical then the weirdly grouped standard system we use in the US. (at least I understand the reason we started using it) I wonder why when measurements were being standardised in Europe they diden't extend to time.
Quote from: "Tanker"As long as were renaming the days why don't we swith to a much more logical base 10 system. For hours and days. The number of days and months we have now are probaly had religious significance to the romans which explains thier grouping, by why the hell did the first clock makers decide on a arbitrary grouping of 6 tens in 6 tens in 24. Not logical groupings at all. The metric system is much more effeciant and logical then the weirdly grouped standard system we use in the US. (at least I understand the reason we started using it) I wonder why when measurements were being standardised in Europe they diden't extend to time.
Good! It would make sense to place the most importance on rotation and revolution, so...
365.25 rotations per revolution, over ten months... that's 36.525 days per month. Average that out, and you get 36-day months plus 5 special days in the last month (6 on a leap year, which is a good idea). The real question is whether to make hours longer or shorter. 10 hours a day seems a lot more simple than 100, so let's say 10, but the "hour" thing doesn't seem very... metric. It would be best to use metric prefixes for everything, based on the year and the day. Of course, replacing month with "deciyear" really isn't too good, it doesn't sound right. Even the Latin doesn't fall off the tongue; "deciannus". So I guess it's time to rename month and year! Revolve in Latin is "volubilis", so how about "decivol" for month and "roto" is rotation, so maybe "deciro" for hour? 10 decivols a year, and 10 deciros a day. Minute would have to be centirol and second would be milirol. And this could be taken down to nano etc. very easily based on the rotation of the earth as the base.
So, to summarize:
1 year = 1 year
1 decivol ~ 1.2 months ~ 36 days (except the last decivol, which will have 5- 6 additional days)
1 day = 1 day
1 deciro = 2.4 hours
Everything is base ten.
Edit: I guess it'd have to be 6 weeks of 6 days per month, skipping a day on the last month every 3 out of 4 years.
One day, today, tomorrow, the day after tomorrow, yesterday, the day before yesterday and another day.
Quote from: "Will"Quote from: "Tanker"As long as were renaming the days why don't we swith to a much more logical base 10 system. For hours and days. The number of days and months we have now are probaly had religious significance to the romans which explains thier grouping, by why the hell did the first clock makers decide on a arbitrary grouping of 6 tens in 6 tens in 24. Not logical groupings at all. The metric system is much more effeciant and logical then the weirdly grouped standard system we use in the US. (at least I understand the reason we started using it) I wonder why when measurements were being standardised in Europe they diden't extend to time.
Good! It would make sense to place the most importance on rotation and revolution, so...
365.25 rotations per revolution, over ten months... that's 36.525 days per month. Average that out, and you get 36-day months plus 5 special days in the last month (6 on a leap year, which is a good idea). The real question is whether to make hours longer or shorter. 10 hours a day seems a lot more simple than 100, so let's say 10, but the "hour" thing doesn't seem very... metric. It would be best to use metric prefixes for everything, based on the year and the day. Of course, replacing month with "deciyear" really isn't too good, it doesn't sound right. Even the Latin doesn't fall off the tongue; "deciannus". So I guess it's time to rename month and year! Revolve in Latin is "volubilis", so how about "decivol" for month and "roto" is rotation, so maybe "deciro" for hour? 10 decivols a year, and 10 deciros a day. Minute would have to be centirol and second would be milirol. And this could be taken down to nano etc. very easily based on the rotation of the earth as the base.
So, to summarize:
1 year = 1 year
1 decivol ~ 1.2 months ~ 36 days (except the last decivol, which will have 5- 6 additional days)
1 day = 1 day
1 deciro = 2.4 hours
Everything is base ten.
Edit: I guess it'd have to be 6 weeks of 6 days per month, skipping a day on the last month every 3 out of 4 years.
Okay and how would we count that on our knuckles to determine what decivol we are in and how many days that last decivol has in it in a given year? And what would a minute be when we are counting them down to something? This would be confusing for a lot of us, of course I am sure it'd become digital so I guess it would be okay. Or maybe there would be some kind of conversion table to get us in sync for the first five years or so.
I'm fine with the Godless version above, as long as we'd be godless I don't care what we call them. Wasteday actually sounds good to me, kind of like my current Sundays.
QuoteOkay and how would we count that on our knuckles to determine what decivol we are in and how many days that last decivol has in it in a given year? And what would a minute be when we are counting them down to something? This would be confusing for a lot of us, of course I am sure it'd become digital so I guess it would be okay. Or maybe there would be some kind of conversion table to get us in sync for the first five years or so.
I'm fine with the Godless version above, as long as we'd be godless I don't care what we call them. Wasteday actually sounds good to me, kind of like my current Sundays.
It would work just like a converion from metric to standard. Completly different standards of measurement that do the same thing but the base ten system of metric is more logical and in the end easier to use, just as a base ten time scale would. I serriously dought that it would ever happen for the same reason that the US has never switched to metic even though over the years it has been brought up. It's hard to change a system that so many people are comfortable with even if that system is arbitrary. This is just a thought exercise. Though I know it's not how the thread started, funny by the way.
Quote from: "Tanker"QuoteOkay and how would we count that on our knuckles to determine what decivol we are in and how many days that last decivol has in it in a given year? And what would a minute be when we are counting them down to something? This would be confusing for a lot of us, of course I am sure it'd become digital so I guess it would be okay. Or maybe there would be some kind of conversion table to get us in sync for the first five years or so.
I'm fine with the Godless version above, as long as we'd be godless I don't care what we call them. Wasteday actually sounds good to me, kind of like my current Sundays.
It would work just like a converion from metric to standard. Completly different standards of measurement that do the same thing but the base ten system of metric is more logical and in the end easier to use, just as a base ten time scale would. I serriously dought that it would ever happen for the same reason that the US has never switched to metic even though over the years it has been brought up. It's hard to change a system that so many people are comfortable with even if that system is arbitrary. This is just a thought exercise. Though I know it's not how the thread started, funny by the way.
Got it:) In payroll employers use a 100 minute clock rather than 60 minute, took me a bit to get used to when I took over that department but now I couldn't imagine going back. Biggest problem is always thinking in quarters now.
I'm in for 5 day's week. The problem that we have now is that we work too much and have too little time free for ourselves and our families. By eliminating two working days, factories would reduce environmental pollution; we would reduce the need for natural resources and would no longer over produce. To do the same amount of work in three working days, companies would have to hire more people. So my 5 day's week would also solve the unemployment problem. Another great advantage is that we would eliminate the the "holy" 6th and 7th days of the Torah and Bible in one single stroke. So no more church bells ringing on Sundays!
Whos to say it wouldn't be a 10 day week with 2 day or even 3 days off. Or if it was a 5 day week mabey with only 1 day off. In this hypothetical world of base 10 time we would have to completly rescedual how we lived. Holidays (ie; the 4th of july) would still happen on the cronoligical day of where the Earth was positioned, but nothing else would need to be the same. Mabey move the new year to a soltice or eqinox.
Perhaps we could do away with the whole cataloging of time altogether. If what matters most is the present, we could emphasize that by having only three terms for time: lasterday (my daughter's term when she was younger for any time in the past), now, and time-forth.
Quote from: "jrosebud"Perhaps we could do away with the whole cataloging of time altogether. If what matters most is the present, we could emphasize that by having only three terms for time: lasterday (my daughter's term when she was younger for any time in the past), now, and time-forth.
Now that's thinking outside the box! Very minimalist and naturalistic.
Quote from: "jrosebud"Perhaps we could do away with the whole cataloging of time altogether. If what matters most is the present, we could emphasize that by having only three terms for time: lasterday (my daughter's term when she was younger for any time in the past), now, and time-forth.
Great idea, I just wonder how we'd deal with appointments, bus-, train- and plane- timetables etc.
Quote from: "Tom62"Quote from: "jrosebud"Perhaps we could do away with the whole cataloging of time altogether. If what matters most is the present, we could emphasize that by having only three terms for time: lasterday (my daughter's term when she was younger for any time in the past), now, and time-forth.
Great idea, I just wonder how we'd deal with appointments, bus-, train- and plane- timetables etc.
I've been reading too much Nihilistic and Existential philosophy lately. Not really useful, but elegant, no?