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my question is simple do u believe there’s a judgment day and a life after death ?
for me i see there must be judgment day or i’ll be pissed of so much coz jerks can get away with their stupid Action
for the second thing after life issue  it freaks me out that i’ll live just few years and then i’ll become just like dust nothing more nothing else .where all the hard work i did in my entire life would go ?!!!!  :brick:

Of course not. Hence... Atheist.

You just have to accept that there will always be bad people. Its just life. I doubt any of these people are actually happy though, and they live a pretty unfulfilling life I would imagine.

And thus the drama of the human condition.

I see no reason to assume any sort of supernatural judgement exists.  It's not like our desire for things to be fair means they will be fair.

Hey wazzz - wazzzzup? ;)

This is one of the reasons I love Dr. Timothy Leary. Shortly before he died of cancer in 1996, he said, "[Deciding how] you die is the most important thing you ever do."

It's not the being dead part that's important; it's how you get there and what you do before it.

All the good work you do is the  afterlife. Everyone, everything affected by good work is improved and embiggened*, and the ripples and memories go on for who knows how long,right?

*Simpsons coined it.

Quote from: "curiosityandthecat"It's not the being dead part that's important; it's how you get there and what you do before it.

Hear him, hear him!

Quote from: "SallyMutant"All the good work you do is the afterlife. Everyone, everything affected by good work is improved and embiggened*, and the ripples and memories go on for who knows how long,right?

Maybe, but:

Quote from: "Percy Shelley"And on the pedestal these words appear:
"My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!"
Nothing beside remains: round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare,
The lone and level sands stretch far away.

On the other hand,

Quote from: "Alfred Tennyson"Our echoes roll from soul to soul,
And grow for ever and for ever.

If the idea of doing lasting good makes you happy, then do good (and hope it lasts :D

i accidentally made two posts.

Quote from: "wazzz"where all the hard work i did in my entire life would go ?!!!!  :brick:

this kind of reminded me of Ayn Rand's philosophy, "objectivism". i want to suggest a book to you called "the fountainhead" if you haven't already read it.

Ayn Rand was mean.

thanx guys u really cheered me up with ur talking thanx all Mr.Green

Quote from: "wazzz"my question is simple do u believe there’s a judgment day and a life after death ?
for me i see there must be judgment day or i’ll be pissed of so much coz jerks can get away with their stupid Action
for the second thing after life issue  it freaks me out that i’ll live just few years and then i’ll become just like dust nothing more nothing else .where all the hard work i did in my entire life would go ?!!!!  :brick:

I don't believe in judgment or life after death.

What I see here is that the idea of right bastards  getting away scott-free with their bastardy offends your sense of what is fair.  Why not work to achieve more fairness in life by being fair to others and speaking out against unfairness done to others?

As to becoming dust after you die - who cares?  You certainly won't.  You won't exist to care.  People will remember you for a time.

Call me a sap but I think that some intangibles "live on" after we die.  If you make it a point to be nurturing and loving, the love you have expressed towards others will multiply and grow long after you are gone.  Just as the glimmer of love that stirred in the consciousness of some fuzzy little creature millions of years ago as it clutched its squalling offspring to its breast to suckle has spread to loosely encompass a world, the offspring of the love and kindness you create will continue long after you are gone.  Or at least it might until mammalian life fizzles out and dies.  

Regardless, you and I will be dead anyway so we won't care.  The best that you can do is to add to the positive aspects of the world rather than to subtract from them.

This is part of why I'm a hedonist.  Life is short and delicious so I'm going to eat it up until I fall over dead.  

Life - available for a limited time only.  Get yours while you can.

Some "feel-good" stuff:

Attributed to Dr. James Watson:

QuoteI don't think we're here for anything, we're just products of evolution. You can say 'Gee, your life must be pretty bleak if you don't think there's a purpose' but I'm anticipating a good lunch.

Attributed to Mark Twain:

QuoteI do not fear death, in view of the fact that I had been dead for billions and billions of years before I was born, and had not suffered the slightest inconvenience from it.

How about putting this on your tombstone?
(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Foctober-country.com%2Fwychingwell%2Fww-graphics%2Fww-tomb_03.jpg&hash=2fed4fcb120f55a94938d04d1bf12a86a5081211)

Never take life or death too seriously.  In keeping with this mantra, and, just to keep things light-hearted,

Quote from: "Kylyssa"Call me a sap but I think that some intangibles "live on" after we die.

Okay.  You're a sap!  

I deffinatly don't.

If there was, who's would be right? I mean even moving away from the big Judeo Christian threesome there, of  which there are considerably more subsects and beliefs on the afterlife all there own, there have been literally THOUSANDS of religions in human history all with exactly the same amount of evidence for each. So whos right? Whos judgement is the right one? Which parameters should you follow? If you are going to "heaven" according to a hundred religions you'll still go to "hell" according to hundreds of others.

All religions have, or do say they are the right one all say that if you don't follow their dogma you don't get into their version of heaven. All have exactly the same justification to their claims, which is to say none. Just live your life the best you know. Thats all any of us can do.

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Well the judgement thing does not sound very logical (well, in fact it doesn't even sound physically possible) to me but... accepting it as a posibility, just think that hey! you are screwed already, you are dead! what else could happen to you, if you haven't really too much to lose - actually, you have nothing to lose - ... ok judge me...
nonsense

That's the most logical answer IMHO:

Quote from: "SallyMutant"All the good work you do is the afterlife

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You ask yourself, you answer yourself.

Quote from: "wazzz"my question is simple do u believe there’s a judgment day and a life after death ?
for me i see there must be judgment day or i’ll be pissed of so much coz jerks can get away with their stupid Action
for the second thing after life issue  it freaks me out that i’ll live just few years and then i’ll become just like dust nothing more nothing else .where all the hard work i did in my entire life would go ?!!!!  :brick:

I believe exactly this viewpoint makes it easier for people to accept notions of a Judgement Day where some higher force will right all wrongs and suchlike. I know that Muhammad preached this as a part of Islâm, because most of the ‘Arabs around him didn’t really belief in an afterlife.

I think that such a notion can make people complacent and apathetic. Why fight against odds when god will make everything right in the afterlife? Even when I used to follow religion I had problems with this whole judgement day scenario. Now I dismiss it purely as wishful thinking. If you want to right wrongs done to you in your life then you need to do it right now in this life or your regrets will eat you alive.

In this sense I view atheism as a form of growing up and having to take responsibility for your own life.

I find the idea of a god being interested, and involved in petty human quibbles to be increasingly hard to believe, so I do not think that there is any kind of "judgment".

The afterlife, I don't know. I would like it to be true, and hope that it is, but I just don't know.

Quote from: "Hitsumei"The afterlife, I don't know. I would like it to be true, and hope that it is, but I just don't know.

How do you perceive this afterlife? Heaven and Hell? I would assume not since you don’t accept notions of judgement. In which case, what makes this afterlife worth pursuing more than an earthly life? If you could live forever at a young age on this earth would you do so, or would you prefer eternal life after death?

Quote from: "Kodanshi"How do you perceive this afterlife? Heaven and Hell?

I don't. Any specific conception I created would be pulled from my imagination. I don't consider that a valid epistemological method in this context.

QuoteI would assume not since you don’t accept notions of judgement. In which case, what makes this afterlife worth pursuing more than an earthly life?

I didn't say that it was.

QuoteIf you could live forever at a young age on this earth would you do so, or would you prefer eternal life after death?

I'd have to know what the afterlife was like to make an informed decision. I wouldn't want to make an uninformed decision about something that would dictate my existential circumstances for all of eternity. To quote Woody Allen: eternity is a long time, especially towards the end.

First off, apologies for the lack of romance in the following information :upset:
:lol:) you leave behind. Of course you have to decide whether to help make sure the knowledge passed on will be good enough to help keep both yours and their genetic code going on on and on and on and on and on and on :hide2: (hopefully we have found a new planet to inhabit before then)

Guys and Girls who are bad eventually cannot pass on their genetic information because they are generally segregated in prison :blush: ) depends on just how good you are (no pun intended again :lol:

As for judgment day: If the religuos zealots are right and only they will live in heaven because they have followed all of the bibles "so called" commandments, why would you want to be there? It sure wont be much fun will it :beer: with me when we get through stoking the fires.

There's no judgment day & therefore, no afterlife.  All we have is this life, this world, so don't screw it up people!  

Quote from: "G.ENIGMA"First off, apologies for the lack of [strike:wsw3f0gd]romance[/strike:wsw3f0gd] in the following information :D

Quote from: "wazzz"

Quote from: "G.ENIGMA"First off, apologies for the lack of [strike:3gesnxx5]romance[/strike:3gesnxx5] in the following information :D

   the romance that is "not" there of course