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General => Media => Topic started by: Whitney on December 30, 2008, 02:20:21 AM

Title: Frontline: A Class Divided
Post by: Whitney on December 30, 2008, 02:20:21 AM
This is not new, but it is new to me.

QuoteThis is one of the most requested programs in FRONTLINE's history. It is about an Iowa schoolteacher who, the day after Martin Luther King Jr. was murdered in 1968, gave her third-grade students a first-hand experience in the meaning of discrimination. This is the story of what she taught the children, and the impact that lesson had on their lives.

Click on the following link to access the video:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline ... /view.html (http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/divided/etc/view.html)

If more teachers could be allowed to run similar exercises in their own classrooms, maybe we could stamp out discrimination.
Title: Re: Frontline: A Class Divided
Post by: DennisK on December 30, 2008, 07:12:00 PM
I had watched the first part of this show, but not the last part with the adults.  Very revealing.  Thanks for posting.
Title: Re: Frontline: A Class Divided
Post by: curiosityandthecat on December 30, 2008, 07:16:44 PM
We've studies this over and over in the college of education. It's an amazingly powerful tool (though nigh impossible to replicate today).
Title: Re: Frontline: A Class Divided
Post by: LARA on December 31, 2008, 02:30:17 AM
I've seen that one quite awhile back, it's a really good piece but really unethical to test kids like that.  =sigh= Why are the best psychology experiments always so evil?

One of my favorite unethical psychology experiments you might or might not have read about is the Stanford Prison experiment.  Worth a read if you haven't done so yet.

www.prisonexp.org (http://www.prisonexp.org)  (this link isn't working for me but the cached version still works if you search with Google.)
Title: Re: Frontline: A Class Divided
Post by: Whitney on December 31, 2008, 02:55:34 AM
Quote from: "LARA"I've seen that one quite awhile back, it's a really good piece but really unethical to test kids like that.  =sigh= Why are the best psychology experiments always so evil?

Are you saying the method was unethical or just that the kids being sujected to testing was unethical?  I'm not sure if I would agree, it seemed pretty harmless to me.
Title: Re: Frontline: A Class Divided
Post by: DennisK on January 02, 2009, 04:24:24 PM
Quote from: "laetusatheos"
Quote from: "LARA"I've seen that one quite awhile back, it's a really good piece but really unethical to test kids like that.  =sigh= Why are the best psychology experiments always so evil?

Are you saying the method was unethical or just that the kids being sujected to testing was unethical?  I'm not sure if I would agree, it seemed pretty harmless to me.
At first, I thought it seemed to be harmful, but the effects were actually very beneficial it seems.  Kids were reportedly pushing themselves more in school having higher levels of success.  The reunion seemed to show very tight bonds and an overall cohesive group, albeit a very small community.
Title: Re: Frontline: A Class Divided
Post by: SSY on January 02, 2009, 08:33:11 PM
Quote from: "LARA"I've seen that one quite awhile back, it's a really good piece but really unethical to test kids like that.  =sigh= Why are the best psychology experiments always so evil?

One of my favorite unethical psychology experiments you might or might not have read about is the Stanford Prison experiment.  Worth a read if you haven't done so yet.

http://www.prisonexp.org (http://www.prisonexp.org)  (this link isn't working for me but the cached version still works if you search with Google.)

If you look at experiments like stanford prison or the milgram experiment, it is evident humans really aren't as nice as society would have you beleive.
Title: Re: Frontline: A Class Divided
Post by: curiosityandthecat on January 02, 2009, 08:59:30 PM
Quote from: "SSY"If you like at experiments like stanford prison or the milgram experiment, it is evident humans really aren't as nice as society would have you beleive.

This is why I think more people should read up on Xun Zi (荀子) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xun_Zi).