Happy Atheist Forum

I am planning to send Mr Bush a shoe, as a token of thanks for what he has done to my country. I thought others might like to, as well. If so, here is his address:

1600 Pennsylvania Ave NW
Washington, DC 20500

I will be embarrassed to tel my children I lived through President ManChild.
"You mean people voted for him? Twice?"
"He ran on a national security platform as a cowboy right after we were attacked. And a lot of people believed that Iraq had some connection to 9/11."
"Despite any evidence?"
"No, they fabricated evidence."
"But they didn't find out the evidence was fabricated until he was out of office?"
"No, most people knew as of 2005. Many of us knew even before the invasion."
"Why wasn't he impeached?"
"The Democrats in the House and Senate, save for Rep. Kucinich, were all scared of attacking a war-time president."
"I'm glad we moved to Peru."
"Me, too, Son."

BTW, the last person who delivered a shoe to Mr. Bush is being tortured. Kinda makes me sick.

I'd like to send him an octopus. Without the refrigerator, just to invoke some smell by the time it gets there.

You know, I feel kind of stupid for thinking Mr. Bush was an idiot. I should have known better.

I used to be a democrat, hardcore. But after my eyes were opened I realized that, shockingly, george bush, while not a great president, was much better that what obama will be.

I know what you're thinking. It's the consensus of america, europe, and the middle east to bash Mr. Bush, as well as the republican party. I did so too. But now I've changed my opinion, and I am ashamed for voting for obama. I feel like I've been duped, unwittingly participated in the destruction of my own little chunk of freedom.

Before you shout at me, you should know that I hated bush before everybody else did, at least in my high school. Now I realize some things that have made me much more aware.
Next time, I'm voting libertarian. :borg:

Wechlein, I had to spend my entire Christmas week at my mom's house listening to her say how SHE will respect the president when OTHERS didn't respect Bush.  I tried to tell her that I gave Bush a fair shot in 2000 and by early 2002, I gave up.  He got progressively worse and yes, it's embarassing.  I've kept news magazines with anything regarding Bush in a box for my son to read later in his life, so he can have an idea of exactly when this country ended.

For the record, though... I don't know WHAT Obama will do, but NOTHING... N-O-T-H-I-N-G... will EVER be as bad as Bush.  He lied to us and we let him.  He misled us and we let him.  I have no bigtime political knowledge, but I just FEEL that Obama will be okay for our country.  I've read your posts about why you don't think so and I respectfully disagree.

Even so, Obama was the better choice than McCain in the end, and I just have to be okay with that.

When there is so much spin created for any political party, you have to read between the lines and question almost everything. The fact that the Bush administration made it so glaringly obvious what their true motives were is a testament to their self congratulatory, egotistical and quite disturbing double standards and ethical hypocrisy. They simply didn't give a toss what anyone else thought because they knew they could march around intimidating everyone. Just like the school bully 'if you don't like what I am doing, just try to stop me...'  The thing is, if anyone did try to stop them, I think they would have been crazy enough to press all the launch buttons.

I stood and watched helplessly as my government (Tony Blair and his cronies) jumped on the 'world police' band wagon with their veiled lies and ulterior motives and systematically stripped away any good work previous governments had created and replaced it with something far too close to Orwell's 1984 for comfort. Never has UK public opinion been so total about anything other than the Iraq war.

I've always wondered how many of my needs my government has at the core of its agenda. Are the decisions they make based upon what mine and my fellow English folk need? Do they really make decisions based upon the betterment of my country or are they just using a position of power for personal gain? Unfortunately the latter is the most likely explanation for their horrendous decisions, mistakes and downright criminal negligence.

One of the main reasons I respected the Obama campaign so much was how he got his funds. He didn't have to take grants from huge multi-national corporations. He Just took small amounts from vast swathes of the population. 5 dollars here, 10 dollars there. He consequently got more cash than most other presidential runners before him. Because of this, he doesn't have to take the feelings of enormous corporations into account when making decisions. That, in itself, is a very very good thing.

A good parting gift for Bush would be Necrotizing Fasciitis on the face and genitals.

Quote from: "karadan"A good parting gift for Bush would be Necrotizing Fasciitis on the face and genitals.

Now that's a great idea!

Seriously, though, for those who are beginning to forget already how bad Bush has been, do you not care that his administration undermined our civil rights? His admin blew away the friggin' Writ of Habeas Corpus when it became inconvenient for them. If someone calls you a terrorist, or you unknowingly support a "terrorist" group, they can toss you in a cell and throw away the key, and snatch up every asset you ever earned, without bothering to try or even accuse you in a court of law. That's just one of the many ways in which that evil puppet undermined the very soul of my country. They probably wiretapped your house, you silly atheist! They waged an unnecessary war which has killed uncounted thousands of Iraqi's and destroyed their society absolutely. They changed the very mission of the EPA so that it now protects industry instead of the environment. I hope the bastard dies a painful death with the absolute certainty that his god has abandoned him.

I seriously doubt that history will be kind to Chimpy McFlightsuit:
HNN Poll: 61% of Historians Rate the Bush Presidency Worst (http://hnn.us/articles/48916.html)

Quote“As far as history goes and all of these quotes about people trying to guess what the history of the Bush administration is going to be, you know, I take great comfort in knowing that they don’t know what they are talking about, because history takes a long time for us to reach.”â€" George W. Bush, Fox News Sunday, Feb10, 2008

Bush's gift to us will keep on giving indefinitely.

I so enjoyed watching that footage of the shoes flying at our beloved president.  I originally thought the man was a US journalist and was disappointed to later hear he was Iraqi.  I immediately thought that it must have felt good to do that.  The torture afterward, not so much.

Oh, right, sure. Bush was horrible. Pfft.

Bush continued what was all ready in play, from way before he was elected president. Sure, he was inept. He took the most vacation time of any president in history.

But invading Iraq? If the american public had been more united for longer, I can bet you we'd have a real presence in the middle east today.

Quote from: "Wechtlein Uns"Oh, right, sure. Bush was horrible. Pfft.

Bush continued what was all ready in play, from way before he was elected president. Sure, he was inept. He took the most vacation time of any president in history.

But invading Iraq? If the american public had been more united for longer, I can bet you we'd have a real presence in the middle east today.

You shouldn't have a real presence in the middle east today!! That is entirely the wrong way to think. The middle east should be left to the people who've grown up there! I think that is the main issue. Many Americans seem to have got it into their head that they are some kind of justified world police - that they know what is best for everyone else. It is that kind of thinking which leads to huge amounts of animosity from the rest of the world.

Yes, bush was horrible and so was his father. When i use the term 'Bush' i also mean the cronies who work for him. The cabal of James Bond-esque super criminals who seem to think meddling with the affairs of the entire world, going against the Kyoto agreement and causing the collapse of the American economy is a good thing...

It is capitalism gone bat-shit crazy.

Bush's notion was to go into Iraq and quickly show those ignorant Muslims who's really running the world. Iran was supposed to be quaking in their boots. Palestine was supposed to say, " Oh, well if you put it that way, of course we'll leave Israel alone. It was supposed to tip the scales our way by making all the leaders of wayward nations, including North Korea, bow to our superior military power and give up their nuclear ambitions. Obviously the administration failed to understand the true balance of power in the world. I hate to say it, but I think we deserved this little comeuppance. I just hope it doesn't get too much more painful before it's over. I also hope that a more respectful, intelligent, cautious approach is more effective in bringing about some sort of peace. I hate seeing nothing but war and poverty and superbugs in the future!

Here's how I see it.
Bush is a scumbag. Clinton was a scumbag. Obama will be a scumbag.

They're all politicians. Unless we could get a non-politician into the presidency, it's always going to be that way. They don't care about you or me or the rest of the world. They care about them. End of subject.

And I'm not saying McCain would've been a good president, but Obama being elected has me worried. He was not elected on his merits, in my opinion, he was elected because of W. Bush put such a brown-stain on the whitey-tightees of the republican party that no one wanted a republican in the office. I guess I should just be grateful that Hillary didn't get elected. If I even had the slightest hope that there's a god, I'd be thanking him/her for that one right now.

It's too bad that we have such a pathetic 2 party system here. It's the reason we can get these scumbags into the most powerful office in the world in the first place, and unfortunately, it just may be the downfall of this nation.

Quote from: "Ihateyoumike"Here's how I see it.
Bush is a scumbag. Clinton was a scumbag. Obama will be a scumbag.

They're all politicians. Unless we could get a non-politician into the presidency, it's always going to be that way. They don't care about you or me or the rest of the world. They care about them. End of subject.

And I'm not saying McCain would've been a good president, but Obama being elected has me worried. He was not elected on his merits, in my opinion, he was elected because of W. Bush put such a brown-stain on the whitey-tightees of the republican party that no one wanted a republican in the office. I guess I should just be grateful that Hillary didn't get elected. If I even had the slightest hope that there's a god, I'd be thanking him/her for that one right now.

It's too bad that we have such a pathetic 2 party system here. It's the reason we can get these scumbags into the most powerful office in the world in the first place, and unfortunately, it just may be the downfall of this nation.

My, aren't we a happy citizen!  

Quote from: "curiosityandthecat"My, aren't we a happy citizen!  :)
Oh, and religion, for that matter.
I guess I've come to the right place.

Quote from: "Ihateyoumike"Here's how I see it.
Bush is a scumbag. Clinton was a scumbag. Obama will be a scumbag.

They're all politicians. Unless we could get a non-politician into the presidency, it's always going to be that way. They don't care about you or me or the rest of the world. They care about them. End of subject.

And I'm not saying McCain would've been a good president, but Obama being elected has me worried. He was not elected on his merits, in my opinion, he was elected because of W. Bush put such a brown-stain on the whitey-tightees of the republican party that no one wanted a republican in the office. I guess I should just be grateful that Hillary didn't get elected. If I even had the slightest hope that there's a god, I'd be thanking him/her for that one right now.

It's too bad that we have such a pathetic 2 party system here. It's the reason we can get these scumbags into the most powerful office in the world in the first place, and unfortunately, it just may be the downfall of this nation.

I agree with your views of politicians.  Those who get into politics to help others are quickly weeded out or converted to the dark side.  In order to advance in the political arena you have to sell at least part of your soul.  Once you do that, you can never gain back whatever integrity you might have possessed.

In my eyes, a positive for Obama is that he hasn't been in Washington long.  Although the same was said for "W", however, Obama's daddy didn't buy his grades in the Ivy League.

In regards to McCain, he lost me when he pandered to the Republican base and eating Jr's ass.  I realize it was his only choice for election, but it sickened me.  The best thing going for him prior to ass-lickin' was that he pissed off the right wingers so much.  He did seem to vote with his conscience more than most.