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Title: World Cup - 2026
Post by: zorkan on December 12, 2025, 10:43:28 AM
48 nations, 3 host countries, plenty of controversy already.

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/13482283/world-cup-2026-tickets-fifa-urged-to-halt-ticket-sales-over-betrayal-of-fans-pricing-plan

England fans shouldn't worry about reaching the final because they haven't got there since 1966, when they were the hosts and only 16 nations competed.
USA and Canada are not footballing nations because they don't understand the game.
It's purely business for them.

Going to the finals are Curacao and Cape Verde.
Among those not going are proper football playing nations like Nigeria, Chile, Cameroon, Costa Rica, Greece, Hungary  and Serbia.





Title: Re: World Cup - 2026
Post by: Icarus on December 13, 2025, 01:43:18 AM
Football fans must be completely out of their minds.  I am seeing news that says ticket prices for the finals will be in the eight thousand dollar range. Can that be true?
Title: Re: World Cup - 2026
Post by: Recusant on December 13, 2025, 05:04:10 AM
Given a zealous border control agent, visiting this site could be cited as a cause for hopeful futbol fans to be denied entry to the US. The Trumpist government has announced a plan: All visitors to the US must surrender their electronic devices for scrutiny and disclose their social media activity (https://www.commondreams.org/news/pam-bondi-doj-memo) over the past five years for vetting. Among the disqualifications are such un-American activities as criticizing Christianity or opposing religion in general. I think Happy Atheist could be considered as "social media."
Title: Re: World Cup - 2026
Post by: zorkan on December 13, 2025, 11:56:06 AM
My advice is do not enter the USA with any electronic device with social media and wear a crucifix.
Having paid for a ticket does not mean you have a visa.
Any banner will need John 3:16.

"Take Haiti, one of the poorest countries in the world. The average wage in the Caribbean nation is around $147 a month.
The cheapest tickets for Haiti's first game at the World Cup in 52 years, against Scotland, cost $180."

And no voodoo or Campbell kilts.
Any Macleod tartan should see you through immigration.
Trump's mother was one.
Title: Re: World Cup - 2026
Post by: zorkan on December 17, 2025, 01:01:29 PM
Latest news: Ticket prices slashed.
But not many will be able to buy one for $60.
A ploy by the organisers to deflect criticism.

Q: Who were the first World Cup winners?
A: It wasn't Uruguay. It was West Auckland from Durham in England.

https://www.westaucklandtownafc.co.uk/history/
So I suppose you could argue that England have won it 3 times.
Title: Re: World Cup - 2026
Post by: zorkan on January 07, 2026, 11:24:16 AM
If Trump invades Greenland then should all countries having qualified boycott the tournament?

There is a precedent here.
"After being hosts for the 2018 edition, Russia were banned from both the 2022 and 2026 World Cup tournaments because of the Ukraine invasion."
Title: Re: World Cup - 2026
Post by: billy rubin on January 07, 2026, 12:32:09 PM
everybody should boycott it now.
Title: Re: World Cup - 2026
Post by: zorkan on January 15, 2026, 02:07:47 PM
Not looking forward to VAR ruining the tournament, but then I read:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/articles/c1dk4gv7eeqo

In the 2022 World Cup in Qatar some games were extended to 100 minutes to enable the VAR officials to make up their minds.
One match was even extended to 117 minutes.

Just one Var decision 2 days ago took 6 minutes to resolve.
The crowd got restless.
Viewers switched off.
Let's hope there will not too many "subjective offsides".

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-15461179/Outrage-VAR-causes-SEVEN-MINUTE-delay-Man-Citys-Carabao-Cup-clash-Newcastle-Antoine-Semenyos-second-goal-finally-ruled-subjective-offside.html


Title: Re: World Cup - 2026
Post by: zorkan on February 25, 2026, 11:04:28 AM
Mexico will be safe for fans.
Hugs not bullets.
Let's hope so.

Title: Re: World Cup - 2026
Post by: zorkan on March 04, 2026, 10:30:32 AM
Iran's participation must now be in doubt.
Probably UAE as they finished 3rd in Iran's group.
Title: Re: World Cup - 2026
Post by: zorkan on April 02, 2026, 04:08:15 PM
Don't forget to buy your ticket for the final.

https://www.local10.com/sports/2026/04/01/fifa-appears-to-have-technical-difficulties-with-world-cup-ticket-sales/

About $120 per minute, unless there is extra time and penalties.

Should Haiti reach the final the average Haitian would have to have worked for 4 years.

Title: Re: World Cup - 2026
Post by: zorkan on April 18, 2026, 01:15:45 PM
Just when you thought getting to the ground would at least be cheap.

https://afroballers.com/article/fifa-slams-135-train-fares-as-world-cup-2026-attendance-threat
Title: Re: World Cup - 2026
Post by: zorkan on May 07, 2026, 12:09:04 PM
It's not too late to buy a ticket.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2026/apr/23/world-cup-final-tickets-resale-prices-fifa-two-million

No way I'd buy (if I had the money) for $2.3 million.
But $2,299,998.85 will interest some I feel sure.
Title: Re: World Cup - 2026
Post by: Recusant on May 09, 2026, 03:52:11 AM
According to the article, if somebody had jumped a couple of days ago when FIFA released new blocks of tickets for the final, they might have been able to get tickets to the final for a mere $10,990. Then they could go onto FIFA's official resale site and sell them for ten times what they paid. For this World Cup FIFA did away with any limits on gouging the punters on their site. Their rationale is that North American resale sites already allow ridiculous gouging by scalpers so why not compete? They get a cut of the hugely inflated ticket prices on their official resale site.
Title: Re: World Cup - 2026
Post by: zorkan on May 15, 2026, 11:51:50 AM
Qualified for the World Cup, "Cape Verde is a stable, lower-middle-income island nation with a 2025 GDP of approximately $2.8 billion."
So a solitary ticket for the final at a mere $2.3 million should be well within their reach!?

There is nothing like football fans' fury to get things done.
https://www.espn.co.uk/football/story/_/id/48757359/price-world-cup-bus-new-york-reduced-fan-outcry

Or failing to get it done.
https://www.espn.co.uk/football/story/_/id/48366258/italy-world-cup-woe-branded-third-apocalypse-national-papers


Title: Re: World Cup - 2026
Post by: zorkan on May 22, 2026, 12:52:11 PM
https://thesun.my/sports/football/new-world-cup-rules-hydration-breaks-and-var-changes/

VAR means you can be offside by a toenail or even a hair.
Now, every corner will have to be checked.
I can see games lasting for up to 2 hours when the VAR and water breaks are taken into account.
There will be a record number of yellow cards for time wasting.

Fans won't know whether to celebrate a goal or not.
Even if the referee is satisfied with a score, he can still get a message in the ear to consult the dreaded VAR screen.
Almost certainly then the goal will be disallowed.

So, plenty of opportunities now for commercial breaks will please American broadcasters but not Europeans.
I'm old enough to remember when football was an exciting free-flowing game for players and spectators alike.
We should adopt the example of the Swedish league and kick out the VAR.
Title: Re: World Cup - 2026
Post by: Recusant on June 04, 2026, 05:04:45 PM
This World Cup seems more surreal to me than previous ones because it's taking place mostly within the US, which is currently dysfunctional in a number of ways. This is thanks to the mad king Trump and his goons, but they're just part of it. Multiple organizations issuing a travel warning about going to the goddam USA for the Cup? Just astounding. If you do go though, watch out for the robot dogs. A practiced author of dystopian fiction would be hard put to top all this stuff.

"FIFA to Deploy Robot Dogs to Beef Up World Cup Security" | Daily Beast (https://www.thedailybeast.com/fifa-to-deploy-robot-dogs-to-beef-up-world-cup-security-in-dallas-and-new-jersey/)

QuoteFour robot dogs are about to start prowling FIFA World Cup sites in Dallas and New Jersey using cameras for eyes. Hyundai and the robotics firm Boston Dynamics built the four-legged machines to help secure security for the tournament, which kicks off across the U.S., Canada and Mexico on June 11. The manufacturers have named all the anamatronics "Spot," for reasons best known to them. Two will be stationed at the World Cup's International Broadcast Center in Dallas and two at MetLife Stadium in New Jersey. The bots use onboard cameras to see and will flag potential threats to the officers monitoring them, FIFA says. The rollout has already spooked some online. After a viral clip claimed the dogs scanned fans' faces, Boston Dynamics pushed back. "The robots do not have facial recognition capabilities," a spokesperson said. They are one piece of a vast operation. More than 30 agencies are coordinating on North Texas' security plan, with undercover and uniformed officers and tight FAA drone restrictions on match days.
Title: Re: World Cup - 2026
Post by: billy rubin on June 04, 2026, 08:50:19 PM
its very clear where this is all going.

Title: Re: World Cup - 2026
Post by: zorkan on June 06, 2026, 03:33:30 PM
Says video unavailable.

I'm also looking forward to seeing the robodogs.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/39327669/world-cup-robot-security-dog/

Let's hope they don't invade the pitch.
Give them a red card and send them to the naughty corner if they do.
Title: Re: World Cup - 2026
Post by: zorkan on June 10, 2026, 11:01:29 AM
Some fans and officials have been refused entry into the USA.
What's going to happen if USA have to play Iran?
Will Trump revoke their visas and USA win the game by default?
They could potentially meet in the Round of 32.

Just hours away now from the start of the biggest money grab in sporting history.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2026/jun/09/world-cup-2026-visa-restrictions-referee-omar-artan-iran-officials
Title: Re: World Cup - 2026
Post by: zorkan on June 15, 2026, 02:21:42 PM
Memo to football USA style.

Dating back to 1866, football has been a game of 90 minutes comprising 2 halves, each lasting 45 minutes.
An American commentator yesterday was heard to say "That's the end of the 3rd quarter."
A reference to the hydration breaks so that ads can be shown to break up the flow of the game.
If a player is injured then just how long does it take for players to be handed a drink from the side line?
A few seconds.

Football as a modern game was first played and codified on dark winter fields in the north of England.
Within 30 miles was formed the oldest club in the world Sheffield FC, the oldest surviving league club Notts County, and Mansfield Town who still play at the first ever professional football ground.

It is not a game of 4 quarters, each lasting 22.5 minutes, It's one of 2 halves of 45 minutes.
Title: Re: World Cup - 2026
Post by: Recusant on June 25, 2026, 04:11:49 AM
Quote from: zorkan on June 15, 2026, 02:21:42 PMMemo to football USA style.

Dating back to 1866, football has been a game of 90 minutes comprising 2 halves, each lasting 45 minutes.
An American commentator yesterday was heard to say "That's the end of the 3rd quarter."

That's inexcusable. That dolt was being paid (no doubt rather well) and you'd think he'd make an effort to have a grasp of the basics of the sport.




I honestly don't know whether previous World Cups have had the sort of problem described below. From what I gather, the ticket resale market is particularly powerful in North America as opposed to Europe or elsewhere.

QuoteThroughout this euphoric, dramatic World Cup series, which has brought domestic and international tourists to North American cities from Vancouver all the way down to Monterrey, there has been one unfortunate motif: fans unable to access the pricey tickets that they purchased in advance, whether through StubHub or SeatGeek or FIFA's official ticketing platform. Many of the aggrieved fans I spoke with had chosen StubHub in particular, as it commands a larger share of the customer-to-customer resale market and represents a chance, at least, to get something cheaper than what FIFA would allow. Or so it seemed, until they finally tried it for themselves and saw their purchases disappear altogether.

[source (https://archive.ph/KZIjB)]
Title: Re: World Cup - 2026
Post by: zorkan on June 25, 2026, 12:27:27 PM
Turns into a scammers' paradise.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/scotland-fans-left-devastated-cruel-37343815

I don't suppose greedy FIFA will refund any money to the devastated fans.

Title: Re: World Cup - 2026
Post by: zorkan on July 04, 2026, 01:05:25 PM
Next for England is Mexico, but probably only after scenes like this from a section of their fans from outside Ecuador's hotel.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/BnXrSSSKt7M

Well done to Cape Verde, nearly bringing off the biggest world cup shock ever against the holders.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNomjgxfrPU

Title: Re: World Cup - 2026
Post by: Recusant on July 05, 2026, 10:45:45 PM
It's reported that Trump called the FIFA president to get a red card issued to a US player (Balogun) overturned. Yeah that's a good look for all concerned.
Title: Re: World Cup - 2026
Post by: billy rubin on July 06, 2026, 01:38:35 PM
what it means is that no matter how well the us does, any football victory will be tainted as having been fixed.

there is a telling consistency with trump, though. trump is always focused on the prize, not on the process. possessing the title is all that matters-- deserving to possess thetitle is irrelevant. this is easily seen in his pride in possessing the latest nobel peace prize medal, even though the prize itself was awarded to someone else. to him, or look at how a fat 80 year old man keeps winning golf tournaments at his personal golf clubs. possessing the gilded cup is what matters, not having earned the achievement.

so keeping the american player in the compettion is what is important, not following the rules of the game. a legitimate victory is no different than an illegitimate one, in trumps eyes

its strange to an adult man so clueless about so many things, but at least we re only a blood clot away from being rid of him./
Title: Re: World Cup - 2026
Post by: zorkan on July 07, 2026, 11:35:54 AM
Precedent Trump's actions backfired as it spurred Belgium on to victory.
Give him the red card.

However, I now expect Starmer to get England's red card rescinded from the game against Mexico.
https://metro.co.uk/2026/07/06/keir-starmer-colleague-suggests-pm-may-intervene-england-stars-red-card-29061470/

Just a bit of background here.
The system of red cards started when certain players deliberately appeared to want to injure the opposition.
In England, among others we had 'Chopper' Harris (Chelsea) and Norman 'bites yer legs' Hunter (Leeds United).

While some might deem a challenge just to be mistimed, it helps to keep players safe from injury and potentially career ending.

I guess you will never keep football out of politics and even religion.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_football_and_politics

In Glasgow there is protestant Rangers and catholic Celtic.
Quite a rumpus once when Celtic signed a protestant player, even though their greatest manager (Jock Stein) was a protestant.




Title: Re: World Cup - 2026
Post by: Recusant on July 07, 2026, 04:42:52 PM
Trump has an affinity for dishonest people, demonstrated by going out of his way to issue presidential pardons to a wide array of swindlers and grifters. His impulse to cheat and game the system came to the fore in leaning on the infamously corrupt Infantino to meddle with the red card. It was good to see his flabby strongarm tactics fail to produce the result on the pitch that he was hoping for.
Title: Re: World Cup - 2026
Post by: zorkan on July 11, 2026, 01:19:47 PM
Trump and England striker Harry Kane appear to be a mutual admiration society.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c8e2z97rp4xo

England play today against Norway in the quarter finals.
Unlike previous tournaments I've seen little enthusiasm for England.
Used to see flags on buildings and cars, outdoor screens, people talking.
Now, nearly all gone.
Maybe folk have realised that supporting them is just a triumph of hope over experience.
Title: Re: World Cup - 2026
Post by: zorkan on July 17, 2026, 12:44:30 PM
What can I say about England.
Blame it on the manager.
If you are one goal up and then allow a side like Argentina the freedom to attack, what can you expect?
It's not rocket science.

I still have vivid memories of England winning the World Cup in 1966, but they will never win it again.
If it was played in Sunderland in February, they might stand a chance.
But It's played in the summer in a warming world.

 


Title: Re: World Cup - 2026
Post by: Recusant on July 17, 2026, 04:13:43 PM
Quote from: zorkan on July 17, 2026, 12:44:30 PMWhat can I say about England.
Blame it on the manager.
If you are one goal up and then allow a side like Argentina the freedom to attack, what can you expect?
It's not rocket science.

I still have vivid memories of England winning the World Cup in 1966, but they will never win it again.
If it was played in Sunderland in February, they might stand a chance.
But It's played in the summer in a warming world.

 

Heh, I was hoping for an England-France final.  :lol:
Title: Re: World Cup - 2026
Post by: zorkan on July 20, 2026, 11:54:29 AM
Glad it's all over.
Only bright spot was Cape Verde.
FIFA made a reported $13 billion.

The USA do not understand football, that's for sure.
Merely a way to make money.
I hope the tournament is never held there again.

The fans were fleeced.
Referees' decisions should not be overturned by madman politicians.
The World Cup Final is not the Superbowl.

https://fortune.com/2026/07/18/cheapest-resale-ticket-price-world-cup-final-argentina-spain-messi-yamal/

Title: Re: World Cup - 2026
Post by: billy rubin on July 20, 2026, 02:19:01 PM
this is the key, i think:

FIFA made a reported $13 billion.

what does FIFA normally make out of this event?

i suspect they will follow the money. certainly they dont seem to be following any ethics.
Title: Re: World Cup - 2026
Post by: zorkan on July 20, 2026, 03:44:20 PM
It's projected now to be $15 billion for greedy FIFA.
Thanks to a 48 team tournament and fans saying they will pay anything to watch football.
4 years ago in Qatar the revenue was £7 billion.

I don't see that the game of football needs to be grown all over the world any more.
In England the game is run by the Football Association (the FA), and 'greed is good' is also their mantra.
The reality is that actually fewer people now turn up to watch live than say 50 years ago.
It's virtually a subscription only game on TV at the highest level.

"After the 2026 edition saw the tournament expanded to 48 teams for the first time ever, there could be even more teams involved in four years' time.
FIFA president Gianni Infantino confirmed earlier this month that he would consider a 64-team expansion, a move proposed by South American football governing body CONMEBOL last year, to mark the tournament's centennial anniversary."

So, in 2030 it's to be held in Spain, Portugal and Morocco, but might kick off in South America.
In 2034, it's Saudi Arabia.