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General => Obituaries => Topic started by: Icarus on January 01, 2025, 02:41:27 AM

Title: Jimmy .
Post by: Icarus on January 01, 2025, 02:41:27 AM
I have seen no acknowledgement of the death of James Earl Carter, Former president of the United States. Jimmy, as he was known, was a much more influential president than is often claimed. He may not have been our best president in History but he was, by all means, the most honest and decent one.

Jimmy, sometimes irreverently called "peanuts", was a devout Baptist Christian. That does not disqualify him from my own list of truly admirable men.  He was 100 years old. RIP Jimmy.
Title: Re: Jimmy .
Post by: Dark Lightning on January 01, 2025, 03:46:57 AM
I've seen where people have been bringing shame, but I can't be bothered to look at what they're bringing, it's ancient history. Just look at what subsequent specimens have wrought.  :(
Title: Re: Jimmy .
Post by: Recusant on January 01, 2025, 05:53:28 AM
I remember when the American electorate chose Ronald fer-gawds-sakes Reagan over Carter. To me it was a firm indication that numbskulls outnumber thinking people.

In just about anything you care to think of Carter was the opposite of the current president-elect. The red hats despise Carter for that, which says a lot about what they value.
Title: Re: Jimmy .
Post by: Dark Lightning on January 01, 2025, 11:35:23 AM
And the chump's ghost writers wrote a nice letter of condolences. The MAGAts are in a frenzy over it, of course.  :)  Abbot, governor of Texas, sent a letter of condolences to Jimmy's deceased (died in 2023) wife.
Title: Re: Jimmy .
Post by: Asmodean on January 02, 2025, 07:40:46 AM
I saw it in the local papers.

I don't know much beyond the name and title, as he was president before my time, but I do know that tripple digits is a very good run for a human, and having been the president of the United States by itself gives a person claim to having lived a full life.

RIP.
Title: Re: Jimmy .
Post by: Tom62 on January 04, 2025, 05:23:29 AM
I think that he was the second worst American president. His legacy is one of economic misery at home and embarrassment on the world stage. With an unemployment rate of 7.5 percent and a staggering 13.5 percent inflation rate, it is no wonder that he was voted out of office.
Title: Re: Jimmy .
Post by: Icarus on January 19, 2025, 03:14:32 AM
On the worst president scale, Carter was a long way from the second worst.  He was well into the double digit category.

I am curious Tom. If carter was second worst, who was, or is, the first worst?  Calvin Coolidge maybe?
Title: Re: Jimmy .
Post by: Tom62 on January 19, 2025, 08:22:34 AM
Quote from: Icarus on January 19, 2025, 03:14:32 AMOn the worst president scale, Carter was a long way from the second worst.  He was well into the double digit category.

I am curious Tom. If carter was second worst, who was, or is, the first worst?  Calvin Coolidge maybe?

In my mind the worst was George W. Bush, the international war criminal. He was responsible for an estimated 300,000 to over a million deaths. U.S. forces committed many other war crimes in Iraq, including extrajudicial killings, torture and the targeting of civilians, which are prohibited by the Geneva Conventions; the Convention Against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment; and the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights.
Title: Re: Jimmy .
Post by: Asmodean on January 20, 2025, 08:28:23 AM
Iraq war was a disaster as such things go. I don't know how much of it is on GWB, but probably "enough."

That said, I can't fully blame the White House for taking a "bomb something flat" approach to the World trade Center attacks. Can, however, blame them for bombing the wrong thing for possibly the wrong reasons.

I remember thinking that Bush was a huge downgrade from Clinton... Hmm... I wonder how he'd measure against, say, Biden. (As in, if early-millennium Bush took office today)
Title: Re: Jimmy .
Post by: Firebird on January 21, 2025, 02:37:18 AM
That was absolutely on GWB. He was talking about Iraq even before 9/11 happened. Hell, on 9/11 they were wondering if they could bomb Iraq because it had "more interesting targets." Apparently he was still pissed that Saddam tried to murder his father, and a bunch of neo-cons were still salty that we didn't take Baghdad the first time around.
And let's be honest, a lot of the idiot Americans who voted for Bush after Iraq also voted for Trump now, partly due to the ripple effects of that war. And while they call Iraq a mistake now, they will be all rah rah for war if Cheese-Doodle Mussolini tried to invade Greenland or Panama.