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Religion => Religion => Topic started by: Tank on September 15, 2023, 09:26:51 AM

Title: Mahsa Amini
Post by: Tank on September 15, 2023, 09:26:51 AM
Tomorrow, 16th September 2023, is the first anniversary of the murder of Mahsa Amini. She was taken into custody in Iran for wearing the wrong clothes. She was beaten and died as a result of those beatings.

Who on Earth would arrest and beat a person for wearing the wrong clothes? Never doubt the evil of Islam nor the damage  it does to its followers.
 
Never forget Mahsa Amini.
Title: Re: Mahsa Amini
Post by: Asmodean on September 15, 2023, 10:31:53 AM
I've answered this very point in the obituary thread. Rhetorically, rather than directly, but yeah... Who, above the age of beating up the kid in class, who has them dental braces, does that?

Still, it seems to be the norm in certain societies rather than the exception. I wonder if "they" look at "us" and think "WTF?!" every time "we" stand by and do absolutely nothing when someone burns a Quran? It's a rhetorical question, of course. "They" very much do.

https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,17574.new.html#new
Title: Re: Mahsa Amini
Post by: The Magic Pudding.. on September 16, 2023, 12:53:06 AM
Quote from: Tank on September 15, 2023, 09:26:51 AMWho on Earth would arrest and beat a person for wearing the wrong clothes?

Morality Police.
Title: Re: Mahsa Amini
Post by: billy rubin on September 16, 2023, 02:12:34 AM
totalitarian systems will always be with us.

sadly, it is up to the iranian peope to depose their oppressors.
more abuses are certainly in store before that happens
Title: Re: Mahsa Amini
Post by: Tank on September 16, 2023, 10:06:40 AM
Quote from: The Magic Pudding.. on September 16, 2023, 12:53:06 AM
Quote from: Tank on September 15, 2023, 09:26:51 AMWho on Earth would arrest and beat a person for wearing the wrong clothes?

Morality Police.


:(
Title: Re: Mahsa Amini
Post by: Tank on September 16, 2023, 10:07:19 AM
Quote from: billy rubin on September 16, 2023, 02:12:34 AMtotalitarian systems will always be with us.

sadly, it is up to the iranian peope to depose their oppressors.
more abuses are certainly in store before that happens

The price of freedom is often blood.
Title: Re: Mahsa Amini
Post by: The Magic Pudding.. on September 16, 2023, 10:45:49 AM
Quote from: Tank on September 16, 2023, 10:06:40 AM
Quote from: The Magic Pudding.. on September 16, 2023, 12:53:06 AM
Quote from: Tank on September 15, 2023, 09:26:51 AMWho on Earth would arrest and beat a person for wearing the wrong clothes?

Morality Police.


:(

It is one for the almost a laugh but really a cry category, it's so absurd. 
The morality of the morality police is OK with killing young woman.
Title: Re: Mahsa Amini
Post by: Tank on September 16, 2023, 10:52:02 AM
Quote from: The Magic Pudding.. on September 16, 2023, 10:45:49 AM
Quote from: Tank on September 16, 2023, 10:06:40 AM
Quote from: The Magic Pudding.. on September 16, 2023, 12:53:06 AM
Quote from: Tank on September 15, 2023, 09:26:51 AMWho on Earth would arrest and beat a person for wearing the wrong clothes?

Morality Police.


:(

It is one for the almost a laugh but really a cry category, it's so absurd. 
The morality of the morality police is OK with killing young woman.

So utterly human though :(
Title: Re: Mahsa Amini
Post by: The Magic Pudding.. on September 16, 2023, 11:53:54 AM
Quote from: Tank on September 16, 2023, 10:52:02 AM
Quote from: The Magic Pudding.. on September 16, 2023, 10:45:49 AM
Quote from: Tank on September 16, 2023, 10:06:40 AM
Quote from: The Magic Pudding.. on September 16, 2023, 12:53:06 AM
Quote from: Tank on September 15, 2023, 09:26:51 AMWho on Earth would arrest and beat a person for wearing the wrong clothes?

Morality Police.


:(

It is one for the almost a laugh but really a cry category, it's so absurd. 
The morality of the morality police is OK with killing young woman.

So utterly human though :(

WTF? You've gone all NoOne and made me pause my movie and Angelina is in trouble.
It's utterly human for humans to cherish their children and to extend this at least somewhat to the children of others. 
Humans do keep letting the creeps get control though, in some places.
Title: Re: Mahsa Amini
Post by: Tank on September 16, 2023, 11:56:37 AM
Quote from: The Magic Pudding.. on September 16, 2023, 11:53:54 AM
Quote from: Tank on September 16, 2023, 10:52:02 AM
Quote from: The Magic Pudding.. on September 16, 2023, 10:45:49 AM
Quote from: Tank on September 16, 2023, 10:06:40 AM
Quote from: The Magic Pudding.. on September 16, 2023, 12:53:06 AM
Quote from: Tank on September 15, 2023, 09:26:51 AMWho on Earth would arrest and beat a person for wearing the wrong clothes?

Morality Police.


:(

It is one for the almost a laugh but really a cry category, it's so absurd. 
The morality of the morality police is OK with killing young woman.

So utterly human though :(

WTF? You've gone all NoOne and made me pause my movie and Angelina is in trouble.
It's utterly human for humans to cherish their children and to extend this at least somewhat to the children of others. 
Humans do keep letting the creeps get control though, in some places.

I agree. But what animals will do what some humans will do when it comes to considered violence to support an idea? That is a singularly human trait.
Title: Re: Mahsa Amini
Post by: The Magic Pudding.. on September 16, 2023, 12:10:32 PM
Quote from: Tank on September 16, 2023, 11:56:37 AM
Quote from: The Magic Pudding.. on September 16, 2023, 11:53:54 AM
Quote from: Tank on September 16, 2023, 10:52:02 AM
Quote from: The Magic Pudding.. on September 16, 2023, 10:45:49 AM
Quote from: Tank on September 16, 2023, 10:06:40 AM
Quote from: The Magic Pudding.. on September 16, 2023, 12:53:06 AM
Quote from: Tank on September 15, 2023, 09:26:51 AMWho on Earth would arrest and beat a person for wearing the wrong clothes?

Morality Police.


:(

It is one for the almost a laugh but really a cry category, it's so absurd. 
The morality of the morality police is OK with killing young woman.

So utterly human though :(

WTF? You've gone all NoOne and made me pause my movie and Angelina is in trouble.
It's utterly human for humans to cherish their children and to extend this at least somewhat to the children of others. 
Humans do keep letting the creeps get control though, in some places.

I agree. But what animals will do what some humans will do when it comes to considered violence to support an idea? That is a singularly human trait.

Or a certain level of intelligence tangled up with evolutionary stuff.
No animals come anywhere near to the complexity of our thought.
He says with characteristic human hubris
Title: Re: Mahsa Amini
Post by: Tank on September 16, 2023, 12:57:06 PM
Agreed.
Title: Re: Mahsa Amini
Post by: The Magic Pudding.. on September 16, 2023, 01:26:42 PM
If only I had the talent of MarcusA, I'd birth a poem
Oh  all encompassing faith
Like autoimmune disease
Title: Re: Mahsa Amini
Post by: billy rubin on September 16, 2023, 02:42:17 PM
Quote from: The Magic Pudding.. on September 16, 2023, 12:10:32 PMOr a certain level of intelligence tangled up with evolutionary stuff.
No animals come anywhere near to the complexity of our thought.
He says with characteristic human hubris

is that intelligence, though?

look at gibbons. they have lived in harmony with their surroundings for millenia. an island in a zoo with a family.of gibbons remains pristine-- undamaged foliage, no debris of destruction. . .  an adjacent island with more intelligent chimpanzees is a moonscape. no living plants remain, the trees and branches broken and discarded.

which is more intelligent? how is intelligence defined?

if intelligence results in humanity living stunted lives or destroying itself, are we actually intelligent at all?
Title: Re: Mahsa Amini
Post by: The Magic Pudding.. on September 16, 2023, 03:11:22 PM
Quote from: billy rubin on September 16, 2023, 02:42:17 PMif intelligence results in humanity living stunted lives or destroying itself, are we actually intelligent at all?

Ye of course, maybe not quite intelligent enough, or a bit too much.



Title: Re: Mahsa Amini
Post by: Recusant on September 17, 2023, 03:02:11 AM
Quote from: The Magic Pudding.. on September 16, 2023, 03:11:22 PM
Quote from: billy rubin on September 16, 2023, 02:42:17 PMif intelligence results in humanity living stunted lives or destroying itself, are we actually intelligent at all?

Ye of course, maybe not quite intelligent enough, or a bit too much.


intelligence  ≠  wisdom
Title: Re: Mahsa Amini
Post by: Asmodean on September 18, 2023, 08:04:17 AM
As a Dungeons and Dragons player, I can confirm.

Seriously though, one is often handicapped without the other. If intelligence is, simply put, the ability to identify and/or create solutions to problems efficiently, then wisdom is the ability to make the most of intelligence, for instance considering the possible outcomes if one's solutions were to be applied, looking at the situation "through the eyes of another..." Such like. If you can't solve a problem, that's bad. If your solution is "kill all humans," that's probably worse.