I think several of the questions in this test are very poorly written, and it fits right in amongst the general category "junk quiz." May be fun (or provocative) to discuss, though. According to the results, I'm most strongly a "Liberal Feminist," secondarily a "Marxist Feminist," while the other three categories ("Traditionalist," "Radical Feminist," and "Cultural Feminist") are about equal; markedly lower than first two mentioned. May post an image of my results later.
Feminism Test (5 Scale) (http://www.celebritytypes.com/feminism-5/test.php)
This is how I scored:
Traditionalist 17%
Liberal Feminist 80%
Radical Feminist 61%
Marxist Feminist 80%
Cultural Feminist 57%
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Huh.
I wouldn't think that about me.
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Anything with a negative association is next to the word "feminism" and then nestled snugly in it's happy place is "traditionalist". Very suspicious.
I don't see how "liberal"or "cultural" are negative terms. I can see how "Marxist" can be, and how "radical" is.
Quote from: Davin on July 07, 2017, 08:17:02 PM
I don't see how "liberal"or "cultural" are negative terms. I can see how "Marxist" can be, and how "radical" is.
If you're alt-right they are. I assume from Recusant's OP that the alt-right is the intended audience.
I don't have much interest in seeing things from their perspective when I don't have to.
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A Pat Robertson gem! :rofl:
I think the only thing that came true about that was become lesbians...
Quote from: Arturo on July 07, 2017, 08:18:30 PM
Quote from: Davin on July 07, 2017, 08:17:02 PM
I don't see how "liberal"or "cultural" are negative terms. I can see how "Marxist" can be, and how "radical" is.
If you're alt-right they are. I assume from Recusant's OP that the alt-right is the intended audience.
Hmm, I don't think that it is. The quiz's description of 'traditionalism' is not particularly sympathetic.
QuoteTraditionalism refers to illiberal strands of philosophy which seek to preserve what they see as the "natural" and "traditional" order of things. In the past, this standpoint was chiefly represented by early 20th century thinkers such as Julius Evola and Rene Guenon. After a hiatus following World War II, Traditionalism has resurfaced as a new type of "conservatism to the right of mainstream conservatism." It is chiefly popular among younger voters who are skeptical of the liberal enlightenment principles that mainstream conservatives accept, uniting instead behind national pride, a critical stance towards feminism and Islam, and resistance to globalism.
Evola was a fascist, and Guenon, while definitely not a fascist, was opposed to democracy and the Enlightenment.
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I got 72% "Liberal Feminist", which according to their definition I wouldn't call feminism. What they label as liberal feminism would be more aptly labeled "meritocratic liberalism", or something to that effect.
The radicals and marxist types have also given me a lot of negative assosiations to the term feminist, to the point that I refuse to be labeled as one.
Too long, got bored, didn't finish.
Not really sure how I got 29% Traditional.
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The question I found the most intriguing was about sexbots devaluing women's worth. I don't see how that's a given, but then I'm assuming there'd be sexbots for women too.
I think that if the answers to some of the questions do not conform with one of the named varieties of feminism (as determined by the person who wrote the quiz), they get lumped into a 'traditionalism' score.
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Ah, it's making my head hurt!
I didn't finish either. There is too much nuance for this to be worth anything. I find these quizzes don't take social variables in to account, and if you aren't deeply familiar with certain aspects of the subject many are misleading.
Sex robots, for instance, would not inherently devalue women if all things were equal EXCEPT we already live in a society in which a woman's value is based on her ability to provide sex. And, women are viewed as "frigid" by nature, not aroused by anything really, least of all visual stimuli. So if sex robots suddenly just appear on the market tomorrow, they are going to be marketed almost exclusively to men (citation: the entire porn industry). Ultimately, long term, I'm unsure if sex robots would help or hinder - If all the troglodytes on say, Reddit Incel (look it up if you want to literally vomit from rage) remove themselves from the gene pool via sex robot and allow the rest of us to get on with things, that might be progress. If the majority of men in society find their needs fulfilled by sex robots and become increasingly annoyed by the prospect of having to deal with women generally existing around them... Not so much.
Or question 9 - "White men peddle hatred against Muslims as a way to distract women from the fact that they are oppressed" really doesn't make any sense unless you are looking at the sort of blogs and postings that bring out literally thousands of men doing this on a routine basis. For every woman that posts something like "Some fucking dirtbag groped me on the bus today and called me a fat slut when I called him out" there will be hundreds of responses along the line of "Stop whining you lucky bitch, if you were in the Middle East you would have been stoned to death just for wearing what you were."