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Title: Donald Trump doesn't really matter to his supporters
Post by: Sandra Craft on September 09, 2016, 10:51:59 PM
Yes, I know I'm flogging Jon Pavlovitz a bit lately, but at least this one is political and not religious:  Donald Trump Doesn't Really Matter to Donald Trump Supporters (http://johnpavlovitz.com/2016/09/09/donald-trump-doesnt-really-matter-to-donald-trump-supporters/):

QuoteWhether Trump's supporters believe he represents a loud middle finger to the political establishment, or some renegade cowboy coming in to shoot up all the bad guys, or whether he simply makes them feel better about the stuff they're afraid of, they're going to vote for him regardless of how terribly he acts or what disgusting things he says. The content of his character, the nonexistence of a plan, and the lack of any relevant experience governing all seem unimportant. He talks like some 40's movie gangster while tossing around verbal molotov cocktails of nationalism and doom, with a splash of Jerry Springer and a twist of Old Testament Angry God: America as imagined by a comic book super villain—and this is all fine.

The really frustrating thing is that I agree arguing with Trump supporters is pointless but I still want to do it!
Title: Re: Donald Trump doesn't really matter to his supporters
Post by: Dave on September 10, 2016, 08:28:35 AM
Same as arguing with fundies, pointless but, somehow, dificult to give up.

Hmm, Trump supporters of a different "fundie" type in American society?

I am sure Adolf had similar fundies!
Title: Re: Donald Trump doesn't really matter to his supporters
Post by: Tank on September 10, 2016, 08:54:21 AM
Quote from: Gloucester on September 10, 2016, 08:28:35 AM
Same as arguing with fundies, pointless but, somehow, dificult to give up.

Hmm, Trump supporters of a different "fundie" type in American society?

I am sure Adolf had similar fundies!
Godwins law!!!
Title: Re: Donald Trump doesn't really matter to his supporters
Post by: Dave on September 10, 2016, 11:42:26 AM
Quote from: Tank on September 10, 2016, 08:54:21 AM
Quote from: Gloucester on September 10, 2016, 08:28:35 AM
Same as arguing with fundies, pointless but, somehow, dificult to give up.

Hmm, Trump supporters of a different "fundie" type in American society?

I am sure Adolf had similar fundies!
Godwins law!!!

So what!!!

:snooty:

Title: Re: Donald Trump doesn't really matter to his supporters
Post by: xSilverPhinx on September 10, 2016, 02:38:52 PM
I think that Pavlovitz nailed it when he says that fear is a prime motivator, but it seems to me that many people see Trump as being a saviour, in spite of his many inadequacies. To me he just seems, well...intellectually challenged and he oozes disgusting narcissism. 
Title: Re: Donald Trump doesn't really matter to his supporters
Post by: Sandra Craft on September 10, 2016, 08:22:45 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on September 10, 2016, 02:38:52 PM
I think that Pavlovitz nailed it when he says that fear is a prime motivator, but it seems to me that many people see Trump as being a saviour, in spite of his many inadequacies. To me he just seems, well...intellectually challenged and he oozes disgusting narcissism.

I'm thinking the intellectually challenged narcissist part may be very attractive to his followers -- like calling to like, you know?
Title: Re: Donald Trump doesn't really matter to his supporters
Post by: xSilverPhinx on September 11, 2016, 12:07:46 AM
Quote from: BooksCatsEtc on September 10, 2016, 08:22:45 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on September 10, 2016, 02:38:52 PM
I think that Pavlovitz nailed it when he says that fear is a prime motivator, but it seems to me that many people see Trump as being a saviour, in spite of his many inadequacies. To me he just seems, well...intellectually challenged and he oozes disgusting narcissism.

I'm thinking the intellectually challenged narcissist part may be very attractive to his followers -- like calling to like, you know?

Yeah, I can see that happening. :smilenod:
Title: Re: Donald Trump doesn't really matter to his supporters
Post by: Icarus on September 13, 2016, 12:01:06 AM
Trump followers and fundamental xtians are cut from the same cloth. Most of them are entirely capable of exercising the powers of reason but certain of their beliefs are not to be subjected to examination, reason be damned.