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Religion => Religion => Topic started by: Recusant on June 19, 2016, 12:45:54 AM

Title: Living in Sin!
Post by: Recusant on June 19, 2016, 12:45:54 AM
. . . Anyway that seems to be the only inference one could make.

"Updated: Most marriages today are invalid, Pope Francis suggests" | Catholic News Agency (http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/most-marriages-today-are-invalid-pope-francis-suggests-51752/)

QuotePope Francis said Thursday that many sacramental marriages today are not valid, because couples do not enter into them with a proper understanding of permanence and commitment.

While he initially said in unscripted comments that "the great majority of our sacramental marriages are null," he later approved a revision of these remarks.

When the Vatican released its official transcript of the encounter the following day, they had changed the comment to say that "a portion of our sacramental marriages are null."

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Title: Re: Living in Sin!
Post by: Essie Mae on June 19, 2016, 01:46:45 AM
I've been living in sin these 44 years because my marriage wasn't in the Catholic church anyway. Seems I got the permanence and commitment bit about right in spite of that though.
Title: Re: Living in Sin!
Post by: xSilverPhinx on June 19, 2016, 02:20:21 AM
:lol: So the creepy, opiniated pope is at it again. I think it's rather funny that his comment was revised. It's like he puked crap, gobbled it up again for further digestion and puked it back out.

Not a smart move, commenting on the marriages of catholics as he just alienated a great majority a portion of them.
Title: Re: Living in Sin!
Post by: No one on June 19, 2016, 02:27:44 AM
Should I be honored, or concerned that whatever it is that created all of time and everything contained within it,  has such regard for my affairs?
Title: Re: Living in Sin!
Post by: Recusant on June 19, 2016, 05:55:03 AM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on June 19, 2016, 02:20:21 AMI think it's rather funny that his comment was revised. It's like he puked crap, gobbled it up again for further digestion and puked it back out.

Not a smart move, commenting on the marriages of catholics as he just alienated a great majority a portion of them.

:cheers: I agree; it's some fine comedy. I can't say I have any fondness for Pope Francis but plenty of conservative Catholics hate him, so he has that going for him. The Fox News shitbird who called him "the Catholic Church's Obama" a few years ago has now called for him to resign (http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2016/06/17/enough-is-enough-pope-francis-should-resign.html).
Title: Re: Living in Sin!
Post by: Tank on June 19, 2016, 08:10:09 AM
Well 36 years and still going  ;D
Title: Re: Living in Sin!
Post by: Asmodean on June 19, 2016, 04:14:31 PM
Well... Whoever says that their marriage to me is valid is totally full of shit, so... Yay, pope, I guess..?
Title: Re: Living in Sin!
Post by: OldGit on June 19, 2016, 05:34:57 PM
I've also been happily married for 44 years.  What the hell does the bloody pope know about marriage, anyway?
Title: Re: Living in Sin!
Post by: Ali on June 19, 2016, 08:28:20 PM
Quote from: OldGit on June 19, 2016, 05:34:57 PM
I've also been happily married for 44 years.  What the hell does the bloody pope know about marriage, anyway?
Haha, this is a great point. Want to know how to do marriage right? Ask a dude who chose supposed live long celibacy...
Title: Re: Living in Sin!
Post by: Recusant on June 19, 2016, 09:48:54 PM
It's possible that the pope has made it a bit easier for couples to get an annulment from the church, by saying that many/some Catholic marriages are null already.  :chin:
Title: Re: Living in Sin!
Post by: No one on June 19, 2016, 09:52:36 PM
How to do marriage right?
As long as the parties involved,  honor and respect each other through the thick and the thin,  the highs and lows, the twists and turns it is done right.

Secondly anyone else's opinion of your union is complete and total poppycock! Whether it is one's parental units, their siblings or some religious "enthusiast",   it still remains irrelevant gobbledygook!
Title: Re: Living in Sin!
Post by: Ali on June 19, 2016, 11:22:42 PM
Quote from: No one on June 19, 2016, 09:52:36 PM
How to do marriage right?
As long as the parties involved,  honor and respect each other through the thick and the thin,  the highs and lows, the twists and turns it is done right.

Secondly anyone else's opinion of your union is complete and total poppycock! Whether it is one's parental units, their siblings or some religious "enthusiast",   it still remains irrelevant gobbledygook!

Yes, I agree. I was being a little tongue in cheek. There are many ways to "do marriage right" as long as the partners treat each other with respect and kindness.
Title: Re: Living in Sin!
Post by: Siz on June 20, 2016, 12:48:53 AM
Quote from: Ali on June 19, 2016, 11:22:42 PM
Quote from: No one on June 19, 2016, 09:52:36 PM
How to do marriage right?
As long as the parties involved,  honor and respect each other through the thick and the thin,  the highs and lows, the twists and turns it is done right.

Secondly anyone else's opinion of your union is complete and total poppycock! Whether it is one's parental units, their siblings or some religious "enthusiast",   it still remains irrelevant gobbledygook!

Yes, I agree. I was being a little tongue in cheek. There are many ways to "do marriage right" as long as the partners treat each other with respect and kindness.
Many marriages work very well on two very different factors - fear and obligation.  That said, my wife is still working on earning respect and kindness - they're aspirational rather than prerequisite.
Title: Re: Living in Sin!
Post by: Firebird on June 20, 2016, 02:47:37 AM
Quote from: Ali on June 19, 2016, 08:28:20 PM
Quote from: OldGit on June 19, 2016, 05:34:57 PM
I've also been happily married for 44 years.  What the hell does the bloody pope know about marriage, anyway?
Haha, this is a great point. Want to know how to do marriage right? Ask a dude who chose supposed live long celibacy...

Seriously. It's also a terrible idea to marry someone before you've slept with them. Just imagine discovering that they're terrible in bed. Or that the sexual chemistry is so lacking that you're unable to do it. I know more than one couple who discovered this after they were married.