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General => Current Events => Topic started by: Asmodean on January 22, 2016, 12:29:47 PM

Title: Japan to remove swastikas from maps
Post by: Asmodean on January 22, 2016, 12:29:47 PM
Personally, I think the Japanese were there long before the nazis, and they shouldn't feel pressed to change their symbols based on someone else's usage of them.

In any case, I suppose this is a case of some begrieved minority screaming until they get what they want, something that happens far too often in this doomed world of ours, at least too often for MY liking.

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QuoteA Japanese proposal to stop using swastikas to identify temples on tourist maps has sparked a backlash.
Japan's official map-making body said foreigners might mistake it for a Nazi symbol, and that temples should be represented by a three-storey pagoda instead.
It is one of six map symbols the Geospatial Information Authority of Japan (GSI) has proposed dropping, as Japan prepares for the 2020 Tokyo Olympics.

More at BBC News (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-35349619).
Title: Re: Japan to remove swastikas from maps
Post by: Tank on January 22, 2016, 12:36:41 PM
Symbol evolution. The swastika is heading for extinction due to natural selection. You can't stop natural selection.
Title: Re: Japan to remove swastikas from maps
Post by: Asmodean on January 22, 2016, 01:26:32 PM
If it is indeed a case of natural selection, then well and good in my book. If, on the other hand, there are some screaming minorities behind this, then fuck them sideways, is what I say.
Title: Re: Japan to remove swastikas from maps
Post by: Crow on January 22, 2016, 01:56:12 PM
Quote from: Asmodean on January 22, 2016, 01:26:32 PM
If it is indeed a case of natural selection, then well and good in my book. If, on the other hand, there are some screaming minorities behind this, then fuck them sideways, is what I say.

Sounds more like a Japanese idea than a touchy minority as they regularly change things up. If it was old school Japan they would have made it more complicated just like they did with kanji to make it harder for those with "lesser breeding" to become educated.
Title: Re: Japan to remove swastikas from maps
Post by: Asmodean on January 22, 2016, 02:08:10 PM
Ha! Doin' it right.  >:(
Title: Re: Japan to remove swastikas from maps
Post by: OldGit on January 22, 2016, 02:36:44 PM
The Japanese swastika is anticlockwise; the Nazi symbol was always clockwise and almost always rotated 45° from the vertical.

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Title: Re: Japan to remove swastikas from maps
Post by: Asmodean on January 22, 2016, 02:39:41 PM
Besides, it's a relatively simple geometric shape. Me, I want to stop people from using scissors, because their phallic nature is offensive. Where do I sign the petition?  >:(
Title: Re: Japan to remove swastikas from maps
Post by: No one on January 22, 2016, 02:47:23 PM
Hey Asmo,  cut it out! That is not an idea I think you should run with.
Title: Re: Japan to remove swastikas from maps
Post by: Asmodean on January 22, 2016, 02:53:55 PM
Why..? Because someone might actually bite and make it a thing?

...Actually, good point. Nevermind.
Title: Re: Japan to remove swastikas from maps
Post by: Crow on January 22, 2016, 03:35:32 PM
Quote from: Asmodean on January 22, 2016, 02:53:55 PM
Why..? Because someone might actually bite and make it a thing?

...Actually, good point. Nevermind.

Scissors

"cut it out"
"not an idea I think you should run with".

Not see it?
Title: Re: Japan to remove swastikas from maps
Post by: Tank on January 22, 2016, 05:17:08 PM
Quote from: Asmodean on January 22, 2016, 01:26:32 PM
If it is indeed a case of natural selection, then well and good in my book. If, on the other hand, there are some screaming minorities behind this, then fuck them sideways, is what I say.
The 'screaming minority' are simply a selection pressure.
Title: Re: Japan to remove swastikas from maps
Post by: Firebird on January 22, 2016, 08:36:54 PM
The Japanese are hardly the only people outside of Nazi Germany to use the swastika. I started writing a list and realized it was way too long so here's Wikipedia instead (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika#Worldwide_use). But for example, I saw it all over India because of its use in Hinduism. No way they'll ever take it off all of their ancient buildings, nor should they.
Title: Re: Japan to remove swastikas from maps
Post by: Asmodean Prime on January 22, 2016, 08:49:33 PM
Quote from: Crow on January 22, 2016, 03:35:32 PM
Quote from: Asmodean on January 22, 2016, 02:53:55 PM
Why..? Because someone might actually bite and make it a thing?

...Actually, good point. Nevermind.

Scissors

"cut it out"
"not an idea I think you should run with".

Not see it?
Not at all.
Title: Re: Japan to remove swastikas from maps
Post by: Crow on January 22, 2016, 09:08:35 PM
Quote from: Firebird on January 22, 2016, 08:36:54 PM
The Japanese are hardly the only people outside of Nazi Germany to use the swastika. I started writing a list and realized it was way too long so here's Wikipedia instead (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika#Worldwide_use). But for example, I saw it all over India because of its use in Hinduism. No way they'll ever take it off all of their ancient buildings, nor should they.

If you are ever in England just look at Victorian architecture the swastika is used all over them.
Title: Re: Japan to remove swastikas from maps
Post by: Siz on January 23, 2016, 12:29:45 AM
Quote from: Asmodean on January 22, 2016, 02:39:41 PM
Besides, it's a relatively simple geometric shape. Me, I want to stop people from using scissors, because their phallic nature is offensive. ...
Not an accusation I've heard often...!

Quote from: No one on January 22, 2016, 02:47:23 PM
Hey Asmo,  cut it out! That is not an idea I think you should run with.
Oh, Bravo, No-one!
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Title: Re: Japan to remove swastikas from maps
Post by: Siz on January 23, 2016, 12:37:54 AM
Quote from: Crow on January 22, 2016, 03:35:32 PM
Quote from: Asmodean on January 22, 2016, 02:53:55 PM
Why..? Because someone might actually bite and make it a thing?

...Actually, good point. Nevermind.

Scissors

"cut it out"
"not an idea I think you should run with".

Not see it?

Scissors.

"Good point"

Not see it?

( ;D)
Title: Re: Japan to remove swastikas from maps
Post by: jumbojak on January 23, 2016, 12:48:42 AM
If I had to take a guess as to why they're doing this I'd say that it has something to do with money. Tourists associating Japan with the Nazis and not wanting to come, or come back once they see the maps. Just a guess...
Title: Re: Japan to remove swastikas from maps
Post by: Tank on January 23, 2016, 06:25:46 AM
Quote from: jumbojak on January 23, 2016, 12:48:42 AM
If I had to take a guess as to why they're doing this I'd say that it has something to do with money. Tourists associating Japan with the Nazis and not wanting to come, or come back once they see the maps. Just a guess...
Naaa. It's probably not in the font they are going to use on the next reprint and they can't be bothered to find it. Never underestimate the ability of some humans to not give a fuck and other humans to read intent into their lack of intent.
Title: Re: Japan to remove swastikas from maps
Post by: Asmodean Prime on January 23, 2016, 03:23:44 PM
Quote from: Tank on January 23, 2016, 06:25:46 AM
...and other humans to read intent into their lack of intent.

Sadly, that right there.