I've been riding horses for ten+ years, and since they are such a big part of my life, I'm a member of many horse-related forums on the internet.
In most of my signatures I have something related to my beliefs of atheism, and now I've got some little god warrior monkeying my back and trying to condemn me for my sins. She initially messaged me, and I've been responding.
Is it bad that I'm enjoying messing with this kid? I'm just being my normal rude, cynical, sarcastic, and hopeless self. This is the convo so far:
Her: You need to get a ******* life. When you're in hell you'll see
Me: Do you have a point to make? Or are you just trying to convince me that you're a fucking nutty holy roller and a bible humper?
If you have something meaningful to say to me, say it. Otherwise, take your self-righteous bull bullshit and bugger off.
Kiss kiss
Her: You'll regrett every word you say one day. Maybe a friend like me would do you good. If it weren't for God you wouldn't be here today. Do you celebrate Christmas? Where do you think that came from?
Me: Well, my mommy and daddy were very young, and one day decided to do the Horizontal Twist 'N' Glide (also know as SEX!!!!!) without using a condom.
The sperm and the egg united, and presto - out I popped nine months later from my mommy's vagina.
Talk about harsh, as well. Do you give this ultimatum to all people you meet? Have you seen a therapist? Psychotherapist? Freudian believer?
If I took you seriously, I might be offended. Then again, probably not.
and now, so far:
Her: Your mommy and daddy wouldn't be here either. So, do you celebrate Christmas?
Me: God, that sex thing just won't go away, then. As far as I know, that's how a baby forms in the uterus.
I celebrate christmas by giving gifts to my family and friends, eating the delicious cookies made by my momma, and drinking lots of white wine.
And it doesn't look like she's slowing down anytime soon. I think I have some sort of perverse magnetic pull that attracts the holy rollers. First my psycho room mate, and now this.
Errr....you are obviously dealing with someone who is locked in on a specific path to lead you to whatever god she serves. I have never heard the approach from a Xmas point of view, but it is probably something she got at an evangelical seminar. You would be a trophy catch.....you know, something like a 20lb bass if you suddenly got religion. :hail:
Dont you see? Your already in hell.
Suck dont it? I'd go make a Orange Julius. They are goooood....
I'm checking my message center for that BB and...
Okay, she's still messaging me.
Me: I know why it's symbolically called it christmas. However, despite what your warped mind tells you, today's societal version of christmas is about 1/100 of what it originally was.
Hell, the symbolic christmas tree was taken from the pagans - not as pure as your obvious delusions think it is.
Done harassing me yet? It's got to be past your bedtime.
Her: No. Its not. I got to bed when I want to. Just like your average 27 year old person.
Me: If you're 27, then I have just one question (and this will be my last for the night, as I need to go out clubbing and basically floor* a guy like the immoral person that I am):
Who the hell passed you in English? Elementary, junior, high school, and college included?
Her: Didn't graduate. I've always sucked at english
Why, oh why, oh why? She needs to leave me alone. I don't have the strength to deal with a dumb 27yo drop out.
What a creepy little mentally unstable person. Have you blocked her and complained to a mod?
Oh, and can I be petty for a bit? Um... she couldn't finish school because of an ENGLISH CLASS?! Really, English? Not Math? English? The language that she was tauhgt (hopefully) from birth? That she uses every day? Hahahaha! I wonder if she's even been able to read the Bible herself.
You should tell this person that you don’t need to believe the story of Paul Bunyan to appreciate the Grand Canyon. For me Christmas has evolved into a celebration of love for family and friends. I enjoy Christmas a lot and don’t really care about the history of it. I put up a Christmas tree, give presents, and don’t give a thought to the story of jesus or santa claus. I also say bless you, when someone sneezes. “Bless you†has also evolved from the idea that your spirit is escaping from your body. Wow, humans beings are creative, and dumb sometimes. Like Christmas, saying bless you is just something nice to do.
LSchune, your example illustrates perfectly why I don't engage believers in debate. You can't win! They are so locked into their delusion that no matter what logical statements you make, they keep spewing the same old material. Cut her loose!
I agree with Kyle...go have a yummy Orange Julius. You'll feel much better. :o
Quote from: "Kona"Errr....you are obviously dealing with someone who is locked in on a specific path to lead you to whatever god she serves. I have never heard the approach from a Xmas point of view, but it is probably something she got at an evangelical seminar. You would be a trophy catch.....you know, something like a 20lb bass if you suddenly got religion. :hail:
The rational is this......A lot of people celebrate Christmas and Christmas is Jesus's birthday, therefore Jesus is real. :roll:
Quote from: "MommaSquid"LSchune, They are so locked into their delusion that no matter what logical statements you make, they keep spewing the same old material. Cut her loose!
What is it with these people.. your are completely right. They seem to lack the ability to accept your beliefs and insist of shoving theirs down your thought..
If I wanted to vomit bible versus I would swallow the damn bible whole.. but first give me the proof that load of crap is truth and I will listen..
They cant prove it but they will talk there way around it until they are blue in the freaking face.
Ignore the stupid woman.. Block her if you can.
Just forweard her some pretty gnarly porn. She'll glance at it long enought to have to confess lol Reccomended....highly!
So how did the porn go... Piss her off enough to leave you the hell alone??
Speaking of porn...slide some under you former room mates door.
She's left me alone now.
I get that stuff pretty regularly on that board. The religious hoity toities see what's in my signature and feel compelled to save me. So while the have the "Proud Member of the "I Ride For Jesus" Club!", I have my bolded and englarged:
Proud Member of the "I DON'T Ride for Jesus" Club.
QuoteSpeaking of porn...slide some under you former room mates door. 
Haha, she attempts to speak to me every now and then when our paths cross in the bathroom. I just ho-hum and go about my way.
I'm having fun debating with believers on YouTube. I'm getting punched at from all sides, with most arguments ending in "I'll pray for you". Luckily, two other non-believers have been assisting me, so I'm not receiving ALL the flak. Its fun because its like I'm debating with myself of a few years ago.
I recently posted that the devil had taken over my mind and that I was very sorry because I was tired of getting emails from youtube telling me I had been replied to. They took me serious, one even said "Don't say sorry to us, say sorry to God!"
Priceless.
Quote from: "Edizzle"...with most arguments ending in "I'll pray for you"
Perhaps "I'll pray for you" is a nice way of saying "this conversation is over". Or maybe they just can't think of anything else smart to say.
I read a quote the other day and since I can't retain quotes very well forgive me if it's not word for word, but it went like this, "Jesus rode an ass and now the asses ride Jesus". Why don't you ask this woman why she is so concerned about your soul? If she believes that you will be duly punished in hell then shouldn't that be enough to satisfy her? Also, I think that Christmas centers around the winter solstice and the celebration of the days getting longer. Nobody knows when Jesus was supposedly born, so it began with a pagan ritual that the christians stole. Why would any atheist say "bless you" when someone sneezes? That's just plain silly. Why allow this woman the satisfaction of replying to her? Isn't there enough crap out there that we have to be exposed to?
I also say "bless you" when someone sneezes...years of habit. It's a silly superstition, that I don't believe in but, I wouldn't consider it religious.
I dont say it. Strangely my parents never raised us to say that. Even though everyone else always had. They still claim to believe in god, havent been to a church (other than marriage or a funeral) in probably 6 years.
Anyhow I have no reason to. It is just a custom thing.
My strategy is a bit different when it comes to the evangelists: I like to convert them to Islam.
It's not that I believe in Islam, or even that I favor it over any of the other religious institutions, but it's out of favor in Western society. I'm fortunate to have a few friends who are Muslim that tried to convert me, so I'm familiar with the concepts.
I actually managed to convert a Jehovah's Witness right on my doorstep in about 3 hours.
It's funny that I'm not comfortable converting people to atheism via trickery and mind games, but I really enjoy converting them to Islam.
Salam aleikum, bitches!
wow, impressive you were able to convert them, usually they have their belief structure set up so they dont have to change it even when confronted with infallible logic.
I recall reading somewhere that Jesus was supposedly born in the spring. It would make sense though-that they would change the celebration of his birthday to winter since the creation of Chritianity was to be an all inclusive religion. Didn't really work that way though! Witch burnings certainly didn't help matters any!
ShimSham, the trick is adapting it to their belief system, not restructuring it. Convince them that is what they're expected to believe and combine that with interpretations of scripture they're familiar with. Combine that with salesmanship and you've got a shot.
Logic need not apply.
but Willravel, if we don't conduct ourselves with reason and logic, then what do we stand for. If we have to beat them by used twisted reasoning that doesn't make any sense, even if to debate them with, than we're no better than them for having their own contradicting scriptures. But anyway, I try to maintain my integrity, i wouldn't sink to filling the air with bullshit
I do it purely out of my perverse pleasure of turning the imposition back on them. It's punishment for interrupting my day because you assume you know more about the universe than I do.
I wouldn't do it for any other reason.
Quote from: "Willravel"ShimSham, the trick is adapting it to their belief system, not restructuring it. Convince them that is what they're expected to believe and combine that with interpretations of scripture they're familiar with. Combine that with salesmanship and you've got a shot.
Logic need not apply.
ROFL.
Logic need not even scan the want ads.
Logic-what logic?