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General => Current Events => Topic started by: Buddy on August 05, 2012, 07:33:55 PM

Title: Oak Creek Wisconson Shooting
Post by: Buddy on August 05, 2012, 07:33:55 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19138754

QuoteA police spokesman said an officer had been shot multiple times but was expected to survive. There are reports of other casualties but no confirmed numbers.

The spokesman said one suspect had been shot, but another gunman might still be on the loose inside the temple.

"This is an ongoing and very fluid situation," he said.

Unknown number of shooters open fired in a Sikh temple in Wisconson. Reporters saying that the members have been experiencing a lot of racial prejudice since 9/11.
Title: Re: Oak Creek Wisconson Shooting
Post by: Tank on August 05, 2012, 07:36:52 PM
OMFG! Sikhs had nothing to do with 911. That being said racists are not general know for the strong intellectual powers.
Title: Re: Oak Creek Wisconson Shooting
Post by: Buddy on August 05, 2012, 07:39:58 PM
One gunman has been "put down." No word on that means he was killed or put in custody. SWAT team is currently combing the building. Women and children still inside.
Title: Re: Oak Creek Wisconson Shooting
Post by: Tank on August 05, 2012, 07:40:38 PM
Quote from: Budhorse4 on August 05, 2012, 07:39:58 PM
One gunman has been "put down." No word on that means he was killed or put in custody. SWAT team is currently combing the building. Women and children still inside.
It's just been reported on the BBC news.
Title: Re: Oak Creek Wisconson Shooting
Post by: xSilverPhinx on August 05, 2012, 07:51:06 PM
Sikhs? 9/11? WTF? ???

Title: Re: Oak Creek Wisconson Shooting
Post by: DeterminedJuliet on August 05, 2012, 07:52:30 PM
Wow  :(
Title: Re: Oak Creek Wisconson Shooting
Post by: Tank on August 05, 2012, 07:53:45 PM
1 gunman dead and 6 others.
Title: Re: Oak Creek Wisconson Shooting
Post by: Ali on August 05, 2012, 08:03:01 PM
So sad.   :'(
Title: Re: Oak Creek Wisconson Shooting
Post by: Sandra Craft on August 05, 2012, 08:22:05 PM
Really makes Dorothy Parker's "what fresh hell is this?" spring to mind. 
Title: Re: Oak Creek Wisconson Shooting
Post by: OldGit on August 05, 2012, 08:26:17 PM
Oh, wonderful.  :'(
Title: Re: Oak Creek Wisconson Shooting
Post by: McQ on August 05, 2012, 10:00:09 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on August 05, 2012, 07:51:06 PM
Sikhs? 9/11? WTF? ???


Yeah, seriously. How stupid can people be?
Title: Re: Oak Creek Wisconson Shooting
Post by: xSilverPhinx on August 05, 2012, 10:29:11 PM
Quote from: McQ on August 05, 2012, 10:00:09 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on August 05, 2012, 07:51:06 PM
Sikhs? 9/11? WTF? ???


Yeah, seriously. How stupid can people be?

Sikhs are also more or less persecuted by Hindus in India, most that I've known really just keep to themselves. Has it been confirmed that the reason is hate due to 9/11? It's just too inane to me.
Title: Re: Oak Creek Wisconson Shooting
Post by: Buddy on August 05, 2012, 11:18:43 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on August 05, 2012, 10:29:11 PM
Quote from: McQ on August 05, 2012, 10:00:09 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on August 05, 2012, 07:51:06 PM
Sikhs? 9/11? WTF? ???


Yeah, seriously. How stupid can people be?

Sikhs are also more or less persecuted by Hindus in India, most that I've known really just keep to themselves. Has it been confirmed that the reason is hate due to 9/11? It's just too inane to me.

It hasn't yet been confirmed the reason for the shooting. The news broadcast had stated that the temple had been experiencing protests and vandalism due to people mistaking them for Muslims.
Title: Re: Oak Creek Wisconson Shooting
Post by: Firebird on August 05, 2012, 11:25:14 PM
Quote from: Budhorse4 on August 05, 2012, 11:18:43 PM
It hasn't yet been confirmed the reason for the shooting. The news broadcast had stated that the temple had been experiencing protests and vandalism due to people mistaking them for Muslims.

Yeah, let's not jump to conclusions just yet. Everyone's trying to write the story before they know what's going on and who did it and why. Until then, it's dangerous to assume anything.
Last I heard, the cop who put down the gunman is expected to survive. I hope that's true.
Title: Re: Oak Creek Wisconson Shooting
Post by: markmcdaniel on August 06, 2012, 10:32:18 AM
Quote from: Tank on August 05, 2012, 07:36:52 PM
OMFG! Sikhs had nothing to do with 911. That being said racists are not general know for the strong intellectual powers.
All to true. If its true that anti-muslim bigotry it will not be the first time that a Hindu or a Sikh has been attacked or killed by "mistake". Apparently anyone who wears a turban must be a Muslim. 
Title: Re: Oak Creek Wisconson Shooting
Post by: hismikeness on August 06, 2012, 05:36:06 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on August 05, 2012, 10:29:11 PM
Quote from: McQ on August 05, 2012, 10:00:09 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on August 05, 2012, 07:51:06 PM
Sikhs? 9/11? WTF? ???


Yeah, seriously. How stupid can people be?

Sikhs are also more or less persecuted by Hindus in India, most that I've known really just keep to themselves. Has it been confirmed that the reason is hate due to 9/11? It's just too inane to me.

The alleged shooter, who was shot and killed by police, is being reported to have military background and suspected ties to white supremacy groups, so it seems likely. When you're that engrained in the redneckery, I guess you just have to shoot anyone in a turban??
Title: Re: Oak Creek Wisconson Shooting
Post by: Ali on August 06, 2012, 05:38:29 PM
I wonder how many of these tragedies we need to have before (pro-gun) people start rethinking their stance on gun control....
Title: Re: Oak Creek Wisconson Shooting
Post by: Firebird on August 06, 2012, 05:51:37 PM
Quote from: Ali on August 06, 2012, 05:38:29 PM
I wonder how many of these tragedies we need to have before (pro-gun) people start rethinking their stance on gun control....


Just thinking the same thing. Now can we talk about it???

Sadly, this isn't the first time Sikhs were targeted like this. A Sikh gas station owner was gunned down right after 9/11 because some idiot thought it was their fault.
Title: Re: Oak Creek Wisconson Shooting
Post by: Sweetdeath on August 07, 2012, 09:23:46 PM
Quote from: Tank on August 05, 2012, 07:36:52 PM
OMFG! Sikhs had nothing to do with 911. That being said racists are not general know for the strong intellectual powers.

Yeah, well, racists are not known for being the brightest crayon in the box >__<;;;;

This is really terrible none the less...
Title: Re: Oak Creek Wisconson Shooting
Post by: Sweetdeath on August 07, 2012, 09:28:08 PM
Quote from: Firebird on August 06, 2012, 05:51:37 PM
Quote from: Ali on August 06, 2012, 05:38:29 PM
I wonder how many of these tragedies we need to have before (pro-gun) people start rethinking their stance on gun control....


Just thinking the same thing. Now can we talk about it???

Sadly, this isn't the first time Sikhs were targeted like this. A Sikh gas station owner was gunned down right after 9/11 because some idiot thought it was their fault.

Whatever the case may be for 9-11; to say ALL MUSLIMS are terrorists is so close minded, i can't even comprehend. I really am so sick of people being scape-goated for their race, or how they look. IT IS DISGUSTING.

Title: Re: Oak Creek Wisconson Shooting
Post by: xSilverPhinx on August 07, 2012, 09:50:06 PM
Apparently the dead shooter was a neonazi and did mistake them for Muslims. ::)
Title: Re: Oak Creek Wisconson Shooting
Post by: Siz on August 07, 2012, 10:57:23 PM
Quote from: Ali on August 06, 2012, 05:38:29 PM
I wonder how many of these tragedies we need to have before (pro-gun) people start rethinking their stance on gun control....


Why would they want to rethink something that's written into their constitution? Gun ownership is a right - the founding fathers gave them that right and no Democrat upstarts are qualified to take it away...[/poe]

Title: Re: Oak Creek Wisconson Shooting
Post by: markmcdaniel on August 07, 2012, 10:59:42 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on August 07, 2012, 09:50:06 PM
Apparently the dead shooter was a neonazi and did mistake them for Muslims. ::)
This point is not yet proven. As a white supremacist he might not have cared. It may be that any none Caucasian group would have served  his purposes just as well. While I suspect that your analysis is correct. In the past he is known to have talked about a race war happening. It may be that he got tired of waiting for it to start and decided to help it along. In this case he might have thought that any large non white group may have served his purposes equally well.
Title: Re: Oak Creek Wisconson Shooting
Post by: En_Route on August 07, 2012, 11:01:38 PM
Quote from: Scissorlegs on August 07, 2012, 10:57:23 PM
Quote from: Ali on August 06, 2012, 05:38:29 PM
I wonder how many of these tragedies we need to have before (pro-gun) people start rethinking their stance on gun control....


Why would they want to rethink something that's written into their constitution? Gun ownership is a right - the founding fathers gave them that right and no Democrat upstarts are qualified to take it away...[/poe]




It occurs to me that the problem with a ban or imposition of tight controls is that only the law- abiding will  hand back their weapons. Is this a  form of prisoners dilemma?