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Title: Because using a cattle brand implies a lack of trust.
Post by: Ali on June 28, 2012, 04:40:59 PM
http://www.newser.com/story/149034/anti-adultery-ring-it-imprints-im-married.html?utm_source=part&utm_medium=slate&utm_campaign=greatfinds_rss

QuoteWorried about your spouse slipping off the wedding ring and cheating on you? Put this in the last-resort category: a ring that leaves the words 'I'M MARRIED' on the flesh. The band is engraved on the inside, so an imprint on the skin is made after it's worn for a while. Offbeat gift maker TheCheeky is selling the titanium ring for $550, notes BoingBoing.

"With Arnold (and) Tiger in mind, we have created this wedding ring for people intent on cheating," explains the product description. "The negative engraving on the inside means that when you are in the 'Club' and an attractive woman...or man comes along to chat, slipping your wedding ring off is not an option..."

What do you think?  Funny and tongue in cheek?  Gross?  Useful?
Title: Re: Because using a cattle brand implies a lack of trust.
Post by: AnimatedDirt on June 28, 2012, 04:49:15 PM
Quote from: Ali on June 28, 2012, 04:40:59 PM
What do you think?  Funny and tongue in cheek?  Gross?  Useful?

From what I hear, it's more of a turn-on/"go for him first" type thing for women when they see a wedding ring on a man...
Title: Re: Because using a cattle brand implies a lack of trust.
Post by: OldGit on June 28, 2012, 04:53:39 PM
The sneaky type of bridegroom could have the best man keep the ring red-hot in an insulated box.  Slip it on her finger and psstt!  She's branded for life.

I wonder if the bride might begin to suspect when she saw her beloved slipping on an asbestos glove at the altar...
Title: Re: Because using a cattle brand implies a lack of trust.
Post by: DeterminedJuliet on June 28, 2012, 04:56:53 PM
I don't need one because my husband already has my name tattoo'd on his personage.  ;D
(Don't look at me, he wanted to!)
Title: Re: Because using a cattle brand implies a lack of trust.
Post by: Ali on June 28, 2012, 04:57:00 PM
Quote from: AnimatedDirt on June 28, 2012, 04:49:15 PM
Quote from: Ali on June 28, 2012, 04:40:59 PM
What do you think?  Funny and tongue in cheek?  Gross?  Useful?

From what I hear, it's more of a turn-on/"go for him first" type thing for women when they see a wedding ring on a man...


I don't know about that; I was never really the "steal someone else's man just to prove you can" type.  But I will say, if I were "shopping around" an "I'm Married" imprint on the ring finger would make me run away quick.  Not so much because he's married, but because he's married to a psycho and you just know she'd break into your house and boil your dog or something.  Thanks but no thanks.  So I guess it would be effective.  But still weird and gross.

I'm pro-wedding ring.  I like the idea of a physical symbol or talisman.  But the whole point behind a marriage (and it's corresponding symbol) is that it has to be a commitment that people enter into freely, or else it doesn't really count.  So, if my Husband wants to slip off his wedding ring (if he even wore one, which he doesn't because he hates all kinds of jewelry and I'm not going to make him wear something that he hates just to prove something to me that I should already know) and pretend to be single, having "I'm married" branded on his finger won't solve that problem.  The problem is between he and I, not him and the ring.
Title: Re: Because using a cattle brand implies a lack of trust.
Post by: Velma on June 28, 2012, 05:41:57 PM
Quote from: Ali on June 28, 2012, 04:57:00 PM
Quote from: AnimatedDirt on June 28, 2012, 04:49:15 PM
Quote from: Ali on June 28, 2012, 04:40:59 PM
What do you think?  Funny and tongue in cheek?  Gross?  Useful?

From what I hear, it's more of a turn-on/"go for him first" type thing for women when they see a wedding ring on a man...


I don't know about that; I was never really the "steal someone else's man just to prove you can" type.  But I will say, if I were "shopping around" an "I'm Married" imprint on the ring finger would make me run away quick.  Not so much because he's married, but because he's married to a psycho and you just know she'd break into your house and boil your dog or something.  Thanks but no thanks.  So I guess it would be effective.  But still weird and gross.

I'm pro-wedding ring.  I like the idea of a physical symbol or talisman.  But the whole point behind a marriage (and it's corresponding symbol) is that it has to be a commitment that people enter into freely, or else it doesn't really count.  So, if my Husband wants to slip off his wedding ring (if he even wore one, which he doesn't because he hates all kinds of jewelry and I'm not going to make him wear something that he hates just to prove something to me that I should already know) and pretend to be single, having "I'm married" branded on his finger won't solve that problem.  The problem is between he and I, not him and the ring.
Exactly.  My husband doesn't wear a wedding ring for the same reason yours doesn't, Ali.  I don't wear mine at work for fear of getting it caught - lots of moving parts where I work. 

A ring is a outer token of a promise you've made, not the promise itself.  Commitment is something you live, it is not a piece of jewelry you switch out depending on your mood.
Title: Re: Because using a cattle brand implies a lack of trust.
Post by: Tank on June 28, 2012, 05:52:40 PM
Quote from: Ali on June 28, 2012, 04:40:59 PM
http://www.newser.com/story/149034/anti-adultery-ring-it-imprints-im-married.html?utm_source=part&utm_medium=slate&utm_campaign=greatfinds_rss

QuoteWorried about your spouse slipping off the wedding ring and cheating on you? Put this in the last-resort category: a ring that leaves the words 'I'M MARRIED' on the flesh. The band is engraved on the inside, so an imprint on the skin is made after it's worn for a while. Offbeat gift maker TheCheeky is selling the titanium ring for $550, notes BoingBoing.

"With Arnold (and) Tiger in mind, we have created this wedding ring for people intent on cheating," explains the product description. "The negative engraving on the inside means that when you are in the 'Club' and an attractive woman...or man comes along to chat, slipping your wedding ring off is not an option..."

What do you think?  Funny and tongue in cheek?  Gross?  Useful?
You'd take it off when you left home. Waste of time. If you have to spend $550 because you don't trust your spouse your marriage is dead in the water. Spend the money on a divorce.
Title: Re: Because using a cattle brand implies a lack of trust.
Post by: En_Route on June 28, 2012, 07:46:38 PM
Quote from: AnimatedDirt on June 28, 2012, 04:49:15 PM
Quote from: Ali on June 28, 2012, 04:40:59 PM
What do you think?  Funny and tongue in cheek?  Gross?  Useful?

From what I hear, it's more of a turn-on/"go for him first" type thing for women when they see a wedding ring on a man...


That's evolution for you. The ladies,the heterosexual ones anyway,  are programmed to favour a chap who has proven his ability to land (and presumably provide for) a female.Thus, the astute man-about-town remains resolutely single, but wears a conspicuous wedding ring.  
Title: Re: Because using a cattle brand implies a lack of trust.
Post by: Asmodean on June 28, 2012, 07:50:57 PM
Quote from: Tank on June 28, 2012, 05:52:40 PM
Spend the money on a divorce.
So sayeth The Gray Tome. (https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffc01.deviantart.net%2Ffs41%2Ff%2F2009%2F033%2F6%2F0%2FEmoticon___animated_Nod_by_shaeffer007.gif&hash=e20acddef6e59e0808da43abcd2d7e10b375fc07)
Title: Re: Because using a cattle brand implies a lack of trust.
Post by: Ali on June 28, 2012, 07:57:33 PM
Quote from: En_Route on June 28, 2012, 07:46:38 PM
Quote from: AnimatedDirt on June 28, 2012, 04:49:15 PM
Quote from: Ali on June 28, 2012, 04:40:59 PM
What do you think?  Funny and tongue in cheek?  Gross?  Useful?

From what I hear, it's more of a turn-on/"go for him first" type thing for women when they see a wedding ring on a man...


That's evolution for you. The ladies,the heterosexual ones anyway,  are programmed to favour a chap who has proven his ability to land (and presumably provide for) a female.Thus, the astute man-about-town remains resolutely single, but wears a conspicuous wedding ring.  

*Shakes head*  There are so many things wrong with that.   ;D  A) Stupid women thinking that a man who is apt to cheat or leave his current wife for them is some sort of a "better bet." B) Stupid men deceiving stupid women in order to...what?...not provide for them, I'm guessing.  *Shakes head*
Title: Re: Because using a cattle brand implies a lack of trust.
Post by: En_Route on June 28, 2012, 08:05:41 PM
Quote from: Ali on June 28, 2012, 07:57:33 PM
Quote from: En_Route on June 28, 2012, 07:46:38 PM
Quote from: AnimatedDirt on June 28, 2012, 04:49:15 PM
Quote from: Ali on June 28, 2012, 04:40:59 PM
What do you think?  Funny and tongue in cheek?  Gross?  Useful?

From what I hear, it's more of a turn-on/"go for him first" type thing for women when they see a wedding ring on a man...


That's evolution for you. The ladies,the heterosexual ones anyway,  are programmed to favour a chap who has proven his ability to land (and presumably provide for) a female.Thus, the astute man-about-town remains resolutely single, but wears a conspicuous wedding ring.  

*Shakes head*  There are so many things wrong with that.   ;D  A) Stupid women thinking that a man who is apt to cheat or leave his current wife for them is some sort of a "better bet." B) Stupid men deceiving stupid women in order to...what?...not provide for them, I'm guessing.  *Shakes head*

I blame that Darwin myself.
Title: Re: Because using a cattle brand implies a lack of trust.
Post by: Stevil on June 28, 2012, 08:09:24 PM
Neither me nor the wife wear our rings, we umed and ared so much before the wedding on whether to even buy rings, unfortunately we did buy some, but we don't wear them, just not into jewelry.
Title: Re: Because using a cattle brand implies a lack of trust.
Post by: Ali on June 28, 2012, 08:21:14 PM
Quote from: Stevil on June 28, 2012, 08:09:24 PM
Neither me nor the wife wear our rings, we umed and ared so much before the wedding on whether to even buy rings, unfortunately we did buy some, but we don't wear them, just not into jewelry.

I think that's totally fine.  You guys know what's up with your relationship; you don't need a ring to remind you if you're not ring people.  Personally I love my wedding ring, but I suspect that has a lot to do with my crow-like affinity for all things shiny and sparkly.  It's funny because a lot of people (mostly whom I happened to be related to) seem to think it's weird that I don't "make" my husband wear a wedding ring.  I just hate that implication, like I should be in the sort of relationship where I force a grown man to wear he's something he doesn't like and doesn't want to wear.  He's not my property, I don't need to "put a ring around it" to mark my claim.  Either he's with me, or he's not.  Getting into a power struggle over freaking jewelry is just....bleh.  No thanks.
Title: Re: Because using a cattle brand implies a lack of trust.
Post by: DeterminedJuliet on June 28, 2012, 08:27:08 PM
Quote from: Ali on June 28, 2012, 08:21:14 PM
Quote from: Stevil on June 28, 2012, 08:09:24 PM
Neither me nor the wife wear our rings, we umed and ared so much before the wedding on whether to even buy rings, unfortunately we did buy some, but we don't wear them, just not into jewelry.

I think that's totally fine.  You guys know what's up with your relationship; you don't need a ring to remind you if you're not ring people.  Personally I love my wedding ring, but I suspect that has a lot to do with my crow-like affinity for all things shiny and sparkly.  It's funny because a lot of people (mostly whom I happened to be related to) seem to think it's weird that I don't "make" my husband wear a wedding ring.  I just hate that implication, like I should be in the sort of relationship where I force a grown man to wear he's something he doesn't like and doesn't want to wear.  He's not my property, I don't need to "put a ring around it" to mark my claim.  Either he's with me, or he's not.  Getting into a power struggle over freaking jewelry is just....bleh.  No thanks.

Yeah, I totally agree. I never wear my engagement ring because I'm always afraid that it's going to catch on something and get broken (I know someone who lost the diamond in her ring in a store). Sometimes I get weird comments because people think it's strange that I don't wear it. I do wear my wedding band, though, because it's far more practical and I don't even notice it's there. If I had an elaborate and catchy one, I probably wouldn't wear it on a day-to-day basis, either.
Title: Re: Because using a cattle brand implies a lack of trust.
Post by: Crow on July 04, 2012, 02:30:17 PM
The whole Roman history of the wedding ring implying male ownership of the female puts me off them full stop.
Title: Re: Because using a cattle brand implies a lack of trust.
Post by: OldGit on July 04, 2012, 02:37:08 PM
Mrs Git loves to wear her ring, whereas I never had one.  We're both happy and there was never any argument.  It was never a question of trust or dominance or any such stuff. 
Title: Re: Because using a cattle brand implies a lack of trust.
Post by: xSilverPhinx on July 04, 2012, 02:45:25 PM
Personally I feel that possessiveness on that level is really creepy, if the person is unbalanced in some way could lead to something disastrous, I don't know. It is a factor in criminal profiling or so I'm told.


Quote from: En_Route on June 28, 2012, 07:46:38 PM
Quote from: AnimatedDirt on June 28, 2012, 04:49:15 PM
Quote from: Ali on June 28, 2012, 04:40:59 PM
What do you think?  Funny and tongue in cheek?  Gross?  Useful?

From what I hear, it's more of a turn-on/"go for him first" type thing for women when they see a wedding ring on a man...


That's evolution for you. The ladies,the heterosexual ones anyway,  are programmed to favour a chap who has proven his ability to land (and presumably provide for) a female.Thus, the astute man-about-town remains resolutely single, but wears a conspicuous wedding ring.  

Or carry a baby around and act as if you were its excellent father. That's the evolutionary cherry on top.
Title: Re: Because using a cattle brand implies a lack of trust.
Post by: En_Route on July 04, 2012, 03:05:26 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on July 04, 2012, 02:45:25 PM
Personally I feel that possessiveness on that level is really creepy, if the person is unbalanced in some way could lead to something disastrous, I don't know. It is a factor in criminal profiling or so I'm told.


Quote from: En_Route on June 28, 2012, 07:46:38 PM
Quote from: AnimatedDirt on June 28, 2012, 04:49:15 PM
Quote from: Ali on June 28, 2012, 04:40:59 PM
What do you think?  Funny and tongue in cheek?  Gross?  Useful?

From what I hear, it's more of a turn-on/"go for him first" type thing for women when they see a wedding ring on a man...


That's evolution for you. The ladies,the heterosexual ones anyway,  are programmed to favour a chap who has proven his ability to land (and presumably provide for) a female.Thus, the astute man-about-town remains resolutely single, but wears a conspicuous wedding ring.  

Or carry a baby around and act as if you were its excellent father. That's the evolutionary cherry on top.

Excellent idea. Borrow one from a relative and dose it with Calpol or some other patent medication that will keep it docile.
Title: Re: Because using a cattle brand implies a lack of trust.
Post by: Ali on July 04, 2012, 04:10:44 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on July 04, 2012, 02:45:25 PM
Personally I feel that possessiveness on that level is really creepy, if the person is unbalanced in some way could lead to something disastrous, I don't know. It is a factor in criminal profiling or so I'm told.


Quote from: En_Route on June 28, 2012, 07:46:38 PM
Quote from: AnimatedDirt on June 28, 2012, 04:49:15 PM
Quote from: Ali on June 28, 2012, 04:40:59 PM
What do you think?  Funny and tongue in cheek?  Gross?  Useful?

From what I hear, it's more of a turn-on/"go for him first" type thing for women when they see a wedding ring on a man...


That's evolution for you. The ladies,the heterosexual ones anyway,  are programmed to favour a chap who has proven his ability to land (and presumably provide for) a female.Thus, the astute man-about-town remains resolutely single, but wears a conspicuous wedding ring.  

Or carry a baby around and act as if you were its excellent father. That's the evolutionary cherry on top.

Haha, true.  It's almost impossible not to smile warmly at a man tending to small children in a public place.
Title: Re: Because using a cattle brand implies a lack of trust.
Post by: DeterminedJuliet on July 04, 2012, 04:17:19 PM
Quote from: Ali on July 04, 2012, 04:10:44 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on July 04, 2012, 02:45:25 PM
Personally I feel that possessiveness on that level is really creepy, if the person is unbalanced in some way could lead to something disastrous, I don't know. It is a factor in criminal profiling or so I'm told.


Quote from: En_Route on June 28, 2012, 07:46:38 PM
Quote from: AnimatedDirt on June 28, 2012, 04:49:15 PM
Quote from: Ali on June 28, 2012, 04:40:59 PM
What do you think?  Funny and tongue in cheek?  Gross?  Useful?

From what I hear, it's more of a turn-on/"go for him first" type thing for women when they see a wedding ring on a man...


That's evolution for you. The ladies,the heterosexual ones anyway,  are programmed to favour a chap who has proven his ability to land (and presumably provide for) a female.Thus, the astute man-about-town remains resolutely single, but wears a conspicuous wedding ring.  

Or carry a baby around and act as if you were its excellent father. That's the evolutionary cherry on top.

Haha, true.  It's almost impossible not to smile warmly at a man tending to small children in a public place.

Seconded. Though, if the child is obviously drugged, it does taint the charm a little.
Title: Re: Because using a cattle brand implies a lack of trust.
Post by: Buddy on July 04, 2012, 04:21:14 PM
Quote from: Ali on July 04, 2012, 04:10:44 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on July 04, 2012, 02:45:25 PM
Personally I feel that possessiveness on that level is really creepy, if the person is unbalanced in some way could lead to something disastrous, I don't know. It is a factor in criminal profiling or so I'm told.


Quote from: En_Route on June 28, 2012, 07:46:38 PM
Quote from: AnimatedDirt on June 28, 2012, 04:49:15 PM
Quote from: Ali on June 28, 2012, 04:40:59 PM
What do you think?  Funny and tongue in cheek?  Gross?  Useful?

From what I hear, it's more of a turn-on/"go for him first" type thing for women when they see a wedding ring on a man...


That's evolution for you. The ladies,the heterosexual ones anyway,  are programmed to favour a chap who has proven his ability to land (and presumably provide for) a female.Thus, the astute man-about-town remains resolutely single, but wears a conspicuous wedding ring.  

Or carry a baby around and act as if you were its excellent father. That's the evolutionary cherry on top.

Haha, true.  It's almost impossible not to smile warmly at a man tending to small children in a public place.

That or a puppy. My brother gets hit on all the time when he takes his dog for a walk.  :D
Title: Re: Because using a cattle brand implies a lack of trust.
Post by: En_Route on July 04, 2012, 04:37:00 PM
Quote from: DeterminedJuliet on July 04, 2012, 04:17:19 PM
Quote from: Ali on July 04, 2012, 04:10:44 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on July 04, 2012, 02:45:25 PM
Personally I feel that possessiveness on that level is really creepy, if the person is unbalanced in some way could lead to something disastrous, I don't know. It is a factor in criminal profiling or so I'm told.


Quote from: En_Route on June 28, 2012, 07:46:38 PM
Quote from: AnimatedDirt on June 28, 2012, 04:49:15 PM
Quote from: Ali on June 28, 2012, 04:40:59 PM
What do you think?  Funny and tongue in cheek?  Gross?  Useful?

From what I hear, it's more of a turn-on/"go for him first" type thing for women when they see a wedding ring on a man...


That's evolution for you. The ladies,the heterosexual ones anyway,  are programmed to favour a chap who has proven his ability to land (and presumably provide for) a female.Thus, the astute man-about-town remains resolutely single, but wears a conspicuous wedding ring.  

Or carry a baby around and act as if you were its excellent father. That's the evolutionary cherry on top.

Haha, true.  It's almost impossible not to smile warmly at a man tending to small children in a public place.

Seconded. Though, if the child is obviously drugged, it does taint the charm a little.

Croon  the odd lullaby and people will think its asleep. Plus that you are in touch with your feminine side.
Title: Re: Because using a cattle brand implies a lack of trust.
Post by: xSilverPhinx on July 04, 2012, 05:32:56 PM
Quote from: Budhorse4 on July 04, 2012, 04:21:14 PM
Quote from: Ali on July 04, 2012, 04:10:44 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on July 04, 2012, 02:45:25 PM
Personally I feel that possessiveness on that level is really creepy, if the person is unbalanced in some way could lead to something disastrous, I don't know. It is a factor in criminal profiling or so I'm told.


Quote from: En_Route on June 28, 2012, 07:46:38 PM
Quote from: AnimatedDirt on June 28, 2012, 04:49:15 PM
Quote from: Ali on June 28, 2012, 04:40:59 PM
What do you think?  Funny and tongue in cheek?  Gross?  Useful?

From what I hear, it's more of a turn-on/"go for him first" type thing for women when they see a wedding ring on a man...


That's evolution for you. The ladies,the heterosexual ones anyway,  are programmed to favour a chap who has proven his ability to land (and presumably provide for) a female.Thus, the astute man-about-town remains resolutely single, but wears a conspicuous wedding ring. 

Or carry a baby around and act as if you were its excellent father. That's the evolutionary cherry on top.

Haha, true.  It's almost impossible not to smile warmly at a man tending to small children in a public place.

That or a puppy. My brother gets hit on all the time when he takes his dog for a walk.  :D

It's all the same, puppies and some small dog breeds have been bred to look like babies :D
Title: Re: Because using a cattle brand implies a lack of trust.
Post by: Siz on July 04, 2012, 05:49:28 PM
Quote from: Ali on July 04, 2012, 04:10:44 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on July 04, 2012, 02:45:25 PM
Personally I feel that possessiveness on that level is really creepy, if the person is unbalanced in some way could lead to something disastrous, I don't know. It is a factor in criminal profiling or so I'm told.


Quote from: En_Route on June 28, 2012, 07:46:38 PM
Quote from: AnimatedDirt on June 28, 2012, 04:49:15 PM
Quote from: Ali on June 28, 2012, 04:40:59 PM
What do you think?  Funny and tongue in cheek?  Gross?  Useful?

From what I hear, it's more of a turn-on/"go for him first" type thing for women when they see a wedding ring on a man...


That's evolution for you. The ladies,the heterosexual ones anyway,  are programmed to favour a chap who has proven his ability to land (and presumably provide for) a female.Thus, the astute man-about-town remains resolutely single, but wears a conspicuous wedding ring.  

Or carry a baby around and act as if you were its excellent father. That's the evolutionary cherry on top.

Haha, true.  It's almost impossible not to smile warmly at a man tending to small children in a public place.

Is it not the case that depending on what the woman is after she will opt for different traits in a man?
To procreate to produce strong healthy children she will choose the Alpha, chest beating superman jock. And for an actual father to the child she will opt for the stable, sensitive, bespectacled Clarke Kent.

Not sure where my wife went wrong on both counts... :-\

In the UK 10% of ALL children are raised by a men who are not the biological fathers which kinda holds up the theory.
Title: Re: Because using a cattle brand implies a lack of trust.
Post by: DeterminedJuliet on July 04, 2012, 05:51:52 PM
Quote from: Scissorlegs on July 04, 2012, 05:49:28 PM
Quote from: Ali on July 04, 2012, 04:10:44 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on July 04, 2012, 02:45:25 PM
Personally I feel that possessiveness on that level is really creepy, if the person is unbalanced in some way could lead to something disastrous, I don't know. It is a factor in criminal profiling or so I'm told.


Quote from: En_Route on June 28, 2012, 07:46:38 PM
Quote from: AnimatedDirt on June 28, 2012, 04:49:15 PM
Quote from: Ali on June 28, 2012, 04:40:59 PM
What do you think?  Funny and tongue in cheek?  Gross?  Useful?

From what I hear, it's more of a turn-on/"go for him first" type thing for women when they see a wedding ring on a man...


That's evolution for you. The ladies,the heterosexual ones anyway,  are programmed to favour a chap who has proven his ability to land (and presumably provide for) a female.Thus, the astute man-about-town remains resolutely single, but wears a conspicuous wedding ring.  

Or carry a baby around and act as if you were its excellent father. That's the evolutionary cherry on top.

Haha, true.  It's almost impossible not to smile warmly at a man tending to small children in a public place.

Is it not the case that depending on what the woman is after she will opt for different traits in a man?
To procreate to produce strong healthy children she will choose the Alpha, chest beating superman jock. And for an actual father to the child she will opt for the stable, sensitive, bespectacled Clarke Kent.

Not sure where my wife went wrong on both counts... :-\

In the UK 10% of ALL children are raised by a men who are not the biological fathers which kinda holds up the theory.

Makes sense in theory, but I've never found the macho-jocky muscle-head types even remotely attractive in any way.
Title: Re: Because using a cattle brand implies a lack of trust.
Post by: Siz on July 04, 2012, 06:02:50 PM
Remember we're talking about a majority demographic here  :D
Title: Re: Because using a cattle brand implies a lack of trust.
Post by: xSilverPhinx on July 04, 2012, 06:17:32 PM
Quote from: DeterminedJuliet on July 04, 2012, 05:51:52 PM
Quote from: Scissorlegs on July 04, 2012, 05:49:28 PM
Quote from: Ali on July 04, 2012, 04:10:44 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on July 04, 2012, 02:45:25 PM
Personally I feel that possessiveness on that level is really creepy, if the person is unbalanced in some way could lead to something disastrous, I don't know. It is a factor in criminal profiling or so I'm told.


Quote from: En_Route on June 28, 2012, 07:46:38 PM
Quote from: AnimatedDirt on June 28, 2012, 04:49:15 PM
Quote from: Ali on June 28, 2012, 04:40:59 PM
What do you think?  Funny and tongue in cheek?  Gross?  Useful?

From what I hear, it's more of a turn-on/"go for him first" type thing for women when they see a wedding ring on a man...


That's evolution for you. The ladies,the heterosexual ones anyway,  are programmed to favour a chap who has proven his ability to land (and presumably provide for) a female.Thus, the astute man-about-town remains resolutely single, but wears a conspicuous wedding ring.  

Or carry a baby around and act as if you were its excellent father. That's the evolutionary cherry on top.

Haha, true.  It's almost impossible not to smile warmly at a man tending to small children in a public place.

Is it not the case that depending on what the woman is after she will opt for different traits in a man?
To procreate to produce strong healthy children she will choose the Alpha, chest beating superman jock. And for an actual father to the child she will opt for the stable, sensitive, bespectacled Clarke Kent.

Not sure where my wife went wrong on both counts... :-\

In the UK 10% of ALL children are raised by a men who are not the biological fathers which kinda holds up the theory.

Makes sense in theory, but I've never found the macho-jocky muscle-head types even remotely attractive in any way.

Yeah, I think smarts plays a major role. I never found myself thinking "OMG I wanna have your children" with the muscle-head types. :-\

Evolutionary, status counts for a woman choosing a man, even moreso than looks in some cases, and not all alphas are the jock type. It's just that the muscle-heads usually do reach a higher status in some areas and not in others. Others have good looks, are seen to be of the right race or profession, have expensive cars....you get the picture.
Title: Re: Because using a cattle brand implies a lack of trust.
Post by: The Magic Pudding on July 05, 2012, 07:28:01 AM
Cool, get a wedding ring, borrow a baby, drop by the chemist for some sedatives, hire a cute dog, get one of those strap on chests with abs, bring brainy book, take up position in park with good traffic flow and wait.
Title: Re: Because using a cattle brand implies a lack of trust.
Post by: DeterminedJuliet on July 05, 2012, 02:10:43 PM
Quote from: The Magic Pudding on July 05, 2012, 07:28:01 AM
Cool, get a wedding ring, borrow a baby, drop by the chemist for some sedatives, hire a cute dog, get one of those strap on chests with abs, bring brainy book, take up position in park with good traffic flow and wait.

Can't fail.
Title: Re: Because using a cattle brand implies a lack of trust.
Post by: Ali on July 05, 2012, 04:34:02 PM
Quote from: Scissorlegs on July 04, 2012, 05:49:28 PM

Is it not the case that depending on what the woman is after she will opt for different traits in a man?
To procreate to produce strong healthy children she will choose the Alpha, chest beating superman jock. And for an actual father to the child she will opt for the stable, sensitive, bespectacled Clarke Kent.Not sure where my wife went wrong on both counts... :-\

In the UK 10% of ALL children are raised by a men who are not the biological fathers which kinda holds up the theory.

Hmmmm.  This doesn't ring true to me.  Mostly because I think that most people are more 3D than to fall into just one category (Alpha Chest Beater vs Sensitive Spectacles.)

Then again, that may be why I like my hubby so much.  He's big and healthy, but also wicked smart (not overly sensitive though.)
Title: Re: Because using a cattle brand implies a lack of trust.
Post by: Crow on July 05, 2012, 05:26:47 PM
There is also the theory that hormones have a role to play in finding the partner due to fluctuations caused by the menstrual cycle. I cant remember exactly what it was but it was along the lines of women are more attracted to males that are more pretty than rugged around the time the decorators are in, when they are on a break it's vice versa.

I however think that women go for guys they find attractive and each one has different tastes.
Title: Re: Because using a cattle brand implies a lack of trust.
Post by: Sweetdeath on July 07, 2012, 07:04:12 AM
Quote from: Crow on July 04, 2012, 02:30:17 PM
The whole Roman history of the wedding ring implying male ownership of the female puts me off them full stop.

Same . I'm never doing the wedding ring thing. i'm not a piece of someone's property.  :-\
I don't understand why people wear them. To go "OH, someone already owns you? shucks"

No, thank you.
Title: Re: Because using a cattle brand implies a lack of trust.
Post by: Sweetdeath on July 07, 2012, 07:05:09 AM
Quote from: Crow on July 05, 2012, 05:26:47 PM
There is also the theory that hormones have a role to play in finding the partner due to fluctuations caused by the menstrual cycle. I cant remember exactly what it was but it was along the lines of women are more attracted to males that are more pretty than rugged around the time the decorators are in, when they are on a break it's vice versa.

I however think that women go for guys they find attractive and each one has different tastes.
And somehow this doesn't apply to women like me (and Amicale) who don't like men at all >_>;
Title: Re: Because using a cattle brand implies a lack of trust.
Post by: The Magic Pudding on July 07, 2012, 09:56:33 AM
Quote from: Sweetdeath on July 07, 2012, 07:05:09 AM
Quote from: Crow on July 05, 2012, 05:26:47 PM
There is also the theory that hormones have a role to play in finding the partner due to fluctuations caused by the menstrual cycle. I cant remember exactly what it was but it was along the lines of women are more attracted to males that are more pretty than rugged around the time the decorators are in, when they are on a break it's vice versa.

I however think that women go for guys they find attractive and each one has different tastes.
And somehow this doesn't apply to women like me (and Amicale) who don't like men at all >_>;

[evil monologue] Ha ha, I hide and wait till Tank comes by, then I will use my ventriloquist ability, throw my voice and say "but that's only 'cause you haven't met the right man yet."  Bwa ha ha ha, Tank will be torn to pieces. [/evil monologue]
Title: Re: Because using a cattle brand implies a lack of trust.
Post by: Tank on July 07, 2012, 10:42:24 AM
Quote from: The Magic Pudding on July 07, 2012, 09:56:33 AM
Quote from: Sweetdeath on July 07, 2012, 07:05:09 AM
Quote from: Crow on July 05, 2012, 05:26:47 PM
There is also the theory that hormones have a role to play in finding the partner due to fluctuations caused by the menstrual cycle. I cant remember exactly what it was but it was along the lines of women are more attracted to males that are more pretty than rugged around the time the decorators are in, when they are on a break it's vice versa.

I however think that women go for guys they find attractive and each one has different tastes.
And somehow this doesn't apply to women like me (and Amicale) who don't like men at all >_>;

[evil monologue] Ha ha, I hide and wait till Tank comes by, then I will use my ventriloquist ability, throw my voice and say "but that's only 'cause you haven't met the right man yet."  Bwa ha ha ha, Tank will be torn to pieces. [/evil monologue]
LOL

I'm heterosexual and that doesn't put me off of lesbians or gay men. If another person's sexuality is one's defining element in one's relationship with them one really should look closely at one's own priorities when it comes to forming relationships with people.
Title: Re: Because using a cattle brand implies a lack of trust.
Post by: Ali on July 07, 2012, 03:04:23 PM
Quote from: Sweetdeath on July 07, 2012, 07:04:12 AM
Quote from: Crow on July 04, 2012, 02:30:17 PM
The whole Roman history of the wedding ring implying male ownership of the female puts me off them full stop.

Same . I'm never doing the wedding ring thing. i'm not a piece of someone's property.  :-\
I don't understand why people wear them. To go "OH, someone already owns you? shucks"

No, thank you.

I don't consider my ring to mean that my husband owns me.  I see it as a symbol of our commitment, and a pretty piece of jewelry.  It's fine if anyone else doesn't want to wear a ring; I just wanted to clarify that a wedding ring doesn't have to be a symbol of ownership. 
Title: Re: Because using a cattle brand implies a lack of trust.
Post by: DeterminedJuliet on July 07, 2012, 03:14:22 PM
Quote from: Sweetdeath on July 07, 2012, 07:04:12 AM
Quote from: Crow on July 04, 2012, 02:30:17 PM
The whole Roman history of the wedding ring implying male ownership of the female puts me off them full stop.

Same . I'm never doing the wedding ring thing. i'm not a piece of someone's property.  :-\
I don't understand why people wear them. To go "OH, someone already owns you? shucks"

No, thank you.

I've never taken it that way. I wear mine for sentimental value - just like I wear a locket that he gave me when we were dating. They're pieces of jewelry, not a chastity belt.  :D
Title: Re: Because using a cattle brand implies a lack of trust.
Post by: Buddy on July 07, 2012, 03:27:39 PM
If I were to ever get a stamping ring, it would say something along the lines of "Help me :("
Title: Re: Because using a cattle brand implies a lack of trust.
Post by: Ali on July 07, 2012, 03:29:06 PM
A "666" stamping ring would be funny. 
Title: Re: Because using a cattle brand implies a lack of trust.
Post by: xSilverPhinx on July 07, 2012, 05:17:56 PM
Quote from: Crow on July 05, 2012, 05:26:47 PM
There is also the theory that hormones have a role to play in finding the partner due to fluctuations caused by the menstrual cycle. I cant remember exactly what it was but it was along the lines of women are more attracted to males that are more pretty than rugged around the time the decorators are in, when they are on a break it's vice versa.

By "pretty" you mean with feminine characteristics? Look at Brad Pitt for instance, or Leonardo DiCarprio. I think there's something of truth there.

Title: Re: Because using a cattle brand implies a lack of trust.
Post by: Dobermonster on July 07, 2012, 06:04:36 PM
Quote from: Ali on July 07, 2012, 03:29:06 PM
A "666" stamping ring would be funny. 

Make it a headband and give them away at conservative rallies . . . that'd be fun.
Title: Re: Because using a cattle brand implies a lack of trust.
Post by: Sweetdeath on July 07, 2012, 07:50:12 PM
Quote from: Tank on July 07, 2012, 10:42:24 AM
Quote from: The Magic Pudding on July 07, 2012, 09:56:33 AM
Quote from: Sweetdeath on July 07, 2012, 07:05:09 AM
Quote from: Crow on July 05, 2012, 05:26:47 PM
There is also the theory that hormones have a role to play in finding the partner due to fluctuations caused by the menstrual cycle. I cant remember exactly what it was but it was along the lines of women are more attracted to males that are more pretty than rugged around the time the decorators are in, when they are on a break it's vice versa.

I however think that women go for guys they find attractive and each one has different tastes.
And somehow this doesn't apply to women like me (and Amicale) who don't like men at all >_>;

[evil monologue] Ha ha, I hide and wait till Tank comes by, then I will use my ventriloquist ability, throw my voice and say "but that's only 'cause you haven't met the right man yet."  Bwa ha ha ha, Tank will be torn to pieces. [/evil monologue]
LOL

I'm heterosexual and that doesn't put me off of lesbians or gay men. If another person's sexuality is one's defining element in one's relationship with them one really should look closely at one's own priorities when it comes to forming relationships with people.


:) <3
Yes.
Title: Re: Because using a cattle brand implies a lack of trust.
Post by: Ali on July 11, 2012, 10:09:44 PM
Or you could just spend your mornings stalking your husband's email and voicemail like this woman.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2171225/I-snoop-mans-emails-I-dont-trust-women-says-Samantha-Brick.html?ITO=1490 (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2171225/I-snoop-mans-emails-I-dont-trust-women-says-Samantha-Brick.html?ITO=1490)

My favorite part of that article was:

QuoteMen seem to have no idea about how pitifully easily they can be trapped by unscrupulous women hell bent on hooking any chap they fancy.

Saints preserve us from spending our reproductive years with men too stupid to know when they're being lured away by another woman.

Am I mistaken, or isn't the author of this article the same woman that drove the Internet crazy a few months ago by writing about the way men fall all over her and women hate her because she's attractive?  
Title: Re: Because using a cattle brand implies a lack of trust.
Post by: Tank on July 11, 2012, 10:18:47 PM
Quote from: Ali on July 11, 2012, 10:09:44 PM
Or you could just spend your mornings stalking your husband's email and voicemail like this woman.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2171225/I-snoop-mans-emails-I-dont-trust-women-says-Samantha-Brick.html?ITO=1490 (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2171225/I-snoop-mans-emails-I-dont-trust-women-says-Samantha-Brick.html?ITO=1490)

My favorite part of that article was:

QuoteMen seem to have no idea about how pitifully easily they can be trapped by unscrupulous women hell bent on hooking any chap they fancy.

Saints preserve us from spending our reproductive years with men too stupid to know when they're being lured away by another woman.

Am I mistaken, or isn't the author of this article the same woman that drove the Internet crazy a few years ago by writing about the way men fall all over her and women hate her because she's attractive?  
I have met women who just love the chase for the sale of the chase and others who will try and get a woman's husband just because they can. They are in the minority and the sort of man that will fall for them is in the minority. But when they meet it'll be a 'perfect storm'.
Title: Re: Because using a cattle brand implies a lack of trust.
Post by: Ali on July 11, 2012, 10:22:57 PM
I'm not saying men never cheat Tank.  Simply that if he wants to cheat, stalking his voicemail, email, Twitter account, et cetera, isn't going to fix that.  It's the same problem I have with the imprinting ring; you can't "keep" someone that doesn't want to be "kept."
Title: Re: Because using a cattle brand implies a lack of trust.
Post by: Tank on July 11, 2012, 10:28:13 PM
Quote from: Ali on July 11, 2012, 10:22:57 PM
I'm not saying men never cheat Tank.  Simply that if he wants to cheat, stalking his voicemail, email, Twitter account, et cetera, isn't going to fix that.  It's the same problem I have with the imprinting ring; you can't "keep" someone that doesn't want to be "kept."
I agree. In fact if one person harasses their partner in the way you describe I would suspect it would make matters worse not better!
Title: Re: Because using a cattle brand implies a lack of trust.
Post by: DeterminedJuliet on July 11, 2012, 10:30:29 PM
Holy hell, who has the energy to go through another person's communications every day? I barely answer my own text messages in a timely fashion. And I'm someone who does think my husband is a little naive when it comes to his attractiveness to other woman (not that he's a stupid person - but he's totally a catch and I don't think he realizes it. He's too humble, you see  :P ). But jaysus, I'll be damned if I'm going to start a one-woman surveillance operation.
Title: Re: Because using a cattle brand implies a lack of trust.
Post by: En_Route on July 11, 2012, 10:31:16 PM
Quote from: Ali on July 11, 2012, 10:09:44 PM
Or you could just spend your mornings stalking your husband's email and voicemail like this woman.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2171225/I-snoop-mans-emails-I-dont-trust-women-says-Samantha-Brick.html?ITO=1490 (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2171225/I-snoop-mans-emails-I-dont-trust-women-says-Samantha-Brick.html?ITO=1490)

My favorite part of that article was:

QuoteMen seem to have no idea about how pitifully easily they can be trapped by unscrupulous women hell bent on hooking any chap they fancy.

Saints preserve us from spending our reproductive years with men too stupid to know when they're being lured away by another woman.

Am I mistaken, or isn't the author of this article the same woman that drove the Internet crazy a few months ago by writing about the way men fall all over her and women hate her because she's attractive?  


Yes, I saw her being interviewed on my televisual apparatus. I don't know about the rest of her hypotheses, but she is sadly mistaken about her own physical charms. She's not ugly but she's far from being a stunner. I mean that in a very pro-Vagina and  non-sexist way.
Title: Re: Because using a cattle brand implies a lack of trust.
Post by: En_Route on July 11, 2012, 10:33:47 PM
Quote from: DeterminedJuliet on July 11, 2012, 10:30:29 PM
Holy hell, who has the energy to go through another person's communications every day? I barely answer my own text messages in a timely fashion. And I'm someone who does think my husband is a little naive when it comes to his attractiveness to other woman (not that he's a stupid person - but he's totally a catch and I don't think he realizes it. He's too humble, you see  :P ). But jaysus, I'll be damned if I'm going to start a one-woman surveillance operation.


We've seen your otic ornamentation and the dazzling selection of Modcloth couture. He ain't going nowhere.
Title: Re: Because using a cattle brand implies a lack of trust.
Post by: Sweetdeath on July 11, 2012, 10:45:48 PM
What the fuck?
If you dont trust your partner or are sooo insecure with yourself-- then dont be in a relationship. :( :(
Title: Re: Because using a cattle brand implies a lack of trust.
Post by: Tank on July 11, 2012, 11:08:58 PM
Quote from: Sweetdeath on July 11, 2012, 10:45:48 PM
What the fuck?
If you dont trust your partner or are sooo insecure with yourself-- then dont be in a relationship. :( :(
But insecure people almost invariable seek a relationship to feel validated. I've never met an insecure person that wanted to be insecure on their own. It's not an emotionally satisfactory situation for an insecure person to be in. One of the ways abusive relationship happen and continue is the insecurity of the 'victim' partner. The abuser plays on the insecurity of the victim partner's insecurities.
Title: Re: Because using a cattle brand implies a lack of trust.
Post by: Sweetdeath on July 11, 2012, 11:11:37 PM
Quote from: Tank on July 11, 2012, 11:08:58 PM
Quote from: Sweetdeath on July 11, 2012, 10:45:48 PM
What the fuck?
If you dont trust your partner or are sooo insecure with yourself-- then dont be in a relationship. :( :(
But insecure people almost invariable seek a relationship to feel validated. I've never met an insecure person that wanted to be insecure on their own. It's not an emotionally satisfactory situation for an insecure person to be in. One of the ways abusive relationship happen and continue is the insecurity of the 'victim' partner. The abuser plays on the insecurity of the victim partner's insecurities.
This is true. I guess if the person doesn't seek help for their own insecurities they will continue this sad chain of actions.

Like women and men who cheat constantly just because they are insecure. it's so sad. then it makes nice guys (like my coworker Marc who is sooo cute and so kind) feel like 'all women are the same' cuz he has been cheated on before. it really upsets me that people do this to each other. ;__; I love nice guys too much for them to be hurt. and same with poor women who have gone through this with their men.
Title: Re: Because using a cattle brand implies a lack of trust.
Post by: DeterminedJuliet on July 11, 2012, 11:22:03 PM
Quote from: Tank on July 11, 2012, 11:08:58 PM
Quote from: Sweetdeath on July 11, 2012, 10:45:48 PM
What the fuck?
If you dont trust your partner or are sooo insecure with yourself-- then dont be in a relationship. :( :(
But insecure people almost invariable seek a relationship to feel validated. I've never met an insecure person that wanted to be insecure on their own. It's not an emotionally satisfactory situation for an insecure person to be in. One of the ways abusive relationship happen and continue is the insecurity of the 'victim' partner. The abuser plays on the insecurity of the victim partner's insecurities.

This X100
Title: Re: Because using a cattle brand implies a lack of trust.
Post by: Ali on July 12, 2012, 12:57:55 AM
Am I the only one whose Creep Alert flashes on when I hear about a "nice guy" who bemoans that "women are all the same?"  I've yet to meet a self labeled "nice guy who is always getting screwed over by women" that doesn't come with a healthy dose of manipulation and misogyny. 
Title: Re: Because using a cattle brand implies a lack of trust.
Post by: Dobermonster on July 12, 2012, 01:05:22 AM
Quote from: Ali on July 12, 2012, 12:57:55 AM
Am I the only one whose Creep Alert flashes on when I hear about a "nice guy" who bemoans that "women are all the same?"  I've yet to meet a self labeled "nice guy who is always getting screwed over by women" that doesn't come with a healthy dose of manipulation and misogyny. 

I find 'nice guys' are more likely to be insecure and fearful of being alone. I've met plenty of women who were guilty of this as well.

Though not very scholarly, this article gets it just about right: http://www.heartless-bitches.com/rants/niceguys/niceguys.shtml
Title: Re: Because using a cattle brand implies a lack of trust.
Post by: xSilverPhinx on July 12, 2012, 01:07:12 AM
Quote from: Ali on July 11, 2012, 10:22:57 PM
It's the same problem I have with the imprinting ring; you can't "keep" someone that doesn't want to be "kept."

Sort of like the "let them go and if they come back" kind of thing? Yeah I think a ring or anything similar is pointless beyond a symbolic show.
Title: Re: Because using a cattle brand implies a lack of trust.
Post by: En_Route on July 12, 2012, 01:09:37 AM
Quote from: Ali on July 12, 2012, 12:57:55 AM
Am I the only one whose Creep Alert flashes on when I hear about a "nice guy" who bemoans that "women are all the same?"  I've yet to meet a self labeled "nice guy who is always getting screwed over by women" that doesn't come with a healthy dose of manipulation and misogyny. 


Anyone who describes themselves upfront as "nice" invariably isn't.
Title: Re: Because using a cattle brand implies a lack of trust.
Post by: The Magic Pudding on July 12, 2012, 01:26:47 AM
Quote from: Ali on July 12, 2012, 12:57:55 AM
Am I the only one whose Creep Alert flashes on when I hear about a "nice guy" who bemoans that "women are all the same?"  I've yet to meet a self labeled "nice guy who is always getting screwed over by women" that doesn't come with a healthy dose of manipulation and misogyny. 

I disagree with that, at least partially.  I think males or females can be drawn repeatedly to the wrong kind of person for them.  My brother told me once he liked bitchy women, I didn't take him to mean someone who'd challenge him in a positive way.  Oh but he would come with an unhealthy dose of manipulation and misogyny as you say, maybe you're right.
Title: Re: Because using a cattle brand implies a lack of trust.
Post by: Sweetdeath on July 12, 2012, 01:27:39 AM
Quote from: Ali on July 12, 2012, 12:57:55 AM
Am I the only one whose Creep Alert flashes on when I hear about a "nice guy" who bemoans that "women are all the same?"  I've yet to meet a self labeled "nice guy who is always getting screwed over by women" that doesn't come with a healthy dose of manipulation and misogyny. 

No, no.
he's young (under 20)
Only been in one serious relationship and his gf cheated on him.
Some people really have bad taste or luck in relationships. it happens! Don't be so suspicious of people >_>;; sheesh

please,i am the last person to ever fall for the fake 'nice guy' act. :p
Title: Re: Because using a cattle brand implies a lack of trust.
Post by: DeterminedJuliet on July 12, 2012, 01:32:22 AM
Ya knows Ali, now. She's always SOO suspicious of everyone...  
Edit: But seriously, having one person cheat on you is grounds for thinking that "all women are the same"?
Title: Re: Because using a cattle brand implies a lack of trust.
Post by: Sweetdeath on July 12, 2012, 02:44:59 AM
Quote from: DeterminedJuliet on July 12, 2012, 01:32:22 AM
Ya knows Ali, now. She's always SOO suspicious of everyone...  
Edit: But seriously, having one person cheat on you is grounds for thinking that "all women are the same"?

LOL, no, no~
Ah, i am seriously having a hard time posting tonight. I apologize.


He is just hurt is all, because it was his first relationship. I have never been cheated on, but i know that if i was--- i would be very hurt and probably not trusting either. Being cheated on is a horrible thing, i cannot imagine it is easy to recover from.
Trust is fragile. :(
Title: Re: Because using a cattle brand implies a lack of trust.
Post by: Ali on July 12, 2012, 04:10:27 AM
SD - Sorry, I should have clarified.  I wasn't referring to your friend specifically, I was more thinking aloud about "nice guys" in general.  Every time I've met a man that calls himself "a nice guy who gets screwed over by women," he's really not nice at all.  It's more like he's got a script in his head about the object of his affections ("object" being the operative word) and he gets pissed when she doesn't follow the script.  And then turns that around and makes it about women, and why they are bitches, and why they really crave someone that treats them like shit, and not that it's really about him and about how he couldn't buy her affections by taking her on a vacation or whatever bullshit he did that makes him think that she's now obligated to be his woman.  Haha, that was weirdly specific.   
Title: Re: Because using a cattle brand implies a lack of trust.
Post by: Buddy on July 12, 2012, 04:17:58 AM
Quote from: Ali on July 12, 2012, 04:10:27 AM
SD - Sorry, I should have clarified.  I wasn't referring to your friend specifically, I was more thinking aloud about "nice guys" in general.  Every time I've met a man that calls himself "a nice guy who gets screwed over by women," he's really not nice at all.  It's more like he's got a script in his head about the object of his affections ("object" being the operative word) and he gets pissed when she doesn't follow the script.  And then turns that around and makes it about women, and why they are bitches, and why they really crave someone that treats them like shit, and not that it's really about him and about how he couldn't buy her affections by taking her on a vacation or whatever bullshit he did that makes him think that she's now obligated to be his woman.  Haha, that was weirdly specific.   

This and guys complaining about being "friend zoned" really irritate me. It's like they expect the world to give them what they want for just being a nice. That is just selfish thinking.
Title: Re: Because using a cattle brand implies a lack of trust.
Post by: Sweetdeath on July 12, 2012, 06:01:11 AM
Ali and Budhorse:

Yes, and yes.
i completely agree with that. sadly, a lot of men feel like they can't just be friends with women. their fucking loss.


(haha, i like your descriptions, Ali.)
Title: Re: Because using a cattle brand implies a lack of trust.
Post by: Tank on July 12, 2012, 08:55:02 AM
Quote from: DeterminedJuliet on July 12, 2012, 01:32:22 AM
Ya knows Ali, now. She's always SOO suspicious of everyone...  
Edit: But seriously, having one person cheat on you is grounds for thinking that "all women are the same"?
Rationally no, irrationally yes. Emotional pain can be worse and longer lasting than physical pain. If a person really 'puts themselves out there' and makes themselves emotionally vulnerable and is betrayed (particularly when young and in love for the first time) the consequences can be devastating. And it's not unreasonable to expect a young inexperienced person to react in an irrational manner simply to defend there own shattered ego.
Title: Re: Because using a cattle brand implies a lack of trust.
Post by: DeterminedJuliet on July 12, 2012, 02:11:38 PM
Quote from: Tank on July 12, 2012, 08:55:02 AM
Quote from: DeterminedJuliet on July 12, 2012, 01:32:22 AM
Ya knows Ali, now. She's always SOO suspicious of everyone...  
Edit: But seriously, having one person cheat on you is grounds for thinking that "all women are the same"?
Rationally no, irrationally yes. Emotional pain can be worse and longer lasting than physical pain. If a person really 'puts themselves out there' and makes themselves emotionally vulnerable and is betrayed (particularly when young and in love for the first time) the consequences can be devastating. And it's not unreasonable to expect a young inexperienced person to react in an irrational manner simply to defend there own shattered ego.

Fair enough. I guess its easy for us "old married people" to forget what it's like sometimes. Though, even when I was teenager, I don't think I would have painted an entire gender as bad people. But I might be a minority. People have always told me that I act old for my age.