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Started by billy rubin, January 19, 2021, 11:37:28 PM

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billy rubin

first "medical emergency" explained:

Rosanne Boyland, a 34-year-old Trump supporter from Georgia who died during the attack on the Capitol on Jan. 6, appears to have been killed in a crush of fellow rioters during their attempt to fight through a police line, according to videos reviewed by The Times.

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Riots like that are violent. People get hurt and some get killed. Did she not know the risks?
"Maybe it's just a bunch of stuff that happens." -- Homer Simpson
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billy rubin

as near as i can tell nobody who went in there knew the risks.

of arrest, anyway.

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Billy,that reference had a paywall.  The would be news site tells me that I have exhausted all of my free stuff.

In any case I feel sorry for that woman. She was mislead. Maybe she was just another dumb ass but surely she did not deserve to die because of her ignorance. The other woman, the woman who was
fatally shot, was another of the misguided ones who paid with her life.

billy rubin


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Videos Show How Rioter Was Trampled in Stampede at Capitol
Rosanne Boyland died after losing consciousness in the crush of a pro-Trump mob as it surged against the police. Here's how it happened.

Rosanne Boyland was crushed amid this mob as it tried to push past the police and breach an entrance on the west side of the Capitol during the storming of the building on Jan. 6.
Rosanne Boyland was crushed amid this mob as it tried to push past the police and breach an entrance on the west side of the Capitol during the storming of the building on Jan. 6.Credit...Lev Radin/Sipa USA, via Reuters
By Evan Hill, Arielle Ray and Dahlia Kozlowsky
Published Jan. 15, 2021
Updated Jan. 17, 2021
Rosanne Boyland, a 34-year-old Trump supporter from Georgia who died during the attack on the Capitol on Jan. 6, appears to have been killed in a crush of fellow rioters during their attempt to fight through a police line, according to videos reviewed by The Times.

Though the videos have circulated widely, Ms. Boyland's presence in them had gone unnoticed until now, and the manner of her death had previously been unclear. The videos show her body on the ground just outside a door on the Capitol's west side that was the scene of some of the day's worst violence.

Her clothes and backpack strap in the videos match those she was seen wearing in a picture of her taken earlier that day, and two witnesses, one of whom tried to help her, gave similar accounts of her death.

ImageA picture of Ms. Boyland from earlier on Jan. 6 showing her clothes and backpack helped The Times identify her in the crush of the mob.
A picture of Ms. Boyland from earlier on Jan. 6 showing her clothes and backpack helped The Times identify her in the crush of the mob.Credit...Justin Winchell
Here is how the fatal rush unfolded.

Around 2:30 p.m., rioters on the west side of the Capitol forced their way through lines of Metropolitan Police officers and swarmed to a second-level promenade. There, they headed toward a door and tunnel traditionally used by presidents when they emerge for their inauguration, hoping to breach the Capitol.

As soon as the crowd entered the tunnel, they were met by a line of riot police. Even as they began to push, a rioter could be heard on video warning: "Stop pushing, somebody's going to get hurt."




"All right, we're on the Capitol steps, and they broke through the police line and people are going in. The doors are open!" "Stop pushing! Somebody's going to get hurt."

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Within half an hour, the hallway became packed with rioters. Around 2:50 p.m., an independent photojournalist, Jon Farina, entered and began filming.

The mob, which can be seen massed together in a dangerous crush, attacked officers and attempted to use the weight of their combined bodies to push the officers back, trapping many people in the process. Both sides filled the air with chemical irritant sprays they fired back and forth.

The battle inside continued for another hour, as new arrivals eagerly joined the line of rioters filing into the packed hallway to replace those who were injured or tired.

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Visible among these new arrivals is Ms. Boyland, identifiable in a YouTube video wearing her American flag sunglasses, packed amid the crowd surging toward the door. Justin Winchell, a friend who attended the protest with her that day, is in the crowd as well but cannot be seen in the video.

A screengrab from a YouTube video shows Boyland inside a tightly packed crowd as it tries to breach a west-side Capitol door defended by police on the afternoon of Jan. 6.Credit...The New York Times/The Black Conservative Preacher, via YouTube
At 4:09 p.m., the mob can be seen making another push into the doorway. Less than a minute later, the police pushed back, and the mob can be seen tumbling out of the door and down the steps. Mr. Winchell, in a bright blue hooded sweatshirt, is now just visible at the top of the steps.

For the next seven minutes, he can be seen pulling people away, appearing to search for Ms. Boyland as rioters continue to tumble out of the door. There is a lull in the fighting, and the crowd chants "I can't breathe!" — a rallying cry of Black Lives Matter protests.




"It's not a peaceful protest."

CreditCredit...The New York Times/Mel D. Cole
It is unclear from the videos if Ms. Boyland was alive at this time, but two rioters — one wielding a stick and the other a crutch — launched a new attack on the police at 4:17 p.m., making it virtually impossible for officers to give her aid, if they were able to notice her at all.

Boyland is visible in a video lying on her side in front of the door, her black hooded sweatshirt, arm and face partially visible, as men clash with police above her.





CreditCredit...The New York Times/Jarrett Robertson
In the chaos, two men spotted Ms. Boyland on the ground and dragged her away from the door.

The men laid Ms. Boyland out on the steps and attempted to resuscitate her. At least two individuals can be seen on video providing CPR. At the top of the steps, another man, wearing a purple jacket, can be seen apparently negotiating with the police so that the rioters can get Ms. Boyland assistance.

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As this video shows, poor planning and a restive crowd encouraged by President Trump set the stage for the riot.
A two hour period was crucial to turning the rally into the riot.
Several Trump administration officials, including cabinet members Betsy DeVos and Elaine Chao, announced that they were stepping down as a result of the riot.
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The House voted to impeach the president on charges of "inciting an insurrection" that led to the rampage by his supporters.

Roughly two and a half minutes after she was pulled away from the door, the men carried Ms. Boyland back to the police line, even as other rioters continued to throw poles and other objects at the officers.




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CreditCredit...The New York Times/The Black Conservative Preacher via YouTube
At least two people present during the fight at the door recounted on video how they had seen a woman being trampled in the mob.

One man, who livestreams under the name Villain Report, said in a YouTube video posted to his channel that he saw a woman collapse from asphyxiation inside the tunnel. The man said he tried to feel the woman's pulse after she was dragged away from the door, but found nothing. A Times review of the videos confirmed that he had been among the men surrounding Boyland's body.

"By the time that they decided to pick the person up and give them to a police officer, she had blue lips and blood was coming out of her nose," he said on the video. "I don't think that person will be revived."

In another video, a rioter identified as 25-year-old Edward Jacob Lang said he also had seen a woman trampled in the tunnel.




"They killed somebody, in front of my eyes." "Really?" "Yes, she collapsed underneath them, for four minutes she was underneath, not breathing." "What happened, sir?" "Some — a lady died in front of me. I picked up a — I carried her down the steps. She fainted and she was crushed by about six people." "Out here? Did she go inside?" "She was purple by the time they got her." "Oh, my God." "And white."

CreditCredit...Mel D. Cole
In social media posts, Lang blamed the police for the stampede and shared images of himself participating in the fight at the door. Police and F.B.I. agents arrested Lang from his home in Newburgh, N.Y., on January 16.

According to the Metropolitan Police Department, paramedics who responded to a call regarding a medical emergency at the Capitol arrived to find two Capitol Police officers in the Rotunda performing CPR on Ms. Boyland, who the officers said had collapsed in the protest. The Metropolitan Police declined to confirm whether the woman in the videos was Ms. Boyland, but said she was pronounced dead at a local hospital at 6:09 p.m. The chief medical examiner of Washington, D.C., said Boyland's cause and manner of death are "pending".

Mr. Winchell did not respond to a request for comment. After this story first published, Ms. Boyland's sister told a Times reporter via text message she was glad to have some answers, but that she is now "left with more questions," such as why her sister had gotten so close to the violence.

The day after Ms. Boyland's death, her brother-in-law told reporters that he held President Trump responsible.

"Rosanne was really passionate about her beliefs, like a lot of people are," he said. "I've never tried to be a political person, but it's my own personal belief that the president's words incited a riot that killed four of his biggest fans last night."

Nicholas Bogel-Burroughs contributed reporting. Christina Kelso contributed production.

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billy rubin

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The impeachment trial is filled with dramatic and mostly skillful rhetoric. Said rhetoric along with an enormous number of video clips and copies of Trump tweets, are beyond devastating for Trump.  The first three days of this stuff is by the Dems.  Someone or some committee has put together a production whose impact can rival the best of Hollywood blockbusters. 

Any of the Repubs who have seen and heard these proceedings will have a hard time defending Trump.  But they will almost certainly defend him with their nay votes.  I find their continued loyalty to Trump to be indefensible, and to me, incomprehensible.

An aside note is that there has been a noticeable number of citizen Republicans across the country who have changed their voter registration.  But they are not the individuals who will be up for reelection in their right leaning state.   

No one

The thing about idiots is; for every one that falls, two shall arise.


The title of the is thread is Medical emergency deaths.  We do have some medical emergencies what with the pandemic and all.  Little by little we are solving the covid problem. Given time we will emerge from the worst of that threat.   

We have, what is potentially,  an even more  serious threat to the orderly progression of our societal arrangement. .  Mental pandemic!  The number of people who have succumbed to absurd conspiracy theories has become deadly serious. Previously sane people have gone completely apeshit to believe in nutcase theories That many of them involve Trump is not surprising. We cannot blame it all on him however.

The Qanon movement has become a real time threat to our nation and to legions of our previously level headed citizens.  I am flirting with the notion that ...say the CIA, might seek, and find the prime mover of the Q-anon movement. The prime mover would quietly and suddenly disappear with out a trace.  No publicity, just silence.  Would that lunacy among all those subscribers gradually go away????   Or would it be better to  try to persuade them, or attempt to reason with them, that the whole Q thing was an attempt to destroy the common good of the nation.  I am thinking that the first option would be the most practical.

Take a look at the referenced article. to get an idea of the Q problem.  Am I doing the Chicken Little thing here or am I overstating the seriousness of the problem?