I am not suicidal. It's just a question. Is life worth living?
In most cases, life is certainly worth living. The pleasures and satisfactions that we enjoy are positive.
In other cases, for example a debilitating sickness or injury that that causes great pain, then eating ones shotgun might be a final solution to the problem. Emotional pain, if in the extreme, could cause one to consider ending it all.
The U.S. states of Oregon and Washington permit assisted suicide in certain circumstances
"God created man," why?
god wanted tacos.
i dont know whether its worth living or not. im living now, but when im dead i wont be.
if i cant tell the difference, is there one?
Quote from: billy rubin on May 04, 2023, 11:57:53 PMi dont know whether its worth living or not. im living now, but when im dead i wont be.
if i cant tell the difference, is there one?
The End is the end full stop
Quote from: Icarus on May 04, 2023, 09:30:25 PMIn most cases, life is certainly worth living. The pleasures and satisfactions that we enjoy are positive.
In other cases, for example a debilitating sickness or injury that that causes great pain, then eating ones shotgun might be a final solution to the problem. Emotional pain, if in the extreme, could cause one to consider ending it all.
Pretty much this.
It's not really a question any-one but yourself can answer for you, though whatever your answer is, someone will see to validating it while others will seek to dispute it. Such are the beauties of The Interwebs.
Quote from: Asmodean on May 05, 2023, 02:32:52 PMQuote from: Icarus on May 04, 2023, 09:30:25 PMIn most cases, life is certainly worth living. The pleasures and satisfactions that we enjoy are positive.
In other cases, for example a debilitating sickness or injury that that causes great pain, then eating ones shotgun might be a final solution to the problem. Emotional pain, if in the extreme, could cause one to consider ending it all.
Pretty much this.
It's not really a question any-one but yourself can answer for you, though whatever your answer is, someone will see to validating it while others will seek to dispute it. Such are the beauties of The Interwebs.
Suicide is no way out. Suicides harm others. On the other hand, voluntary euthanasia is the legitimate right of all individuals to control every aspect of their lives.
Quote from: MarcusA on May 06, 2023, 04:21:31 AMSuicides harm others.
Doesn't have to.
Let us assume that you are a
considerate lonely loner on welfare, and commit suicide in such a manner as to avoid traumatising some hapless passer-by for stumbling over your rotting remains, or making a mess for someone to clean up. Who have you harmed by offing yourself?
Quote from: MarcusA on May 06, 2023, 04:21:31 AMSuicide is no way out. Suicides harm others. On the other hand, voluntary euthanasia is the legitimate right of all individuals to control every aspect of their lives.
whats the difference?
Quote from: billy rubin on May 08, 2023, 06:23:54 PMQuote from: MarcusA on May 06, 2023, 04:21:31 AMSuicide is no way out. Suicides harm others. On the other hand, voluntary euthanasia is the legitimate right of all individuals to control every aspect of their lives.
whats the difference?
Suicide is a way of getting back at the world, voluntary euthanasia is not.
i think it can be thst way for some people, but doesnt need to be.
Quote from: MarcusA on May 08, 2023, 09:32:39 PMSuicide is a way of getting back at the world
That appears deeply inaccurate.
A suicide for purely-selfish reasons has little to do with "the world," and "everything" to do with "The I."
If someone wants to end their life, that is their prerogative. I do not think it is selfish, it is their life, and nobody else's.
I was thinking more in terms of "selfish" as in "having no regard for people outside oneself in this particular deliberation."
Still, the point is no less valid. If something - life, for example - is yours, you don't need to consider others in deliberations on whether or not to keep it.
Life is simply not worth living with religion around.
so, you're standing on the edge of the Grand Canyon. You lose your footing and over you go. You try to clutch and grab anything you can to keep from going all the way over. You catch onto a rock protruding and pull your self over the top. If life weren't worth living you wouldn't try to save yourself, but being that you did---life is/was worth living. To save yourself came naturally. Look to nature to answer certain personal questioned. You were made by nature were you not, then that's life.
Quote from: Old Seer on May 11, 2023, 02:29:36 AMso, you're standing on the edge of the Grand Canyon. You lose your footing and over you go. You try to clutch and grab anything you can to keep from going all the way over. You catch onto a rock protruding and pull your self over the top. If life weren't worth living you wouldn't try to save yourself, but being that you did---life is/was worth living. To save yourself came naturally. Look to nature to answer certain personal questioned. You were made by nature were you not, then that's life.
Man is about as natural as plastic.
The instinct to survive, and the will to continue living, are not quite the same.
back in my earliest nihilist days, i used to consider the best ways to die. i concluded that falling from a great height was best. as death was the last thing one would experience, a long fall would give one the opportunity to enjoy it to the fullest without any awkward suffering at the end.
Quote from: No one on May 11, 2023, 09:15:51 AMThe instinct to survive, and the will to continue living, are not quite the same.
I'd say so.
Is art worth living for?
Is life worth a damn? Damn right.