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Title: Fictional Place Names
Post by: The Magic Pudding.. on November 01, 2023, 10:37:55 AM
I'm watching Muriel's Wedding.
I'm voting for Porpoise Spit as best ever fictional place name.
Title: Re: Fictional Place Names
Post by: billy rubin on November 01, 2023, 12:13:24 PM
my vote goes to Snogging-on-the-green
Title: Re: Fictional Place Names
Post by: Asmodean on November 01, 2023, 01:19:26 PM
I don't actually remember too many funny/silly-named fictional places, but there was a real town called Fucking, the name of which they most unfortunately censored with a double g in stead. :sadshake:
Title: Re: Fictional Place Names
Post by: Icarus on November 02, 2023, 12:30:50 AM
Florida has a place with a well established history, it is called Yeehaw Junction. We have some other real places with real names such as Fort Lonesome, Appalachicola, Frostproof, and Haulover.
Title: Re: Fictional Place Names
Post by: Bluenose on November 02, 2023, 12:44:00 AM
I can assure readers here that the following are actual, non-fictional place names:
Nar Nar Goon
Wollondilly
Woori Yallock
Title: Re: Fictional Place Names
Post by: Tank on November 02, 2023, 12:21:24 PM
There was a place near where I grew up called Pratts Bottom :D
Title: Re: Fictional Place Names
Post by: Asmodean on November 02, 2023, 01:29:54 PM
Scandic Hell has one of the best hotel breakfast buffets in Norway - at least they had when I was there for a company gathering. Also, it was in Hell.

We also have a place called Arse in Norwegian (Ræva - it's in Trøndelag county. Literally does mean "arse," as opposed to "rump" or "backside") and a few more, which I just don't remember on the spot. :smilenod:
Title: Re: Fictional Place Names
Post by: Tom62 on November 02, 2023, 03:48:07 PM
In the Netherlands we've got a village called Sexbierum. The name can be read in Dutch as sex, beer, rum, and therefore, the place name signs get occasionally stolen.
Title: Re: Fictional Place Names
Post by: billy rubin on November 02, 2023, 05:30:26 PM
i have actually driven through the town of toadsuck, arkansas.
Title: Re: Fictional Place Names
Post by: Asmodean on November 02, 2023, 08:37:34 PM
The Asmo can't help but wonder... To suck on a toad, or to get sucked by one, and why is one of these things far less disturbing? :smilenod:
Title: Re: Fictional Place Names
Post by: billy rubin on November 02, 2023, 10:41:55 PM
there is a small volcanic cinder cone in northern arizona called SP Crater on the USGS topographic maps, similar to the british ordnance surveys. its an almost perfect pot-shaped structure that gave rise to its real name

Shit Pot Crater

which the USGS will not print on their maps

a pitcher:

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-xPx5Lv3y7rY/VBIpRetSlFI/AAAAAAAADmY/SXnAtmVpy5I/s1600/SP15.JPG)

if you climb into it its full of chunks of mafic horneblendes and amphiboles and olivines, honest injun pieces of the earths mantle, dark black and so heavy when you pick em up you think theyre made of metal.
Title: Re: Fictional Place Names
Post by: The Magic Pudding.. on November 03, 2023, 02:36:35 AM
"A Change of Air

Now, a man in Oodnadatta
He grew fat, and he grew fatter,
Though he hardly had a thing to eat for dinner;
While a man in Booboorowie
Often sat and wondered how he
Could prevent himself from growing any thinner.

So the man from Oodnadatta
He came down to Booboorowie,
Where he rapidly grew flatter;
And the folk will tell you how he
Urged the man from Booboorowie
To go up to Oodnadatta -
Where he lived awhile, and now he
Is considerably fatter."
Title: Re: Fictional Place Names
Post by: Tank on November 03, 2023, 07:16:37 AM
Quote from: billy rubin on November 02, 2023, 10:41:55 PMthere is a small volcanic cinder cone in northern arizona called SP Crater on the USGS topographic maps, similar to the british ordnance surveys. its an almost perfect pot-shaped structure that gave rise to its real name

Shit Pot Crater

which the USGS will not print on their maps

a pitcher:

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-xPx5Lv3y7rY/VBIpRetSlFI/AAAAAAAADmY/SXnAtmVpy5I/s1600/SP15.JPG)

if you climb into it its full of chunks of mafic horneblendes and amphiboles and olivines, honest injun pieces of the earths mantle, dark black and so heavy when you pick em up you think theyre made of metal.

Is the black material in the background related to the crater?
Title: Re: Fictional Place Names
Post by: Asmodean on November 03, 2023, 08:06:39 AM
It looks like the crater edge is lower on that side, so kinda' makes me suspect a connection. If I was a liquid-like substance, I'd flow out from such a low spot. :smilenod:

That, though, is probably way simplistic a volcanological analysis, and thereby dead wrong besides.
Title: Re: Fictional Place Names
Post by: billy rubin on November 03, 2023, 11:07:19 AM
basalt lava. all the volcanos around there come from low silica low water magmas, so they poop out ashes and then trickle highly undramatic flows over everything.

its the high silica high steam volcanoes like mt st helens that blow out catastrophic explosipns.

it all depends on what melted to make the magma. ocean floor gabbros make easygoing basalt lavas. continental granites make spectacular rhyolites.

arizona is covered in cinder cones. most of the recent flows are just like the one in the picture-- first you had a cinder cone of ash, then the basalt rose up, lifted the cone, and trickled out the side.

the stuff is recent, often only a thousand years

that cone looks higher than i remember, but i was younger then
Title: Re: Fictional Place Names
Post by: Asmodean on November 03, 2023, 11:42:37 AM
Are those the kinda-squat "high speed lava" volcanoes like those in Iceland, or are there notable differences?
Title: Re: Fictional Place Names
Post by: billy rubin on November 03, 2023, 09:59:19 PM
what are high speed volcanoes?

i dont know much about icelsnd. the place is weird. its about the only place i can think of where an honest to god midocean ridge is on the surface. most spreading zones are deep sea and consist of a giant crack in the gabbro crust being widened while basaltic lava (melted  gabbro) oozes up and solidifies. but its all heavy so its usuallu below sealevel.. i dont know why iceland is on the surface.

but if tbe underlying magma composition is the same uou would expect lots of mostly gentle volcanoes, like the ones in hawaii.  eruptions are splashy with lots of flows out the sides and long rivers of molten rock, but no vesurvius or krakatoa style stuff. tourist-friendly volcanoes, mostly, if you dont get too close.
Title: Re: Fictional Place Names
Post by: billy rubin on November 04, 2023, 01:44:00 AM
(https://o.quizlet.com/hUxU7w9T2dAZs.vcSTrnOw_b.png)

the atlantic ocean is vastly wider than in this simple diagram

(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.virginiaplaces.org%2Fgeology%2Fgraphics%2Fatlanticoceanfloor.png&hash=6e9ff711d6af14a8459175c5663166e9aba4d172)
Title: Re: Fictional Place Names
Post by: hermes2015 on November 04, 2023, 02:53:47 AM
Long place names are not just found in Wales. Here is a South African one:

Tweebuffelsmeteenskootmorsdoodgeskietfontein

It is a real name and means "Two Buffalos Shot Dead with One Shot Fountain".

https://curlytales.com/places-in-the-world-with-longest-names-to-have-your-tongue-twisted/ (https://curlytales.com/places-in-the-world-with-longest-names-to-have-your-tongue-twisted/)
Title: Re: Fictional Place Names
Post by: billy rubin on November 04, 2023, 04:02:38 AM
. . . and the story is ? ?
Title: Re: Fictional Place Names
Post by: hermes2015 on November 04, 2023, 05:45:02 AM
I've heard that the owner of the original farm that is central to that area was an excellent shot, hence the name. The name shows how compound nouns are created by simply stringing words together in some Germanic languages like German, Dutch, and Afrikaans, which is a variant of Dutch that is spoken in South Africa.
Title: Re: Fictional Place Names
Post by: billy rubin on November 04, 2023, 09:57:41 AM
Some German words are so long that they have a perspective. Observe
these examples:
Freundschaftsbezeigungen.
Dilettantenaufdringlichkeiten.
Stadtverordnetenversammlungen.

These things are not words, they are alphabetical processions.

Generalstaatsverordnetenversammlungen.
Alterthumswissenschaften.
Kinderbewahrungsanstalten.
Unabhaengigkeitserklaerungen.
Wiedererstellungbestrebungen.
Waffenstillstandsunterhandlungen.

Of course when one of these grand mountain ranges goes stretching across
the printed page, it adorns and ennobles that literary landscape but at
the same time it is a great distress to the new student, for it blocks up
his way; ... "
- "That Awful German Language," Appendix D of A Tramp Abroad
Title: Re: Fictional Place Names
Post by: hermes2015 on November 04, 2023, 10:21:47 AM
Quote from: billy rubin on November 04, 2023, 09:57:41 AMSome German words are so long that they have a perspective. Observe
these examples:
Freundschaftsbezeigungen.
Dilettantenaufdringlichkeiten.
Stadtverordnetenversammlungen.

These things are not words, they are alphabetical processions.

Generalstaatsverordnetenversammlungen.
Alterthumswissenschaften.
Kinderbewahrungsanstalten.
Unabhaengigkeitserklaerungen.
Wiedererstellungbestrebungen.
Waffenstillstandsunterhandlungen.

Of course when one of these grand mountain ranges goes stretching across
the printed page, it adorns and ennobles that literary landscape but at
the same time it is a great distress to the new student, for it blocks up
his way; ... "
- "That Awful German Language," Appendix D of A Tramp Abroad

My German isn't too bad, so I can read those words aloud without stumbling. The systematic nomenclature of organic molecules has its origins in German, because many pioneering organic chemists were German and started naming molecules systematically. That is why non-chemists, especially English speaking ones, struggle to read the names of molecules.
Title: Re: Fictional Place Names
Post by: billy rubin on November 04, 2023, 11:50:44 AM
but that actually makes sense

1,1,1,hydroxychloropentamene stuff?

i had a geochemistry class from a guy who talked about slaked lime and potash and i never knew what he was talking about
Title: Re: Fictional Place Names
Post by: Tom62 on November 04, 2023, 12:12:06 PM
The longest official Dutch word is "aansprakelijkheidswaardevaststellingsveranderingen".
Title: Re: Fictional Place Names
Post by: Tank on November 04, 2023, 12:41:25 PM
Quote from: Tom62 on November 04, 2023, 12:12:06 PMThe longest official Dutch word is "aansprakelijkheidswaardevaststellingsveranderingen".

Ok. Now I want to know what the longest unofficial Dutch word is :)
Title: Re: Fictional Place Names
Post by: Tom62 on November 04, 2023, 05:58:10 PM
Quote from: Tank on November 04, 2023, 12:41:25 PM
Quote from: Tom62 on November 04, 2023, 12:12:06 PMThe longest official Dutch word is "aansprakelijkheidswaardevaststellingsveranderingen".

Ok. Now I want to know what the longest unofficial Dutch word is :)

Basically, you can make these words as long as you want. There is no limit. For example: a children's carnival parade requires preparation work and committee members to organize it. If you make one word from that, you will get "kindercarnavalsoptochtvoorbereidingswerkzaamhedencomitéleden". To increase the size of that word you could make it a carnival parade for small children, hence "kleinekinderencarnavalsoptochtvoorbereidingswerkzaamhedencomitéleden". :)
Title: Re: Fictional Place Names
Post by: billy rubin on November 04, 2023, 06:03:01 PM
do the dutch play scrabble?
Title: Re: Fictional Place Names
Post by: Tank on November 04, 2023, 09:36:38 PM
Quote from: billy rubin on November 04, 2023, 06:03:01 PMdo the dutch play scrabble?

Yes, on very very large boards,
Title: Re: Fictional Place Names
Post by: Tank on November 04, 2023, 09:38:07 PM
Quote from: Tom62 on November 04, 2023, 05:58:10 PM
Quote from: Tank on November 04, 2023, 12:41:25 PM
Quote from: Tom62 on November 04, 2023, 12:12:06 PMThe longest official Dutch word is "aansprakelijkheidswaardevaststellingsveranderingen".

Ok. Now I want to know what the longest unofficial Dutch word is :)

Basically, you can make these words as long as you want. There is no limit. For example: a children's carnival parade requires preparation work and committee members to organize it. If you make one word from that, you will get "kindercarnavalsoptochtvoorbereidingswerkzaamhedencomitéleden". To increase the size of that word you could make it a carnival parade for small children, hence "kleinekinderencarnavalsoptochtvoorbereidingswerkzaamhedencomitéleden". :)

So that's where the idea of Lego came from!
Title: Re: Fictional Place Names
Post by: Asmodean on November 07, 2023, 12:13:02 PM
Quote from: billy rubin on November 03, 2023, 09:59:19 PMwhat are high speed volcanoes?
Ones with comparatively low-viscosity lava... I suppose. While I'm fascinated by the forces involved, a volcanologist I am not.  :P

Quotebut if tbe underlying magma composition is the same uou would expect lots of mostly gentle volcanoes, like the ones in hawaii.  eruptions are splashy with lots of flows out the sides and long rivers of molten rock, but no vesurvius or krakatoa style stuff. tourist-friendly volcanoes, mostly, if you dont get too close.
Yes, they are gentle as such things go. May serious geologists forgive me for this metaphor, but they let off long, wet farts rather than short, explosive ones. The flipside is... Well, soiled trousers. (That being faster lava flow with the potential to reach further before solidifying - or so I understand)
Title: Re: Fictional Place Names
Post by: billy rubin on November 07, 2023, 05:43:18 PM
the highly liquid stuff is the dry basalt, low water, low viscosity

the rhyolites and andesites are wetter, viscosity like silly putty, if yiu ever encountered that. they tend to explode.

hawaii is mostly all basalt, so lots of low energy geysers and fliws. can still kill you if youre in the way