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Started by Asmodean Prime, June 22, 2006, 10:20:11 AM
Quote from: "PoopShoot"And what if pigs shit candy?
Quotecj wrote...2500. Today marks the 2500th combat death in the war in Iraq. Today also marks the beginning of the biggest debate in the House since the war's inception. The Republicans have offered a resolution tying the Iraq "war" to the ongoing war on terrorism. They have prevented the Democrats from offering any amendments to the resolution. By framing the issue in this way, the Republicans hope to continue their obfuscation of the issues, and paint the Democrats into a "cut and run" corner just prior to the mid-term elections.
QuoteNo, I am here to contend that the current argument, that Iraq is and will be a haven for terrorists if we redeploy, is equally flawed reasoning.
QuoteWe are in the midst of a civil war that we have unleashed. Our troops are reviled by most of the "Iraqi" populace, and the vast, vast majority want us to depart immediately. The "insurgency" is not a terrorist movement; it is homegrown Sunnis and Shia fighting eachother and us. The military has been loathe to estimate the number of 'foreign" fighters in Iraq, of late, but General Abizaid estimated them to be fewer than 1,000 in late 2004. The range is 2 to 6 percent of all fighters, from the various reports I have read.
QuoteSo, can we agree to dispense with the fiction that we are fighting the terrorists in Iraq? No? How about this then...when we finally redeploy, whether it is after another 100 American deaths, or another 2500, the Iraqis themselves will eliminate the foreign fighters.
QuoteSomalia has been taken over by Islamic fundamentalists, and we are too weak politically and militarily to do anything about it.
QuoteThe Taliban in Afghanistan has been reinvigorated, and is now fighting in batallion size units, as opposed to platoon size, a year ago...largely because we have starved them of the necessary resources.
QuoteThe same poll found that 47% overall, 88% of Sunni, 41% of Shia, and 16% of Kurds approve of attacks on US forces.
QuoteThe latest WPO poll shows that 87% overall, 94% of Sunni, 90% of Shia, and 64% of Kurds want the newly elected government to set a timeline for withdrawal. The same poll found that 47% overall, 88% of Sunni, 41% of Shia, and 16% of Kurds approve of attacks on US forces. http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/ ... 5&lb=hmpg2